Time Nick Message 10:06 paul_away now really away... 10:06 paul_away although I can't do that immediatly... 10:06 paul_away if you could export an iso2709 data file, I could import it to one of our koha space for testing. (at least for a few x000 biblios) 10:05 kados hehe 10:05 atol ;-) 10:05 atol 2) I can't install KOHA, which would import my data on the fly 10:04 atol 1) I can install PMB but cannot import data 10:04 paul ok, I have to leave now. see you later. 10:04 atol So my problems are: 10:04 kados (right) 10:04 atol I have been working with that tool, but could not import the iso-format into PMB 10:04 paul (kados : pmb being a french ILS, under GPL too, designed for smaller libraries, but supported almost only by a single french company) 10:03 atol I see that now already 10:03 atol It's good for my french 10:03 paul atol : unlike PMB, you'll find that Koha community is large & responsive ;-) 10:03 paul in french, sorry ;-) 10:03 paul http://dlieppe.free.fr/ExportWinISIS/ExportWinISIS-ISO2709.htm 10:02 paul but there are some tools that do it for you. 10:02 paul the main difficulty is to transform Isis export into iso2709. 10:02 atol But I want to make sure that it works here, before I go and spend money on things like hosting (which I'd like to prevent anyway if possible) 10:01 paul yep. 10:01 kados paul: you have migrated some libraries from isis, right? 10:01 kados atol: WIPO is World Intellectual Property Organization 10:00 atol I have downloaded the manual 10:00 kados atol: http://wipoopac.liblime.com/ <- moved from isis to koha 10:00 kados yep 09:59 paul move from isis to koha has been done dozen of times. 09:59 kados ahh, cool 09:59 atol Bibliobase (a portuguese application built on top of Isis databases) 09:58 kados atol: what's your current application? 09:58 atol Thank you. But it really is for a first testing phase. I wanna find out how well I can migrate the data from our current application to koha 09:57 kados atol: http://koha.org/support/pay.html 09:57 kados atol: some of the koha companies offer hosting 09:56 atol guess there are no free webspace providers I can use to test an installation? I did a search, but that wasn't quite helpful. I gues you need SSH access, right? 09:55 atol okay 09:55 kados yep 09:55 atol And those are too old? 09:54 kados or maybe even redhat version 7/8 or sth 09:54 kados atol: you're probably running fedora core 1 09:54 atol the first one mentioned:: marc::record 09:54 kados yea 09:54 paul Perl 5.6 is quite old... 09:54 kados which module were you installing? 09:54 kados so it seems 09:53 atol So it seems that the perl veersion does matter, then? 09:53 atol --- 09:53 atol Make had some problems, maybe interrupted? Won't install 09:53 atol Running make install 09:52 atol Make had some problems, maybe interrupted? Won't test 09:52 atol Running make test 09:52 atol Perl v5.8.1 required--this is only v5.6.0, stopped at Makefile.PL line 2. 09:52 atol I started with MCPan, but after answering all the questions, I get: 09:52 kados hmmm 09:52 atol I went ahead and tried some stuff explained in the manuals. 09:52 kados ahh, ok 09:51 atol I found some info about the distro the other day through a website. I'm pretty sure it's Fedora, don't know the version 09:50 kados atol: apache version doesn't matter either 09:50 kados atol: you'll want to make sure you're running at least mysql 4.1 09:50 kados atol: php shouldn't matter, and neither should perl version 09:49 kados atol: which distro? 09:49 atol It's just that things like mysql, perl and php are running already 09:49 atol it's running linux 09:48 kados atol: is it running windows or linux? 09:48 kados atol: I'm not sure we have a guide specifically for installing Koha on a shared webserver 09:47 paul i won't miss it. 09:47 kados paul: say hello to wife and kids for me :-) 09:47 paul (going to the hospital to see Matthieu ;-) ) 09:47 atol hi paul & kados 09:47 kados paul: congratulations on the new addition to family :-) 09:47 paul just here for a few min 09:47 kados paul! 09:47 paul hi kados & atol 09:47 kados hi atol 09:41 atol Does anyone has any experience with this? Maybe our webserver doesn't meet the minimum requirements, but it's hard for me to find out. I have been able to install PMB on it, though. 09:40 atol But now I need to install it on a (shared) webserver. I can't really find a manual for this. Most manuals seem to be written for installing koha on a (dedicated) internal server with Linux. 09:38 atol I'm kinda new to koha. I have installed it before on a laptop running WinXP. 09:37 atol hi everyone 19:31 cm okay, now I'm going home. have a good day/night, everybody! 19:30 cm ++, guys. :) 19:30 cm my due date was 3-13, but we probably have a fake holiday in there throwing it off. 19:29 cm just did. Looks like it worked. 19:28 kados chris++ 19:28 chris if you could test it would be great cm 19:28 chris ok, fixes committed 19:27 rch i think we'll be able to get zebra updated on 5-6 min intervals 19:26 rch but they're running at 10 minute zebra updates with a heavy circ load today 19:22 rch (they don't have calendar ) - Stow Munroe Falls 19:22 cm nice. :) What does SMF stand for? 19:22 rch cm: btw, SMFPL near Cleveland went live with dev_week today 19:21 cm yeah, thanks! 19:21 rch thx chris 19:21 rch sure 19:20 chris want me to fix em? 19:20 chris and my @datearr = localtime($datedue); becomes my @datearr = localtime(); 19:20 chris just 2 lines my $datedue=time+($loanlength)*86400; is no longer needed 19:19 chris yep, needs to get fixed there too 19:17 chris i think the addDate bit got added, but it wasnt noticed that the *86400 bit was no longer done 19:17 chris ($daydue, $monthdue, $yeardue) = $calendar->addDate($daydue, $monthdue, $yeardue, $loanlength); 19:17 chris my ($yeardue, $monthdue, $daydue) = split /-/, $dateduef; 19:17 chris my $calendar = C4::Calendar::Calendar->new(branchcode => $borrower->{'branchcode'}); 19:17 chris 19:17 chris $dateduef = (1900+$datearr[5])."-".($datearr[4]+1)."-". $datearr[3]; 19:17 chris my @datearr = localtime(); 19:16 chris yeah thats it 19:15 chris ah sorry from head 19:14 rch looks like rel3 code doesn't use holidays for issue length. 19:14 kados ahh 19:14 chris probably a misread/typo when backporting from 3_0 19:14 chris thats wrong 19:14 chris its how its being called from Circ2.pm 19:13 chris the holiday stuff is fine 19:13 kados and this is the new holidays stuff that SAN added? 19:13 cm i think it's been doing that for a while before I noticed it. :( 19:13 rch hm. apparently it didn't :( 19:11 chris i wonder how it ever worked though :) 19:10 chris which is cleaner than doing the *86400 stuff anyway 19:09 rch yes 19:09 chris and todays date 19:09 chris so i reckon we dont pass it it the due date, we just pass it the loan length 19:09 chris if its not, it works it out checking for holidays 19:08 chris so if its normal, it jsut adds the loanlength -1 19:08 chris :) 19:08 rch weird. 19:08 chris - 1 19:07 dewey 1 19:07 rch (plus 1) 19:07 rch right. 14 * 2 = 27 19:07 chris and it makes the due date? 19:07 chris i think it might have to be called with todays date 19:07 rch youch 19:07 chris yep 19:07 rch we seem to be adding a loanlength to the due date. 19:07 chris it appears to just take the date you pass it, and add the offset to it right? 19:06 rch yeah, me too. 19:06 chris looking at addDate 19:06 rch yep 19:06 chris rch: you about? 19:06 chris hmmm 19:02 cm never hurts to check. :) 19:02 chris ive had a server who's clock was way wrong before, caused no end of problems before i spotted it 19:01 chris cool 19:01 cm Mon Feb 26 17:01:16 EST 2007 19:01 chris :-) 19:01 cm he he . 19:01 chris just type date on the commandline 19:01 cm sure. 19:00 chris hmm can you do me a quick favour cm? 19:00 chris 919., 19:00 chris /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Circulation/Circ2.pm line 19:00 chris <cm> LOANLENGTH:14 at 19:00 chris thats what looks to be happening 19:00 rch and wrong after? 18:59 rch so the date is correct before the calendar adddate? 18:59 cm yeah, i thought i already did that. 18:58 rch ah, right 18:58 chris and its returning 14 18:58 chris getloanlength seems to be returning hte right thing rch .. they did some warns before 18:57 rch i'd throw a warn before getloanlength - check your bortype & branchcodes 18:57 rch :) 18:57 cm i'm not well known for my math skills. ;) 18:56 chris heh 18:56 cm where on earth is it getting 27? 18:55 rch but it's not 21, either 18:55 cm should be 3-12. 18:55 cm that due date is wrong, though. 18:54 cm good to know. 18:54 rch no date is good. 18:54 cm DATE: at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Circulation/Circ2.pm line 931 18:54 cm DATEDUEF:2007-03-27 at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Circulation/Circ2.pm line 930. 18:53 cm hmm, there is no $date: 18:51 rch & 937 18:50 cm i'll do that. 18:50 rch @929 18:50 rch warn $dateduef 18:50 rch warn $date 18:49 cm my motto is, if something quits working, look to see what's changed recently. :) 18:49 cm what about the calendar stuff below, ~line 925? 18:49 chris naw, his is the too many one 18:49 rch i think this is not the same as chris's bug 18:49 chris somethign to check 18:48 rch (i'm getting correct loan lengths) 18:48 kados chris: wonder if this is fixed in rel_3 18:48 kados chris: yikes 18:48 rch cm: time to throw warns liberally around where the calendar code is called. 18:48 cm pretty sure it doesn't...it used to work. 18:47 chris if one leaves both the * row and the * column blank, this problem does not surface, OR if your set your default number of books as high as your highest borrower category 18:47 kados cm: check to make sure your template doesn't have hardcoded values for those maybe? 18:47 cm i don't think i am. i don't have a dropdown. must not be in our template. 18:47 kados wow, what a fix! 18:47 chris if the whole matrix is filled out, the * * rules are applied 18:47 chris its worse than that 18:46 kados chris: I think that bug 1040 is the one where 'unless the whole matrix is filled it, issuing rules don't work' 18:46 chris ahh sorry, looking at the logs his was to do with the toomany bit 18:46 kados rch: good thinking 18:46 kados ahh, yea, check the dropdown menu for specifying dates 18:45 rch cm: are you sure you're not calling issuebook with a date? 18:45 kados my $datedue=time+($loanlength)*86400; 18:45 chris not the first 18:45 chris ie it looked like the last match was always being met 18:45 kados really? 18:45 kados hmmm 18:44 chris right thats what he was getting 18:44 kados ie, getLoanLength is returning the right value 18:44 kados chris: what cm is experiencing seems to be more serious, the rules aren't getting applied at all, even though the function is working 18:44 chris that wasnt what chris was experiencing 18:44 kados chris: I think that bug just refers to the fact that default doesn't work 18:33 cm LOANLENGTH:14 at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Circulation/Circ2.pm line 919., 18:33 cm it seems to be there: 18:33 chris http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1040 18:33 chris this one 18:31 kados cm: or wherever it's called, lets make sure it's actually being returned correctly 18:31 kados warn "LOANLENGTH:".$loanlength; 18:31 chris morning all 18:31 cm it's on line 1737 in circ2.pm 18:31 kados add: 18:31 kados my $loanlength = getLoanLength($borrower->{'categorycode'},$iteminformation->{'itemtype'},$borrower->{'branchcode'}); 18:30 kados cm: add a warn to around line 918 after: 18:30 kados issuebook calls it 18:30 kados (morning chris) 18:29 kados cm: do you know where getLoanLength is getting called from? 18:26 cm cm has seen enough of perl logic lately. ;) 18:26 kados to the calling sub 18:26 kados lets see if it's returning the value correctly 18:26 chris yeah i think its the perl logic is busted 18:26 cm yep. 18:25 kados cm: so the query is working 18:25 kados huh 18:25 chris chris at USP in fiji reported someting similair with 2.2.7 18:25 chris there is a bug in bugzilla about this i think 18:25 cm I get 14, which is right. 18:24 kados so go ahead and plug those into the sql query 18:24 kados yuppers 18:24 cm incoming vars:ST PB MPL at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Circulation/Circ2.pm line 964., 18:23 cm is this what you're looking for? 18:20 kados warn "incoming vars:".$borrowertype." ".$itemtype." ".$branchcode; 18:20 kados add: 18:20 kados my ($borrowertype,$itemtype,$branchcode) = @_; 18:20 kados right after: 18:20 kados cm: try adding a warn in getLoanLength 18:19 cm is branchcode available or is it just looking at default? 18:18 cm select issuelength from issuingrules where categorycode="A" and itemtype="FIC" and branchcode="MPL"; 18:18 cm i get a result from this: 18:15 kados rch: I wonder if it's categorycode 18:15 kados have to fill in some of those ?s 18:15 rch select issuelength from issuingrules where categorycode=? and itemtype=? and branchcode=? 18:15 cm which query? 18:15 rch so if you issue that query in mysql, does it return? 18:14 kados hi :-) 18:14 cm hi kados. 18:12 cm renewing works fine, but it doesn't go through the holiday stuff. 18:12 cm if it can't figure out a date it defaults to that. 18:12 cm yep, circ2.pm, line 1001. 18:11 cm let me look. I think it's in circ2.pm. hang on... 18:11 cm i suspect it might have something to do with the changes to circ2.pm for holidays. 18:11 kados cm: hardcoded where? 18:10 cm it's just defaulting to the hardcoded 21 days. 18:10 cm hi. i just discovered that our due dates aren't calculating. 18:03 rch hi cm 18:02 cm rch, are you here? 14:20 kados hdl: much better, thanks! 13:48 hdl kados : I committed a fix. 13:39 Lea working! Excellent! 13:32 Lea er..ok, that's different? i feel like a noob 13:32 kados Lea: check your system preferences for the right links to the dev key and associates code 13:31 kados Lea: that's alexa 13:31 Lea http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=sc_fe_c_0_15763381_10/105-5944836-6510044?ie=UTF8&node=269962011&no=15763381&me=A36L942TSJ2AJA 13:30 hdl :| 13:30 kados er? 13:29 Lea ok. I'm just seeing that searches cost $0.0003 per search 13:29 kados Lea: it's free 13:29 Lea hi, anyone know if the amazon devkey costs money? 13:28 kados hdl: just updated, and searchlooksgood but when I click on 'import' it doesn't load the record 13:25 hdl try this one. 13:20 hdl kados : that is make asynch search. 13:20 hdl kados : Code is asynchronous. 12:50 kados hdl: but it's getting better :-) 12:50 kados hdl: results aren't printed as they are retrieved 12:50 kados hdl: it's still not asynchronous 12:24 hdl print when elements are received. 12:24 hdl Should be more reactive. 12:24 hdl committed. 12:23 hdl Committing a new one 12:15 kados hdl: many times they are simply unavailable 12:15 kados hdl: z-servers are too fickle to wait IMO 12:15 kados hdl: if one z-target is slow, they all apear slow 12:15 kados hdl: that's the prob I'm afraid 12:15 kados still waiting 12:14 hdl But I am waiting all the connections end before returing results. 12:14 kados waiting and waiting 12:14 kados and it's not returning results from it 12:14 kados because I added NPL's zserver which is very fast 12:14 hdl Yes it is. 12:14 kados so it must not be asynchronous 12:14 kados hmmm 12:13 hdl + he only got 5 results. 12:13 hdl I could not have the same code as Tumer's one taht displayed partial results. 12:12 hdl Yea. 12:12 kados that's a long long time to wait :-) 12:12 hdl could be. 12:12 kados hdl: maybe loc is super slow? 12:12 kados hdl: finally returned 12:11 kados still waiting 12:10 kados hdl: koharel22.liblime.com 12:09 hdl the first 80 ones. 12:09 hdl It should. 12:09 kados hdl: maybe it will return results? 12:09 owen kados: I'm getting a javascript error on their site, though. They need to take NPL's custom javascript out of their opacuserjs system preference 12:09 kados hdl: it's taking a long time 12:09 kados hdl: wait ... 12:09 dewey kados is, like, helping us LibLime folk with something at the moment 12:09 hdl kados ? 12:08 hdl what is your query (logs) 12:07 kados hdl: same prob as before, no results found 12:07 kados P search.pl 12:07 kados hdl: cvs update search.pl 12:07 owen yeah, I think we made a good choice to leave the opac main page completely open 12:06 kados owen: those sysprefs sure leave a lot of room for customization 12:06 kados owen: yea, pretty nifty, eh? :-) 12:06 kados hdl: I'll test 12:06 hdl kados : z3950 search works for me now. 11:40 owen Hey kados, I just saw your SMFPL press release in my aggregator. Their OPAC looks good--I like what they've done with opac-main 11:35 kados thanks 11:35 hdl Should work soon 11:35 kados k 11:35 kados congrats to paul! 11:34 kados hdl: I get 'Nothing found' 11:34 kados hdl: using searchresult.tmpl from default templates 11:34 kados hdl: sorry, new search.pl doesn't work for me