Time Nick Message 12:05 kados paul: I am now 13:04 cm kados: so is dev_week working with npl's templates? 13:07 kados cm: yep, the core functions work 13:08 kados cm: having trouble with something in particular? 13:08 kados cm: IMO, you guys should re-implement the ccfls templates in css and just use NPL 13:09 kados cm: so you don't have to maintain your own templates (quite a task!) 13:09 cm yeah! i agree. don't know if Kyle will, though. ;) 13:09 cm i am having trouble. I updated yesterday, and I can't get search results anymore. 13:10 cm i'm using npl's opac template at the moment, & once I figured out how to get to the search page 13:10 cm (the links seem to be to /search instead of just 'search', so it was going outside of the cgi-bin) 13:10 kados cm: the search API was adjusted, you'll need to re-index 13:11 cm I did that yesterday, too. 13:11 kados ahh ... forgot to mention that 13:11 kados you'll need ScriptAlias directive 13:11 kados ScriptAlias /search /cgi-bin/koha/search 13:11 cm in httpd.conf or somesuch? 13:11 kados in your opac virtual host apache conf 13:11 cm ok 13:12 kados then reload or restart apache 13:12 cm alright. thanks. 13:12 cm I'm also getting this when I try searching: 13:13 cm You did not specify any search criteria. Can't call method "size" on an undefined value at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Search.pm line 2903. 13:13 kados yep ... you need to re-index with the new conf files I bet 13:13 cm ok. 14:49 cm kados: looks like I'm getting the same results. :/ 14:50 cm you were talking about the config files in zebraplugin/etc & zebraplugin/zebradb, right? 14:52 kados cm: how large is your ccl.properties file? 14:53 cm 1069 14:53 kados the one you need is 39418 14:53 cm quite a difference! 14:54 kados :-) 14:54 cm is it in dev_week, or the ones tumer just committed? 14:54 kados looks like it's not in dev_week, I"ll commit mine now 14:54 cm ok 14:56 thd kados: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:standards:cataloguing_classification:resources is now posted. 14:57 kados cm: ok, update the zebraplugin/ccl.properties file 14:58 kados thd: that document needs an attribution statement 15:00 kados thd: and it'd be worth posting a note to the list about it 15:00 kados thd: that looks like it was a ton of work -- nice job 15:00 thd kados: I know that attribution is not necessary but I thought that other people with different comments about the resources might add their own in parallel rather than always overwriting the existing one. 15:01 kados cm: I thought for sure I had already committed that ccl file ... I think paul and hdl have seen it already ... but I don't see it anywhere else :/ 15:01 kados cm: you will need to update your record.abs, bib1.att, default.idx, and .chr files too to get all the benefits of the new API 15:01 thd kados: Somehow it does not look like much work but I know in fact it was about two weeks work. 15:03 cm thanks, kados. what's the commit date on those? the 24th? 15:03 thd I had to inspect all the material I found to comment properly on the content and I had not seen much of the elementary material 15:05 kados cm: looks like Sep 18 to me 15:05 kados cm: top of bib1: 15:05 kados # $Id: bib1.att,v 1.1.2.2 2006/09/18 20:02:47 kados Exp $ 15:07 thd kados: maybe we could add the nice template or whatever dokuwiki calls it for the namespace. Although, the justification problem itself is not very evident with that exact content at my screen resolution. 15:07 cm i have the right one, then. it's probably just the ccl. Thanks! 15:08 kados thd: Stephen and I have been conspiring to switch to MediaWiki soon 15:08 kados thd: so your formatting problems will soon be resolved :-) 15:08 kados thd: MediaWiki is the wiki used by Wikipedia 15:09 thd kados: the template that I refered to makes DokuWiki look somewhat like mediawiki 15:12 thd kados: I have examined the pros and cons of DokuWiki vs MediaWiki and they are really very close if you take all the plugins into consideration. MediaWiki will probably always be ahead for most features merely because of the popularity. 15:12 thd of Wikipedia 15:14 thd kados: The only significant deficit I found for DokuWiki is locking the whole page even if editing just a portion of the page and the lack of a scheme to resolve edit conflicts so that locking is required. 15:17 thd kados: I think the biggest advantage to MediaWiki is that more people will be likely to contribute if they are already familiar with the slightly different MediaWiki syntax. 15:38 thd kados: are you still there? 02:32 btoumi hi all 02:41 hdl chris around ? 02:46 toins hello all 09:03 cm kados: reindexing didn't work; I think it couldn't find the ccl file. I'm getting an error about it in the logs: 09:03 cm prob ZOOM error 10013 "CCL configuration error" (addinfo: "no 'cclqual' or 'cclfile' specified") from diag-set 'ZOOM' at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Search.pm line 2887., referer: http://192.168.20.36:8000/search 09:13 kados cm: right ... 09:13 kados cm: you probably need to update your koha.xml 09:13 kados cm: lemme check that I committed that 09:14 cm I think the one i'm using is from Aug 4. 09:14 paul hi kados & cm 09:14 cm hi paul. :) 09:15 hdl hi kados & cm & tumer 09:15 tumer hi hdl paul cm &kados 09:15 cm hi hdl, & tumer. & kados too, of course 09:15 kados hehe 09:16 kados this is getting out of hand :-) 09:16 cm yup. paul: how's the weather in Marseille? 09:17 paul very nice, thanks. 09:17 tumer kados: in head i have used <ccl2rpn> in koha.xml for describing the ccl.proprties file may be u use the same? 09:17 paul today, my 1st son is 11 !!! 09:17 kados hmmm ... someone added # comments to koha.xml 09:17 tumer happy birthday junior paul 09:17 kados paul: congrats :-) 09:17 kados tumer: I had to create another element to do that 09:18 kados tumer: because zebra was complaining about an unknown element 09:18 tumer yes another elemet called <ccl2rpn> 09:18 tumer under config 09:18 tumer where koha elements are 09:18 kados but that's not quite ideal 09:19 tumer ? 09:19 hdl happy bday Simon 09:19 kados what I did was: 09:19 kados <serverinfo id="biblioserver"> 09:19 kados <ccl2rpn>/koha/etc/ccl.properties</ccl2rpn> 09:19 kados <user><password> 09:19 kados </serverinfo> 09:19 kados that way, the biblioserver can have a different ccl file than others 09:19 kados and you can put any Z39.50 server you want in the koha.xml and it'll work 09:19 tumer oh i see 09:20 kados I'll commit mine now 09:20 kados tumer: I also updated Context.pm in dev_week 09:20 cm cool. :) 09:20 kados tumer: Zconn_auth is no longer needed 09:20 kados cm: committed 09:20 tumer i havent been looking dev week 09:21 cm kados: thanks! i'll try it out. 09:21 tumer i use PQF in forms u know 09:22 kados :( 09:22 tumer i think you are passing parameters to it and using only one 09:22 kados tumer: ? 09:23 tumer zconn can do both isnt that it? 09:23 kados tumer: yes 09:23 tumer cool 09:23 kados and it can handle paramaters regarding the connection, including piggyback 09:23 kados which can make for very fast query so long as you don't need relevance ranking and stemming 09:24 kados or field weighting 09:24 dewey well, field weighting is really powerful! 09:24 tumer kados:i noticed cause you by mistake committed to head 09:24 kados I did? 09:25 kados is savannah acting up? 09:25 tumer kados: yes to AuthoritiesMarc.pm 09:25 kados cuz I don't even have a head repo on my dev_week box 09:25 kados don't see how I could have committed to head 09:25 tumer well your name was on the change log 09:26 kados very weird 09:26 paul cvs goes booboo another time ? 09:26 kados paul: it seems like savanna cvs is confused :-) 09:27 tumer kados: the reason i am using PQF in forms is because its the fastest. 09:27 tumer kados: ut i created a form to accept any raw query in any format as well 09:27 kados tumer: yes, but you miss out on all the query transformations for field weighting, ranking, and stemming 09:28 tumer i dont have to just did not have time for it 09:28 tumer PQF supports that as well 09:29 kados tumer: it's not something that one or another query langauge supports 09:29 kados tumer: you have to take an incoming query, parse it into a multi-tree query, then hand it to zebra 09:29 tumer its zebra feature right? 09:29 kados tumer: no 09:29 kados tumer: it's something I wrote 09:29 kados tumer: to see it in action, search on 'it' here: http://zoomopac.liblime.com/ 09:30 cm kados: it worked. thanks! 09:30 kados tumer: the books with 'it' as the only thing in the title come up first 09:30 kados cm: great! 09:30 kados ok... I will be back in 15 minutes 09:43 paul kados back ? 09:46 paul toins & hdl & paul would be pleased to ask a question to kados when he comes back... 10:02 paul kados : i've sent a mail on koha-devel, let us know when you are back 10:36 kados paul: I'll read your email 10:37 paul it's really strange : on this side of the ocean, you needed 66 mn to be back, not 15. Is it possible that there is a black hole or a 4th dimension line between us ? 10:37 kados paul: meeting went over scheduled time :-) 10:37 kados sorry about that :-) 10:38 paul it was just a joke ;-) 10:38 kados OK, I"ll respond on koha-devel 10:38 paul & don't be afraid, in France, it's the same. It's only in switzerland it seems that when someone tells you "it will last X hours", it last X hours :-D 10:39 kados hehe 10:39 paul (is switzerland as famous for their clocks in US as they are in France ?) 10:39 kados yes! 10:40 paul sounds like an explanation so... 10:51 kados paul: response sent 11:05 paul response to response sent 11:05 kados paul: in fact, intranet interface is done too ... but I haven't committed it :-) 11:05 kados paul: I will do so now 11:05 paul great news ! 11:05 toins oh yeah ! 11:05 paul so almost everything is done, really nice to read... 11:05 kados not to say there aren't gaps :-) 11:06 paul maybe we could give a hand for authorities ? 11:06 kados only the minimum requirements of liblime clients work 11:06 kados yes ... authorities need to be tested 11:06 hdl yes. 11:06 kados according to tumer, they work 11:06 kados but I haven't had a chance to test as NPL doesn't use authorities 11:06 paul right, but you heavily documented your code and not so many things are missing for unimarc i think 11:06 paul on dev_week you commited some things on authoritiesMarc.pm ? 11:07 paul or is it only on head ? 11:07 kados I don't know ... 11:07 paul tumer ? 11:07 dewey rumour has it tumer is here for a few seconds ;-) or debugging it very fast as it it in use 11:07 tumer what is committed to head regarding authoritiesmarc is dev_week stuff 11:08 tumer changes to ModBiblio and so on 11:08 paul thanks tumer. so it's not cleaned as Biblio.pm right ? 11:08 tumer and cvs says kados did it 11:08 tumer nope 11:09 paul ok, it's clear now. 11:09 paul kados : there's no need for you to have this done on dev_week, right ? 11:09 kados paul: right 11:09 kados paul: but I may have done it while cleaning 11:09 kados paul: to make sure nothing was broken 11:09 kados I did many things last weeknd, can't remember all of them :-) 11:09 paul if you didi it, you didn't commit it. 11:11 kados hmm ... maybe it ended up in head 11:12 kados the version on my dev_week box is: 11:12 kados # $Id: AuthoritiesMarc.pm,v 1.33 2006/09/24 20:00:51 kados Exp $ 11:12 paul grrr... 11:12 kados wow ... in my entries file it is in head?!?! 11:12 kados wtf? 11:13 paul (toins neither) 11:13 tumer neither i 11:13 paul I also never recieved a mail for the commit you did yesterday with improved koha.xml file 11:13 kados really?!?! 11:13 kados I got one! 11:13 paul really ! 11:14 kados something strange going on with our cvs? 11:14 kados ok, I've re-committed AuthoritiesMarc.pm 11:14 kados let's see if it works 11:14 kados no!!! 11:14 kados it's still listed as HEAD 11:14 kados wtf 11:15 hdl Maybe is listed as HEAD in your CVS Entry file. 11:15 kados yes, but how? 11:16 kados it seems there are many differences 11:16 toins cat CVS/Tag ? 11:16 kados between dev_week and HEAD 11:16 kados maybe you guys can figure out which is best? 11:16 kados I can email you my version 11:17 kados well ... nothing is really changed I think 11:17 tumer head will not work with dev_week 11:17 kados tumer: right 11:17 kados tumer: so I'm sorry, I seem to have committed to head without meaning to 11:17 toins i ever some pb with cvs between rel_3_0 & head too 11:17 paul cvs has problems, we don't need this ... :-( 11:18 toins s/ever/ever have/ 11:18 kados paul/hdl/toins: for dev_week to work with authorities, I think all that needs fixed is the subroutine calls need to be adjusted with the new changes 11:18 kados but I haven't tested 11:19 paul no prob, hdl will take care of it next week, ok HDL ? 11:20 hdl I note that. 11:20 paul ok, so, at the end of next week we will have a rel_3_0 with zebra working ! 11:21 paul sound this challenge possible toins & hdl ? 11:21 paul (knowing i won't help you, as i'll be in Paris) 11:22 hdl This is challenging. 11:23 paul ok, i'll send a mail to SAN-OP now ! 11:30 toins hi Sylvinho 11:30 paul tiens, un autre marseillais ! 11:30 paul va sur #koha-fr pour le chanel en VF. 11:31 paul (or speak english if you stay here ;-) ) 11:31 Sylvinho hi men 11:31 Sylvinho :p 11:31 toins wowo 11:31 toins wow 11:49 Sylvinho bye