Time  Nick    Message
05:41 _hdl_   hello world
05:09 osmoze  hello world :)
00:31 audrey  great
00:30 chris   could well be, when the daily cash reports are all working properly (we are pretty close) then ill commit them, and they can come it either 2.2.6 or in 3.0 .. and that oughta fix his problem
00:28 audrey  What do you think?
00:28 audrey  Chris, back to the question from the Indian engineer. Jo thought that the second part of his question "I also need the transaction details for the specific period of time as this is important from the audit point of view." is actually about cash reports because of "audits".  Which would make yesterday's fix relevant to him, maybe in a sideways manner.
00:20 chris   ok, ill leave you to it, and ill get back to work
00:20 chris   i sat next to a girl from kent on the bus to cleveland
00:20 audrey  Thanks. Jo and I will be talking koha presently so I will be a bit occupied
00:20 chris   ohhh Kent, ive heard of that university
00:19 chris   cool, ill forward her latest email to the first one
00:19 audrey  I have two email addresses, which I am using now and back home--ahurley1@kent.edu and booksreference@yahoo.com
00:18 chris   do you have an email address there? I can forward you the latest email .. maybe you could make contact when you get back ?
00:17 chris   im not sure if they used Koha in the end but I had quite a long email conversation with her
00:17 audrey  WOW
00:17 chris   Jennifer Wilms, Librarian, Cleveland Museum of Natural History
00:17 audrey  I've never been to the rock and roll hall of fame but would like to go
00:16 audrey  I got to drive through the area frequently during a recent internship
00:16 chris   i went to an NFL game .. and the rock and roll hall of fame when I was there, and got lost on a bus somewhere too
00:15 audrey  many museums circle the university circle area
00:14 audrey  that would be quite cool.
00:14 chris   but ill check that
00:14 chris   i want to say the natural history museum
00:14 chris   there is a museum in Cleveland that was using Koha .. not sure if they still are
00:14 chris   cool
00:14 audrey  Cleveland is closest
00:14 audrey  but my brother Nathaniel has gone to university in Athens at Ohio University
00:13 chris   i havent visited any of those places ... ive been to Athens, Columbus, Cleveland and Toledo
00:13 audrey  Athens is about 3-4 hours (not sure about the miles) away
00:13 chris   ahh
00:13 audrey  I am from Alliance and Newton Falls and Akron Ohio; it all depends on when in my life we are talking about.
00:12 chris   kados (joshua) is in Athens Ohio
00:12 chris   off topic audrey .. whereabouts in Ohio are you from?
00:09 chris   its the same question repeatedly asked that gets annoying :-)
00:09 chris   questions are fine :)
00:08 audrey  That's good.  I am new to reading the bugzilla and the archives log.  Hopefully I will not have too many questions :)
00:07 chris   so it should get fixed soon
00:07 chris   but we have a bug lodged from rangitikei library about the circulation report
00:07 audrey  Well, that is good to know.
00:07 audrey  ah, yes.
00:07 chris   circulation report is a different report, the daily til report i was fixing for jo, isnt in the main koha bit yet
00:06 audrey  because he uses a different version?
00:06 audrey  the url I am looking under is "http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.koha"
00:06 chris   i think its probably different
00:06 chris   ahh i was on holiday
00:06 audrey  The question is labeled "Problem with circulation report of Koha" from 19 December 2005 at 11:37
00:05 chris   got a url of the message?
00:05 chris   who/what/where?
00:04 audrey  Priyanka Mishra, who wrote a question now located in the archives--His question was never followed up on, as far as I can tell from the archives.
00:03 audrey  Chris, hi.  the fixes that you were doing with Jo yesterday on the daily cash report appear to be related to a question from an engineer in India--
22:21 thd     kados: I forgot to ask this morning about the apparent lack of provision for indicators in opencataloger.  Their absence .was immediately obvious but had there been a plan for treating them in a special manner?
21:57 russ    righto - it hasnt come through yet - i'll see what i can do
21:56 thd     russ: If you had time to give any reply tonight it would be very helpful to me.  Thanks.
21:55 russ    righto
21:54 thd     russ: I just sent you an email
21:43 amanda  Jose?
21:05 amanda  irc1.katipo.co.nz:6667
21:04 amanda  Jose, do you want to join us in the Katipo Lobby?
21:03 amanda  Jose, are you around?
21:02 amanda  hello
19:16 thd     OK, thanks chris
19:15 chris   yep, he's the man to ask, drop him an email
19:14 thd     chris: so I should ask russ about what charge might be possible to suggest in case this person wanted a fallback in 2.X?  Should I also ask russ about your schedule for working on acquisitions in 3.0?
19:10 chris   you'd have to talk to russ about that, he schedules my time .. 3.0 will have a working full acquisitions (budgets and bookfunds) tho .. 2.x not likely
19:09 thd     chris: hello,  now that might New Jersey court troubles are over, I need to make a claim in a formal proposal,, about normal acquisitions in Koha 3.0.  How confident are you about having a sufficiently abstracted version working in 3.0.  Independently, what might you charge to have a US hard coded shortcut as opposed to a NZ hard coded shortcut for 2.X?
18:55 chris   :-)
18:55 audrey  thanks from Audrey and Rosalie
18:53 chris   the second one is searchable
18:53 chris   or http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.koha
18:52 chris   http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/
18:52 audrey  Is that the address in the topic line?
18:52 audrey  yes.
18:52 chris   the mailing list archive?
18:51 audrey  what's the url for the koha archive?
18:51 audrey  hi chris
18:51 chris   hi audrey
17:58 thd     kados: definitely not optimal for Koha as compared to cooperating teams where everyone ought to have had working code even if some parts would be less complete than others there would be more parts or more debugging.  People often do better competing against themselves than competing against others.
17:54 thd     kados: only one of which was successful in producing working code? :)
17:54 kados   but it's one of the professor's requirements
17:54 kados   unfortunately not optimal for us
17:54 kados   thd: competing teams within one class ... separate codebases
17:45 thd     kados: what is the relationship between team42 and teamIPG?
17:26 thd     kados: searching for Ohio helped http://sourceforge.net/projects/ouoss
15:28 thd     kados: Oh yes, I forgot about the promise of solving all problems and remaking the world in 10 days :)
15:24 kados   ID is very responsive
15:24 kados   I'm sure they'll get it out in short order
15:21 thd     s/know/no/ :)
15:20 thd     kados: paul had know sense of how long until Yaz 2.1.11 yet if it is not merely a few days it is likely to delay the projected time for a Koha 3.0 release.
15:14 thd     kados: a one quarter class or one trimester?
15:14 kados   spring I think
15:13 thd     ?
15:13 thd     kados: Is the next class in the summer
15:13 kados   :-)
15:13 kados   just bought it yesterday
15:13 kados   prolly hasn't propogated yet
15:13 thd     kados: I found no whois record for opencataloger.org
15:12 kados   don't have a url ... sorry
15:12 kados   for all of CSS 456's projects thusfar
15:12 kados   it's a class sourceforge project
15:12 kados   nope
15:12 thd     kados: under the name opencataloger?
15:11 kados   CSS 456 or something
15:11 kados   :-)
15:11 kados   thd: it should be on sourceforge somewhere
15:11 thd     kados: where can I see the rest of the code?
15:11 kados   thd: for our project? not that I know of
15:09 shaun   kados: sorry, I timed this badly - I'll send back an email or talk tomorrow.
15:09 thd     kados: was code from the University of Arizona used?
15:08 kados   yep, me and the prof
15:08 thd     kados: so you and the instructor are the ones providing continuity for perfectly understanding the code.  It did not seem hard to follow but seemed a little short of comments.  Yet, I cannot see all the code.
15:07 kados   http://dlist.sir.arizona.edu/900/01/MARC2XMLjs.html
15:07 kados   here's some javascript MARC libraries:
15:06 kados   the class doesn't start for a few months
15:06 kados   might start fresh with XUL
15:06 kados   not sure if they will be debugging or not
15:05 kados   all new people, yes
15:03 thd     kados: Is the current class with all new people working toward debugging extending the team 42 work with all new people?
15:01 kados   I'd have to look to be sure, but probably
15:00 thd     kados: and that is called from main.js (not having the code in front of me now)?
14:59 kados   I think ideally, the way to go with this is XUL for the next class
14:59 kados   that grabs the XML from the server
14:59 kados   there's an XMLHttpRequest
14:58 thd     kados: I mean that something I can see must be calling the server side script.  I examined main.js and the xsl files.  I did not look at the JavaScript library files but I assumed they would be just standard for the JavaScript library used.
14:56 kados   thd: because it's server-side :-)
14:56 kados   thd: it's in the server-side script that you can't see
14:55 kados   then, all we need is a client-side (javascript) MARC library :-)
14:55 thd     kados: Where is the call to the server for the present implementation?
14:55 kados   but the goal is to do a client-side srw/sru query (using POST)
14:54 kados   that's actually server-side at the moment
14:54 thd     kados: I guessed that but failed to notice where that was being set.  How is it set?
14:54 kados   but eventually, it'll be selectable
14:53 kados   it's NPL's catalog :-)
14:53 thd     kados: I could not determine how opencataloger sets the Z39.50 search target.  What database is being searched in the demo?
14:53 kados   yea it's a fun bit of code
14:52 kados   hehe
14:51 thd     kados: I was having so much fun looking at opencataloger that I could no longer stay sufficiently awake enough to write it at 4 AM.
14:47 kados   thd: missed your email last night :-)
14:47 kados   shaun: I"m here
14:24 thd     kados: I am awake again.  Are you there?
14:19 paul    bye & read you later
14:18 paul    and I leave now ;-)
14:18 paul    was here 1 hour ago.
14:18 paul    hello shaun.
14:18 shaun   Hey all - kados around?
13:17 kados   nope
13:16 kados   maybe in 'customize'?
13:16 kados   no ... not offhand
13:16 kados   ahh
13:16 kados   uncheck the unwanted ones
13:16 paul    I mean another way that hiding/showing the toolbar : having it minimal/maximal)
13:15 kados   yep ... view->toolbars :-)
13:14 paul    (webdev, cobrowse...)
13:14 paul    i have 30% of the top of the screen used by toolbars
13:14 paul    do you know a way to reorganize firefox to avoid so many toolbars ?
13:13 kados   hehe
13:13 paul    yep.
13:12 kados   pretty neat eh?
13:12 paul    seeing now !
13:12 kados   how about now?
13:12 paul    done, but seing nothing for instance
13:11 kados   yes, you need it
13:11 paul    so I need the plugin or not ?
13:11 kados   anyone else can try it too
13:10 kados   and click on 'connect'
13:10 kados   then, put this into your 'CoBrowse Server' bar: 70.106.186.214
13:10 kados   after installing, restart firefox
13:10 paul    (the plugin I mean)
13:10 kados   no
13:10 paul    (I need it too or no ?)
13:10 kados   let me give you my ip
13:09 kados   I've tried it ... works well
13:09 paul    we give it a try now kados ?
13:09 paul    wow, it's really great plugin it seems !
13:09 kados   might be nice for conference calls and webinars
13:08 kados   it's called 'CoBrowse'
13:08 kados   https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&category=Entertainment&numpg=10&id=1469
13:06 kados   hehe
13:06 paul    katipo is as well... seems i'm the only one that isn't for instance...
13:06 kados   yep
13:05 paul    you mean you're one of the sub-contractors ?
13:05 kados   hehe
13:05 owen    ...succumbed to the wife-in-Athens-never-moving. But also to the charms of Liblime ;)
13:04 kados   thanks :-)
12:58 owen    So far so good :)
12:58 paul    ... for the best happiness I hope ;-)
12:55 kados   hehe
12:55 paul    be quick, or you'll find a wife in Athens and never move :-D
12:54 kados   but I don't have any plans yet :-)
12:54 kados   being closer to an airport would be nice
12:54 kados   yea, it's definitely something I've thought about
12:54 paul    no plans to move ? because Athens is quite far from airport, and US is business area is large if I don't mind
12:53 kados   yes still in athens
12:53 kados   not 1st actually ... in fact, latest :-)
12:53 paul    but still living in Athens anyway ?
12:53 paul    and NPL is your 1st contract iirc
12:53 kados   ahh
12:52 paul    I remember you told me that already
12:52 paul    (but it's free for a boss ;-) )
12:52 kados   not NPL anymore
12:52 kados   s/a/as/
12:52 kados   a of today, I'm only an employee of liblime
12:52 paul    nobody can work more than 48H/week as employee.
12:52 kados   right :-)
12:52 paul    hehe.. typically US behaviour : in France, you can't legally have a full time job + another one.
12:51 kados   they work part-time for liblime
12:51 kados   Ryan and Tina have other full-time jobs
12:51 kados   (yes)
12:51 kados   she's still a student
12:51 paul    (tina & sara : name for woman, isn't it ? while Ryan if for a man ?)
12:51 kados   sara is our 'junior tech'
12:51 kados   not much
12:50 paul    neither write on koha-devel or somewhere else if I don't mind
12:50 kados   but they don't irc on #koha very much
12:50 kados   Tina and Sara are the others
12:49 kados   Ryan is one
12:49 kados   hehe
12:49 kados   not well known no
12:49 paul    I want NAMES :-)
12:49 kados   yep
12:49 paul    are the other 4 known in the Koha project ?
12:49 paul    ?
12:49 paul    you're 25% x4
12:49 kados   hehe
12:48 kados   (but I could be voted down :-))
12:48 kados   which is the way I'd like to keep it
12:48 kados   it's 'privately held' ... so noone but the four of us owns shares in the company
12:48 kados   hehe
12:48 paul    when do you plan to be introduced in NASDAQ ?
12:47 kados   and very modest paychecks :-)
12:47 kados   well ... only four of everything :-)
12:47 paul    :-D
12:47 paul    wow. It's a large company... shareholders, directors...
12:47 kados   of course I am both ... and so are the other four employees
12:47 kados   there are shareholders and a board of directors
12:46 kados   well ... it basically means I don't own the business
12:46 kados   it's a corporation :-)
12:46 paul    "we" have ?
12:46 kados   paul: + we're sub-contracting out to three others
12:45 kados   paul: well ... we have four employees
12:45 kados   where I plan to have a small site where users can submit their firefox plugins, etc.
12:45 paul    kados : how many ppl work for liblime (full time I mean) ?
12:45 kados   I also purchased kohazilla.org/com
12:44 owen    Very nice, kados!
12:43 kados   good point
12:43 paul    (you should change chat title ;-) )
12:42 kados   http://labs.liblime.com was announced just a sec ago
12:42 paul    hi owen
12:42 owen    Hi kados
12:42 kados   morning owen
12:42 kados   hehe
12:40 paul    any interesting news aroung opencataloger ?
12:38 kados   paul: (one not working yet)
12:38 kados   paul: opencataloger demos are there
12:38 kados   in case anyone missed it late yesterday, pre-preannouncement for a new site: http://labs.liblime.com/
12:27 paul    (my neveu one too)
12:22 shedges (a very good name -- my son's name)
12:22 shedges ah -- thanks, Paul!
12:08 paul    shedges : http://katipo.co.nz/gallery/album162?page=2 => baby name is benjamin
12:01 paul    in french we say "l'espoir fait vivre" (=hope keeps you alive) Except when you say this it mean you think "poor guy, you'll never succeed"
12:00 kados   hopefully the rest of the conversion will go smoothly
11:59 kados   waste of many hours :(
11:59 paul    (not your fault kados. but a shame, I agree)
11:59 kados   that's a real shame
11:58 kados   yikes ... sorry about that paul
11:57 paul    (but anyway I don't plan to build a nightly, I prefer official/stable releases)
11:57 paul    (and Mike don't remember where I could DL a nightly tarball)
11:56 paul    nope. But I bet it will be very soon now !
11:56 shedges any release date for 2.1.11?
11:56 paul    yep.
11:55 paul    (the complete mail should arrive at koha-devel & koha-zebra in 3 hours...)
11:55 shedges wow.  That must be very discouraging.
11:55 paul    so many time lost...
11:54 paul    still awaits release.
11:54 paul    tiny problem with this plan is that it doesn't yet exist, because it
11:54 paul    So before we continue, you need to upgrade to YAZ 2.1.11.  The only
11:54 paul    linking against doesn't exist, because (IIRC) you're using YAZ 2.1.10.
11:54 paul    In other words, it's precisely correct to say that the symbol you're
11:54 paul    unfortunately, the problem is :
11:54 paul    ok guys (kados, hdl and everybody...) my ZOOM problem is solved.
11:10 paul    hi kados
11:05 kados   paul++
11:05 kados   hi everyone