Time  Nick           Message
12:39 shantanoo      hi!
12:40 shantanoo      need little help with apache config
12:40 shantanoo      Forbidden
12:40 shantanoo      You don't have permission to access / on this server.
12:41 shantanoo      using apache 2.2
12:42 shantanoo      :(
16:00 pate-away      kados, you about?
19:49 owen           chris around by any chance?
19:50 chris          yep whats up owen?
19:50 owen           I have a question for a Perl expert
19:51 chris          heh
19:51 chris          ill do my best
19:51 owen           In opac-addbookbybiblionumber.pl a CGI::scrolling_list gets built of existing shelves
19:52 owen           But really it should build the CGI::scrolling_list only if there are items to go in it, i.e. existing virtual shelves
19:52 chris          ok
19:53 chris          this in rel_2_2 ?
19:53 owen           Yes
19:53 owen           Around line 60
19:54 chris          right i see
19:55 chris          so if tehre are no shelves there is no point outputing an item dropdown list
19:56 chris          heres what id do
19:56 chris          id change this line
19:56 chris          my $CGIbookshelves=CGI::scrolling_list( -name     => 'shelfnumber',
19:56 chris          to
19:56 chris          $CGIbookshelves=CGI::scrolling_list( -name     => 'shelfnumber',
19:56 chris          and before it
19:56 chris          my $CGIbookshelves;
19:57 chris          if (#@shelvesloop > 0){
19:58 chris          then do the $CGIbookshelves=CGI::scrolling_list( -name     => 'shelfnumber',
19:58 chris          etc
19:58 chris          }
19:58 chris          ie, if there is at least one element in the array, make the dropdown
19:58 chris          otherwise it will just be empty so it wont get printed
19:58 chris          does that make sense
19:58 chris          ?
19:59 chris          i can make the changes and commit if you like and you can give it a test
20:07 owen           Sorry--got interrupted.  I'm testing it now, and it looks like it works great!
20:07 owen           Thanks for your help.  I'm going to be making some other commits anyway, so I'll take care of it.
20:08 chris          sweet
20:08 owen           When do you guys leave for France?
20:08 chris          the 30th nz time
20:08 chris          so the 29th for you
20:09 owen           I sure wish I could be there.  I hope you guys have a blast.
20:10 chris          thanks
02:06 btoumi         high everybody
02:07 btoumi         hi everybody
02:07 pierrick_      hi btoumi
02:23 btoumi         hi pierrick
05:35 hdl            hi
05:43 pierrick       hi hdl
05:43 hdl            hi pierrick.
06:47 paul           hello world, i'm back
06:47 paul           btoumi: are u around ?
07:02 paul           cvs -q update -P -d
07:27 hdl            paul ?
07:37 btoumi         hello hdl
07:38 hdl            hello btoumi
07:51 hdl            hi owen
07:51 owen           Hi
07:55 owen           Quiet around here lately :)
07:55 pierrick_lunch hi owen
07:56 hdl            owen: was it ? :)
07:57 hdl            Paul was away, kados also, ... I was working without irc.....
07:57 hdl            owen: Do you use some multi hierarchical thesaurus ?
07:58 hdl            Do you know some ?
07:58 owen           No
07:58 owen           I'm not even sure what it is
08:35 paul           merchi pierrick, et bonjour ;-)
08:35 pierrick       bonjour paul, de rien
09:59 kados          bonjour a tous
09:59 owen           Hey kados
10:01 paul           hello the "frenchie/swiss guy" ;-)
10:04 paul           just to let everybody know :
10:04 paul           * 75 registrations for May 2nd
10:04 paul           * 45 for may 3rd
10:07 kados          w00t
10:07 kados          paul: so I have started compiling a outline for my talk at KohaCon
10:07 kados          paul: is it OK to just have a two or three page outline?
10:07 kados          paul: or is it expected to have a fancy brochure? :-)
10:08 paul           you just have to remember that most ppl will speak french poorly.
10:08 paul           so it's better to have a good outline.
10:09 paul           to help them understanding what you're speaking of.
10:09 paul           even if we will translate, of course
10:11 owen           kados: do you have time to talk opac detail screens?
10:11 kados          sure
10:11 owen           So basically the problem is: how do you coordinate the bibliodefaultview preference with possible settings that would hide other detail screens
10:12 kados          right
10:12 owen           I don't know that we can assume the system is set up properly :)
10:12 kados          what would really be cool
10:12 kados          is a method where the librarian could pick which elements on a given page
10:12 kados          are visible
10:12 kados          using checkboxes
10:12 kados          or something
10:13 kados          does that make sense?
10:13 owen           Yeah
10:13 kados          so then the next question is how do we acomplish that? :-)
10:14 owen           One column of checkboxes and one column of radio buttons
10:14 kados          y'know ...
10:14 owen           The checkboxes are for which are visible, the radio button is for which is default
10:14 kados          take that one step further
10:14 kados          so they can customize the text for each
10:14 kados          so if they want 'SEARCH' or "SEARCH CIRC", etc.
10:15 kados          one thing I'm not sure of is what that would do to performance
10:16 owen           Does each system preference affect performance a certain amount?
10:16 kados          I've no idea
10:16 kados          paul: do you know?
10:18 paul           kados & owen : for sure it affect perfs. The question being : a lot or a little. I don't know, but i would be cautious with such improvements.
10:18 kados          yep, perhaps we need to do some tests
10:18 paul           we might reach a perf problem + a stability/maintainancy problem.
10:18 kados          right
10:21 kados          owen: so I'll give it some further thought
10:21 kados          owen: perhaps we can introduce a new feature that will somehow be cached for sure and won't affect performance
10:21 kados          owen: rather than rely on the current system preferences
10:22 owen           So hold off on any show/hide preferences for opac detail views for now?
10:22 kados          yea, I'd say so
10:22 owen           Okay
10:24 tumer          hi all
10:24 kados          hey tumer
10:25 tumer          kados:hi, settled down at some city now?
10:25 kados          tumer: heh, not yet, finished the WIPO training today
10:26 kados          tumer: I leave for Laussane in a few minutes
10:26 tumer          kados:lucky you:)
10:26 kados          tumer: tomorrow I may travel all day
10:26 kados          tumer: but Saturday and Sunday I should have all day to work :-)
10:26 kados          Monday too it hink
10:26 kados          thingk even
10:27 tumer          So will I on sunday
10:27 kados          tumer: one question, the files you sent me include the Koha installation
10:27 tumer          ???
10:27 kados          tumer: but how can I create the bib database for that system?
10:27 tumer          you don't need to. That should work with standart 2.2 system
10:28 kados          and I can update Zebra how?
10:28 tumer          I thought you had zebra updating. I merely send the search processess
10:28 kados          ahh
10:29 kados          yes, I can get Zebra wrking
10:29 kados          but in my method, data is usually deleted from Koha tables
10:29 kados          marc-* tables I mean
10:29 paul           kados: where will you be this week end ?
10:29 kados          paul: Paris of course ;-)
10:30 tumer          Dont worry I'll send you necessary files once you start workng on it
10:30 kados          tumer: ok, sounds great
10:30 kados          thx
10:30 kados          paul: in fact, on Saturday I will start in Laussane
10:30 kados          paul: and will travel to Paris in the late afternoon
10:31 kados          paul: on Sunday, Paris is closed ...
10:31 kados          paul: Monday too unless I'm mistaken
10:31 kados          paul: so I hope I can find a good wifi cafe or hang out in a train station all day to work ;-)
10:36 kados          so mambo?
10:36 kados          or opencms maybe?
10:36 kados          (I recently heard from someone here that opencms is quite nice)
10:37 kados          huh, the admindb seems unaccessible for the mailman install
10:37 kados          woops
10:38 kados          wrong channel for all of the above :-)
10:46 paul           kados: "paris is closed" = what do you mean ? it's a closed day, for sure, but many cafe or places are open in Paris !
10:47 hdl            even some marketplaces :D
10:47 kados          paul: good news :-)
10:47 kados          monospace?
10:47 paul           a car for 7-9 ppl
10:47 hdl            a big car
10:47 kados          ahh
10:47 kados          maybe just take the busses?
10:47 paul           because we will be more than 15 and 3 cars won't be enough
10:47 kados          or a train?
10:48 paul           except we can't reach SAN-OP with busses or train.
10:48 kados          ahh
10:48 kados          too bad
10:49 tumer          and I am not even able to stay at the same hotel as you lot. All booked
10:49 kados          wow
10:50 paul           tumer: wait a minut
10:59 pierrick       paul, are devWeek evenings planned?
11:00 pierrick       I mean, do you know when afters will occur?
11:01 paul           hélas, not yet.
11:01 paul           I asked SAN twice, but got no answers from them :-(
11:01 pierrick       I want to tell my friends in Marseille when I'll be available. I'll also ask if I can borrow a car
11:01 paul           you'll ask ineo ?
11:01 paul           I tried to phone jps & flc but they are away
11:01 pierrick       no, my friends in Marseille
11:02 pierrick       you want me to ask if I can reserv a car?
11:02 pierrick       s/reserve/rent
11:02 paul           what's your phone (fixe, my portable is out of power)
11:02 paul           bye kados
11:05 kados          hey pate-away
11:05 pate-away      hiya
11:05 pate-away      is anyone taking good notes at KohaCon?
11:05 kados          pate-away: anything you need to ask me before I jet?
11:06 pate-away      well, I'm looking for data from KohaCon so I can plug it into my writing plans
11:06 kados          ahh, right
11:06 pate-away      you can jet ... nothing I have is urgent
11:06 kados          so I think much of the con will be available via a video feed
11:06 pate-away      I'll try to jump on early tomorrow and see I I can catch people
11:07 kados          tomorrow's a vacation day :-)
11:07 kados          ok, I gotta catch a train
11:07 kados          ciao
11:07 pate-away      tchuss
11:25 hdl            hi pate-away
11:26 hdl            you also have some information on wiki.koha.org