Time Nick Message 23:30 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (11:00 AM NZST on September 25, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 23:30 eythian @wunder nzwn 23:20 huginn mtj: The operation succeeded. 23:20 mtj @later tell chris_n can you give me a ping :) 23:20 huginn mtj: downloading the Perl source 23:20 mtj @later chris_n can you give me a ping :) 23:19 mtj hey chris_n, about? 23:19 dcook Thanks :) 23:18 dcook Late late honeymoon 23:18 tcohen dcook: take care! and enjoy it a lot! 23:18 dcook Should be :) 23:18 mtj sounds like an amazing holiday dcook 23:18 dcook So if I fall over the edge, know that you've all meant so much to me ^_^ 23:18 dcook The one is pretty cool. Italian cliffside with absolutely no safety rail to the side. Just death below. 23:17 dcook And there are at least two walks over 10km 23:17 dcook 28 days and we're not staying anywhere longer than 2-3 days at a time 23:17 dcook I think I'll be so busy running around :p 23:16 tcohen hopefuly! 23:16 dcook I'm sure I'll think of you all, but hopefully not too much ;) 23:15 dcook hehe 23:15 wizzyrea yeah, have fun, don't forget us. ^.^ 23:15 dcook Thanks :) 23:15 tcohen have a nice holiday! 23:15 tcohen hey dcook 23:15 dcook hey tcohen :) 23:14 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Kalamaki - AirMar, Alimos, Greece is 22.7°C (2:10 AM EEST on September 25, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). 23:14 dcook @wunder athens, greece 23:14 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 21.0°C (9:00 AM AEST on September 25, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 23:14 dcook @wunder syd 22:40 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 19.1°C (7:35 PM ART on September 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 22:40 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 22:27 huginn indradg: The operation succeeded. 22:27 indradg @later tell magnuse I have to some work on 1.2.2 i made some mess there... i think 22:26 huginn indradg: magnuse was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 8 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <magnuse> have fun #koha! 22:26 indradg @seen magnuse 22:18 wahanui bidet, tcohen 22:18 tcohen hola wahanui 22:18 wahanui hello, tcohen 22:18 tcohen hi 21:35 wizzyrea I think we have a library running plugins in 3.16 21:18 cait night magnuse :) 21:18 magnuse have fun #koha! 21:18 magnuse oh well, i'll try and report a bug as soon as i can, need some sleep now 21:17 magnuse cait: gah, lazy bywaterians ;-) 21:17 magnuse and the plugin does not show as installed, even if there are files added to the plugins dir 21:16 cait magnuse: at the staff retreat i think 21:16 magnuse ping khall? 21:16 magnuse plugins-upload.pl: Use of uninitialized value $op in string eq at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/plugins/plugins-upload.pl line 91., referer: http://example.com:8080/cgi-bin/koha/plugins/plugins-home.pl 21:16 magnuse plugins-upload.pl: Use of uninitialized value $op in string eq at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/plugins/plugins-upload.pl line 57., referer: http://example.com:8080/cgi-bin/koha/plugins/plugins-home.pl 21:16 magnuse i get a couple of errors in the logs: 21:14 cait although i'd really want to for some things 21:13 cait not done much with plugins yet 21:13 magnuse anyone tried installing plugins on 3.16.x? specifically https://github.com/l2c2technologies/KohaCMS/releases/tag/1.2.2 21:10 magnuse kia ora wizzyrea 21:09 cait morning wizzyrea 21:09 wizzyrea morning 20:26 JesseM :) 20:26 cait :) 20:26 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 20:26 huginn JesseM: A series statement for which no series added entry is traced or for which the added entry is traced in one of the 800-830 fields in a form different from the form contained in field 490. (Repeatable) [a,l,v,x,6,8] 20:26 JesseM @marc 490 20:26 huginn JesseM: A series added entry consisting of a series title alone. (Repeatable) [a,d,f,g,h,k,l,m,n,o,p,r,s,t,v,6,8] 20:26 JesseM @marc 830 20:25 wnickc maybe smarch isn't a bad idea 20:25 gmcharlt a few more weeks in the year... 20:22 cait yeah... and more hours in a day too :) 20:21 wnickc could use a few extra days in the week :) 20:21 cait very happy to have you around :) wnickc++ 20:21 wnickc I totally understand, trying to chip away at the signoff queue too, but it is outpacing efforts 20:20 cait but i hope we can have a good hackfest in argentina - getting things moving a bit again 20:20 cait i am sorry things are wiating so long :( time is always the problem 20:20 cait i understand 20:19 wnickc thanks cait, this is one we have been anxiously awaiting so I may be a bit eager :) 20:17 cait wnickc: i will see it on the list, but feel free to remind me sometime next week :) 20:16 wnickc I can let you know if/when it is rebased 20:15 wnickc ah, yes, that rings familiar 20:14 cait i think there is a staff retreat going on now at bywater 20:13 wnickc if he is able 20:13 wnickc and now I will ask khall to rebase it too 20:12 cait i'd love to see the list empty before 3.18 release, hope we can get close to that 20:12 wnickc grateful for the consideration either way 20:12 cait but i'll try 20:11 cait no guarantees yet 20:11 wnickc cait that would be incredible, I would owe you many 20:10 cait wnickc: maybe i can next week 19:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9011 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add the ability to store the last patron to return an item 19:59 wnickc could I interest any QAer in looking at bug 9011? 19:36 wnickc there are commands to create/delete instances 19:36 wahanui They have man pages, and you can look here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages 19:36 wnickc package commands? 19:35 test can you direct me on how to setup/reinitialize a koha instance? 19:32 test koha-list returns empty/null 19:31 test i believe i did fix them but subsequently could remessup 19:30 test i did see a wiki item for fixing the various directories will try attend to them in a bit 19:30 test rebuild_zebra.pl i might have ran 19:29 jcamins *But* if you ran rebuild_zebra.pl, your file ownership is going to be all screwed up, and it will be painful. 19:29 jcamins koha-list will list your instances. 19:29 jcamins Yeah, you need to know your instance name. It's what you used for koha-create. 19:29 test is there a way to get the current instance? 19:29 test now that you mention instancename, i think i tried that but it failed on instance name...i dont remember actually setting an instance name and somehow i believe that where the problem might be 19:28 jcamins Good luck. 19:27 jcamins However, I need to get back to work. 19:27 jcamins If you ran rebuild_zebra.pl manually once on a package install, that almost invariably results in breaking indexing. 19:27 test as in there exist over 300+ items added from z3950 but they dont show eithr in the staff or opac interfaces 19:27 jcamins Right, with packages you reindex using `sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f myinstance` not rebuild_zebra.pl. 19:26 test the package install loads the web interface quite well but somehow indexing failing 19:25 test i have two installs one strictly source and the other strickly package 19:21 jcamins Your best bet is following the package instructions with packages. Following source instructions (this is what's in the INSTALL files, I think) and installing from the packages will break search 100% of the time. 19:21 test far back as 3.8 i believe 19:20 test i had ssetup koha many times before sucessfully from source 19:20 test actually i used the info in on of the install files.. 19:19 jcamins You found instructions for setting up Koha somewhere else, didn't you? 19:18 test tried endlessly to do the fast index and the other suggested options for the indexing deamon but that yield no results 19:17 test i did that too on a different vm but somehow im not having any luck with getting my items shown in the opac or in the staff section 19:16 jcamins ^^ equally applicable to Ubuntu. 19:16 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 19:16 jcamins packages? 19:16 jcamins And I'd follow the instructions. 19:16 jcamins Yeah, were I you, I would've used the packages. It's straightforward to upgrade an Apache 2.2 configuration file to an Apache 2.4 configuration file. 19:15 test point to note im using 14.04ltsfd" 19:14 test point to note im using 14.04lts 19:14 test hmm ... 19:13 jcamins test: your web server is configured incorrectly, but I can't help you with figuring out how. This is why I always tell everyone to use the Debian packages. 19:12 wnickc I wish I could help, but that is beyond my knowledge 19:09 test hi all just installed koha from source but the web installer serving a perl file instead of the expected webpage can anyone point me to a solution 19:03 wahanui any ideas are welcome :) 19:03 test any ideas? 19:03 test hey guys i just did a source install of 3.16.3. whenever i go the the web interface it returns a perl file instead of the expected page 19:00 cait hi wnickc :) 18:59 oleonard By #koha 18:51 wnickc hi cait 18:47 * cait waves 18:47 oleonard Thanks for testing wnickc 18:45 wnickc sorry about that, monitor settings fixed it a bit, my problem though, not yours 18:44 oleonard Examining the styles on each page shows that they are the same color 18:43 wnickc they are all highlighted, I will sign off soon 18:42 wnickc but I think it just might be me, something about the page setup 18:42 wnickc authority types seems much clearer to me than circ rules 18:40 oleonard wnickc: Can you give me examples of both? 18:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2889 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , templates should use [% IF ( loop.odd ) %] 18:38 wnickc for bug 2889 18:38 wnickc I think it was my monitor/eyes. even after adjusting my settings some are much more apparent to me than others 18:37 wnickc oleonard: is there any possibility some row highlightings are darker than others? 18:19 tcohen heh 18:19 tcohen *needs 18:19 * tcohen is excited, wants kohacon to happen right now 16:46 gmcharlt remote exploit in bash - https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2014/msg00220.html 16:10 cait oleonard: i am carefully optimistic :) 16:07 oleonard And yeah, no translatable string is involved, just template tags 16:06 oleonard It's been that way in memberentrygen.tt for ages so I would assume it's okay. It just seemed strange. 16:04 cait you'd want to check how it shows up for translators (if at all because it doesn't seem to have a string) and then if it gets translated properly 16:04 cait oleonard: i am nt sure actually - i'd have to run the po files :( 16:02 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Question about embedding [% IF %] in HTML tags" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/227 15:59 cait tcohen++ 15:58 cait :) 15:58 tcohen still have more tha na week :-D 15:58 gmcharlt tcohen: I will - some time this afternoon 15:56 tcohen bye Joubu 15:56 tcohen gmcharlt: please let us know as soon as the CoC is ready. We'd like to publish it 15:44 Joubu bye #koha 15:40 * thd returns to fixing his neighbour's apartment. 15:37 thd Minor differences to what I posted on the mailing list are shortening the ugly verbosity for "24 hours" to "24 hours" and correcting a spelling error. 15:36 thd I hope, I actually did what I had intended. 15:35 gmcharlt no worries, I'll fix that up 15:35 thd gmcharlt I note a peculuar markdown presentation error on the last line where I have tried to escape an apostrophe. 15:32 thd I have learnt my lesson that truth which is a perfect defence against defamation in the US does not apply to contempt of court. 15:30 thd My alleged offence could only have imposed a fine. Hence, I am very sensitive about potential abuses of procedure. 15:29 thd s/judge/magistrate/ 15:28 thd However, I spent a week in gaol for contempt of court in Newark, NJ after asking a court officer in the corridor why the judge was an hour and a half late every time when I had to appear for using the wrong transit ticket on what was a local light rail system. 15:26 * druthb wanders off to her daily scrum 15:25 tcohen gmcharlt++ 15:25 thd Argentina is not one of the countries where I would worry about abuse. 15:25 thd OK 15:25 gmcharlt it's understood that amendments will happen 15:25 gmcharlt thd: right - I'm going to put up the change, and request approval on the mailing list for the change now that the draft CoC has been accepted 15:24 thd gmcharlt: I have sent a patch for the code of conduct both via email and on github 15:24 druthb For some reason in my head, I thought that had been settled a long time ago. I can't imagine why anyone would want to hold that process up. Glad the ball got moved down the field, then. 15:23 thd I had the time wrong. 15:23 thd gmcharlt: Apparently. we both missed the meeting. 15:23 druthb Ah. Definitely, then. 15:22 gmcharlt druthb: cait running with the CoC ball this morning 15:22 druthb cait++ 15:22 druthb Oh, right. 15:21 cait druthb: since when do you need a reason? ;) 15:19 tcohen morning 15:19 tcohen hi 15:19 Joubu oleonard: I am not sure we should. I had a quick test at the page using ColVis and it seems to work correctly 15:17 druthb #wait, what are we ++ing cait for? 15:17 cait lol 15:17 druthb cait++ 15:16 oleonard Joubu: Don't other DataTables plugins need to be updated at the same time? ColVis, at least, is listed on the DataTables site 15:16 gmcharlt cait++ 15:16 gmcharlt cait++ 15:16 gmcharlt cait++ 15:02 thd Sorry all, I had the wrong time for the meeting. 15:01 Joubu yep, it's what I am doing :) 15:01 barton morning, #koha 15:01 oleonard Joubu: Will you create a separate bug for the upgrade? I think that would be best. 14:58 oleonard I see the DataTables site has a new look 14:58 Joubu I got the new one and it works 14:58 Joubu which does not seem to use with our current version 14:58 Joubu I am going to use footerCallback 14:57 Joubu oleonard: yes 14:56 oleonard Do you see a need to do an upgrade now? 14:56 Joubu oleonard: ok thanks, it was just in case :) 14:55 oleonard Joubu: I don't know. 14:55 Joubu oleonard: do you know if it's save to upgrade our datatables.js version? 14:52 Joubu oleonard: I let a note 14:52 oleonard Okay thanks 14:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11578 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Improvement of the funds list view 14:51 Joubu bug 11578 14:51 Joubu hum not this one... 14:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11576 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Untranslatable "manage" in serials-collection 14:51 Joubu bug 11576 14:51 Joubu oleonard: yes completely. Actually it is already pushed :) 14:49 thd gmcharlt: Are you here? 14:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10929 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , fund amounts sort incorrectly in table on Administration -> Budgets -> Funds page 14:47 oleonard Joubu: I wonder if Bug 10929 is made obsolete by any of your work in progress? 14:45 jmsasse Night BobB 14:44 jmsasse Cait++:) 14:44 BobB goodnight all, bedtime here 14:43 BobB thanks for chairing so well again cait 14:43 cait stupid timezones 14:43 BobB don't worry, done now 14:43 BobB yep, it'll midnight here again, LOL 14:42 cait in australia too? 14:42 cait daylight savings 14:42 cait you are right i guess 14:42 cait eek 14:42 BobB timezones change before 22 Oct (: 14:42 cait and BobB for staying up late 14:42 cait thx everyone for attending 14:42 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/general_irc_meeting__24_september.2014-09-24-14.00.log.html 14:42 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/general_irc_meeting__24_september.2014-09-24-14.00.txt 14:42 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/general_irc_meeting__24_september.2014-09-24-14.00.html 14:42 huginn Meeting ended Wed Sep 24 14:42:05 2014 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 14:42 cait #endmeeting 14:42 cait we will see :) can still change via mailing list if it's totally bad 14:41 cait #agreed Next meeting will be October 22, 13 UTC 14:41 cait this one was 14 14:41 BobB ah ok 14:41 cait just checking, that would be 13 utc? 14:41 BobB Is that 10pm utc? 14:41 BobB its impossible to be convenient for everyone, its good to rotate it 14:40 cait i am bad with timezones, relying on others here :) 14:40 oleonard Sure why not 14:40 cait shall we try? 14:40 oleonard ...but not unreasonably early for them. 14:39 cait 10pm? 14:39 oleonard one hour earlier works fine for me, not so well for folks on US west coast. 14:39 cait ah maybe 14:39 cait hmnot quite enough for the kiwis i think 14:39 cait i know of somene else who this would work for better 14:39 BobB Three hours earlier might bring the kiwis in 14:39 BobB one hour earlier ++ 14:38 cait is this time better for everyone? could it be an option to move it one horu earlier? 14:38 oleonard +1 for Oct. 22 14:38 cait thx jmsasse - was wondering if anyone was still here with me:) 14:38 jmsasse +1 for Oct. 22 14:37 cait or 22nd - a week earlier and closer to kohacon? 14:37 cait of october 14:37 cait that would be .. . mabe 29th? 14:37 cait if we keep the usual monthly schedule 14:36 cait #topic Set time and date of next general meeting 14:36 cait so movign on to the last topic then :) 14:36 cait anything else i missed? 14:36 cait and tcohen asked about the utf-8 patches 14:36 cait i think those were covered - gmcharlt asked on the list about the meeting time (and set one) 14:35 cait #topic Actions from the last general meeting 14:35 BobB good one cait 14:35 cait ok? 14:35 cait #info Next steps about KohaCon15 and the Ibadan prosoal to be discussed at the next meeting 14:35 BobB I think that's about as firm as we can be at this stage 14:35 BobB to have further discussions with the Ibadan proposal? 14:34 cait ok, so what do we put in #action or #info? 14:33 BobB fwiw, the epidemic is not at all in Nigeria at this time 14:32 tcohen and make the concerns explicit, to hear from them 14:32 BobB yep, sounds like a way forward 14:32 tcohen we need to contact them 14:32 cait what i feel we should do is get a confirmation from them, if we don't have a vote 14:32 tcohen some concerns were raised about the current situation at Nigeria 14:32 cait I think we could wait another meeting, yes 14:31 reiveune bye 14:31 BobB Ibadan has offerred three times, so they do deserve to get it 14:31 tcohen can we discuss this later? 14:31 cait I am not sure how to proceed 14:31 BobB can we commit to West Africa just now? 14:31 wahanui comments are turned on 14:31 cait comments? 14:30 cait and that's make Nigeria the winner I think, since we didn't get an official application from Zambia 14:29 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon15_Proposals 14:29 cait that the deadline is over 14:29 cait my impression is 14:29 cait #topic KohaCon15 14:29 cait :) 14:28 tcohen done 14:28 tcohen #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Who_is_arriving_when 14:28 tcohen #info don't forget to post your arrival/departure time on the wiki 14:27 tcohen #info please confirm you're coming to Mel 14:27 cait :) 14:27 tcohen the sunday asado is already booked 14:26 tcohen (there's a nice mobile app) 14:26 tcohen and on EventBase 14:26 tcohen we are finishing (with bgkriegel) the schedule, that will be available on the website 14:25 BobB :) 14:25 tcohen that will be translated into english 14:25 BobB good for me, hope its OK for local people 14:25 tcohen there are several presentations in spanish 14:25 tcohen BobB: no 14:25 BobB tcohen will the conference be mostly in Spanish? 14:24 tcohen #info registrations are already closed (since friday) 14:24 cait ok 14:24 cait #action tcohen will finish the schedule now ;) 14:24 cait I think me and some others will try to tweet, blog and talk on IRC about what's going on 14:23 tcohen you wont let me finish the schedule, right? :-P 14:23 cait #topic KohaCon14 14:23 cait moving on? 14:23 cait :) 14:22 druthb tcohen++ 14:22 tcohen because we have some offices that give advisxe and take care of that matters 14:22 tcohen we are arranging things at the university 14:21 tcohen side note 14:21 cait #agreed the current draft will serve as code of conduct for now, but can be changed or amended at later meetings 14:21 tcohen +1 14:21 cait hm i think we lost tcohen 14:21 BobB +1 14:21 jmsasse +1 14:21 jwagner +1 14:20 jcamins +1 14:20 cait +1 14:20 cait i will also accept +-1 :) 14:20 oleonard Yes 14:19 cait please vote yes or no on the draft as a preliminary code of conduct with the option to amend and change it at later meetings now: 14:19 druthb +1 14:19 cait tcohen: would this be ok to you as the conf organizer? 14:18 jwagner +1 14:18 jmsasse +1 14:18 cait +1 14:17 jcamins +1 14:17 BobB ok +1 14:17 oleonard +1 to voting on the existing draft 14:16 cait and please all... ignore the typos 14:16 cait i know a vote about a vote is a bit silly, but I will ask anyway: Do you feel ok to vote on the existing draf in order to put something in place or rather wait for a ameneded version? 14:16 BobB not helpful, sorry 14:15 BobB I won't get time to study it until conference 14:15 cait BobB: so you'd rather wait voting on the existing draft? 14:15 jmsasse +1 14:15 BobB I support the concept 14:14 BobB I'm ill informed, sorry - hard to express a viewpoint 14:14 oleonard I've got no problem with that 14:14 cait what do people think? 14:14 jcamins #info Jared Camins-Esakov, C & P Bibliography Services 14:14 jcamins Not to belabor a dead horse, but why not vote on the code of conduct as it stands, and then allow for amendment at a future meeting if it passes? 14:14 cait i am not sure if going with 'something' now and refining later shoudln't be also considered 14:13 oleonard I would vote for the code of conduct based on my uninformed reading of it, but would be interested to hear opposing viewpoints 14:13 cait #info the discussion about the code of conduct will be postponed to next or a separate meeting 14:13 cait but you ar right oleonard, we will need to push it 14:12 BobB We can publish the draft for conference, I guess 14:12 BobB I agree its a good idea to have a code, I've not studied thomas' draft 14:12 cait we won't have one for the conf now :( 14:12 cait oleonard: only problem is 14:12 cait #link https://github.com/gmcharlt/koha-code-of-conduct/blob/master/code-of-conduct.md 14:12 oleonard With neither gmcharlt nor thd present to comment I think we push this to the next meeting 14:11 cait any ideas/comments? 14:11 cait I am not sureif that has happened - we may have to push this to next meeting or a separate one 14:10 cait there has been an email from thomas and i see that gmcharlt wanted to update the draft 14:10 cait #topic Code of conduct 14:10 cait ok, moving on then 14:09 cait anything else on releases? 14:09 cait gmcharlt has been pushing patches to 3.16 and is ee the strings got updated, so that's looking good 14:09 cait bgkriegel++ 14:09 cait nice :) 14:08 tcohen bgkriegel says soon, in a few minutes 14:08 cait tcohen: will there be an email to translators? 14:08 tcohen (3.14 still wip) 14:07 tcohen bgkriegel already updated strings for stable releases 14:07 tcohen that will be on the stable branches soon 14:07 tcohen we have a couple (minor) security patches pushed yesterday 14:07 cait hope to have those through qa soon 14:06 cait I am working on the Shibboleth paches with ashimema again 14:06 cait tcohen++ 14:05 cait gmcharlt: ? 14:05 tcohen right now :-D 14:05 tcohen we are finishing the preliminary programme for kohacon14 14:05 cait we will tie him to a chair at the hackfest ;) 14:05 tcohen that's is 14:05 tcohen #info RM is quite busy with kohacon stuff, but will keep the pace 14:04 cait where integration means kicking those templates out :) 14:04 tcohen #info we are close to start integrating CCSR/PROG deprecation 14:04 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Univeridad Nacional de Cordoba 14:03 cait as we have woken up tcohen now, let's start with 3.18 :) 14:03 cait #topic Update on releases 14:03 tcohen meetingª!!!!!! 14:03 cait lookig for announcements, but handing over to you in a moment 14:03 tcohen oh 14:03 tcohen whatsup? 14:03 tcohen hi cait 14:03 cait ok, I will jump to releases in that case :) 14:03 cait tcohen: ? 14:03 BobB :) 14:02 * cait hides the pumkin so noone makes soup of it 14:02 rambutan #info Greg Lawson Rolling Hills Consolidated Library 14:02 * BobB just turned into a pumpkin 14:02 cait announcements? :) 14:02 cait #topic Announcements 14:02 jmsasse Hi BobB! 14:02 BobB hi jmsasse ! 14:01 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart, BibLibre 14:01 jmsasse #info Joel Sasse Plum Creek 14:01 cait #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_24_September_2014 14:01 jwagner (only here for a short time, though) 14:01 jwagner #info Jane Wagner LibLime/PTFS 14:01 BobB #info Bob Birchall, Calyx 14:01 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 14:01 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries 14:01 cait please introduce yourself like wahanui by using #info 14:00 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 14:00 cait #topic Introductions 14:00 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting__24_september' 14:00 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00 huginn Meeting started Wed Sep 24 14:00:53 2014 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00 cait #startmeeting General IRC meeting, 24 September 14:00 BobB thx cait 14:00 jwagner go for it, cait 14:00 cait i could chair if people are ok with it? 14:00 cait no idea why i didn' find it 14:00 cait oh thx 14:00 BobB http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_24_September_2014 13:59 cait do we have no agenda for today? 13:59 BobB :) 13:59 cait BobB: see you soon :) 13:59 oleonard Hi BobB! Go to bed :) 13:59 cait lookig for the agenda 13:58 BobB but its midnight, so not sure how long I'll stay 13:58 BobB hi oleonard, I'm here 13:57 cait oleonard: hm i was not aware of the warning, but i guess itmight slow down things in some cases 13:57 tcohen hi 13:56 cait tcohen: ? 13:56 cait i am 13:55 oleonard Are ByWater folks all offline for a retreat as their tweet suggests? 13:55 rambutan I was gonna watch 13:55 oleonard Is anyone here for the meeting? 13:51 Marjorie oleonard: thanks 13:50 oleonard ...because we tell them not to. 13:48 cait Marjorie: sorry, not that i know of. I think thelog is for that, but people often don't have it activated 13:48 oleonard I can confirm that the log does record deletions if you have the CataloguingLog system preference enabled 13:47 Marjorie cait: if sys pref cataloguinglog is not activated, i suppose there is no other way to konw who deleted a biblio? 13:46 Marjorie cait: ok thanks 13:45 cait it's getting quite huge i think yes 13:44 oleonard ...which one is specifically advised against :| 13:44 cait Marjorie: if you use cataloguing logs maybe 13:44 cait oleonard: heh thx 13:43 * oleonard thinks it was cait 13:42 Marjorie Hi, is there a way to know who deleted a biblio? 13:27 cait i think i will just look for the 0 and use #tab_holdings 13:26 cait the \\ doesn't seemto work either 13:26 cait $("a:contains('Holdings')").remove(); < works... but as soon as i add to it... boom :( 13:24 cait will try 2 :) 13:24 cait hm i tried one 13:24 oleonard Did you try escaping with \\ ? 13:20 cait running out of ideas. 13:20 cait hm 13:20 * oleonard doesn't know 13:18 cait is there a way to escape the parentheses? 13:18 cait if i leave out the () it finds the string but not with them - but i only want to catch the case where it says 0... 13:18 cait :contains("Items ( 0 )") 13:17 cait oleonard: :) 13:17 cait another question - i am trying to look for a string with jquery that contians () - it doesn't seem to like that 13:17 * oleonard fears the merciless lash of QA 13:17 cait if you are ot sure how to do it maybe submit and we can then see about a test? 13:17 cait there are some examples for tets for the plugins 13:16 cait hm 13:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12982 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron category dropdown empty in header search form on patron entry page 13:13 oleonard ...as part of a fix for Bug 12982... 13:07 oleonard I'm trying adding a "getBorrowerCategories" sub to the Borrowers template plugin which simply returns C4::Category->all 13:06 cait oleonard: if you ask tcohen he will probably say yes... are you thinking of something specific? 13:01 oleonard Do new template plugin functions require tests? 12:14 vfernandes the problem it that i can't have two <xslo:template mode="index_subfields" match="marc:datafield[@tag='942']"> in the same file :D 12:14 cait :) 12:13 vfernandes cait it's resolved :D 12:10 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/MRenvoize/zebra 12:10 cait vfernandes: i haven't worked much mit dom so far, there is a good site on the wiki about it 12:08 vfernandes cait can you see the paste? 12:07 pastebot "vfernandes" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "942$n" (61 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/226 12:05 vfernandes yes... i will put on paste 12:05 cait and just added another field to the index? 12:05 vfernandes yes 12:05 cait you reindexed? 12:05 cait hm but not sure what might have gone wrong 12:05 vfernandes cait i think that biblio-zebra-indexdefs and biblio-koha-indexdefs are correct 12:04 cait record.abs is not important then 12:00 vfernandes yes 11:59 cait vfernandes: are you using DOM? 11:59 cait in 2 hours! 11:59 cait yep it is :) 11:58 oleonard That's today, folks! 11:57 vfernandes located? 11:57 vfernandes where the zebra database is locked? 11:55 oleonard Hi #koha 11:52 vfernandes how to correct this? 11:50 vfernandes with yaz-client the index isn't being created 11:49 vfernandes but still no results 11:49 vfernandes i've changed record.abs, biblio-zebra-indexdefs anda biblio-koha-indexdefs to index 942$c 11:48 vfernandes so records with no items aren't returned in itemtypes searches 11:48 vfernandes one little problem: with UNIMARC, koha 3.14 isn't indexing 942$c which is the itemtype 11:47 vfernandes hi :D 10:37 magnuse "are trying" perhaps? 10:32 paxed "The order line you trying to cancel was created from a partial receipt of " ...sounds rather ungrammatical. 10:22 cait i wonder if we could stop zebra from treating # and + as breaking characters.. (space) and if that would fix it... but not sure about side effects 10:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9729 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Unable to use IT search terms such as C#, .NET, C++ in searching 10:22 cait i am pondering bug 9729 10:22 * cait waves 08:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12955 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , The budget list always shows my funds 08:55 magnuse bug 12955 08:43 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 08:43 Joubu @later tell gmcharlt If you didn't release 3.16.X yet, could you have a look at bug 12955 please? A trivial patch fixes a quite important bug. 08:17 paxed typo "Merllisia Manueli", should probably be "Merllissia Manueli" 07:35 dcook :D* 07:35 dcook "D 07:32 mtj ...and dcook, thanks for the brainslap guys 07:30 mtj aah, ok - makes sense rangi :) 07:30 rangi its really all you can do 07:28 dcook Certainly nicer than deleting on delete 07:28 rangi mtj: CONSTRAINT `old_issues_ibfk_1` FOREIGN KEY (`borrowernumber`) REFERENCES `borrowers` (`borrowernumber`) ON DELETE SET NULL ON UPDATE SET NULL, 07:27 rangi they will be deleted borrowers 07:27 dcook ^ 07:27 rangi mtj: its the cascades on the foreign keys 07:26 dcook salut Joubu 07:24 Joubu hi 07:24 dcook The photos all look gorgeous so far 07:24 dcook mtj: I'm glad you like the greece idea ^_^ 07:23 dcook which was... lovely 07:23 dcook The boss found out last night that optimizing a MariaDB 5.5.33 will reset the auto_increment in a table to max(id)+1 07:23 dcook Not sure if there's a FK to the borrowers table 07:23 dcook mtj: I suppose you might get an old_issues row with NULL when you delete that borrower? 07:22 paxed "Lambert's conformal conict" typo, should be "conic" 07:20 mtj dcook: i like your greece idea :p 07:20 magnuse kia ora mtj 07:19 mtj hmm, its got me a bit stumped... 07:18 mtj for the logs, i just confirmed that doesnt seem to happen ^^ 07:18 mtj hiya magnuse 07:11 magnuse dcook: there were 1 or 2 people from greece at the last hackfest in marseille 07:10 mtj or poss. returning/checking-in a non-issued item, creates a row with no borrower? 07:07 mtj surely thats some horrible bug, yes? 07:06 mtj hey peeps, can anyone think of a sane reason why a koha would have many old_issues rows, with NULL borrnum values? 07:02 dcook You could say it's a delayed honeymoon from our wedding last year 07:01 * dcook is getting pretty amped 07:01 dcook Just two more sleeps... 06:59 dcook \o/ 06:59 rangi there already are quite a few 06:58 * dcook thinks some libraries in Greece should adopt Koha... then Koha 2016 in Greece.. 06:57 dcook I think I need a longer holiday :p 06:57 dcook Holy... just looked at one of the hotels where I'll be staying on Crete 06:55 alex_a bonjour 06:32 magnuse piwik++ 06:32 reiveune hello 06:23 cait morning all :) 06:18 paul_p kia ora magnuse & dcook &others. 06:08 magnuse kia ora cait and paul_p 06:08 magnuse dcook: nice 06:05 dcook and paul_p :) 06:05 dcook morning cait :) 06:04 cait mrning 06:00 dcook Mostly the south :). Greece, Switzerland, and Italy 06:00 magnuse whereabouts in europe? 06:00 magnuse gah! 05:57 dcook All the travel! 05:57 dcook Not too much. Trying to get ready for Europe and trying to get ready for OSDC as it happens the week after I get back :S 05:56 magnuse wassup dcook 05:55 dcook yo magnuse 05:48 * magnuse waves 03:29 eythian b) uploading new master packages 03:29 eythian a) it's nice to have master building again 03:26 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 03:25 wahanui http://33.media.tumblr.com/b3425d8454fa56c1d559458d655170ed/tumblr_nbrpcsI8m21sc9rdlo1_r2_400.gif 03:25 mtompset go back to bed? 02:53 wizzyrea go back to bed is <reply> http://33.media.tumblr.com/b3425d8454fa56c1d559458d655170ed/tumblr_nbrpcsI8m21sc9rdlo1_r2_400.gif 02:52 eythian go back to bed. 02:52 eythian hi cait 02:52 eythian yeah, an addition to it would be something that allows the webserver to push it through, that way we could style things based on domain a bit easier. 02:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12162 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Add class="branchcode" to body tag to make OPAC CSS-styleable per branch 02:51 wizzyrea I'm pretty excited about bug 12162 02:49 wizzyrea oh hey that would be cool. 02:49 eythian Should just make a module that provides all the basic behaviours by default. 02:49 wizzyrea that one needs to be fixed, actually, to not work the way it does. 02:48 wizzyrea on the script. 02:48 wizzyrea well that and try --help 02:48 martin_ where can I find documentation on things like this --> here -- LOL 02:48 eythian wizzyrea: yes, I was just thinking that. 02:48 wizzyrea is that force messaging defaults one 02:48 martin_ okay - now I owe $2 02:48 wizzyrea eythian: an example of a script that doesn't explicitly tell you what's happening when you just run it 02:48 martin_ mhuwhahahahah - it worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 02:47 martin_ oops 02:47 martin_ oh crud - nope 02:47 wizzyrea borrowers-force-messaging-defaults --doit 02:47 wizzyrea did you run it with --doit? 02:45 martin_ I was trying to update all existing borrowers on my live server - probably not a good idea, but I have no choice - this thing just went live 2 weeks ago 02:44 wizzyrea for the borrower category of the borrower you are testing with? 02:44 martin_ only for one borrower category - "student" 02:44 martin_ yes - 1 day, etc. 02:44 wizzyrea per borrower category? 02:44 wizzyrea you have the messaging defaults set? 02:44 martin_ hmm - thing didn't do it 02:43 wizzyrea shouldn't, once you set the defaults you run the tool to update the borrowers 02:43 martin_ patron categories? I did that - do I need to turn enhanced notices off first, and then back on? 02:42 wizzyrea More -> Administration -> Borrower Categories 02:41 wizzyrea yep, then in the borrower categories 02:41 martin_ nah - I meant the date of the advanced notice 02:39 wizzyrea the content of the notice 02:39 wizzyrea or do you mean the notice itself 02:39 martin_ thanks! 02:39 martin_ ah - okay - I'll have to look at it again 02:39 wizzyrea and then run the script to apply the defaults to all users. 02:39 wizzyrea you set the default in the borrower categories 02:39 martin_ do I need to edit the script? 02:39 martin_ question about my previous question - it all got reset, but how do I globally update the advanced notice to what I want it to be for all users? 02:38 martin_ yeah - I think I'm learning that now 02:38 * mtompset nods in agreement with wizzyrea's suggestion. 02:38 wizzyrea honestly, one should never bang their head against a Koha problem for more than an hour or two before popping up here. 02:37 mtompset http://youtu.be/nqAvFx3NxUM -- All Night Long (Lionel Richie) 02:37 wizzyrea visit early, visit often ;) 02:37 * mtompset smirks, "Musical flashback!" 02:35 martin_ I'm glad you all are here - I've been beating my head against the wall with this all day long 02:35 mtompset Yes, I need to finish all my thank you letters still. 02:35 martin_ LOL 02:35 wahanui i think mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. 02:35 martin_ hey mtompset! 02:35 wizzyrea hi mtompset 02:34 mtompset Greetings, martin_. :) 02:34 mtompset Greetings, wizzyrea! 02:33 wizzyrea anytime :) 02:32 martin_ thanks so much ! 02:32 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 02:32 martin_ I couldn't find instructions anywhere 02:32 martin_ yup 02:32 wizzyrea yep yw :) 02:32 martin_ Thanks! 02:32 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, martin_ 02:32 martin_ awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 02:30 wizzyrea and then try running it 02:30 wizzyrea I mean 02:30 wizzyrea sudo koha-shell instancename 02:30 martin_ ok 02:30 martin_ it's been a few months now, and it's a production server 02:30 wizzyrea ok, then try doing a sudo koha-shell 02:30 martin_ think 02:30 martin_ yes - I htink I did 02:30 martin_ ah - let me check 02:30 wizzyrea meaning, did you install with packages? 02:29 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 02:29 wizzyrea packages? 02:29 martin_ Ubuntu Server Edition 02:29 martin_ I'm running on a VPS 02:29 wizzyrea how did you install? 02:29 martin_ at /usr/share/koha/C4 02:28 martin_ unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml 02:28 * cjh whistles innocently 02:28 wizzyrea what were the messages? 02:28 wizzyrea haha 02:28 martin_ hey - does anyone know how to updated the "advanced notices" for all patrons - I tried to run borrowers-force-messages-default (a script) but received error messages 02:27 huginn rangi: 1 found: #250: "<cjh> This code smells of wine." 02:27 rangi @quote search wine 02:27 rangi :) 02:27 wnickc good night all, no more testing once I finish my bourbon :-) 02:27 rangi cool 02:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12983 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Links to view imported record MARC have invalid target "javascript:void(0)" 02:27 wnickc bug 12983 02:26 wnickc thanks everyone 02:23 wizzyrea yeah I see that too, in 3.16.3 02:21 rangi right, seems like a bug thats crept in recentish .. cool, if you report it saying that its broken in 3.16 and master, but works at 3.14 02:20 wnickc works fine in 3.14.x 02:20 mtj wnickc: perhaps a js cache bug yr browser ? 02:19 rangi id report it anyway, with as much info as you have 02:17 rangi you could try 3.14.x too, if its still doing it there .. then it's more likely to do with something peculair to you 02:16 wnickc okey doke, any more due diligence I can/should do before filing? 02:15 rangi know = no 02:15 rangi shouldnt need to know 02:15 wnickc I am still seeing it, unless I need to do something more complicated than 'git checkout 3.16.x' 02:15 mtj also... those docos look great! 02:12 wnickc good call, let me see 02:11 rangi that would narrow it down 02:11 rangi you could try checking out the 3.16.x branch and see if it works on there 02:11 wizzyrea yeah it'd about have to be. 02:11 rangi hmm probably something that has snuck in recently 02:10 wnickc I saw it on my VM, replicated on biblibre sandbox 02:10 wizzyrea mmm haven't seen that 02:10 wnickc and chrome 02:09 rangi sounds like a bug, but i havent heard it reported before 02:09 wnickc firefox 02:09 rangi and what browser? 02:09 wnickc master 02:08 rangi what version wnickc ? 02:08 wnickc all my links to view imported marc are javascript:void(0) 02:08 wnickc is there a known bug on the 'Manage staged records' page, or am I doing something wrong? 02:07 mtj very exciting SKA news, rangi 02:07 rangi yeah thats a great movie too 02:06 wnickc hello 02:06 mtj hi all 02:03 wnickc reminds me of this: http://youtu.be/CjnfoFg7i7g 01:55 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp_Tl3yhjuA 01:19 wizzyrea ha! 01:19 wizzyrea it was yum 01:19 rangi yum 01:19 wizzyrea oh I had one of those! 01:19 rangi this one has salted caramel in it! 01:18 wizzyrea the girls at the sweet stand do make pretty awesome coffee 01:17 dcook hehe 01:14 rangi i like the use of large there :) 01:14 rangi https://catalyst.net.nz/show-and-tell/news/kiwi-companies-forefront-ska 01:14 dcook :P 01:13 eythian dcook: have you ensured you'll have the facility and schedule to be on #koha during the au/nz daytime? 01:12 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 01:12 dcook @later tell tcohen Yeppers. Greece, Switzerland, and Italy. 01:11 tcohen bye #koha 01:11 tcohen dinner is ready 01:06 tcohen dcook: greece? 01:03 * dcook is nervous and excited at the same time 01:03 dcook So it may or may not happen 01:03 rangi mmmm this coffee is awesome 01:03 dcook Well, I leave for holidays in... 2 more days 01:03 dcook :D 01:01 tcohen still need some unimarc-er to test, so no rush :-D 01:00 tcohen because it is not only facet retrieval, but also XSL generation 01:00 tcohen i meant to say tht way you could test more of the functionality 00:59 tcohen hey dcook 00:54 dcook :p 00:54 dcook And he's gone 00:54 dcook I would love to add some facets for fixed field data as well 00:49 tcohen :-D 00:49 tcohen reindex, test 00:49 tcohen regen the xsl, add a record with a and b subfields for 100 00:48 wizzyrea :) 00:48 tcohen when you have some spare minutes: add another subfield to a facet definition (say field 100 subfields="ab") 00:45 dcook It might have to wait :/ 00:44 dcook Oh nose 00:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12937 [Follow-up] Deleting suggestions should ask for a confirmation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=755655a42a2621c86fe3d171564401fd929c28cd> / Bug 12937: Deleting suggestions should ask for a confirmation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b5c0966bbb600b6927fa04edcb1691a794f38f6> / Bug 12876: (followup) remove useless diags <http://git.koha-community.org/ 00:32 tcohen dcook: i need you to do another test on the zebra facet patches 00:32 tcohen hi dcook 00:23 dcook [off] wizzyrea: "Developer: Liz Rea, Catalyst IT, and David Cook, Prosentient, for Horowhenua Library Trust" D'aww