Time  Nick         Message
06:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #55 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS)
10:33 mveron       Hi #koha
10:33 mveron       @wunder allschwil
10:33 huginn       mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 3.7°C (11:33 AM CET on February 15, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
11:57 * mveron     waves to cait :-)
11:57 * cait       waves back
11:59 mveron       cait: On circulation.pl I get "Am" as translation for "On-site checkout" (near checkbox). Not sure, maybe it takes just the 'On' (=Am) for translation.
12:00 cait         hm i think i fixed that
12:00 cait         should be ok with 3.18.4
12:00 cait         if you want you can get the po files from pootle - i fixed a lot of smal things the last days
12:00 cait         preparing for a training next week
12:01 mveron       I just updated from pootle, maybe I mistaked.
12:01 mveron       Will try again.
12:01 cait         hm strange
12:01 cait         oh
12:01 cait         i think i only fixed german - did you look at de-ch?
12:03 mveron       I made a fresh copy for de-CH from de-DE today. And I have the same in bothe languages. But if it looks OK on your installation I did something wrong with updating.
12:03 cait         let me check
12:05 cait         hm look ok on mine
12:05 cait         3.18.3 with updated po files from thursday
12:05 cait         says : Vor-Ort-Ausleihe
12:05 mveron       I'll check my installation, seems to be a mistake here...
12:06 mveron       Other issue: 'Ausgeliehen to' on biblio detail page.  'to' did not translate.
12:06 cait         checking
12:06 cait         yeah seeing the same
12:06 cait         i was mostly in opac and on the circ screen so far
12:09 mveron       Seems to b on detail.tt after line 599. Lots of IF - ELSE - UNLESS
12:09 cait         did you find the strng in pootle yet?
12:09 cait         i think i found it
12:10 cait         http://translate.koha-community.org/de/318/translate/#search=to%20Ausgeliehen&sfields=target&unit=12781924
12:16 mveron       %s to  -> %s an  , but I do not see why it needs a %s (line 605 in detail.tt)
12:16 cait         it's the else
12:19 mveron       Looking at the code, there is a variant "Checked-out by" (onsite-checkout) and "Checked-out to" (Normal checkout). Could both read "Checked out to" and then the "to" could moved to the "Checked-out"
12:20 mveron       could be moved
12:20 cait         hm i thought there was a 'in local use'
12:20 cait         for the onsite
12:20 cait         i think maybe the variation is for when you don't display the name
12:27 mveron       Ah, "Currently in local use by" and "Checked-out to".
12:29 * mveron     tries to check how the 'by' translates
12:31 cait         brb
12:35 mveron       @later tell cait 'by' translates OK: Ausgeliehen to Edna Acosta,  but: Aktuell in lokaler Benutzung von Hans Testmann
12:35 huginn       mveron: The operation succeeded.
13:43 tst_         i wish to get publisher with authority data
13:43 tst_         how to use publisher authority
13:43 tst_         and where to add publisher name in authority
13:43 tst_         database
13:43 wahanui      well, database is gone now :(
13:54 tst_         when i am addding publisher in authority field
13:54 tst_         in which tag numbers i should add name of the publisher, place and address of publisher
13:55 tst_         when i click on 260 in publisher authority it says  COMPLEX SEE REFERENCE--SUBJECT
13:55 tst_         but publisher name in marc 21 tag is 260$b
15:18 cait         hi tcohen
15:18 tcohen       hi cait
18:52 mveron       Good evening / daytime #koha
18:54 mveron       cait: Thanks for helping with the translation this afternoon. I translated the %to in de-CH as well and the "Vor-Ort-Ausleihe" is OK as well.
18:56 mveron       @wunder Allschwil
18:56 huginn       mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 2.2°C (7:56 PM CET on February 15, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
18:59 cait         cool :)
19:03 mveron       :-)
19:49 mveron       Good night #koha
21:04 tcohen       around?
21:09 cait         who?
21:41 eythian      the world
21:41 wahanui      the world is >48fps
21:41 eythian      around the world?
21:41 wahanui      Around the world.
21:47 wizzyrea     Around the world is <reply> https://i.imgur.com/Gm0sAes.gif
21:47 wizzyrea     around the world?
21:47 wahanui      Around the world.
21:47 rangi        @later tell joubu is hea down?
21:47 huginn       rangi: The operation succeeded.
21:56 wizzyrea     Around the world is also <reply> https://i.imgur.com/Gm0sAes.gif
21:56 wahanui      okay, wizzyrea.
22:57 eythian      https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-W_apgVmij20/VOAvvgpevvI/AAAAAAAAO3A/fPG5gFS2Rg8/w953-h536-no/mate_2015.02.15.051456.utc-smplayer-2009-terminator-salvation-mp4_16-9.jpg <-- Linux 4.1.15-1.1381_SKYN12nnmp
22:58 rangi        well 3.20 is rebootless patching
22:58 rangi        it's on the way
22:59 wizzyrea     "can you make the computer look computer-y, kthx."
23:00 rangi        http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/11/linux_to_get_live_patching_in_320/
23:01 eythian      http://nmap.org/movies/ <-- wizzyrea
23:01 eythian      rangi: yeah, though I think we use/used ksplice here for things. Though, that may be been pre-Oracle-terribleness
23:02 rangi        yeah we did/do but it's nice the new one will come with the kernel
23:02 wizzyrea     hehehe
23:03 eythian      it'll still require someone to produce the patches, I think. But that's more likely now that there's the infrastructure to deploy them.
23:04 rangi        yeah, and that its not looked up .. id imagine a bunch will come from redhat and suse
23:04 rangi        first
23:04 rangi        then others will get in on the act
23:09 tcohen       we love ksplice in our infrastructure
23:34 tcohen       eythian: around?
23:34 eythian      <eythian> the world
23:34 tcohen       hah
23:34 tcohen       aa quick question regarding ES
23:34 eythian      sure
23:35 tcohen       did u take a look at Koha::RecordProcessor and Koha::Filter::* ?
23:35 eythian      I haven't, no
23:35 tcohen       they seem to be a very well defined API for transforming data in a organized way
23:36 tcohen       if you need to transform data, of course
23:36 rangi        hmm probably not as nice as Catmandu tho
23:36 eythian      that's kinda what catmandu is for
23:36 rangi        which is what we are using
23:36 eythian      Catmandu is probably more generally useful
23:36 rangi        instead of building our own ... which we then have to maintain ;)
23:36 eythian      e.g. you can just plug in CSV input/output, or SQL, or MARC, or whatever you like.
23:37 rangi        http://search.cpan.org/~nics/Catmandu-0.01/
23:39 rangi        ttp://search.cpan.org/~nics/Catmandu-0.9210/  (much more recent)
23:40 tcohen       so it moves Catmandu objects around
23:41 tcohen       like the MARC::Record lib, but with more fancy tools to transform data
23:41 rangi        and not limited to marc
23:41 rangi        yeah
23:42 tcohen       does it provide an API for transforming data? Catmandu::Fix?
23:42 rangi        exporter
23:42 rangi        and fix
23:42 rangi        and importer
23:42 rangi        combo of those 3
23:43 rangi        import, fix, export
23:45 tcohen       where are you hooking it to Koha?¡
23:46 rangi        Koha::ElasticSearch::Indexer and Koha::SearchEngine::Elasticsearch::Search.pm  currently
23:46 rangi        http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=Koha/ElasticSearch/Indexer.pm;h=b7d609706aa17c60e1c8c18da481f590f48f2cb2;hb=3ba7fd61a519bf2924517df2ca9b656bbea23d2f
23:47 rangi        my $importer = Catmandu::Importer::MARC->new( records => $records, id => '999c' );
23:47 rangi        my $fixer = Catmandu::Fix->new( fixes => $self->get_fixer_rules() );
23:47 rangi        $importer = $fixer->fix($importer);
23:47 rangi        use
23:47 rangi        Catmandu::Store::ElasticSearch->new(
23:47 rangi        too
23:49 rangi        once the ES stuff is happy, we can start moving it to do things like the RIS export etc
23:49 rangi        kaizen .. one thing at a time :)
23:50 tcohen       heh
23:50 tcohen       catalyst repo?
23:50 rangi        its an optional dependency
23:50 rangi        yeah its all on the bug too
23:50 rangi        just easier to view in gitweb
23:50 rangi        bug 12478
23:50 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12478 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , Elasticsearch support for Koha
23:52 tcohen       thanks
23:55 rangi        tcohen: it should make adding other data sources a lot easier
23:55 rangi        want to have dc and marc indexed .. then this would be quite possibel
23:56 tcohen       i'm trying to weight if some stuff i planned to work on is worth
23:56 tcohen       are you still relying on MARCXML data for display?
23:56 rangi        http://librecat.org/
23:56 rangi        for now, yep
23:57 rangi        id recommend having a read up/play with that site
23:58 rangi        also
23:59 rangi        http://librecat.org/events.html
23:59 tcohen       are you using mij for indexing? or still using plain marcxml?
23:59 rangi        its elasticsearch so neither
23:59 rangi        its json