Time Nick Message 10:46 paul2 bye bye world. see you on thursday 10:45 paul2 kados around ? 09:08 tumer[A] power cutoff UPS running out so I am off 08:38 paul ok, zebraidx init solves it 08:36 tumer i never had it either 08:35 paul I didn't had this before !!! 08:35 paul Abandon 08:35 paul zebraidx: extract.c:1305: extract_flushRecordKeys: Assertion `ch > 0' failed. 08:35 paul 15:35:31-17/07 zebraidx(7552) [log] update grs.marcxml.record export/test.iso2709 4044 08:35 paul [paul@portable zebraplugin]$ zebraidx -g iso2709 -d biblios -c /home/paul/koha.dev/dev_week/zebraplugin/etc/zebra-biblios.cfg update export/ 08:35 paul wow ... 08:33 tumer they are the same eé or ée 08:33 paul are u sure it's not equivalent ée ? 08:33 paul ? 08:33 paul but equivalent eé 08:33 paul equivalent å(aa) 08:33 paul strange syntax : 08:32 tumer i mean i can search on accented characters by using equivalent and not Map 08:31 paul you mean you can't search on accented char ? 08:31 tumer i could not get it to work for character mapping but for stop words 08:30 tumer mapping also supposed to work 08:30 paul yep, I knew for reindexing 08:30 tumer you need reindexing after changing this file 08:29 tumer equivalent eé equivalent EE(accented) (i dont have it on keyboard) 08:28 paul ? 08:28 paul map ËÊ E 08:28 paul map éèêë e 08:28 paul so : 08:28 tumer use equivalent for lowercase and uppercase separately 08:27 paul so equivalent eé should be enough ? 08:26 tumer i use equivalent map only for stop words 08:26 paul ? 08:26 paul map ËÊ e 08:25 paul map éèêë e 08:25 tumer yes 08:25 paul correct ? 08:25 paul equivalent eé 08:25 paul is 08:25 tumer say again paul 08:25 paul 2 syntax questions : 08:25 paul it seems not to work atm. 08:25 dewey somebody said tumer was here for a few seconds ;-) 08:25 paul tumer ? 08:13 tumer so you may have french.idx which you rename to default.idx at installation or rename sort-...chr 08:11 tumer changing "sort-string-utf.chr" to "sort-string-utf_for_french.chr" will also work 08:10 tumer "sort-string-utf_for_french.chr" 08:10 tumer "sort-string-utf_for_french.chr" 08:10 tumer you will see that its related in there 08:10 tumer paul:to make zebra read from "sort-string-utf_for_french.chr" go into defaul.idx 08:08 tumer "sort-string-utf_for_french.chr" 08:04 tumer another localisation to be done 08:04 tumer all stop word has to go in here 08:04 tumer correct 08:04 paul means "the" at beginning of a string must be eliminated for ordering isn't it ? 08:04 tumer that is a stop word 08:03 paul map (^The\s) @ 08:03 paul tumer : 08:03 tumer but whatever we do KOHA will still need language adjustments at installation 08:02 tumer we should probably have a more global with most european accents in 08:00 tumer i am investigating other indexing filters in zebra currently 08:00 tumer not ebing able to rename record.abs is already causing problems with me 07:59 tumer s/valif/valid 07:59 tumer you can change the name of this file but its still valif for all 07:59 paul and during install, we will have to remane it 07:59 paul because i'll have to commit "sort-string-utf_for_french.chr" 07:58 paul (same for record.abs) 07:58 paul what is a shame is not to be able to have the name of this file as parameter. 07:58 paul yep, many thanks 07:58 tumer paul:do you follow? 07:56 tumer you should add "equivalent eé" 07:56 tumer also if you need to find probabilité when you search probabilite .. 07:54 tumer mine has lowercase {0-9}aâbcçdefgÄŸhıiîjklmnoöpqrsÅŸtuüvwxyz 07:54 tumer according to french 07:54 tumer in their normal sorting order 07:53 tumer those one should contain é etc 07:53 paul those ones ? 07:53 paul uppercase {0-9}{A-Y}ÜZÆÄØÖÅ 07:53 paul lowercase {0-9}{a-y}üzæäøöå 07:52 tumer top line a-z including accented characters 07:52 paul ??? 07:52 tumer also the alphabet should contain these charavters 07:52 paul so uncommenting it should be the solution ? 07:51 tumer yes 07:51 paul the # means it's commented, right ? 07:51 paul #map éÉ e 07:51 paul it's only 47 lines long 07:51 paul my sort-string-utf is 1.1.2.1, which is from kados it seems. 07:50 tumer hi again paul 07:50 paul tumer: i'm back 07:39 tumer ping me if you need help with .chr file 07:37 tumer i committed one with some accented characters in but i think kados overwritten that 07:36 tumer you have to define your whole alphabet in sort-string-utf.chr file 07:35 tumer the second is your .chr file in tab does not define your accented characters 07:34 tumer i sent on devel a new USMARC.pm which corrects this 07:34 tumer paul the accented character problem is due to new M:F:X 07:15 paul No results found. 07:15 paul Results for Search: biblio.title contains probabilit? 07:15 paul tumer[A]: i've a problem with accented chars too : when I search for "probabilité", I should get many answers, but I just get : 07:08 paul if yes, a good news : I've made my 1st search successfully on opaczoom-search.pl !!! 07:08 paul kados around ? 05:28 paul_lunch good night chris 05:21 chris ill try to get it up and running here and test it 05:19 tumer but i want to know whether anyone else is getting it 05:18 tumer i had to re-write my USMARC.pm to correct this 05:17 chris ahh right 05:17 tumer yes chris it reencodes the term and anything accented on your template gets broken 05:16 chris so it searches ok, but displays what you typed in wrong? 05:16 chris ahh 05:14 tumer the search term after the search displayed on screen as broken utf8 05:13 tumer the problem ocuring is this: 05:12 tumer well search even it does not exist 05:12 paul nothing related to zebra. 05:12 paul but what I say with utf-8 is that my database have moved from 8859-1 to utf-8 05:11 tumer so you can search accented characters and no problem occurs? 05:06 paul and UTF-8 works fine too... 05:05 paul (I had 2, and removed one, but made a mistake) 05:05 paul the zebra DB name was biblio and default in my koha.xml 05:04 chris :) 05:04 paul works fine !! 05:04 paul alleluia !!! 05:03 chris good suspicion paul 05:02 paul mmm... I suspect a database name problem 05:02 paul 12:02:25-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [log][app2] zebra_register_close p=0x8197478 05:02 paul 12:02:25-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [session] Connection closed by client 05:02 paul 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [request] Search OK 0 1 1+0 RPN: @attrset Bib-1 delmas 05:02 paul 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [log] user/system: 0/0 05:02 paul 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [log] term="delmas" nn=0 type=void count=0 05:02 paul 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [log] 0 keys, 0 sysnos, rank 05:02 paul 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [log] profilePath=.:/usr/local/share/idzebra/tab/:/home/paul/koha.dev/dev_week/zebraplugin/zebradb/biblios/tab/:./tab/ cwd=/home/paul/koha.dev/dev_week/zebraplugin/zebradb/biblios 05:02 paul 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [log][app2] zebra_register_open rw = 0 useshadow=0 p=0x8197478,n=,rp=(none) 05:02 paul 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [log] ResultSet '1' 05:02 paul 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [request] Init OK - ID:81/81 Name:ZOOM-C/YAZ Version:1.78/2.1.22 05:02 paul 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [request] Auth none 05:02 paul 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [log] User perm for perm.anonymous: r 05:02 paul 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [session] Starting session 14 from tcp:127.0.0.1 (pid=6504) 05:02 paul 12:02:24-17/07 [session] Connect from tcp:127.0.0.1 05:02 paul no answer with opac(search either :( 05:01 tumer or catalogue-home.pl in intranet 05:00 tumer paul: is use opac-search.pl in dev_week 04:57 tumer (:p) 04:57 tumer if you are doing a search on phrase you should index as phrase :p 04:57 tumer also write "help find" in yaz client and it gives you what attributes 4=1 is 04:56 tumer in yaz client if it works then its correct 04:56 paul what do you use ? 04:56 ToinS there is often a #' just before a declaration of sub. Anyone knows what does it mean ? 04:55 tumer well i do not use opac-zoomsearch.pl so i do not know abou whether its buggy 04:53 tumer remind me 4=1 is phrase? 04:53 paul in yaz-client works well too 04:53 paul find @attr 1=1003 @attr 4=1 @attr 5=1 "delmas" 04:53 paul what is very strange too is that 04:53 paul and got no answer either. 04:52 paul [Mon Jul 17 10:18:28 2006] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] NICE: delmas at /home/paul/koha.dev/dev_week/opac/opac-zoomsearch.pl line 539., referer: http://o19.portable.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-zoomsearch.pl 04:52 paul [Mon Jul 17 10:18:28 2006] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Full PQF: @attr 1=1003 @attr 4=1 @attr 5=1 "delmas" at /home/paul/koha.dev/dev_week/opac/opac-zoomsearch.pl line 538., referer: http://o19.portable.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-zoomsearch.pl 04:52 paul [Mon Jul 17 10:18:28 2006] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] PQF: @attr 1=1003 @attr 4=1 @attr 5=1 "delmas" at /home/paul/koha.dev/dev_week/opac/opac-zoomsearch.pl line 537., referer: http://o19.portable.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-zoomsearch.pl 04:52 paul [Mon Jul 17 10:18:28 2006] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Sort by: at /home/paul/koha.dev/dev_week/opac/opac-zoomsearch.pl line 536., referer: http://o19.portable.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-zoomsearch.pl 04:52 paul [Mon Jul 17 10:18:28 2006] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Boolean Operators: at /home/paul/koha.dev/dev_week/opac/opac-zoomsearch.pl line 534., referer: http://o19.portable.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-zoomsearch.pl 04:52 paul I also tried a search by author : 04:52 tumer hmm no 04:52 paul any idea why ? 04:52 paul but when I search on zoomopac-search, I get 0 answers 04:51 paul when I search on yaz-client : "find delmas" I get 7 answers, as expected 04:51 tumer shoot 04:51 paul I have another question tumer 04:51 paul not sure, but i'll try to investigate, chris gave me some hints. 04:51 tumer paul you ok with zebra indexing? 04:49 tumer thanks paul 04:49 paul & reconnected 3 seconds later 04:49 paul tumer: you're here, but have been disconnected 04:49 chris i can see you tumer 04:49 paul yep 04:48 tumer s/aprolem/ a problem 04:48 tumer can anybody see me there i have aprolem with connection i think 04:45 chris ok bruno, lets talk about fines 04:44 chris yep, im pretty sure thats what it is 04:43 chris i think maybe :s allows you to sort by that field 04:43 btoumi ty chris 04:43 chris will do bruno 04:42 btoumi chris:can u beep me when u are not busy to discuss about fines 04:42 chris to paul 04:42 chris melm 200$f author,author:p,author:s 04:42 chris tumer trying to explain 04:42 paul2 so title, title:p, title:s means : index this field as title, as word AND as phrase and as <s> ? 04:42 chris yes i think nothing is :w by default 04:41 paul2 and nothing means :w isn't it? 04:41 chris i dont know what :s is 04:41 paul2 hello tumer. it's me that asked a question about record.abs* 04:41 chris w = word, p = phrase, n=numeric, u=url 04:41 tumer hi chris you wanted something? 04:40 chris n = numeric 04:40 paul2 exactly the kind of paragraph I don't understand ;-) 04:40 chris p = phrase 04:39 chris f a Structure attribute of Phrase is used in conjunction with a Completeness attribute of Complete (Sub)field , the term is matched against the contents of the phrase (long word) register, if one exists for the given Use attribute. A phrase register is created for those fields in the .abs file that contains a p-specifier. 04:38 chris somewhere it must tell us what p and s are .. ill try and find it 04:38 chris The attributes can be qualified with field types to specify which character set should govern the indexing procedure for that field. The same data element may be indexed into several different fields, using different character set definitions. See the the section called “Field Structure and Character Sets â€?. The default field type is w for word . 04:38 paul2 and :p, :s, nothing ? (if you wrote something, I missed it) 04:37 chris :w = word 04:36 chris ah ha :w = word 04:35 btoumi chris: can i show with u for fines? 04:32 chris ahh tumer will know 04:31 paul s/!:w/:w/ 04:31 chris im trying to remember :) 04:31 paul and what's the difference between nothing, :p :s and !:w ? 04:31 chris and that would be the same as above 04:31 chris author,!:p,!:s 04:30 chris so you could go 04:30 chris !:p is the same as author:p 04:30 chris they are different types of indexes 04:30 paul and !:p 04:30 paul I also see the !:w 04:29 chris ahh i knew this 04:29 paul author, author:p, author:s ? 04:29 paul melm 200$f author,author:p,author:s 04:29 paul what means : 04:29 chris i can try, im not sure i fully understand it either ... yeah i find their documentation quite hard to read 04:28 btoumi i take a ticket to speak about fines chris: just after paul ;=) 04:28 chris ive had a shower 04:28 paul and the indexdata doc is unclear to me 04:28 paul I'm not sure to understand well the record.abs file syntax. 04:27 paul chris : do you have 5mn to speak of zebra things, or do you need a shower asap ? 04:27 btoumi lol 04:26 chris a draw 04:26 chris bruno: no .. it was 2 - 2 04:26 chris then koha marks it lost=2 04:26 chris at HLT and a few other libraries, after a certain time that a book is overdue, perhaps 4 weeks or 6 weeks 04:25 btoumi hi chris do u win? 04:25 paul do you have 5mn to speak of zebra things, or do you need a shower asap ? 04:25 btoumi ok thanks 04:25 chris 2 = lost, marked lost by koha 04:25 chris 1 = lost, marked lost by the librarian 04:25 paul hello chris. 04:25 chris 1 and 2 are lost 04:25 chris paul is right 04:25 chris sorry bruno i was playing volleyball 04:25 chris hi all 04:17 btoumi t y for u answer 04:17 btoumi i think like that but i don 't now why u have 2 value ,u must test only >0 not 1 or 2 04:15 paul my bet is that =0 => item not lost. >=0 => item lost 04:14 btoumi itemlost ne 2 and itemlost ne 1 04:14 btoumi u have test on this value and test is like this if itemlost=2 && itemlost=1 04:13 btoumi because in fines2.pl 04:12 paul they can be defined in an authorised_value list. So there is no limit 04:12 btoumi do u now the different possible value for itemlost ? 04:11 btoumi just one question 04:11 paul yep 04:11 btoumi paul: are u around ? 03:32 btoumi for the moment 03:31 btoumi i think that chris is not here 03:30 btoumi i just see ice in my glass 03:29 btoumi lol 03:29 paul quite cold in Marseille today. Some snow expected in the next hours 03:29 paul yes, of course 03:29 btoumi paul : do u work with ur pull over ;=) 03:22 btoumi :=) 03:22 btoumi thank u 03:22 paul I did it for you then ;-) 03:21 btoumi no 03:21 paul did you "beep" him ? 03:20 btoumi now i wait for chris i hope i see him this morning for my works on fine 03:19 btoumi i begin the 28 july => 21 august 03:18 btoumi like me 03:18 paul don't forget my holidays will be august 7 => 23 03:18 btoumi i try the url that u give me 03:18 btoumi when i will finish i work on zebra 03:17 btoumi there is a lot of works 03:17 btoumi now because i work on fines now 03:16 paul did you tried dev_week ? 03:16 btoumi me zebra works but only on konsole not in koha interface 03:15 btoumi ok 03:15 paul 120 lines to modify 03:15 btoumi i follow ur discussion with joshua about that 03:15 paul I will change this to melm 200 author 03:15 paul melm 100 author 03:15 paul the record.abs file says for marc21 : 03:15 btoumi ok 03:14 paul to 'map' bib1 attset to unimarc fields. 03:14 paul it will work soon : just 1 file to modify ;-) 03:14 btoumi and zebra works with unimarc? 03:14 paul (still no internet at my office, still working on my laptop, at ToinS home...) 03:13 btoumi ok 03:13 dewey http://zoomopac.liblime.com/ is working now wher do i look 03:13 paul http://zoomopac.liblime.com/ 03:13 paul it's this one : 03:13 paul nope, on dev_week 03:13 btoumi not on head 03:13 paul yep. 03:13 btoumi u search with koha interface? 03:13 paul ) 03:12 paul (I mean querying with yaz-client give me 7 results, querying through Koha gives me 0 03:12 paul (but still get no results, even i I should have 7) 03:12 btoumi lol kool 03:11 paul hello bruno 03:11 btoumi HI PAUL 02:58 paul hello world 02:34 btoumi t'aurais pas vu passer chris ? :=) 02:33 btoumi ca va bien apre sun long week end 02:32 ToinS et toi ? 02:32 ToinS ca va 02:32 ToinS yep 02:32 btoumi salut toins ca va? 02:31 ToinS salut bruno 02:22 btoumi chris: are u around 02:21 btoumi hi all!!!! 02:21 ToinS hi all 15:57 chris in fact i would have been hugely suprised if you got 2.3 to go... but knowing the things that broke .. will help us make a 2.3.1 that might actually be installable :-) 15:56 chris i dont think that will work either :) 15:56 chris right 15:55 czokie I am thinking of doing a 2.2 db install, updatedatabase 2.2, updatedatabase 2.3 to see if it gets me going, but that can wait for a bit ...(Work work work) 15:55 chris i wont be working on it this week, but joshua and others might be 15:55 chris if you could right it up in an email that would be great 15:54 czokie That may be what broke other things .... 15:54 chris weird, i guess something went wrong in the merge from 2.2 15:54 czokie To fix, I extracted 2.2 script, ran it, and then re-ran 2.3 script. 15:53 czokie There is a lot of parameters table data missing from 2.3 version 15:53 czokie I had a look at the values in the script. 15:53 chris hmm interesting, because its the same script that runs in 2.2 15:53 czokie also - am having problems creating borrowers or bib entries in 2.3 .... Not sure of the problem yet - will look over the next few days. 15:52 czokie for new installs - would probably work for a 2.2 -> 2.3 upgrade ... but not for a fresh install 15:51 czokie chris - updatedatabase in 2.3 does not create all required preferences fields..... 15:45 chris morning 15:45 russ morning all