Time Nick Message 05:41 _hdl_ hello world 05:09 osmoze hello world :) 00:31 audrey great 00:30 chris could well be, when the daily cash reports are all working properly (we are pretty close) then ill commit them, and they can come it either 2.2.6 or in 3.0 .. and that oughta fix his problem 00:28 audrey What do you think? 00:28 audrey Chris, back to the question from the Indian engineer. Jo thought that the second part of his question "I also need the transaction details for the specific period of time as this is important from the audit point of view." is actually about cash reports because of "audits". Which would make yesterday's fix relevant to him, maybe in a sideways manner. 00:20 chris ok, ill leave you to it, and ill get back to work 00:20 chris i sat next to a girl from kent on the bus to cleveland 00:20 audrey Thanks. Jo and I will be talking koha presently so I will be a bit occupied 00:20 chris ohhh Kent, ive heard of that university 00:19 chris cool, ill forward her latest email to the first one 00:19 audrey I have two email addresses, which I am using now and back home--ahurley1@kent.edu and booksreference@yahoo.com 00:18 chris do you have an email address there? I can forward you the latest email .. maybe you could make contact when you get back ? 00:17 chris im not sure if they used Koha in the end but I had quite a long email conversation with her 00:17 audrey WOW 00:17 chris Jennifer Wilms, Librarian, Cleveland Museum of Natural History 00:17 audrey I've never been to the rock and roll hall of fame but would like to go 00:16 audrey I got to drive through the area frequently during a recent internship 00:16 chris i went to an NFL game .. and the rock and roll hall of fame when I was there, and got lost on a bus somewhere too 00:15 audrey many museums circle the university circle area 00:14 audrey that would be quite cool. 00:14 chris but ill check that 00:14 chris i want to say the natural history museum 00:14 chris there is a museum in Cleveland that was using Koha .. not sure if they still are 00:14 chris cool 00:14 audrey Cleveland is closest 00:14 audrey but my brother Nathaniel has gone to university in Athens at Ohio University 00:13 chris i havent visited any of those places ... ive been to Athens, Columbus, Cleveland and Toledo 00:13 audrey Athens is about 3-4 hours (not sure about the miles) away 00:13 chris ahh 00:13 audrey I am from Alliance and Newton Falls and Akron Ohio; it all depends on when in my life we are talking about. 00:12 chris kados (joshua) is in Athens Ohio 00:12 chris off topic audrey .. whereabouts in Ohio are you from? 00:09 chris its the same question repeatedly asked that gets annoying :-) 00:09 chris questions are fine :) 00:08 audrey That's good. I am new to reading the bugzilla and the archives log. Hopefully I will not have too many questions :) 00:07 chris so it should get fixed soon 00:07 chris but we have a bug lodged from rangitikei library about the circulation report 00:07 audrey Well, that is good to know. 00:07 audrey ah, yes. 00:07 chris circulation report is a different report, the daily til report i was fixing for jo, isnt in the main koha bit yet 00:06 audrey because he uses a different version? 00:06 audrey the url I am looking under is "http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.koha" 00:06 chris i think its probably different 00:06 chris ahh i was on holiday 00:06 audrey The question is labeled "Problem with circulation report of Koha" from 19 December 2005 at 11:37 00:05 chris got a url of the message? 00:05 chris who/what/where? 00:04 audrey Priyanka Mishra, who wrote a question now located in the archives--His question was never followed up on, as far as I can tell from the archives. 00:03 audrey Chris, hi. the fixes that you were doing with Jo yesterday on the daily cash report appear to be related to a question from an engineer in India-- 22:21 thd kados: I forgot to ask this morning about the apparent lack of provision for indicators in opencataloger. Their absence .was immediately obvious but had there been a plan for treating them in a special manner? 21:57 russ righto - it hasnt come through yet - i'll see what i can do 21:56 thd russ: If you had time to give any reply tonight it would be very helpful to me. Thanks. 21:55 russ righto 21:54 thd russ: I just sent you an email 21:43 amanda Jose? 21:05 amanda irc1.katipo.co.nz:6667 21:04 amanda Jose, do you want to join us in the Katipo Lobby? 21:03 amanda Jose, are you around? 21:02 amanda hello 19:16 thd OK, thanks chris 19:15 chris yep, he's the man to ask, drop him an email 19:14 thd chris: so I should ask russ about what charge might be possible to suggest in case this person wanted a fallback in 2.X? Should I also ask russ about your schedule for working on acquisitions in 3.0? 19:10 chris you'd have to talk to russ about that, he schedules my time .. 3.0 will have a working full acquisitions (budgets and bookfunds) tho .. 2.x not likely 19:09 thd chris: hello, now that might New Jersey court troubles are over, I need to make a claim in a formal proposal,, about normal acquisitions in Koha 3.0. How confident are you about having a sufficiently abstracted version working in 3.0. Independently, what might you charge to have a US hard coded shortcut as opposed to a NZ hard coded shortcut for 2.X? 18:55 chris :-) 18:55 audrey thanks from Audrey and Rosalie 18:53 chris the second one is searchable 18:53 chris or http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.koha 18:52 chris http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/ 18:52 audrey Is that the address in the topic line? 18:52 audrey yes. 18:52 chris the mailing list archive? 18:51 audrey what's the url for the koha archive? 18:51 audrey hi chris 18:51 chris hi audrey 17:58 thd kados: definitely not optimal for Koha as compared to cooperating teams where everyone ought to have had working code even if some parts would be less complete than others there would be more parts or more debugging. People often do better competing against themselves than competing against others. 17:54 thd kados: only one of which was successful in producing working code? :) 17:54 kados but it's one of the professor's requirements 17:54 kados unfortunately not optimal for us 17:54 kados thd: competing teams within one class ... separate codebases 17:45 thd kados: what is the relationship between team42 and teamIPG? 17:26 thd kados: searching for Ohio helped http://sourceforge.net/projects/ouoss 15:28 thd kados: Oh yes, I forgot about the promise of solving all problems and remaking the world in 10 days :) 15:24 kados ID is very responsive 15:24 kados I'm sure they'll get it out in short order 15:21 thd s/know/no/ :) 15:20 thd kados: paul had know sense of how long until Yaz 2.1.11 yet if it is not merely a few days it is likely to delay the projected time for a Koha 3.0 release. 15:14 thd kados: a one quarter class or one trimester? 15:14 kados spring I think 15:13 thd ? 15:13 thd kados: Is the next class in the summer 15:13 kados :-) 15:13 kados just bought it yesterday 15:13 kados prolly hasn't propogated yet 15:13 thd kados: I found no whois record for opencataloger.org 15:12 kados don't have a url ... sorry 15:12 kados for all of CSS 456's projects thusfar 15:12 kados it's a class sourceforge project 15:12 kados nope 15:12 thd kados: under the name opencataloger? 15:11 kados CSS 456 or something 15:11 kados :-) 15:11 kados thd: it should be on sourceforge somewhere 15:11 thd kados: where can I see the rest of the code? 15:11 kados thd: for our project? not that I know of 15:09 shaun kados: sorry, I timed this badly - I'll send back an email or talk tomorrow. 15:09 thd kados: was code from the University of Arizona used? 15:08 kados yep, me and the prof 15:08 thd kados: so you and the instructor are the ones providing continuity for perfectly understanding the code. It did not seem hard to follow but seemed a little short of comments. Yet, I cannot see all the code. 15:07 kados http://dlist.sir.arizona.edu/900/01/MARC2XMLjs.html 15:07 kados here's some javascript MARC libraries: 15:06 kados the class doesn't start for a few months 15:06 kados might start fresh with XUL 15:06 kados not sure if they will be debugging or not 15:05 kados all new people, yes 15:03 thd kados: Is the current class with all new people working toward debugging extending the team 42 work with all new people? 15:01 kados I'd have to look to be sure, but probably 15:00 thd kados: and that is called from main.js (not having the code in front of me now)? 14:59 kados I think ideally, the way to go with this is XUL for the next class 14:59 kados that grabs the XML from the server 14:59 kados there's an XMLHttpRequest 14:58 thd kados: I mean that something I can see must be calling the server side script. I examined main.js and the xsl files. I did not look at the JavaScript library files but I assumed they would be just standard for the JavaScript library used. 14:56 kados thd: because it's server-side :-) 14:56 kados thd: it's in the server-side script that you can't see 14:55 kados then, all we need is a client-side (javascript) MARC library :-) 14:55 thd kados: Where is the call to the server for the present implementation? 14:55 kados but the goal is to do a client-side srw/sru query (using POST) 14:54 kados that's actually server-side at the moment 14:54 thd kados: I guessed that but failed to notice where that was being set. How is it set? 14:54 kados but eventually, it'll be selectable 14:53 kados it's NPL's catalog :-) 14:53 thd kados: I could not determine how opencataloger sets the Z39.50 search target. What database is being searched in the demo? 14:53 kados yea it's a fun bit of code 14:52 kados hehe 14:51 thd kados: I was having so much fun looking at opencataloger that I could no longer stay sufficiently awake enough to write it at 4 AM. 14:47 kados thd: missed your email last night :-) 14:47 kados shaun: I"m here 14:24 thd kados: I am awake again. Are you there? 14:19 paul bye & read you later 14:18 paul and I leave now ;-) 14:18 paul was here 1 hour ago. 14:18 paul hello shaun. 14:18 shaun Hey all - kados around? 13:17 kados nope 13:16 kados maybe in 'customize'? 13:16 kados no ... not offhand 13:16 kados ahh 13:16 kados uncheck the unwanted ones 13:16 paul I mean another way that hiding/showing the toolbar : having it minimal/maximal) 13:15 kados yep ... view->toolbars :-) 13:14 paul (webdev, cobrowse...) 13:14 paul i have 30% of the top of the screen used by toolbars 13:14 paul do you know a way to reorganize firefox to avoid so many toolbars ? 13:13 kados hehe 13:13 paul yep. 13:12 kados pretty neat eh? 13:12 paul seeing now ! 13:12 kados how about now? 13:12 paul done, but seing nothing for instance 13:11 kados yes, you need it 13:11 paul so I need the plugin or not ? 13:11 kados anyone else can try it too 13:10 kados and click on 'connect' 13:10 kados then, put this into your 'CoBrowse Server' bar: 70.106.186.214 13:10 kados after installing, restart firefox 13:10 paul (the plugin I mean) 13:10 kados no 13:10 paul (I need it too or no ?) 13:10 kados let me give you my ip 13:09 kados I've tried it ... works well 13:09 paul we give it a try now kados ? 13:09 paul wow, it's really great plugin it seems ! 13:09 kados might be nice for conference calls and webinars 13:08 kados it's called 'CoBrowse' 13:08 kados https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&category=Entertainment&numpg=10&id=1469 13:06 kados hehe 13:06 paul katipo is as well... seems i'm the only one that isn't for instance... 13:06 kados yep 13:05 paul you mean you're one of the sub-contractors ? 13:05 kados hehe 13:05 owen ...succumbed to the wife-in-Athens-never-moving. But also to the charms of Liblime ;) 13:04 kados thanks :-) 12:58 owen So far so good :) 12:58 paul ... for the best happiness I hope ;-) 12:55 kados hehe 12:55 paul be quick, or you'll find a wife in Athens and never move :-D 12:54 kados but I don't have any plans yet :-) 12:54 kados being closer to an airport would be nice 12:54 kados yea, it's definitely something I've thought about 12:54 paul no plans to move ? because Athens is quite far from airport, and US is business area is large if I don't mind 12:53 kados yes still in athens 12:53 kados not 1st actually ... in fact, latest :-) 12:53 paul but still living in Athens anyway ? 12:53 paul and NPL is your 1st contract iirc 12:53 kados ahh 12:52 paul I remember you told me that already 12:52 paul (but it's free for a boss ;-) ) 12:52 kados not NPL anymore 12:52 kados s/a/as/ 12:52 kados a of today, I'm only an employee of liblime 12:52 paul nobody can work more than 48H/week as employee. 12:52 kados right :-) 12:52 paul hehe.. typically US behaviour : in France, you can't legally have a full time job + another one. 12:51 kados they work part-time for liblime 12:51 kados Ryan and Tina have other full-time jobs 12:51 kados (yes) 12:51 kados she's still a student 12:51 paul (tina & sara : name for woman, isn't it ? while Ryan if for a man ?) 12:51 kados sara is our 'junior tech' 12:51 kados not much 12:50 paul neither write on koha-devel or somewhere else if I don't mind 12:50 kados but they don't irc on #koha very much 12:50 kados Tina and Sara are the others 12:49 kados Ryan is one 12:49 kados hehe 12:49 kados not well known no 12:49 paul I want NAMES :-) 12:49 kados yep 12:49 paul are the other 4 known in the Koha project ? 12:49 paul ? 12:49 paul you're 25% x4 12:49 kados hehe 12:48 kados (but I could be voted down :-)) 12:48 kados which is the way I'd like to keep it 12:48 kados it's 'privately held' ... so noone but the four of us owns shares in the company 12:48 kados hehe 12:48 paul when do you plan to be introduced in NASDAQ ? 12:47 kados and very modest paychecks :-) 12:47 kados well ... only four of everything :-) 12:47 paul :-D 12:47 paul wow. It's a large company... shareholders, directors... 12:47 kados of course I am both ... and so are the other four employees 12:47 kados there are shareholders and a board of directors 12:46 kados well ... it basically means I don't own the business 12:46 kados it's a corporation :-) 12:46 paul "we" have ? 12:46 kados paul: + we're sub-contracting out to three others 12:45 kados paul: well ... we have four employees 12:45 kados where I plan to have a small site where users can submit their firefox plugins, etc. 12:45 paul kados : how many ppl work for liblime (full time I mean) ? 12:45 kados I also purchased kohazilla.org/com 12:44 owen Very nice, kados! 12:43 kados good point 12:43 paul (you should change chat title ;-) ) 12:42 kados http://labs.liblime.com was announced just a sec ago 12:42 paul hi owen 12:42 owen Hi kados 12:42 kados morning owen 12:42 kados hehe 12:40 paul any interesting news aroung opencataloger ? 12:38 kados paul: (one not working yet) 12:38 kados paul: opencataloger demos are there 12:38 kados in case anyone missed it late yesterday, pre-preannouncement for a new site: http://labs.liblime.com/ 12:27 paul (my neveu one too) 12:22 shedges (a very good name -- my son's name) 12:22 shedges ah -- thanks, Paul! 12:08 paul shedges : http://katipo.co.nz/gallery/album162?page=2 => baby name is benjamin 12:01 paul in french we say "l'espoir fait vivre" (=hope keeps you alive) Except when you say this it mean you think "poor guy, you'll never succeed" 12:00 kados hopefully the rest of the conversion will go smoothly 11:59 kados waste of many hours :( 11:59 paul (not your fault kados. but a shame, I agree) 11:59 kados that's a real shame 11:58 kados yikes ... sorry about that paul 11:57 paul (but anyway I don't plan to build a nightly, I prefer official/stable releases) 11:57 paul (and Mike don't remember where I could DL a nightly tarball) 11:56 paul nope. But I bet it will be very soon now ! 11:56 shedges any release date for 2.1.11? 11:56 paul yep. 11:55 paul (the complete mail should arrive at koha-devel & koha-zebra in 3 hours...) 11:55 shedges wow. That must be very discouraging. 11:55 paul so many time lost... 11:54 paul still awaits release. 11:54 paul tiny problem with this plan is that it doesn't yet exist, because it 11:54 paul So before we continue, you need to upgrade to YAZ 2.1.11. The only 11:54 paul linking against doesn't exist, because (IIRC) you're using YAZ 2.1.10. 11:54 paul In other words, it's precisely correct to say that the symbol you're 11:54 paul unfortunately, the problem is : 11:54 paul ok guys (kados, hdl and everybody...) my ZOOM problem is solved. 11:10 paul hi kados 11:05 kados paul++ 11:05 kados hi everyone