Time Nick Message 16:27 tumer kados are you awake? 16:43 kados thd: yep 16:43 kados thd: I'm working on refining the Zebra install process 16:43 kados thd: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=installingzebraplugin226 16:49 kados thd: what's up? 17:31 Burgundavia hmm, dead today 18:50 thd kados: were you asking for me or tumer? 02:05 ToinS hi all 03:55 hdl hello 04:03 ToinS salut hdl 04:04 hdl hello Toins Comment ? 04:04 ToinS ca va 04:05 ToinS j'ai une erreur quand je tente de commiter 04:06 ToinS j'ai => cvs commit: sticky tag 'HEAD' for file 'C4/...' is not a branch 04:28 alaurin bonjour a tous ..... 04:29 alaurin petite question pratique, je suis en train de faire une interface qui fais appel à des images en gif : mais sur la version HEAD, je n'ai pas de dossier "/images" 04:29 alaurin dois-je le recréer ?????????????? 04:34 ToinS moi je dirai oui ... 04:47 alaurin ok, merci, je vais la faire, au pire, on pourra toujours l'enlever aprés ..... 06:58 kados tumer: morning 06:58 kados tumer: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=installingzebraplugin226 06:59 kados tumer: I'm about to walk through that document step by step and identify whether it's accurate (on a completely new server0 07:00 tumer morning kados, good like in the mean time i'll read the doc. 10:12 kados ToinS: you around? 10:12 ToinS yep 10:12 kados ToinS: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=installingzebraplugin226 10:12 kados ToinS: you may find that useful if you want to work on zebra-related stuff for UNIMARC 10:13 ToinS ok great 10:21 thd ToinS: where has paul gone and when will he return? 10:23 ToinS thd: paul is moving in his new house... 10:23 ToinS i don't know when he will return 10:23 thd ToinS: yes, I remember now 10:24 ToinS may be tomorow 10:24 ToinS on afternoon 10:25 thd ToinS: do you know anything about the invitation he had to write a paper about the Koha development process? 10:25 thd s/the/his/ 10:25 ToinS i think he is not interresting by this invitation 10:26 ToinS but not sure 10:26 thd ToinS: I understand that he was not very interested but do you know anything more about it? 10:27 ToinS i just know that it's for a magazine called "programmation sous linux" (linux programming) 10:28 ToinS and he has to write 12 pages about koha in general 10:29 thd ToinS: this is a popular periodical or an academic journal? 10:29 ToinS paul says no 10:30 ToinS it's a little unknown magazine ! 10:31 thd ToinS: that is what I was interested in knowing. I wanted to know if finding someone else to write the article would be better for the prestige of Koha. 10:32 tumer kados:how did install go? 10:32 kados tumer: still working on it :-) 10:32 thd ToinS: If it is an unknown magazine, it is not likely to have a noticeable effect. 10:33 kados tumer: wrote some scripts to automate it and such 10:33 ToinS right 10:33 tumer ++ 10:33 ToinS thd: here is the website of the magazine : http://www.proglinux.fr/ 10:33 kados tumer: I think the main thing that remains for dev-week is cleanup of the npl templates 10:33 ToinS avaibale in french & german :-/ 10:33 kados tumer: and I propose that Owen does that :-) 10:33 tumer clean-up? 10:33 kados well ... change to use the new search, etc. 10:34 kados copy the search to intranet 10:34 tumer oh yes and by the way addbiblio.tmpl should removw those question marks now that dont work 10:34 kados tumer: btw: did you see the new faceted search results demo? 10:35 tumer i did not check today 10:35 kados do any search 10:35 thd kados: what is new? 10:35 kados and pay attention to the left-hand of the screen 10:35 kados thd: nothing new yet 10:35 kados thd: I just didn't remember if tumer had seen it 10:36 kados tumer: my guess is that it's a 'must have' feature for your libraries ;-) 10:37 tumer kados:you seem to talk with ID quite often. Canyou ask how do i search 2 zebra databases at the same time for biblionumbers? 10:37 tumer how to configure that? 10:37 thd more must have features for libraries: http://web.archive.org/web/20040707180111/http://slc.bc.ca/opacdisp.pdf 10:38 kados tumer: use the asynchronous mode for searching 2 dbs 10:38 kados tumer: hang on I've got a code snip I wrote 10:39 tumer kados: i need something better than async 10:39 tumer something like JOIN we use in SQL 10:40 thd tumer: what is wrong with async that requires something better? 10:40 tumer well may be i did not understand this async well enough 10:41 kados tumer: http://koha.liblime.com/zoom_async.pl 10:41 kados tumer: ahh ... you mean 'merged result sets' 10:41 kados tumer: can't do that in zebra yet 10:41 tumer btw:this subject thesaurus is very nice how did you get that? 10:42 thd tumer: what does JOIN allow that async does not provide adequately? 10:42 kados tumer: but we could do it with the new ID metasearch proxy 10:42 kados tumer: very simple to do :-) 10:42 kados tumer: just done in perl :-) 10:42 kados tumer: soon as it works the way I want (with categories) I"ll commit it 10:43 tumer and this ID metasearch proxy? I thought i cracked zebra it is it vice versa? 10:43 thd kados: look at the examples in the link I provided just now above 10:43 kados tumer: the new metasearch proxy hasn't been released 10:44 kados feel free to ping support@ id and ask your question ... but please cc me 10:44 kados thd: I will when I have time :-) 10:44 kados thd: first step is to finalize what already works :-) 10:44 thd kados: much of them can be done even without actual authorities 10:44 kados thd: before my clients have a conniption 10:45 thd kados: what is a conniption? 10:45 kados tumer: quick question 10:45 kados thd: A fit of violent emotion, such as anger or panic. 10:45 kados tumer: is the authorities stuff working in dev-week? 10:46 tumer kados: authorities i believe is broken everywhere with this new templates 10:46 thd what authorities stuff? 10:46 kados tumer: but besides the searching, does zebra store authorities, etc.? 10:47 kados tumer: I assume we can easily add the authorities search ... but what I'm wondering about it is authorities management 10:47 tumer kados:zebra side of authorities does work, searching stroring etc 10:47 kados ahh 10:47 kados what would it take to fix it? 10:48 tumer i have been trying i couldn't 10:48 tumer i asked hdl to check it 10:48 tumer its the general concept of authorities that getting broken somewhere 10:49 thd kados: storing, and searching. Is that what you meant by the authorities stuff? 10:49 kados thd: yep :-) 10:50 tumer with these new cloned subfields and everything authorities do not get transfered to biblio template correctly 10:51 tumer kados: is it possible for you to have 2 accented characters on your serach result template. That way i can test whether your system works or not 10:51 thd kados: I think the problem that tumer is identifying is the fact that working MARC editor code has not been committed to the authorities editor or fully to any editor, 10:52 kados tumer: how would I do that? 10:52 tumer also you will be able to se any funny doings wich you are missing with all the ASCI characters that you have 10:54 tumer kados:copy any accented character open a template and wrtite TEST:<paste your character> any where there is a label 10:54 kados tumer: I already imported turkish records 10:54 thd tumer: do 2 accented characters exhibit different behaviour from one accented character? 10:54 tumer oh no ! 10:54 tumer so that it does not stay lonely 10:55 tumer kados: if you remember the characters on the template gets broken not the record 10:55 kados right 10:56 tumer kados: the search term was double encoded 10:57 tumer which you missed until i pointed it to you, but whole of my template becomes like that because its in Turkish 10:58 tumer thats why if have an accented character on the template you can always notice the peculiarities going on 10:59 tumer thd:i now reduced it to one character but lonely:-) 11:00 thd tumer: you mean that the effect is the same for multiple characters but more noticeable. 11:00 kados tumer: remind me of a term I can search on 11:01 kados tumer: to pull up accented chars :-) 11:01 tumer yasa 11:03 tumer i have to go to dinner now. I'll check late in the evening.See you all 11:07 kados too bad, I just fixed it :-) 11:07 kados for future ref 11:07 kados add: 11:07 kados use Encode; 11:07 kados my $ccl_query = decode utf8 => $query->param('ccl_query'); 11:08 kados thd: is it working correctly for you on zoomopac? 11:10 kados hmmm ... 11:10 kados not entirely it seems 11:11 kados but it might be OSX 11:11 kados the special O in Orneklerle is working 11:11 kados but the s with the tail isn't 11:11 thd kados: it is just the same for me as previously 11:12 kados weird 11:13 thd kados: I was using power search, not CQL 11:13 thd a/CQL/CCL/ 11:15 thd kados: the special 'O' did not even work for me searching for the title use attribute with power search 11:17 thd s/work/work to display the query string correctly in the results page/ 11:20 kados ahh 11:20 kados thd: I only fixed for the CCL Simpleton search :-) 11:22 thd kados: I thought that I had understood that from your code posting but maybe that was only an example of what to do for everything similar 11:26 thd kados: the problem seems to be fixed for the simpleton search except that I see the wrong character in the search string reported on the result set page. Maybe that is the X-windows font problem. Does the 'O' in the query string and the result really look identical to you? 11:28 kados thd: yes 11:28 kados thd: but the s is corrupted, though that maybe the fault of OSX 11:28 thd kados: my query string 'O' looks more like an O with an umlaut than a transposed Q in the record 11:28 kados i wonder what happens if we entity encode them 11:29 thd kados: look carefully and see if the 'O' does not match my description. 11:32 thd kados: in my experience, Safari had significant problems displaying font information correctly 11:33 thd kados: and I include even with just ASCII characters being inappropriately all bold or all capital.