Time  Nick     Message
12:05 kados    paul: I am now
13:04 cm       kados: so is dev_week working with npl's templates?
13:07 kados    cm: yep, the core functions work
13:08 kados    cm: having trouble with something in particular?
13:08 kados    cm: IMO, you guys should re-implement the ccfls templates in css and just use NPL
13:09 kados    cm: so you don't have to maintain your own templates (quite a task!)
13:09 cm       yeah! i agree.  don't know if Kyle will, though.  ;)
13:09 cm       i am having trouble.  I updated yesterday, and I can't get search results anymore.
13:10 cm       i'm using npl's opac template at the moment, & once I figured out how to get to the search page
13:10 cm       (the links seem to be to /search instead of just 'search', so it was going outside of the cgi-bin)
13:10 kados    cm: the search API was adjusted, you'll need to re-index
13:11 cm       I did that yesterday, too.
13:11 kados    ahh ... forgot to mention that
13:11 kados    you'll need  ScriptAlias directive
13:11 kados    ScriptAlias /search /cgi-bin/koha/search
13:11 cm       in httpd.conf or somesuch?
13:11 kados    in your opac virtual host apache conf
13:11 cm       ok
13:12 kados    then reload or restart apache
13:12 cm       alright.  thanks.
13:12 cm       I'm also getting this when I try searching:
13:13 cm       You did not specify any search criteria. Can't call method "size" on an undefined value at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Search.pm line 2903.
13:13 kados    yep ... you need to re-index with the new conf files I bet
13:13 cm       ok.
14:49 cm       kados: looks like I'm getting the same results. :/
14:50 cm       you were talking about the config files in zebraplugin/etc & zebraplugin/zebradb, right?
14:52 kados    cm: how large is your ccl.properties file?
14:53 cm       1069
14:53 kados    the one you need is 39418
14:53 cm       quite a difference!
14:54 kados    :-)
14:54 cm       is it in dev_week, or the ones tumer just committed?
14:54 kados    looks like it's not in dev_week, I"ll commit mine now
14:54 cm       ok
14:56 thd      kados: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:standards:cataloguing_classification:resources is now posted.
14:57 kados    cm: ok, update the zebraplugin/ccl.properties file
14:58 kados    thd: that document needs an attribution statement
15:00 kados    thd: and it'd be worth posting a note to the list about it
15:00 kados    thd: that looks like it was a ton of work -- nice job
15:00 thd      kados: I know that attribution is not necessary but I thought that other people with different comments about the resources might add their own in parallel rather than always overwriting the existing one.
15:01 kados    cm: I thought for sure I had already committed that ccl file ... I think paul and hdl have seen it already ... but I don't see it anywhere else :/
15:01 kados    cm: you will need to update your record.abs, bib1.att, default.idx, and .chr files too to get all the benefits of the new API
15:01 thd      kados: Somehow it does not look like much work but I know in fact it was about two weeks work.
15:03 cm       thanks, kados.  what's the commit date on those? the 24th?
15:03 thd      I had to inspect all the material I found to comment properly on the content and I had not seen much of the elementary material
15:05 kados    cm: looks like Sep 18 to me
15:05 kados    cm: top of bib1:
15:05 kados    # $Id: bib1.att,v 1.1.2.2 2006/09/18 20:02:47 kados Exp $
15:07 thd      kados: maybe we could add the nice template or whatever dokuwiki calls it for the namespace.  Although, the justification problem itself is not very evident with that exact content at my screen resolution.
15:07 cm       i have the right one, then.  it's probably just the ccl.  Thanks!
15:08 kados    thd: Stephen and I have been conspiring to switch to MediaWiki soon
15:08 kados    thd: so your formatting problems will soon be resolved :-)
15:08 kados    thd: MediaWiki is the wiki used by Wikipedia
15:09 thd      kados: the template that I refered to makes DokuWiki look somewhat like mediawiki
15:12 thd      kados: I have examined the pros and cons of DokuWiki vs MediaWiki and they are really very close if you take all the plugins into consideration.  MediaWiki will probably always be ahead for most features merely because of the popularity.
15:12 thd      of Wikipedia
15:14 thd      kados: The only significant deficit I found for DokuWiki is locking the whole page even if editing just a portion of the page and the lack of a scheme to resolve edit conflicts so that locking is required.
15:17 thd      kados: I think the biggest advantage to MediaWiki is that more people will be likely to contribute if they are already familiar with the slightly different MediaWiki syntax.
15:38 thd      kados: are you still there?
02:32 btoumi   hi all
02:41 hdl      chris around ?
02:46 toins    hello all
09:03 cm       kados: reindexing didn't work; I think it couldn't find the ccl file. I'm getting an error about it in the logs:
09:03 cm        prob ZOOM error 10013 "CCL configuration error" (addinfo: "no 'cclqual' or 'cclfile' specified") from diag-set 'ZOOM' at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Search.pm line 2887., referer: http://192.168.20.36:8000/search
09:13 kados    cm: right ...
09:13 kados    cm: you probably need to update your koha.xml
09:13 kados    cm: lemme check that I committed that
09:14 cm       I think the one i'm using is from Aug 4.
09:14 paul     hi kados & cm
09:14 cm       hi paul.  :)
09:15 hdl      hi kados & cm & tumer
09:15 tumer    hi hdl paul cm &kados
09:15 cm       hi hdl, & tumer. & kados too, of course
09:15 kados    hehe
09:16 kados    this is getting out of hand :-)
09:16 cm       yup.  paul:  how's the weather in Marseille?
09:17 paul     very nice, thanks.
09:17 tumer    kados: in head i have used <ccl2rpn> in koha.xml for describing the ccl.proprties file may be u use the same?
09:17 paul     today, my 1st son is 11 !!!
09:17 kados    hmmm ... someone added # comments to koha.xml
09:17 tumer    happy birthday junior paul
09:17 kados    paul: congrats :-)
09:17 kados    tumer: I had to create another element to do that
09:18 kados    tumer: because zebra was complaining about an unknown element
09:18 tumer    yes another elemet called <ccl2rpn>
09:18 tumer    under config
09:18 tumer    where koha elements are
09:18 kados    but that's not quite ideal
09:19 tumer    ?
09:19 hdl      happy bday Simon
09:19 kados    what I did was:
09:19 kados    <serverinfo id="biblioserver">
09:19 kados        <ccl2rpn>/koha/etc/ccl.properties</ccl2rpn>
09:19 kados    <user><password>
09:19 kados    </serverinfo>
09:19 kados    that way, the biblioserver can have a different ccl file than others
09:19 kados    and you can put any Z39.50 server you want in the koha.xml and it'll work
09:19 tumer    oh i see
09:20 kados    I'll commit mine now
09:20 kados    tumer: I also updated Context.pm in dev_week
09:20 cm       cool.  :)
09:20 kados    tumer: Zconn_auth is no longer needed
09:20 kados    cm: committed
09:20 tumer    i havent been looking dev week
09:21 cm       kados: thanks! i'll try it out.
09:21 tumer    i use PQF in forms u know
09:22 kados    :(
09:22 tumer    i think you are passing parameters to it and using only one
09:22 kados    tumer: ?
09:23 tumer    zconn can do both isnt that it?
09:23 kados    tumer: yes
09:23 tumer    cool
09:23 kados    and it can handle paramaters regarding the connection, including piggyback
09:23 kados    which can make for very fast query so long as you don't need relevance ranking and stemming
09:24 kados    or field weighting
09:24 dewey    well, field weighting is really powerful!
09:24 tumer    kados:i noticed cause you by mistake committed to head
09:24 kados    I did?
09:25 kados    is savannah acting up?
09:25 tumer    kados: yes to AuthoritiesMarc.pm
09:25 kados    cuz I don't even have a head repo on my dev_week box
09:25 kados    don't see how I could have committed to head
09:25 tumer    well your name was on the change log
09:26 kados    very weird
09:26 paul     cvs goes booboo another time ?
09:26 kados    paul: it seems like savanna cvs is confused :-)
09:27 tumer    kados: the reason i am using PQF in forms is because its the fastest.
09:27 tumer    kados: ut i created a form to accept any raw query in any format as well
09:27 kados    tumer: yes, but you miss out on all the query transformations for field weighting, ranking, and stemming
09:28 tumer    i dont have to just did not have time for it
09:28 tumer    PQF supports that as well
09:29 kados    tumer: it's not something that one or another query langauge supports
09:29 kados    tumer: you have to take an incoming query, parse it into a multi-tree query, then hand it to zebra
09:29 tumer    its zebra feature right?
09:29 kados    tumer: no
09:29 kados    tumer: it's something I wrote
09:29 kados    tumer: to see it in action, search on 'it' here: http://zoomopac.liblime.com/
09:30 cm       kados: it worked. thanks!
09:30 kados    tumer: the books with 'it' as the only thing in the title come up first
09:30 kados    cm: great!
09:30 kados    ok... I will be back in 15 minutes
09:43 paul     kados back ?
09:46 paul     toins & hdl & paul would be pleased to ask a question to kados when he comes back...
10:02 paul     kados : i've sent a mail on koha-devel, let us know when you are back
10:36 kados    paul: I'll read your email
10:37 paul     it's really strange : on this side of the ocean, you needed 66 mn to be back, not 15. Is it possible that there is a black hole or a 4th dimension line between us ?
10:37 kados    paul: meeting went over scheduled time :-)
10:37 kados    sorry about that :-)
10:38 paul     it was just a joke ;-)
10:38 kados    OK, I"ll respond on koha-devel
10:38 paul     & don't be afraid, in France, it's the same. It's only in switzerland it seems that when someone tells you "it will last X hours", it last X hours :-D
10:39 kados    hehe
10:39 paul     (is switzerland as famous for their clocks in US as they are in France ?)
10:39 kados    yes!
10:40 paul     sounds like an explanation so...
10:51 kados    paul: response sent
11:05 paul     response to response sent
11:05 kados    paul: in fact, intranet interface is done too ... but I haven't committed it :-)
11:05 kados    paul: I will do so now
11:05 paul     great news !
11:05 toins    oh yeah !
11:05 paul     so almost everything is done, really nice to read...
11:05 kados    not to say there aren't gaps :-)
11:06 paul     maybe we could give a hand for authorities ?
11:06 kados    only the minimum requirements of liblime clients work
11:06 kados    yes ... authorities need to be tested
11:06 hdl      yes.
11:06 kados    according to tumer, they work
11:06 kados    but I haven't had a chance to test as NPL doesn't use authorities
11:06 paul     right, but you heavily documented your code and not so  many things are missing for unimarc i think
11:06 paul     on dev_week you commited some things on authoritiesMarc.pm ?
11:07 paul     or is it only on head ?
11:07 kados    I don't know ...
11:07 paul     tumer ?
11:07 dewey    rumour has it tumer is here for a few seconds ;-) or debugging it very fast as it it in use
11:07 tumer    what is committed to head regarding authoritiesmarc is dev_week stuff
11:08 tumer    changes to ModBiblio and so on
11:08 paul     thanks tumer. so it's not cleaned as Biblio.pm right ?
11:08 tumer    and cvs says kados did it
11:08 tumer    nope
11:09 paul     ok, it's clear now.
11:09 paul     kados : there's no need for you to have this done on dev_week, right ?
11:09 kados    paul: right
11:09 kados    paul: but I may have done it while cleaning
11:09 kados    paul: to make sure nothing was broken
11:09 kados    I did many things last weeknd, can't remember all of them :-)
11:09 paul     if you didi it, you didn't commit it.
11:11 kados    hmm ... maybe it ended up in head
11:12 kados    the version on my dev_week box is:
11:12 kados    # $Id: AuthoritiesMarc.pm,v 1.33 2006/09/24 20:00:51 kados Exp $
11:12 paul     grrr...
11:12 kados    wow ... in my entries file it is in head?!?!
11:12 kados    wtf?
11:13 paul     (toins neither)
11:13 tumer    neither i
11:13 paul     I also never recieved a mail for the commit you did yesterday with improved koha.xml file
11:13 kados    really?!?!
11:13 kados    I got one!
11:13 paul     really !
11:14 kados    something strange going on with our cvs?
11:14 kados    ok, I've re-committed AuthoritiesMarc.pm
11:14 kados    let's see if it works
11:14 kados    no!!!
11:14 kados    it's still listed as HEAD
11:14 kados    wtf
11:15 hdl      Maybe is listed as HEAD in your CVS Entry file.
11:15 kados    yes, but how?
11:16 kados    it seems there are many differences
11:16 toins    cat CVS/Tag ?
11:16 kados    between dev_week and HEAD
11:16 kados    maybe you guys can figure out which is best?
11:16 kados    I can email you my version
11:17 kados    well ... nothing is really changed I think
11:17 tumer    head will not work with dev_week
11:17 kados    tumer: right
11:17 kados    tumer: so I'm sorry, I seem to have committed to head without meaning to
11:17 toins    i ever some pb with cvs between rel_3_0 & head too
11:17 paul     cvs has problems, we don't need this ... :-(
11:18 toins    s/ever/ever have/
11:18 kados    paul/hdl/toins: for dev_week to work with authorities, I think all that needs fixed is the subroutine calls need to be adjusted with the new changes
11:18 kados    but I haven't tested
11:19 paul     no prob, hdl will take care of it next week, ok HDL ?
11:20 hdl      I note that.
11:20 paul     ok, so, at the end of next week we will have a rel_3_0 with zebra working !
11:21 paul     sound this challenge possible toins & hdl ?
11:21 paul     (knowing i won't help you, as i'll be in Paris)
11:22 hdl      This is challenging.
11:23 paul     ok, i'll send a mail to SAN-OP now !
11:30 toins    hi Sylvinho
11:30 paul     tiens, un autre marseillais !
11:30 paul     va sur #koha-fr pour le chanel en VF.
11:31 paul     (or speak english if you stay here ;-) )
11:31 Sylvinho hi men
11:31 Sylvinho :p
11:31 toins    wowo
11:31 toins    wow
11:49 Sylvinho bye