Time Nick Message 10:57 hdl He weighted 3kg500 10:57 hdl Matthieu was borne yesterday morning at 11 am (Church Time in France :D ) 10:56 hdl paul is 4 times' DADDY 10:51 hdl ok 10:51 kados hdl: can you tell koha-devel how you did it ? 10:51 hdl No problem 10:51 kados hdl: thx, and sorry 10:51 hdl I shall revert the file. 10:50 kados hdl: so I'm not sure cvs update -j 1.3.2.14 -j 1.3.2.15 search.pl actually worked 10:50 kados hdl: I tried manually copying the reverted search.pl into my install and it still has the same prob 10:50 hdl be careful on the roads. 10:50 kados hdl: I need to go to the office (still at home) 10:47 kados wtf! 10:47 kados :( 10:47 kados Entries has no tag 10:46 kados perhaps my cvs -A changed the branch to HEAD 10:46 kados unless I committed wrong 10:46 kados savannah-- 10:46 hdl yes :( 10:45 kados hdl: it's not linked to rel_2_2 tag! 10:45 kados hdl: do you see my commit message? 10:45 kados cvs seems to have a prob 10:44 kados strange 10:42 hdl Should have been corrected. 10:42 kados yep 10:42 hdl only the firs term is taken ? 10:42 kados so both terms aren't captured 10:42 kados when I warn I mean 10:42 kados title is reported as 'tom' with awarn 10:41 kados hmmm 10:41 kados etc 10:41 kados 10 minute guide to time management / 10:41 kados 10 minute guide to selling (just about) anything / 10:41 kados 10 days to a more powerful vocabulary / 10:41 kados results I get back are: 10:41 kados target is LOC 10:41 kados sure 10:40 hdl Can you give some more information ? 10:40 kados hdl: a title search on tom sawyer returns strange results 10:40 kados hdl: now I'm using the reverted search.pl and searchresult.tmpl from default 10:40 kados hdl: it still works strangely for me 10:34 kados I'll document how I did it on koha-devel 10:34 hdl Good. 10:34 kados ok, this time it worked 10:34 hdl Changing forge again ? :D 10:32 kados hdl: any ideas? 10:32 kados cvs commit search.pl 10:32 kados cd /new/repo/koha/z3950 10:32 kados mv search.pl /new/repo/koha/z3950/search.pl 10:32 kados then I did: 10:32 kados which reverted the version 10:31 kados cvs update -j 1.3.2.14 -j 1.3.2.15 search.pl 10:31 kados I did: 10:31 kados hdl: yea, it doesn't let me commit, exits with no error 10:28 kados hdl: I reverted search.pl but it won' let me commit :( 10:28 kados hdl: now I'm having strange cvs probs 10:14 Lea ah, amazon :D 10:13 Lea i wonder if there is a z39 server for media 10:12 Lea add biblio->empty biblio gets me ther 10:11 Lea ah, superb! 10:11 kados ? 10:11 Lea ie, it's not there. I can only access after a search 10:10 Lea i didn't notice the editor in the menus 10:10 Lea ah ok. I'll try it 10:10 kados Lea: koha.liblime.com -> click on 'MARC Editor' -> type something in the ISBN and click 'Z39.50 Search' at the top 10:09 kados Lea: you don't need the marc record to exist first to use the marc editor 10:09 Lea yes, however you need the marc record to exist first. What I'm looking for is pulling in records via the z39 server. I can script this with books as they have a unique ISBN, but video/music items will have to be searched on title, producing lots of results. I wondered if there was an "online importer" in koha 10:07 kados Lea: there's an integrated MARC editor in koha, haven't you seen that? 10:06 Lea kados: are you saying you need to have the marc record already? i'm confused 10:04 Lea Under biblio framework? 10:04 Lea I'll give it a go 10:03 Lea hi kados 10:01 kados hdl even :-) 10:01 kados hi hld 10:01 hdl hi kados. 10:00 kados Lea: you can use the Z39.50 search integrated into the MARC editor to find records and import them into the editor 10:00 kados Lea: morning 09:44 Lea if anyone is awake: can i add biblios via the z39 servers? 06:51 Lea nn 06:51 Lea madness 06:51 Lea i can ping servers but wget is failing on routing :( 06:50 Lea i have to sort out a routing issue :( 06:50 chris with the marc/z3950 06:50 chris thanks, good luck 06:50 Lea have a good sleep man :D 06:50 chris heh 06:50 Lea (Believe that you'll believe anything!) 06:50 Lea anyway, i'm aware this is OT and I don't _generally_ have any hard feelings. 06:49 chris yeah only took what 300 years ? :) 06:49 Lea yeah, i can imagine. Them lucky gits got their own money and law making powers though :( 06:49 chris so they say the same thing :) 06:48 Lea ah right 06:48 chris lots of scots or descendants of scots in nz 06:47 chris hehe 06:47 Lea them rugby games take on a whole new dimension! 06:47 Lea i really know where you're coming from. Just think if you had to abide by Oz laws and use Oz money! 06:46 Lea :D 06:46 Lea Wales and anyone playing the saxons 06:46 chris wales and anyone playing england? 06:46 Lea i support 2 teams to 06:46 Lea ah 06:46 chris i support 2 teams, nz and anyone playing australia 06:46 Lea ok, i promise :D 06:45 chris just dont support australia 06:45 chris heh 06:45 Lea it would also give me the chance to support a decent rugby team :D :D :D 06:45 Lea sounds good to me :D 06:45 chris yep, a little more temperate 06:44 Lea People say it's a lot like Wales 06:44 Lea i do want to visit NZ though. It's more like home to me 06:44 Lea hehe 06:44 chris bah ... australia :) 06:43 Lea ah, yes. I may be moving to Australia soon 06:43 chris new zealand 06:43 Lea where are you? 06:43 chris now its time for me to go to sleep 06:43 chris no worries 06:43 Lea hey chris, thanks mate. much appreciated. 06:42 Lea yeah, i wouldn't 06:42 chris or just use the cms to edit the templates, dont touch koha 06:42 Lea great stuff. Is there docs on that or am i "using the source"? :D 06:41 chris yep 06:41 Lea ah ok, so with GET/POST variables? 06:41 chris html::template 06:41 chris its html 06:40 Lea yeah, that's what I'm asking really. Is there some docs on the input/output params of the perl scripts? 06:40 chris or at least some files which the templates include 06:40 chris is let the cms control the templates 06:40 Lea but i didn't want EVERYTHING to do with koha inside an iframe 06:40 Lea just using a CMS as an intranet type thing, then integrating koha into that 06:40 chris all you need to do then 06:39 Lea no no 06:39 chris i was meaning using koha to handle docs and pdf's etc 06:39 chris thats even easier 06:39 chris oh that 06:39 Lea I just think Joomla would be an easy way for the library staff to manage notices, opening times, etc 06:38 chris yep 06:38 Lea can you simply call the perl scripts independantly? thus making your own front end? 06:38 chris its all a matter of time 06:38 Lea ok 06:38 chris wouldnt be hard to do with something like drupal or joomla 06:36 Lea ok 06:36 chris when you deleted it from koha you could delete it from the cms too 06:36 Lea http://zoom.z3950.org/bind/python/ :D :D :D 06:36 chris yep 06:36 Lea so was it a fire and forget from the CMS->Koha or did you get the koha pages to talk back to the CMS? 06:35 Lea cool! 06:35 chris its backended with cvs 06:35 Lea oh ok 06:35 chris kea 06:35 chris one we wrote ourselves years ago 06:35 Lea oh right! do you mind if i ask you what CMS? 06:35 chris basically you add the document n the cms and then it redirects to koha, passing over info like the url, size, author, title etc 06:34 chris (i did it :)) 06:34 chris magic 06:33 Lea ok, did they do integration magic or simply have the koha pages in an iframe? 06:33 Lea it's just that for library staff, a CMS is way easier to manage 06:33 chris katipo have done that with our cms 06:32 chris in that case, yep 06:32 Lea yeah 06:32 chris using a cms to publish digital documents then catalogue them with koha? 06:32 Lea yeah, it's something I'm meaning to look at but I'm in LOVE with python :D 06:32 chris integrated in what way? 06:32 chris if you like python, you'd like ruby :) 06:32 Lea oh, there was one other unrelated question going though my head: I wondered if anyone had integrated koha into Joomla! or any other CMS? 06:31 chris theres one for ruby 06:31 chris bound to be 06:31 Lea i wonder if there is a zoom library port to python 06:31 chris :) 06:31 Lea ok, cool man. Looks like I have a busy day :D 06:31 chris yep 06:31 Lea otherwise it wont import into the framework 06:30 chris yep 06:30 Lea because I'll have to get the MARC file, copy only those fields I want to keep, then write out the "localised" version 06:30 Lea actually, yes this is slightly more complicated 06:29 chris id use ZOOM 06:29 chris querys some z3950 server(s) and writes the marc to another file 06:29 Lea yes, ok. How should i make the z39 call or do i need to write a library to do that? :) 06:29 chris so some kinda script that reads a file of isbn's 06:29 chris and then you can use bulkmarcimport.pl to load them into koha 06:28 chris basically what you want is to just grab marc records 06:28 chris youd probably have to do it from scratch 06:28 Lea ok, what are the scripts I should look at? 06:27 chris yeah im sure you could shell script it 06:27 Lea is there a way i can automate this? I mean, i have a lot of ISBN numbers 06:27 chris but you get lots of false positives with the title 06:27 chris title works too 06:27 Lea ah cool 06:27 chris yeah thats the easiest 06:26 chris they carry catalogue records even if they dont carry the actual items 06:26 Lea hey chris, thanks for the pointers. I'm going to try it. It searches on ISBN right? 06:26 chris library of congress etc 06:26 chris yeah, british national library 06:26 Lea i guess you just need to put in some BIG libraries 06:26 chris and it can try them all 06:26 Lea ah ok 06:26 chris but koha lets you specify lots of servers 06:25 Lea so is it of limited use then? 06:25 chris computer says no ..... *cough* 06:23 Lea is it like DNS where unknown books will be forwarded on or is it a case of "not in outr library. computer says no" 06:22 Lea ok thanks chris 06:19 chris or for one closer to you ... yaz-client library.ox.ac.uk:210 06:18 chris if that works on the koha server .. then the z3950 client in koha oughta work 06:18 chris yaz-client z3950.loc.gov:7090 06:17 chris ie 06:16 chris easiest test is to use yaz-client 06:16 chris open connection like http 06:12 Lea guess i'm just wondering if i need to change my firewall policies 06:11 Lea I'm going to be losing a lot of data with this migration and I'm thinking z39 might help with that. I tried unsuccessfully to connect to a server. I'm wondering if the server opens up a port back on your machine or if it uses an open connection (like http) 06:10 Lea I popped on because I realised that this data mapping is a little bit os a nightmare and was after info regarding Z39 servers 06:09 Lea monday mornings :( 06:09 Lea oh hi Dewey. Not bad. Just got in after the weekend 06:09 dewey what's up, Lea 06:09 Lea hi