Time Nick Message 06:26 * magnuse waves 06:41 * cait waves back 06:41 ashimema[m] mornin' 06:47 reiveune hello 06:56 alex_a Bonjour 06:56 wahanui hey, alex_a 07:41 janPasi hi guys, has anyone tried running Koha on ARM-based servers? 07:41 janPasi are there problems to be expected? 07:43 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: DBRev 19.12.00.084 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=39138e860ce8e3eb54d2788ba32728baf03122c0> 07:43 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Schema Update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e2ace8dfe33c04048a3ef52a5a735cc9aedd54d1> 07:43 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17355: DBRev 19.12.00.083 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=219f000069377f8a6b2790e42870083236b66bd0> 07:43 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25311: (QA follow-up) Add misssing filter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d2c01b24586e3828c87c2bb383d864cebf32a7c4> 07:43 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: (follow-up) Don't show the macro ID in front of description <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c325fd6319057e8d8746bf829419f99d0ac9dba> 07:43 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: (QA follow-up) Make "Convert old browser macros" translatable <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8adf22c72511c9252cc90cc4d295f868abc1e718> 07:43 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17355: (QA follow-up) Add description to updatedatabase entry <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dc0cb0378cdd8260123bc3d0bbc58fd388b5e650> 07:43 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25309: Limit size of streetnumber field to 10 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6edd2d7f375f624a922bd59c1b275a9bdba6f97> 07:43 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25311: Better error handling when updating a patron <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b3e30677315ee304a74ae31c6851030e22b31b27> 07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25311: Better error handling when creating a patron <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=580e6fabff5ec0f564e200a6b2fe42955661b5b7> 07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24808: enable translation on results.js <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3d953d7988df792ca83a13872a39f49480c7e39f> 07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17355: Add the ability to remove authorised value categories <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=46040fcf862f0c7b6f8bdf9f2b1ecd9f15adf54e> 07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Update patchs per RFC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=240b52170be0551830d0d1c77967f271d5ae553e> 07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: (follow-up) Fix translatability <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c34eb3c95032b9ae54c04a55a5935bdc9691804c> 07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Set boolean for shared column in schema <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b76fb4a6c5b6eec9d9ed7a6656bca28e013b6ca9> 07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: (follow-up) Fix licenses <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e94c5ea20b60401c99cab1ee9c5d0a9b321b9acb> 07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Use API to store/retrieve values <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ed4cc6540e48da584763ed24d5571608d14cf61> 07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Schema update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3db5242ff9d92789ec346d6c278eb54c3bdd7d7d> 07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Advanced cataloging editor macros - add endpoint <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=537ba245eed721d645387b840d6dbffaf98d57df> 07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Add macros table and permissions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b6be7cced077e587c00a43080efc548b48fefac> 07:45 cait2 the work of a long weekend... gone in a second ;) 07:46 ashimema[m] not all of it ;) 07:46 ashimema[m] just the first half or so 07:46 ashimema[m] great work cait, thankyou :) 07:48 cait2 hopefully jenkins will agree :) 07:48 magnuse cait++ 07:48 cait2 janPasi: total noob there... is raspberry arm based? there are some pages on the wiki and I think Fred King did a presentation recently 07:50 ashimema[m] the pi is indeed an arm board 07:54 janPasi cait2: yep, raspberry pi is ARM :) 07:55 janPasi cait2: you wouldn't happen to have a link to the presentation? is it available on-line? 07:55 cait2 i believe it was for Koha Us 07:56 cait2 http://avengingchicken.online/misc/installing_koha_on_raspberry-pi-4.pdf 07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24636: (follow-up) - move 'by' into include file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f00c2a9a911b180d20638bafa26463d5e7a6619> 07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25340: Pass biblio object to OPAC comments template <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9776d591ece45b36365f69315e2c958f264bc76f> 07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25335: group by authorised_value in addbiblio.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e34f36d47fb2a5e7834b5f6b73e453d487d67b7> 07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21565: (follow-up) Make confirmation buttons more detailed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=569f3915d7212f580b7a5bf6c7767c6374c279dd> 07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25305: Translation process - Open all files specifying the utf8 encoding <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=83c65d975f8712c9d50ecf65033cdc1012698986> 07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24636: translate planning sections <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0650c9abdf1605030e86596c1000a91aaac8c5f5> 07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22515: Improve logic determining how to show OPAC suggestions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ebded0c3326e87aacba57c082d3ddf8fe37b510f> 07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21565: Add modal to SCO confirm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4317229ae9096453ece8464d09375488ff322e21> 07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25247: Only convert data ot objects when displaying on screen <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=263a889be4f3ec002b779abe0917da664e9b6ade> 07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25133: (follow-up) Remove Names as they do no affect display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3f752ce2b85bf600cca2e59b1bcd69a5854016aa> 07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25133: Handle 12hr format for dt_from_string <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0610dbd6fce4ffcc1dff0c69424d70703afa722e> 07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25133: Fix time part of due date for 12hr <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8d5b11629f74174c7e6169bfdc5ac969d9ed990> 07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25107: Remove double passing of $server variable to maybe_add in C4::SIP::Sip... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e4409155339139366d7cb586ee775a89d7f4c0b> 07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23119: MARC21 added title 246, 730 subfield i displays out of order, and should... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1667a5af935115a812bc95db26d31521ccb5ee44> 07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18308: Increase minPasswordLength default to 8 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e64d3c8d675040aa8213c1b4d6ee93267b741986> 07:56 janPasi cait2: awesome, thank you very much : 07:57 cait2 no problem, googling also seems to bring up a bit from the mailing list 07:58 janPasi we're not planning to use raspberry pi actually, but rather something based on AMD Opteron A or something like that, but that will still be helpful :) 07:58 janPasi we're planning to move all our Koha installations to be hosted by one single service provider and we've been thinking about maybe switching away from Intel while we're at it 07:59 janPasi at the moment we have six service providers, it's a nightmare :D 08:00 janPasi Actually I think I'll try it on raspberry pi first, that's a really cheap way to do some preliminary testing :) 08:05 ashimema[m] I'd be really interested in the results of running on the opteron A 08:06 janPasi ashimema[m]: I'll try to remember to let you know how this goes, just ask me if I don't remember :D 08:06 ashimema[m] went to a presentation in cambridge recently where they were showing off next gen ARMs with 256 cores 08:06 janPasi whoa, that's a lot of cores 08:07 ashimema[m] they're really going for the parallel compute route 08:07 janPasi so it seems :D 08:07 ashimema[m] we a very interesting presentation by one of the ARM founders 08:07 janPasi what was that abou? 08:08 janPasi *about 08:08 ashimema[m] s/we a/ was a/ 08:08 ashimema[m] it was just a bit of a history of ARM and where they're headed next 08:08 janPasi sounds interesting 08:08 ashimema[m] it's an amazing platform 08:09 janPasi i for one am a big fan of arm 08:09 janPasi yep 08:17 liliputech_asu what about RISC-V ? 08:17 liliputech_asu (didn't tried it yet) 08:18 janPasi liliputech_asu: is there hardware? :D 08:18 liliputech_asu janPasi: yes =) 08:19 janPasi liliputech_asu: also, how about OS/software compatibility? It's not very practical having to compile everything from source :( 08:19 ashimema[m] I know a few people who are very keen on RISC.. but i've never played with it myself 08:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1305: UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1305/ 08:22 liliputech_asu mostly devboard (like beaglebone / stuff like that) 08:22 liliputech_asu there was a great article in a journal called "hackable magazine" (french publication) 08:27 janPasi well that sort of rules it out for production servers :D 08:35 janPasi ashimema[m]: from what I understand, modern day Intel processors are internally also (at least mostly) RISC, they just look like CISC to the outside :D 08:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #766: UNSTABLE in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/766/ 08:36 janPasi ashimema[m]: they work in a way that they break CISC into a group of RISC commands and then execute them separately 08:37 janPasi ashimema[m]: to the user it looks like (s)he is dealing with a CISC processor, but that's just because there is an extra "layer" on top of RISC architecture that provides CISC style command set 08:38 janPasi ashimema[m]: i'm not an expert in this, but that's what I've allowed myself to be told :D 08:39 janPasi ashimema[m]: the problem with this evidently is that it's not very efficient compared to real RISC 08:39 ashimema[m] interesting 08:40 tcohen morning 08:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #847: FAILURE in 6 min 56 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/847/ 08:45 ashimema[m] rather early for you isn't it tcohen ? 08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Schema Fixes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d6ab91721366264d40fd092f6a2e1e7f74dfb8b5> 08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: DBRev 19.12.00.085 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a18e944400efd354f2b755459f45e249f8a24468> 08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: (follow-up) DB changes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e294eb1dd7965347fcbcb4aecb81d3eb4140232c> 08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Fix license statements <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1cf3f11bbda3ed0bc71dbee2853da2fbd0778e0b> 08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24995: (QA follow-up) Terminology: Use checkin and checkout <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0963451d65016d6c6c6a4ce4974ef6da18fc011c> 08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15668: (QA follow-up) Add date accessioned to column configuration <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=140079c807b68d48cc5abcd92a3b3cd55fd5e8cf> 08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15668: (QA follow-up) Fix capitalization Course Reserves <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=39d904e21d8adce183dc068a26172d8924dc10fa> 08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25350: Load Emoji picker assets more efficiently <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=67f695001a17556fc3b1796181fff9a1493cae94> 08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Display claimed dates vertically <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b34eab8570e1899e9a3395ddee2850f53fd1e15> 08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: DBIC manual changes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a8f3ba98feb6bfbc349d20e696e0ecaec2b3452> 08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24995: Add issuedate to table_account_fines and finest <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aca15e62532cdc05568c35e9014bc7e233d3a79f> 08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15668: (follow up) add selector to th <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c4375adb5f1bc9a1e3a70c49af43a3c02e0b8b1> 08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15668: Add column configuration to the items table in staff detail pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a867743f94402b475fcc3d62897ec6a23b2bec22> 08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24740: Use biblio title rather than biblio number in OPAC search result cover... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1dc361e824dbd60cb8aaade702c9873ea8942e44> 08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2de93144a3091e282c3a49e7c6957b91309ae17> 08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Remove GetLateOrders <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=33745001d1faf1c60a520297f7fad95a2e519604> 08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Keep tracks of late orders claims <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d2c2e7740fb5fc52e44c6363a217ce6c0f6bda47> 08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Add the Koha::Acquisition::Order::Claim[s] classes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b58c1c692b2bf335caac68968aaedd767b7977e2> 08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: DBIC changes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2556e39a34750e6f3cb7061c6d9eeb32dd0f7f53> 08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: DB changes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=878ab699fca320ba30b8f53a4015696a09c4e61d> 08:58 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #295: UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/295/ 09:04 tuxayo hi #koha o/ 09:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #213: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/213/ 09:17 tuxayo janPasi: About running Koha on ARM, if you are lucky, none of the perl deps from the Koha deb repo has native code. 09:17 tuxayo And the only perl deps and other deps with native code will come from Debian direclty. 09:17 tuxayo So nothing to compile and nothing to do differently from a classic install. (I hope). 09:19 tuxayo *Aside from telling your OS to use the Koha deb repo even if it's the wrong architecture. (like it's done on the slides sent earlier here) 09:31 janPasi tuxayo: that's kind of what I was hoping for :D 09:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #270: UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/270/ 09:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1306: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1306/ 09:36 janPasi tuxayo: of i could just install the perl deps directly from cpan 09:36 janPasi *or 09:36 tuxayo janPasi: how does it works for native deps? Does it compile them locally when installing? 09:37 janPasi that would probably be more laboursome, but then architecture specific things would likely not be a problem 09:37 janPasi tuxayo: yep 09:37 tuxayo great :D 09:38 janPasi there might be some version incompatibilities to deal with, however 09:38 tuxayo question about koha-testing-docker for anyone: what should one do to use ES? 09:38 tuxayo switch the syspref SearchEngine and run this ? 09:38 tuxayo misc/search_tools/rebuild_elastic_search.pl -v -d 09:38 tuxayo It seems to work but I don't want to be bitten later by a missing steps. 09:39 tuxayo janPasi: you mean due to mistakes in matching the same version as in the Koha deb repo? 09:39 janPasi tuxayo: yeah, that would require some additional attention, at least 09:40 janPasi tuxayo: the latest version in cpan is not always the one you need for Koha, based on my past experiences 09:44 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #848: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/848/ 09:48 Joubu @later tell marcelr bug 8132 - is it still missing info? Can you detail why you disagree with the idea? As I said it has been considered critical for several years :) 09:48 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 09:59 * cait2 reads UNSTABLE and hides 10:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #767: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/767/ 10:10 cait2 bug 8132 10:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8132 major, P4, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Batch delete tool deletes items with holds on them 10:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #296: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/296/ 10:16 magnuse bug 8132 10:16 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8132 major, P4, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Batch delete tool deletes items with holds on them 10:27 * ashimema[m] would love to see bug 25245 make it through 10:27 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25245 new feature, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Add a plugin hook to allow running code on a nightly basis 10:27 ashimema[m] with it in we can install the recalls plugin without any manual messing about 10:50 cait not sure what cuased this 10:50 cait but we have a javasript error preventing me to add items in acq 10:50 cait TypeError: $.timepicker is undefined 10:50 cait well... it breaks more, but that#s how i noticed 10:52 Joubu cait: certainly bug 25133 10:52 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25133 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Specify Due date changes from PM to AM if library has their TimeFormat set to 12hr 10:52 cait ouch 10:52 cait that's on me the 10:52 cait n 10:52 cait but i did test it... I sear 10:52 cait swear 10:52 Joubu can you let a note please? 10:53 cait i had to write up my own test plan 10:54 cait Joubu: i wantd to retest the late orders, but can't create late orders... will have to wait until i can get back to this 10:54 cait i left a note 11:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #271: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/271/ 11:05 nlegrand a gut yor 11:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #214: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/214/ 11:28 Joubu kidclamp: letting you the follow-up for 25133? 11:30 kidclamp ok, can do 11:30 * cait2 hopes not more things she actually tested explode today *grump* 11:37 magnuse cait2: it only proves you too are human :-) 11:38 cait2 I am not sure this human thing suits me 11:40 magnuse hehe 11:44 Joubu ashimema[m]: selenium tests are broken because of the bug cait reported on 25133 11:44 Joubu ashimema[m]: 2 follow-ups on 24161 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: (follow-up) DBIC changes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=164b8127e719628aa9013dd2b30fb6511fbc4bf9> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: (follow-up) Fix typo in POD <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=910acdbcfab3c11a583dd5cb92802fe57355f1ff> 11:58 oleonard Hi #koha 11:58 tuxayo o/ oleonard 12:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #849: STILL FAILING in 11 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/849/ 12:09 Joubu Thanks Nick! 12:10 Joubu Thanks kidclamp :) 12:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #272: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/272/ 12:44 Joubu ashimema[m]: can you push Nick's follow-up on bug 25133 please? 12:44 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25133 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Specify Due date changes from PM to AM if library has their TimeFormat set to 12hr 12:46 ashimema[m] done 12:46 ew hi everyone 12:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25133: (follow-up) Move changes to timepicker.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a6985d167e11eaafee985b51cb0188a693405af5> 12:47 tuxayo khall++ 12:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #297: STILL UNSTABLE in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/297/ 12:48 ew I installed koha on our server and tried to configure it. I want to catalogue our library with about 1000 books in a simple manner. I am not used to library software and I think that koha is too mighty for our purpose. Do you have any good recommendations for me? 12:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1307: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1307/ 13:10 oleonard ew: Did you have a problem setting up Koha? I'm curious why you think it's not right for you. 13:20 ew @oleanord: Well yes, I get various problems in the MARC testing in all preconfigured frameworks. And when trying to import from z39.50 servers and also when manually creating an entry I am overwhelmed by the professional terms the software uses... there is a steep learning curve involved for me personally 13:20 huginn ew: downloading the Perl source 13:21 ew I simply think that it is too powerful for my scenario... so I figured it would be clever to ask the experts for any alternatives that are easy to use 13:41 oleonard ew: Unfortunately I spend all my time with Koha so I'm not aware of what the alternatives are 13:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #768: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/768/ 13:42 ew why is a piece designation (barcoe) mandatory for example? we don't use that 13:43 oleonard ew: Because it is expected that items will be circulated 13:44 kidclamp tuxayo++ 13:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #298: STILL UNSTABLE in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/298/ 13:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #215: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 18 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/215/ 13:58 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #850: STILL FAILING in 12 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/850/ 14:19 oleonard Bug 25365 14:19 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25365 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , JavaScript error on neworderempty.pl: $.timepicker is undefined 14:20 oleonard Looks like the error isn't just on that page, but other pages with datepickers too 14:23 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1308: STILL UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1308/ 14:25 tuxayo Good, the job offer for the next RM is published now. I'm confident we will find someone quickly. 14:25 tuxayo https://picat.drycat.fr/4UeyyXPN.png 14:26 tuxayo wait 14:27 liliputech_asu *magical* internet point \(*o*)/ 14:27 tuxayo It's release manager, not release maintainer. 14:27 tuxayo Nooooooooooooo 14:28 tuxayo Well it's still a relevant offer. Despite the typo. 14:29 liliputech_asu wether its for release Maintainer or Manager, still RM tuxayo =) 14:29 tuxayo liliputech_asu: Maintainer => RMaint 14:29 liliputech_asu oh. 14:30 tuxayo Indeed that's confusing. 14:34 Null404 hello there 14:34 wahanui Greetings, programs! 14:35 Null404 I have a problem, I used this script: https://bywatersolutions.com/education/set-items-to-quarantine-status-upon-return and koha block returned books and reserved books too 14:35 Null404 how to not block reservations ? 14:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #273: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/273/ 14:36 caroline normally, if your not_loan value is negative, you should be able to reserve items 14:37 Null404 if I want to accept reservation, reserved book has "quarantine " status 14:39 caroline just make sure your quarantine status is negative (like -5 like in the example) 14:40 Null404 yes 14:40 Null404 quarantine have -5 status 14:40 caroline what do you mean Koha blocks returned books and reserved books? 14:42 Null404 someone returned book and it blocked - thats ok 14:42 caroline when you say it blocked, you mean it put the quarantine status 14:42 Null404 I want to borrow reserved book from shelf and this is blocked too 14:42 Null404 yes 14:44 caroline so a book that did not have the quarantine status was reserved on the shelf, but when you check it in to confirm the reservation, it puts the quarantine status? 14:45 Null404 I cannot confirm hold 14:45 Null404 @caroline yes 14:45 huginn Null404: downloading the Perl source 14:46 did Hi, why both indexes on biblio PRIMARY KEY (`biblionumber`), KEY `blbnoidx` (`biblionumber`) ) ? Leftover from another time? 14:47 caroline Marie-Luce: did you test this? if an item has regular available status (0) and is reserved on shelf, when you check it in, it puts the quarantine status you cannot confirm the hold? can you check? 14:48 Marie-Luce after a checkin of a reserved item, you'll get the quarantine status 14:48 Null404 without confirm hold I can borrow book 14:48 caroline does it still pop-up the hold confirmation? 14:49 Null404 yes I have pop up, I can confirm 14:49 Null404 I can't borrow that book 14:49 Marie-Luce from what I've seen, you will be asked to confirm the hold, but you have to ignore the message 14:50 caroline Null404: so you have the pop up and you can confirm the hold, but afterwards, you cant check it out because the not_loan status is on quarantine 14:50 Null404 if I ignore pop up also adds quarantine status 14:51 Null404 thats right caroline 14:51 caroline it logically makes sense 14:51 Null404 so how to fix that ? 14:51 caroline I'm trying to think of a way to work around it 14:51 Marie-Luce after the quarantine, you can use the automatic status change [-5: 0], this will activate the hold 14:52 Null404 I know Marie luce 14:52 Null404 but I cannot ublock books every 5 minutes 14:52 Null404 *unblock 14:53 caroline Marie-Luce: this is for a book that was not out, it was in the library so it doesn't need to be in quarantine, but the checkin to confirm the hold puts it in quarantine anyway because it's a checkin 14:53 Null404 maybe there is a way to ignore retun status from [null] user ? 14:54 Null404 thats right caroline 14:55 Joubu did: yes, it should be removed 14:55 did joubu: thanks 14:56 caroline Null404: right now there is no way to make exceptions for UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin 14:56 Null404 so any ideas ? 14:57 caroline can you use something else than a status? like a location? a location will not block the loan, but your staff will know that it is quarantined 14:58 Null404 you mean change location of book ? 14:58 caroline using UpdateItemLocationOnCheckin 14:58 Null404 this will be problem 14:58 caroline ok nevermind them 14:59 Null404 on one system there is 4 libraries 14:59 Null404 *are 15:00 Marie-Luce just to clarify, are you using UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin and the tool automatic item modification by age? 15:01 caroline Null404: can you use AllowNotForLoanOverride ? 15:02 caroline This will allow staff to loan out books even if they have the quarantined status 15:02 caroline exceptionally 15:06 Null404 caroline: click allow on "staff to override and check out items that are marked as not for loan. ? 15:06 Null404 that makes sense 15:07 caroline yes 15:07 caroline Marie-Luce thought of another option 15:07 caroline she's typing right now :) 15:08 Marie-Luce just an idea: it may need a double checkin. For example: if you set UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin [0: -5], you can add a second rules [-5: 0] 15:09 Marie-Luce at the first checkin, the book will get the quarantine status (you can ignore the hold confirmation), at the second checkin the book will return as available 15:09 Marie-Luce and this time you can confirm the reservation 15:12 Null404 sound great 15:12 caroline Marie-Luce++ 15:20 Marie-Luce :) 15:28 Null404 thanks caroline for help ! :) 15:33 Null404 you idea Marie-Luce is awesome, it works now perfectly 15:33 Null404 *your 15:33 reiveune bye 15:35 Marie-Luce I'm glad it worked out 15:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #216: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 17 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/216/ 15:52 tuxayo Does anyone know where KohaDevBox or koha-testing-docker puts the SIP logs? 16:53 kidclamp syslog? 17:17 tuxayo kidclamp: /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages doesn't exist 17:38 kidclamp Is there a var log Koha sip log? 18:25 tuxayo kidclamp++ 18:26 tuxayo yes, in /var/log/koha/kohadev/ 18:26 tuxayo :D 18:28 oleonard kidclamp is soaking in karma today 18:30 kidclamp Be wary oleonard, it might just be a guilty conscience about bugs I created 18:31 oleonard We call that "git blame syndrome" 18:34 tuxayo It always starts with karma. 21:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #127: STILL UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/127/ 21:36 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 21:36 wahanui Congratulations! 21:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #126: FIXED in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/126/ 22:08 aleisha hey is anyone able to help me with a schema files issue i'm having? 22:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #121: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/121/ 22:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #127: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/127/ 22:44 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #128: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/128/ 23:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #122: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/122/