Time Nick Message 00:00 schuster I know Washington school district put some stuff out there but I don't think it was pulled in. Guess I'll see what Galen remembers and we'll go from there. 00:00 chris yep, its not in git 00:00 chris it would need to be reformated and resubmitted 00:00 chris from those patches attached to that bug 00:02 schuster Once again phewie. 00:02 schuster Thank for looking. 00:05 schuster http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A--Koha--sound-cues-td20482941.html#a20484505 - this was the post found on the lists from Michael Hafen. 00:07 schuster http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-sound-cues%2C-plus-receipt-printing-td20418462.html#a20433138 - here's another listing for development - guess I can check with that library. 00:08 chris good idea 00:12 chris for 3.4 id like to get better visibility on patches waiting to be applied 00:18 pianohacker chris++ 00:18 chris even if its just a directory of them 00:19 chris we'll figure something out 00:46 brendan cya in a while #koha 02:37 chris_n2 'evening 03:21 Amit hi brendan, chris, richard 03:21 Amit good morning #koha 03:21 brendan hi amit 03:21 richard amit, hi 03:21 richard and brendan 03:21 richard and chris_n2 03:23 chris_n2 hi Amit, brendan, richard 03:23 Amit hi chris_n2 03:42 pianohacker @later tell owen I've removed the reference to collapsed.gif in the sysprefs editor, and replaced expanded.gif with more.gif for the time being 03:42 munin pianohacker: The operation succeeded. 03:42 pianohacker good night, #koha 04:49 Amit @wunder bangalore 04:49 munin Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 21.0�C (8:30 AM IST on November 05, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. 05:25 brendan goodnight #koha 06:52 ftherese morning! 06:59 ftherese when I try to add a marc record from the reservoir to the catalog, it tells me some really funny things about what needs to be filled out... like tag 036$b, which corresponds to the movement # of a musical composition... why does that have to be filled in? 07:00 Amit hi ftherese 07:02 ftherese hello... 07:02 ftherese any ideas why it is requireing the musical movement number? 07:04 ftherese and it requires the type of scale too?? but these are not maps!! 07:05 ftherese hmmmm... 07:29 ftherese I still don't understand why I can't import my records from the reservoir into the catalog!! 07:57 |Lupin| hello 07:57 ftherese hello :) 07:57 ftherese I am still having trouble importing my records past the reservoir 07:58 ftherese says I should have some fields filled in like musical composition # and other random stuff like map scale type etc. 07:59 |Lupin| ftherese: I'm afraid I can't help right now 07:59 ftherese that's cool 08:23 |Lupin| has anyone experience with the save method of the CGI module, please ? 08:24 |Lupin| I called it to save a query object, expecting it to save everything including cookies, but apparently it did not.. 08:24 |Lupin| anyone know s how to achieve this ? 08:43 jan anyone know why a checkin can lead to an empty 'current location'? We have one branch (one library) and i have set it in the staff client .. 08:53 jan (i'm sorry it's not about the topic) 08:54 |Lupin| jan: don't know, sorry 09:01 jan the error: [error] [client 130.145.169.252] [Thu Nov 5 09:59:04 2009] renewscript.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Column 'tobranch' cannot be null at /home/koha/site/lib/C4/Items.pm line 530, <DATA> line 253., referer: http://olympia:8080/cgi-bin/koha/members/moremember.pl?borrowernumber=53 09:02 jan after that some uninitialized value errors 09:58 |Lupin| wow... 09:58 |Lupin| does not look very normal ifyou didn't do trichy things 10:03 jan the only tricky things i do is is using auth_with_ldap .... really, we want to be as standard as possible 10:04 jan and our mysql server is an external one .... 10:05 jan external as in "no localhost" 10:07 jan and i tried also a mysql server on localhost: no difference 10:10 jan koha@olympia:~/source$ git describe 10:10 jan v3.00.04_fixed 10:43 |Lupin| jan: I don't knon what to say, I'm sorry 10:43 jan thanks anyway 10:44 |Lupin| Colin: do you know the CGI module a bit ? 10:44 |Lupin| Colin: hi, btw :) 10:44 Colin hi a bit not too deeply 10:48 |Lupin| Colin: I'm dumping the $query object to disk before and after the call to get_template_and_user 10:49 |Lupin| Colin: in the dump before the call the CGISESSIONID cookie does not appear, whereas it appears in he dump done after the call. 10:49 |Lupin| Colin: I'm wondering why this is so... 10:54 Colin Not sure why. get_template_and_user reads it early on (in checkauth) 10:58 Colin CGI::Session is a sepate object Might be worth checking the CGI::Session perldoc 10:58 |Lupin| Colin: yeah I read the code... 10:59 |Lupin| Colin: actually, my concern is that I would like to be able to re-play a script from the command-line to debug it, any idea how I could do that ? 11:00 |Lupin| Colin: actually I thought it was enough to store the input object on disk and to then retrieve it, but apparently, it's not enough... 11:03 Colin I think I've seen Galen mention a way but I've not done it myself 11:06 |Lupin| Colin: was that on IRC ? 11:06 Colin I think in the CGI the session cookie is CGISESSID 11:07 Colin Yws I think it was on IRC 11:07 |Lupin| Colin: yeah I know CGISESSID, but knowing that is I think not enough... 11:07 Colin Yws/Yes 11:11 Colin If you put everything in a QUERY_STRING=field=value textfile and feed that as stdin to the script it fails on the session stuff? 11:16 gmcharlt Colin, |Lupin| : you have to set all of the same environment variables that the Apache CGI runner does 11:16 gmcharlt a common trick is to print the contents of %ENV to a file 11:17 gmcharlt munge into a script to set the environment variables 11:17 gmcharlt then include that as part of running the CGI script from the command-line 11:17 gmcharlt in particular, CGI::Session wants to be able to use things like SERVER_NAME 11:18 Colin Galen ex machina - thanks 11:18 chris_n2_ g'morning #koha 11:19 Colin morning 11:19 |Lupin| gmcharlt: and you have to store stdin in a file from within the script to fetch all headers and then run the script from the command line with its stdin redirected to that file ? 11:19 |Lupin| hi chris_n2_ 11:20 |Lupin| it's too bad there is no helper script to achieve this... 11:20 gmcharlt |Lupin|: yes, if the script is accepting POSTed content 11:21 gmcharlt if it's just looking at QUERY_STRING, then you don't need to bother passing stuff to it via STDIN, just set the environment variables 11:21 |Lupin| gmcharlt: my concern is the cookies... and yes the one I'd like to debug is virtualshelves/addbybiblionumber.pl which for some reason does not display the drop-down menu of existing shelves... 11:23 |Lupin| gmcharlt: I'm talking about HEAD. On our system this drop-down is not displayed although the uer is owner of the shelf and superlibrarian... 11:37 hdl jan: you might have to look at your CircControl System preference and see if it is PuickupLibrary 11:37 hdl jan: PickupLibrary 11:37 chris_n2_ hdl:? 11:38 hdl chris_n2_? 11:38 chris_n2_ opps, I see 11:38 * chris_n2_ goes off for more coffee :-) 11:40 jan hdl, it's ItemHomeLibrary at the moment (the default) 11:41 hdl Do you have HomeOrHoldingBranch set ? 11:41 jan let me check 11:42 jan it's set to HoldingBranch 11:47 jan independantBranches is OFF 11:50 hdl Do your items all have Holdingbranch ? 11:51 hdl Or do you only use homebranch ? 11:51 jan yes, field 952a if i'm correct 11:51 jan and 952b is the homebranch 11:51 jan both set 11:52 jan when a item is checkedin the 952b field is lost 11:55 magnusenger hm, i need to update a lot of items to correct two errors from the migration (change the value in 952$c and add 952$y). Is there a good way to do this? (Export records, update records, import updated records replacing old records (including items) with new ones.) 11:56 magnusenger my plan was to stage the updated records, but it looks like this may not work for the items: "Right now, if a match is found, it completely replaces the existing record (keeping items intact, of course)." http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.2/administration/catalog-administration/record-matching-rules 11:59 |Lupin| see you later all 12:58 Nate morning 13:00 jwagner Morning, Nate 13:00 Nate hi jwagner! 13:01 ftherese any ideas why koha requires certain fields before it will import? Fields such as 036$b 100$a 101$a 122$a 123$a 127$a 615$9 700$a 710$a 801(any) ? 13:03 ftherese some of them seem really odd, and are not even provied with a z39 search 13:13 hdl Hi Nate 13:13 Nate hey hdl 13:43 owen Hi #koha 13:44 * owen loves getting messages from munin 13:45 * jdavidb hands munin a cookie. 13:46 jdavidb @quote random 13:46 munin jdavidb: Quote #15: "<|Lupin|>ricardo: you are like the Portuguese Hitchcock!!" (added by wizzyrea at 10:58 AM, July 10, 2009) 13:46 * chris_n greets owen && jdavidb 13:47 jdavidb Hi, chris_n and owen! 13:47 chris_n someone said "cookie" 13:47 * jdavidb offers one to chris_n, too. 13:49 jwagner I want a cookie..... 13:49 jdavidb I've a whole box full, sitting here on my desk... 13:50 jwagner And I'm working from home and can't get to them :-( THE UNIVERSE IS NOT FAIR! 13:50 owen And here I thought jwagner would be able to put jdavidb's statements to a fact-check 13:50 jdavidb All's fair in love, war, and cookies (Something got lost in translation, somewhere.) 13:50 owen I've got cookies too! Lots of them! 13:51 * chris_n looks around for his quantum teleporter 13:51 jwagner Well, he SAYS he brought them in, but I was wondering if owen had followed through on the threat about six dozen cookies in exchange for bug hunting. 13:51 jdavidb Someone else needs to come eat these; if they sit here, I will, and that's Not Good For Me. 13:52 jwagner Feed some to David and Jeetika when they come in :-) 13:52 jdavidb yeeeesssss.... 13:52 owen chris_n: If you really had a quantum teleporter there would be companies crawling out of the woodwork with patent lawsuits. "We invented that. We just didn't, you know, make anything with it." 13:54 |Lupin| hi again 13:54 chris_n owen: sadly so 13:54 jwagner A time machine would be worse in that regard, owen. 13:55 * chris_n wonders if M$ would be at the front of the line or SCO... 13:55 |Lupin| gmcharlt: around ? 13:56 gmcharlt hi |Lupin| 13:56 |Lupin| gmcharlt: I think I have found a bug in the virtualshelves code... 13:57 |Lupin| gmcharlt: hmm but maybe it's too early to tell you and I should first see who did change the affected code... 13:58 |Lupin| gmcharlt: sorry to have disturbed you, I'll continue to investigate and report only when I have something precise enough 13:59 gmcharlt no problem 14:02 |Lupin| actually 14:02 |Lupin| is someone here running HEAD ? 14:03 owen Yes 14:03 |Lupin| owen: cool 14:03 |Lupin| owen: would you please accept to create a public list 14:03 |Lupin| owen: and then go to a record and try to add it to that list 14:04 |Lupin| owen: I'd like to know if the public list appears in the drop-down of existing shelves, please 14:04 owen Should I use the same user to add to the list as created it? 14:05 |Lupin| owen: if it's a pblic one you have to I would say 14:06 owen It does NOT appear in the list of existing shelves! 14:06 |Lupin| owen: it's only for _open_ lists that the two users can be different I think 14:06 |Lupin| owen: yep ! 14:06 |Lupin| owen: you have found a bug, congratulations :) 14:06 owen |Lupin|: It looks like it's only offering to let you add to private lists, not *any* list you've created. 14:06 owen You mean confirmed, not found ;) 14:07 |Lupin| owen: It would probably also offer to add to open lists, if you would have some 14:07 |Lupin| owen: confirmed, found... js small semantic difference 14:09 owen |Lupin|: This is obviously not a recent bug. Our production system, which hasn't been updated for several months, shows the same behavior. 14:14 |Lupin| owen: ah thanks, so I will stop to looking for recent changes in git log... 14:15 |Lupin| owen: the code in C4/VirtualsShelves.pm is really ugly... 14:16 |Lupin| fixing will probably require several modifications at several places... 14:17 owen If you'd like to rewrite the whole thing, I've got a few things on my wish list... ;) 14:21 |Lupin| owen: I would like but I won't... but I certainly agree that the whole thing would diserve to be rewritten 14:22 * owen is busy rewriting some bad PHP code, replacing it with slightly less bad PHP code 14:24 jdavidb "Our life is frittered away by detail. Simplify, simplify!" --Henry David Thoreau 14:27 owen jdavidb: What about frittering away life by trying to simplify, simplify PHP code? 14:27 jwagner I think any kind of code qualifies as "detail" myself. 14:28 * jdavidb writes a new Zen circ page: <html><body>Why would you want to circulate this item? </body></html> 14:31 jdavidb V 2.0: <html><body>What's the sound of an item circulating?</body></html> 14:33 |Lupin| V3rc1: <html><body>What's the sound circulation?</body></html> 14:34 |Lupin| V3rc2: <html><body>What's the sound of circulation?</body></html> 14:34 * jdavidb clasps his hands together, and bows silently to |Lupin|. 14:34 jwagner V4rc1: <html><body>What does circulation sound like?</body></html> 14:38 Ropuch Looks like new microblogging engine: htmlitter 14:38 Ropuch ;> 14:40 |Lupin| jdavidb: you probably know this one: what's the sound of one single hand clapping ? 14:41 jdavidb That's an easy one. Turn on any convenient recorder. Clap with one hand. Play back the result. 14:42 jwagner I thought it was a slap in the face? 14:45 owen jwagner: You must be fun at yoga class! 14:46 |Lupin| owen: I really don't know how to fix this thing at the moment... 14:48 owen Some things take some pondering 14:49 reiko hi 14:50 |Lupin| owen: yeah... I think I'll try to modify just the addbybiblionumber script to be sure the modifications do not break something that works 14:57 reiko i'm using koha 3.0.0.1 and i was having ERROR 114 when searching authorities. Then i read that a fix was needed to change Heading-main to Heading in AuthoritiesMarc.pm and it worked. 14:58 reiko but 14:58 reiko BIBLIOTECA 14:58 reiko Enter authority heading ($a): 14:58 reiko when i set a different authority heading 14:58 reiko it gives me another 114 14:58 reiko some work, others dont 14:58 * chris_n occasionally finds it is helpful to be editing the right file if he expects to fix a bug :-P 14:59 reiko well i think i was editing the right one, it started working for authors and author entities 14:59 owen chris_n: I once spent I don't know how long trying to fix a bug with opac-detail.tmpl before I realized I was looking at it with XSLT ON. 14:59 chris_n sorry reiko, my pondering was not aimed at you.. :-) 14:59 reiko but for editors and descriptors it doesn't work 14:59 reiko aaa 15:00 chris_n owen: lol 15:12 brendan morning all 15:13 owen Hi brendan 15:13 brendan goodmorning owen 15:17 |Lupin| owen: I stupidly removed the last messages from bug-trackit-daemon without looking at them... did you already submit the bug ? 15:17 owen Yes. Bug 3770 15:17 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3770 normal, P5, ---, Sebastien.Hinderer@snv.jussieu.fr, NEW, 'Add to list' page does only offers the choice of adding to private lists 15:18 owen Complete with my typo in the title, I see. "does only?" Blah. 15:18 |Lupin| owen: ah open lists don't work either ? 15:19 owen Actually I'm wrong: open lists do work properly. 15:19 owen I'm offered the option of adding to an open list. 15:19 |Lupin| owen: yeah .. 15:20 * owen tends to overlook open lists because he doesn't like them :P 15:20 |Lupin| owen: the code is really weird, there is a mincategory which assumes that one always want to search shelves in a category >= to something, but it does not seem very relevant... 15:21 |Lupin| owen: actually I'm sorry I told you to assing to me because it looks far too difficult with respect to my Koha skills and time.. 15:22 owen Easily changed. 15:22 |Lupin| owen: oh thanks. 15:23 |Lupin| Perhaps if I suddenly have a briliant idea I can submit something, bu that would surprise me. 15:24 |Lupin| owen: and actually there is a trick to over come the bug: make the list private, add the items, and make it public again... can you please see if that works for you ? 15:26 owen yes, it's a reasonable workaround, although convoluted if you just want to add to an existing public list 15:26 |Lupin| owen: btw, there are two terms I think to designate the same thing: virtual shelves and lists. Is one obsolete or are the two used in Koha ? 15:27 |Lupin| owen: yeah... 15:27 owen virtual shelves is the out-of-favor term 15:27 owen The term "lists" was chosen because it was thought to be less confusing for general users. 15:29 owen Other sites like Amazon and WorldCat use the "lists" term 15:34 |Lupin| owen: I see, thanks for the historical background 15:37 reiko does anyone know why authority search works for 2 auth types and not for the rest ? 15:50 reiko when i search authorities using the atribute @attr "1=Any" it gives error 114, is it normal for MARC21? 16:01 |Lupin| reiko: no, can't help, sorry 16:09 reiko ok, |Lupin| thank you 16:34 owen Hi pianohacker 16:34 pianohacker Hi, owen 16:34 pianohacker How are you doing? 16:35 nahuel hi both ! 16:35 nahuel :) 16:35 owen Hi nahuel 16:35 nahuel what's up ? 16:35 owen I'm wrestling with some jquery for a non-Koha project at the moment 16:35 pianohacker hi, nahuel 16:35 nahuel hehe 16:35 chris_n hi pianohacker 16:35 nahuel hi jesse ! 16:36 pianohacker hi chris_n 16:36 * pianohacker is studying american history 16:36 chris_n and nahuel 16:36 pianohacker endless, endless fun 16:36 nahuel :) 16:37 |Lupin| hey jesse ! 16:37 |Lupin| hi nahuel 16:37 |Lupin| pianohacker: american history... short topic no ? 16:38 owen |Lupin|: :P 16:38 nahuel hi |Lupin| 16:38 pianohacker |Lupin|: ahh, but they have a talent for dragging it out 16:38 owen Yeah, even if the history is shorter, they'll just make you learn it in more detail. 16:38 pianohacker yup 16:38 nahuel |Lupin|, didn't had the courage to say it :p 16:38 owen :) 16:39 gmcharlt the main lesson I learned from American history class in high school is that time apparently stopped after the Civil War 16:40 * pianohacker is also reading Lies My Teacher Told Me - scathing review of the accuracy of most us history textbooks 16:40 owen subversive! Are you heckling your teacher with it? 16:40 pianohacker owen: she actually suggested it :) 16:41 pianohacker our text is better than most, from what I can tell 16:42 jwagner I'm an historian by training, but by the time I got through grad school I was so sick of it that it was YEARS before I could read history for the fun of it again. Something about a classroom setting, I guess. It's much more fun to just read at random. 16:42 jwagner When I was working in Boston, I read my way through the history stacks of the Cambridge Public Library. Great fun! 16:42 pianohacker jwagner: wow, a grad school education in history? You are a brave, brave woman 16:43 |Lupin| :) 16:43 owen And she learned from it: She hasn't started any wars since then. 16:43 jwagner The degree is in International Affairs, actually. I had dreams of the State Department then.... 16:43 jwagner owen, don't be too sure about that. What I learned was to cover your trail :-) 16:43 pianohacker owen: None that we know about 16:44 jwagner But my favorite periods to study are U.S. Civil War and World War II. Hmmmmmm...... 16:45 * |Lupin| is interested in WW II, too 16:45 |Lupin| it's strange... kind of a fascination.. 16:46 |Lupin| that being said 16:46 |Lupin| I'm sorry to say that but 16:46 |Lupin| I think you are all _so_ lucky to be able to read just any book you want 16:47 |Lupin| I think not being able to do so is perhaps my biggest frustratio 16:47 * pianohacker looks around awkwardly, shuffles feet 16:47 |Lupin| hmm not sure this is good to say for the atmosphere of this channel but could'nt privent from doing so, sorry guys :) 16:47 jwagner |Lupin|, my sympathy. I can guess that there are a limited number of titles available in Braille or Books On Tape. 16:48 |Lupin| pianohacker: no but I've found a trick to live with that: all the books I'd like to read I offer to friends. Rather efficient technique... 16:49 |Lupin| jwagner: yeah... but compters tend to change that. There are many negociations with publishers so hat they provide their files to so-called trusted intermediaries, which in turn make them available to print-disalbed persons in a way that tries to be secured... 16:49 |Lupin| http://www.daisy.org 16:50 jwagner Do the Project Gutenberg books get fed into that? There are so MANY titles available there. 16:50 pianohacker |Lupin|: and I'm betting that their DRM is, of course, totally foolproof and not at all problematic 16:51 |Lupin| jwagner: I don't know but in a way it's not crucial: they are already accessible: you can just download them and read them with yor favourite browser 16:51 jwagner I found I got sore shoulders and crowded luggage from trying to haul enough books along to last through a vacation, so I was going to buy one of the electronic book readers. Then I found that the Sony E-Reader software could be installed on any computer, and a netbook was only a couple of pounds heavier. So now my travel machine has upwards of 160 book titles, plus music, plus some videos, plus network access.. 16:51 |Lupin| jwagner: also, these books are in the public domain. NOt saying they are not interesting, just saying that there are som many books under copyright which Guenberg doesn't cover 16:52 jwagner |Lupin|, yes, I know that the current stuff isn't available yet. But I've found enough that is free to last through a couple of trips so far. I haven't yet ventured into buying current titles. 16:53 |Lupin| jwagner: but in which format do you download the books ? 16:53 |Lupin| jwagner: ah you read books in the pub domain, ok 16:53 pianohacker I should actually checkout for now and focus on my much-maligned history text, see you all later :) 16:53 |Lupin| there are also many sites that have books recorded inMP3 16:54 |Lupin| hmm, hope it's not because of me he is running away... 16:54 jwagner The Sony .lrf format -- see http://www.mobileread.com/forums/ebooks.php?order=desc&sort=dateline -- they have several formats 16:56 |Lupin| jwagner: I assume it's proprietary ? 16:57 jwagner The reader software is, but it's free. See http://ebookstore.sony.com/google-ebooks/ -- you can download & run the software without buying any of the titles. 16:58 jwagner I don't know if it would work for you -- don't think it has accessibility features. But I really like it. I wasn't sure about trying to read electronic books, and I'd still rather hold the real thing. But you can't beat it for traveling. 17:00 |Lupin| jwagner: yeah it's good that the soft is cost-free, but it's not the same as having an open-format for which other tools could be written. 17:01 jwagner Right. 17:08 * sekjal is thinking about Koha 4.0 17:09 reiko does anyone know why authority search works for 2 auth types and not for the rest ? 17:12 |Lupin| still not reiko, sorry 17:12 |Lupin| reiko: perhaps you'll get more feedback from the koha list ? 17:13 |Lupin| reiko: I think the list has a broader audience than the chan 17:15 * chris_n goes off in search of food 17:18 wizzyrea_mobile Tap tap is this thing on? 17:18 |Lupin| yep ! 17:18 sekjal sure is, wizzyrea_mobile! 17:18 |Lupin| hi liz 17:19 owen Not too busy wrestling to stop by, wizzyrea_mobile? 17:19 brendan hey wizzyrea |Lupin| sekjal 17:19 brendan all others too :) 17:19 sekjal hi, brendan 17:19 jdavidb Hi, wizzyrea_mobile! 17:19 wizzyrea_mobile Hi peeps 17:21 wizzyrea_mobile I missed u all, so I got an app for my phone. Lol 17:22 owen Looks like the app needs work :| 17:22 owen Dies whenever the phone goes to sleep? 17:23 sekjal says it stays connected 17:23 sekjal might be the network 17:23 brendan @later tell Jo I love the addition to your OPAC http://opac.koha.catalystdemo.net.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=maori+battalion looks great! 17:23 munin brendan: The operation succeeded. 17:24 |Lupin| wizzyrea_mobile: re:the problem we talked about yesterday, i.e. the drop-down not being visible when adding to a list by bibnumber, actually it's a bug in KOha... Bug 3770 munin ? 17:24 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3770 normal, P5, ---, Sebastien.Hinderer@snv.jussieu.fr, NEW, 'Add to list' page does only offers the choice of adding to private lists 17:24 wizzyrea_mobile Ahhhh! 17:24 wizzyrea_mobile I see! 17:24 |Lupin| munin: thanks, you'are so fast in replying ! 17:24 munin |Lupin|: Error: "thanks," is not a valid command. 17:24 wizzyrea_mobile He's a good friend 17:25 sekjal oh, munin, you're such a character 17:25 |Lupin| that thanks may be added ! he could just say you are welcome or so ! 17:26 |Lupin| ok, time to leave 17:26 |Lupin| have a good day / evening all, take care ! 17:38 * chris_n thinks wizzyrea_mobile must be picket fencing 17:44 * jdavidb pickets 17:46 hugo Good afternoon 17:46 hugo Thanks to the help I got here earlier this week, I was able to get Koha installed and running for the first time. Thank you. 17:46 chris thats great news 17:47 hugo it felt pretty good! 17:47 hugo I said, "whoa... it worked!" :) 17:47 chris heh 17:47 hugo Now to populate the DB. 17:47 chris yup 17:48 hugo Our little library has been using LibraryWorld - which seems like an extremely closed system... 17:48 chris most of them are 17:48 hugo I wonder if anyone has done this before? Or any pointers? A quick search on my part didn't find anything obvious. 17:49 chris firing an email off to the main koha list would be my suggestion 17:49 chris does it give any export options? 17:49 hugo It was their support fees and reluctance to help when we didn't upgrade right away that had us look at Koha in the first place. 17:49 chris hugo: sounds all too familiar 17:49 chris wow colloquoy for iphone sux 17:49 chris hehe 17:49 hugo Yes - but simple. I do have a file that I exported earlier this summer. I've got it open in a text editor and am trying to make sense of it. 17:50 chris if it is marc, then you can use bulkmarcimport.pl to import (you might want to use marcedit to fix the file up first) 17:51 hugo how would I tell? I'm a total neophyte with marc 17:52 hugo I'm trying to see where something that would indicate the end of each record 17:56 chris can you paste in a line of the file? 17:58 hugo oh - sure - cool. 17:59 hugo I think this is one record - there are no line breaks 17:59 hugo 00651nama 2200193 4500001000200000005001800002008004100020010001300061020002400074040001000098082001300108245005700121260004200178300004000220440003200260700002800292730002000320852011700340 1 20021120152520.0u 800521s1946 nyu a eng h a46022589 a044806006X : c$7.98 dWaOLN __ a398 bARA 04 aThe Arabian nights / cillustrated by Earle Goodenow. aNew York, bGrosset & Dunlap, c[1946]. a327 p. bill. (part col.). ; c2 17:59 hugo 0 aIllustrated junior library. 1 aGoodenow, Earle, d1913- 0 aArabian nights. __ aIN b c20040512120503.0u e f0 g0 h398 iARA j kJ l m n o p34862000004567 q r s t u0 v0 w0 x y z 1 2 3 4 5N 6 7 8 9 17:59 hugo but there are some funky upside down "?"'s 17:59 hugo which didn't copy/paste right 17:59 magnusenger that sure looks like marc! ;-) 18:00 hugo oh - cool. Well, that's good 18:00 chris yep thats marc alright 18:00 magnusenger if you are new to to the wonderful world of marc, having a look at something like this could perhaps be of interest: http://www.loc.gov/marc/umb/ 18:01 hugo thanks and yes - new 18:02 chris http://people.oregonstate.edu/~reeset/marcedit/html/index.php 18:03 chris this will be handy too, you will probably need to shift your item data, marcedit lets you do that easily 18:04 chris http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:record_manipulation:software:how_to:marcedit 18:14 hugo looks like some fun times :) 18:14 hugo I'm trying the first import now. 18:14 hugo I notice that the patrons file I exported from LibraryWorld looks to be quite a similar format (not CSV, for instance) but it looks like Koha wants the parton import file to be a CSV file... 18:15 brendan hi hugo -- I recently did a migration for someone from LibraryWorld 18:15 hugo Hey, well that's pretty cool. I got all of the 7963 records in. Heh. 18:16 hugo Oh - you did? How did that go? 18:16 brendan I was given the MARCout - so I wasn't invovled in the exporting of items 18:16 brendan then I used MARCedit for a lot of the clean up 18:16 hugo it looks like somehow I managed to do the export ok 18:16 hugo I"ll have to give that a look then - 18:17 hugo I just got the records in, at very first glance they look OK. 18:17 brendan so if you have an trouble with that -- please feel free to ask -- or send a message to the list 18:17 CGI988 hi everyone! who could help me with Koha version 3.0.1, please? 18:17 hugo thank you very much 18:17 brendan hugo -- I'll be in and out all day - 18:17 hugo brendan: I wonder if you can give me a quick hint about Patron import - did you do that too? 18:18 brendan yes -- I used the sample csv from koha 18:18 CGI988 I have to keep cataloguing books still using this old version. God know when our sysadmin will update it:( 18:18 brendan and then copied the information into the fields from the csv export (LW) to the koha template 18:18 brendan you can find the csv template from Tools>Import Patrons 18:19 brendan section of koha 18:19 CGI988 please... 18:19 hugo ok - thanks - I'll take a look later on - have to run to see a client now. Thank you very much for the tips. 18:19 hugo goodbye everyone - and thanks again for all the help. 18:19 CGI988 anyone?:( 18:19 brendan CGI988 what problems are you having? 18:21 CGI988 oh, thank you! When I do the cataloguing, and then search for the biblios I just added, it gives me two results of the same book - one says 1 item found, available, etc., the other says - no items found, but it gives the same normal view of the same book, you know what I mean? 18:21 brendan no I'm not sure what you mean 18:22 brendan maybe you imported the biblio into the catalog twice ? 18:22 CGI988 it didn't before, byt the way, but since last week or so \, somehow it started duplicate the records I'm adding 18:22 sekjal CGI988: if you look at the URL, are the biblionumbers at the end sequential? 18:22 brendan hmm... so it's duplicating the records. not sure there 18:23 brendan ahhh good idea sekjal 18:23 CGI988 yes they are 18:23 CGI988 but it didn't duplicate the records at first, and then somehow it started duplicating them... I didn't change anything in the preferences, you know 18:24 sekjal CGI988: okay, and is the item-less record first or second, numerically? 18:24 CGI988 hmmm, wait a sec, I'll double check 18:25 CGI988 wow, it's different every time, one book shows 1 item first, then no item, other books show - no item first 18:26 sekjal CGI988: huh. definitely not what I expected 18:26 brendan do you have a link that we could look at for your OPAC 18:27 CGI988 uh.. it's on local network only:( 18:27 brendan ok 18:27 CGI988 i can copy here the text it shows? 18:28 CGI988 i mean paste here 18:28 brendan you could use --> http://paste.workbuffer.org/ 18:30 pastebot "CGI988" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "OPAC results" (12 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/41 18:30 CGI988 done 18:31 sekjal CGI988: yeah, those look like very much the same MARC record, just in two different biblios. 18:32 sekjal CGI988: and the biblionumber for the itemless record is sometimes greater, and sometimes less than, the biblionumber for the record with item? 18:33 * chris goes to catch the bus 18:34 CGI988 ok i'm confused - which one is the biblionumber - the record number you mean? 18:34 CGI988 as it show in adding the record screen (MARC) record# ...? 18:35 sekjal CGI988: sorry, I didn't clarify. The biblionumber is record number for the title. It can be seen in the URL of the title's details page 18:35 CGI988 oh i see, will check now 18:36 brendan yeah I'm not finding a bug in bugs.koha.org 18:36 CGI988 ok the one with the item is #148, the one with no item - #147 18:36 CGI988 but it varies from book to book 18:37 ftherese I was able to change the default Marc Grid as it is provided in Koha, but I still find it odd that 036$b 100$a 101$a 122$a 123$a 127$a 615$9 700$a 710$a and 801(any) are required by default 18:37 brendan ok so that means that they are two different records. maybe somewhere in your workflow you are adding the biblio twice 18:37 CGI988 how?? 18:37 brendan how do you import the records into the database 18:38 brendan are you using marcbulkimport or Stage Batch Records 18:38 CGI988 I add the record in MARC (copying it from z39.50), then click save, then it gives me add item screen where I specify the location of the book and click add item, but I did that before and all [previous 60 books were ok 18:38 sekjal are you using Acquisitions? 18:39 CGI988 no 18:39 brendan when you are searching for the biblio -- are you using search -- or cataloging search 18:39 CGI988 I just import MARC records from library of congress or some other libraries from my list 18:40 CGI988 i use both and bothe give the same duplicated results 18:40 wizzyrea ok, someone told me syntax for getting more than 15000 rows out of a report, but I have conveniently forgotten 18:40 wizzyrea something about limit? 18:42 jwagner wizzyrea, Michael Hafen just posted a bugfix for that yesterday. The code is in Guided.pm. 18:43 jwagner Question on library policy setup -- I'm creating a new library, and I see there is now a URL field. Is that meant for the library's OPAC URL? Or as a link to the library home page? 18:44 gmcharlt jwagner: the latter, I think 18:44 jwagner Is it implemented anywhere, or one of those "future development" placeholders? 18:45 gmcharlt not sure about that - I think it's mostly a placeholder for now 18:45 CGI988 I catalogued about 60 or 70 books first, no problem, no duplicates. Then I started catalogue more in a week, and after I clicked save button on the MARC editing screen, it kept asking me - a duplicate is found, do you want to save it as a new record, or edit the existing one, I saved one as a new record, then I had two records for the same book, so I started editig the existing ones.... 18:46 CGI988 now it doesn't even show that duplicate warning sign any more, just duplicates it on its own:( 18:46 jwagner gmcharlt, thanks. I'll ignore it for now. 18:47 sekjal CGI988: odd. Still using the same browser on the same computer? 18:48 CGI988 no, the computer is different, but the browser is IE the same on all comps 18:49 sekjal CGI988: so the error started after you switched machines? or has it occurred when working on multiple machines? 18:51 CGI988 hmm... now that I think of that - I used firefox when catalogued the first 70 books.... and then I started using another computer with IE, could that be the problem? and it showed me the duplicate warning sign, and then they upgrated the computer and now there's no warning sign, but just duplicating.... 18:51 CGI988 is that a browser problem? 18:52 sekjal CGI988: well, different browsers handle Javascript differently, and I know there is some JS in the cataloging module 18:52 sekjal CGI988: it's a possibility. the coincidence makes it worth checking out, at least 18:53 CGI988 ok... are you going to be here for another 15 minutes or so? let me try catalogue some books using firefox, I'll install it now on my machine 18:53 wizzyrea jwagner Yay for patches... except we can't get them put on our system 18:53 wizzyrea grrr 18:53 sekjal CGI988: yes, I'll be here 18:53 CGI988 great, thank you! I'll be back soon 18:54 wizzyrea I guess my real question is... can't you add some kind of LIMIT statement to the end of your saved reports to get more out 18:54 wizzyrea colloquy for iphone = win, btw 18:56 sekjal wizzyrea: in channel, it looks like you're logging in and out a lot. But your user experience is smooth? 18:56 wizzyrea yea, actually it is 18:56 wizzyrea it reconnects every time you open the app 18:56 wizzyrea you *can* have it run in the background 18:57 wizzyrea and do push notifications 18:57 wizzyrea but I find that eats too much battery 18:57 wizzyrea and I was already kinda low 18:58 sekjal wizzyrea: hmmm.... I'v been looking for a good IRC client for my iPhone. I spend a LOT of hours in transit, and it would be nice to be in channel 18:59 wizzyrea well I like, it, I already use colloquy on my Mac 18:59 CGI988 sekjal - you are a genious!!!!! asking me about the browser!!!! yes it's the #$%$#%$#ing IE was messing my cataloguing, oh I hate miscrosoft, the evil! 19:00 wizzyrea oh someone quote add that 19:00 wizzyrea my registration is messed up, somehow 19:00 CGI988 it works perfect with firefox! 19:00 sekjal CGI988: whew, I'm glad we were able to find a workaround. 19:00 CGI988 :)))))) 19:00 CGI988 oh such a relief!! thank you SO MUCH! 19:01 sekjal you're very welcome 19:01 CGI988 :))))))))))) 19:01 CGI988 by-bye! 19:01 sekjal cheers! 19:01 gmcharlt @quote add <CGI988> sekjal - you are a genious!!!!! asking me about the browser!!!! yes it's the #$%$#%$#ing IE was messing my cataloguing, oh I hate miscrosoft, the evil! 19:01 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #45 added. 19:02 sekjal should I add a bug report for this? Or see if the error can be reproduced in 3.0.4 first? 19:05 brendan wb Nate 19:06 Nate hello hello! 19:06 brendan sekjal -- I'd say file a bug and then if you get a chance test it again 19:06 brendan and close you're bug if you are able to conclude that it is fixed 19:06 brendan whoops your bug 19:07 wizzyrea ty gmcharlt :) 19:15 jdavidb @quote random 19:15 munin jdavidb: Quote #44: "<thd> People make bugs fairly much in the degree to which they contribute to the code" (added by gmcharlt at 04:07 PM, October 30, 2009) 19:15 * jdavidb raises an eyebrow 19:15 wizzyrea @quote random 19:15 munin wizzyrea: Quote #43: "< Ropuch> Uh - beware of tea: it can burn your throat" (added by chris at 04:35 AM, October 30, 2009) 19:15 wizzyrea munin ++ that one's funny 19:15 sekjal brendan: sounds like a plan 19:15 munin wizzyrea: Error: "++" is not a valid command. 19:16 wizzyrea munin++ 19:16 wizzyrea @quote random 19:16 munin wizzyrea: Quote #43: "< Ropuch> Uh - beware of tea: it can burn your throat" (added by chris at 04:35 AM, October 30, 2009) 19:16 jdavidb munin-- #for being a broken record. 19:16 wizzyrea *sob* 19:16 jdavidb @quote random 19:16 munin jdavidb: Quote #40: "<tomascohen> hi everyone, just wanted to say I'm happy i managed to bypass the firewall to be with you *** tomascohen quit (Remote host closed the connection)" (added by ricardo at 11:05 AM, October 08, 2009) 19:16 brendan @quote random 19:16 munin brendan: Quote #34: "<chris> oh except that time .. when katipo decided to write an ils just for fun, then forced HLT to use it" (added by gmcharlt at 02:23 PM, September 16, 2009) 19:17 brendan @wunder 93117 19:17 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.3�C (11:12 AM PST on November 05, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Falling). 19:17 jdavidb @wunder 20852 19:17 munin jdavidb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is 13.6�C (2:13 PM EST on November 05, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010.4 hPa (Falling). 19:17 brendan cya in a bit #koha 19:17 jdavidb @quote random 19:17 munin jdavidb: Quote #28: "<owen> I'm glad munin doesn't follow me around all day remembering *everything* I say." (added by jdavidb at 09:14 AM, September 01, 2009) 19:37 wizzyrea @quote random 19:37 munin wizzyrea: Quote #24: "<kmkale> interesting word munin. in many indian languages we have a word munim who used to be a sort of accountant for all businessmen" (added by gmcharlt at 10:07 AM, August 07, 2009) 19:41 richard hi 19:53 chris_n hi richard 19:53 richard hi chris_n 20:36 rhcl in order to run 'rebuild_zebra' you have to have the path to the C4/lib set with the shell command #export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib. In what script should that variable be placed? 20:37 brendan you could do it just before you want to run the command 20:37 chris you setting up a cron job rhcl ? 20:37 rhcl cron=yes 20:37 brendan or put it in your profile 20:37 brendan oh whoops 20:37 chris check out the one in misc/cronjobs/crontab.example 20:37 chris you wanna copy that file 20:37 brendan chris++ 20:37 chris edit it 20:37 rhcl yea, I have the crontab set, but it doesn't seem to be running the indexer 20:38 chris id add a -v 20:38 rhcl It will run manually if I'm in a shell and export the variable 20:38 chris and the | mailx your@emailaddress -s "indexer" 20:38 chris place that line without the leading # 20:38 chris in your crontab 20:39 chris you'll want the KOHA_CONF one too 20:39 chris # is a comment, so won't actually get run 20:39 chris and piping the command to mailx is handy when debugging, then it will email you the output of what happened 20:40 rhcl BTW, the install instructions for 3.0.4 are *much* better than what I recall for 2.?. If I recall, Paul is the author of that doc? Whoever--much thanks. 20:41 chris joshua before he lost his mind did a lot of those 20:41 chris and they are good 20:41 jdavidb "before he lost his mind". *snrk* 20:41 rhcl chris: you are too diplomatic :) 20:42 chris i try :) 20:42 * jdavidb waves 20:44 * sekjal is reading up on Electronic Resource Management, in hopes of working on one for Koha 20:44 chris yay! 20:45 brendan would be awesome sekjal 20:45 brendan go for it :) 20:45 sekjal we definitely need it at our institution, and I'm pretty sure others need it, too. 20:46 sekjal I've got some ideas jotted down about what might need to be changed to implement it, adding more as I work through the existing literature 20:46 sekjal It's likely a big job; maybe Koha 4.0 big 20:59 chris yeah, the nice thing is, with git you can work it in an topic branch along side 20:59 chris merging in master every so often 21:00 sekjal would it be better to publish the RFC as being for Koha 3.2, 3.4, 4.0 or none of the above? 21:00 sekjal wait, obviously not 3.2 21:00 sekjal sorry 21:01 chris id link it to 3.4 but say, this is big work, and may not make 3.4 and will carry on into the next release if so 21:01 chris somethign like that anyway 21:01 sekjal sounds fair. I definitely need community feedback on what all it should do 21:02 chris *nod* and its worth it just to save 2 ppl doing hte same thing as well 21:02 sekjal I envision it doing so pretty deep structural changes to borrowers and aqbooksellers tables 21:03 chris_n wow, bad things going on at Ft. Hood, TX.... http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5A454F20091105 21:03 sekjal or, perhaps more accurately, replacing them with tables for "people" and "institutions" 21:03 chris you may want to wait until the biblibre changes for acquisitiosn are merged in 21:03 chris (which should be any day now( 21:03 chris http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/3038050/Seven-dead-in-Texas-army-base-shooting 21:04 chris yep, is rapidly becoming big news here too chris_n 21:04 sekjal chris: yes. I doubt I could even get started before Acq 3.2 is merged 21:05 chris chris_n: kinda proves the lie that having guns protects you eh 21:05 wizzyrea I'd rather have a big stick any day 21:06 sekjal circumstances seem too unclear from the above articles to draw many conclusions... seems like it'd have to be an inside job, though 21:06 chris *nod* 21:07 chris thats the downside of working on a new site, you see lots of bad news 21:07 brendan wow stuff just loaded crazy fast here 21:07 chris http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3036882/Spectacular-fireworks-over-Wellington 21:07 brendan cheers chris 21:07 chris brendan: thats how it should be when we have bandwidth :) 21:08 brendan :) 21:08 chris some nice photos there 21:09 brendan I don't see your hand though 21:09 chris hehe i was at home :) 21:10 chris http://www.flickr.com/photos/serenecloud/sets/72157622617136697/ and photos from one of my workmates 21:11 chris heh it looks like nate had a fun halloween 21:12 Nate you like that chris? 21:12 brendan el oso 21:12 Nate rargh 21:12 brendan the bear 21:12 chris heh 21:12 chris http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31521021&id=60801148 21:13 Nate wow whos the creepy guy in the door? 21:13 chris hehe 21:13 sekjal alright, time to catch a train. cheers, #koha 21:15 wizzyrea ooh preeeeety 21:15 Nate http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31521021&id=60801148#/photo.php?pid=31520808&id=60801148 21:15 Nate I eat whips for breakfast 21:16 wizzyrea lol wowie 21:16 Nate or you can say im whipped 21:17 chris that's your partner/gf/significant other/whatever you guys call it eh? 21:17 brendan that's his trainer 21:17 chris heh 21:18 chris that is probably the best way to describe a g/f ever 21:18 brendan agreed 21:18 chris_n why does CGI::Carp::die go into deep recursion on an undeclared var? 21:18 Nate thats the woman 21:19 Nate future mrs nate 21:19 chris hmm good question, seems like a bug to me chris_n, no bugs listed for that on cpan? 21:19 * chris_n finds it rather irritating because the process hangs and has to be killed 21:19 Nate .....eventually that is 21:19 chris Nate: congrats :) 21:24 wizzyrea trainer?! 21:25 wizzyrea well I guess.... but only if you like it that way >.> 21:40 chris i hate the rfi/rfp process 21:42 * chris_n echoes that sentiment 22:09 * chris_n heads out for the day... bbl 22:09 rhcl hey liz, under cataloging, the 100a field is greyed out, and won't let us enter anything. Why come? 22:09 chris you have authorities turned on 22:09 rhcl and it's not supposed to be? 22:17 wizzyrea what he said 22:17 rhcl OK, so should it be turned off? 22:18 wizzyrea are you going to use authorities? 22:18 rhcl I'm in waaay over my head. This is book stuff. I need to get my TS person on chat. 22:19 rhcl We've always used (Sirsi) authorities, and been able to go in and modify them. 22:19 chris yeah you need your cataloguing people 22:19 chris you can do that with koha too 22:19 chris just not in that screen 22:19 chris there is a whole other screen for monkeying with authorities 22:20 * wizzyrea nods 22:20 wizzyrea nekls doesn't use them (yet) 22:20 rhcl ok, where's the monkey screen? 22:20 chris pass 22:20 chris the manual should tell ya tho 22:20 chris 2 secs 22:21 chris http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.2/cataloging/authorities/view?searchterm=authorities 22:25 rhcl OK, first we conquered the zebra, and now we conquered the monkey. We're on a roll, TS is happy. Thanks both. 22:53 chris_n2_ back... different location... same code 22:54 chris :) 22:58 chris_n2_ @wunder 28334 22:58 munin chris_n2_: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 13.0�C (5:39 PM EST on November 05, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Rising). 22:59 chris @wunder wellington, nz 22:59 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on November 06, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). 22:59 ftherese I imported all my marc records but they are do not show up in the catalog, or in the resevoir now 22:59 chris caught ya 22:59 wizzyrea @wunder 66047 22:59 chris_n2_ heh 22:59 chris ftherese: are you using zebra? 22:59 munin wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 18.3�C (4:58 PM CST on November 05, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Falling). 22:59 ftherese yes 22:59 chris_n2_ supposed to be 2 C tonight 22:59 ftherese I ran the zebra index too 22:59 chris and you have run rebuild_zebra? 22:59 chris_n2_ time to stack a fire 23:00 chris cool can you try running it again, with -v 23:00 ftherese it seems like it fails at the end 23:00 chris which should give you some verbose output then 23:00 chris http://paste.workbuffer.org/ <-- paste the error there 23:00 chris_n2_ wizzyrea: still some catching up to do there ;-) 23:00 ftherese waiting 23:00 ftherese it has to sift through another 20000 23:01 * wizzyrea nods 23:04 ftherese 1300 23:04 ftherese sorry 23:04 ftherese 13000 23:04 ftherese the last couple of times it had problems with the lock files 23:04 ftherese but that was just a warning 23:05 ftherese then it failed on something ... I don't remember 23:05 chris ah if it had permissions problems 23:06 ftherese I tried to run it as another user 23:06 chris you probably should be running it as the koha user 23:06 ftherese I am 23:06 chris and all the zebra files should be owned by that user 23:06 chris you might need to do some sudo chown 23:07 ftherese 7000 23:07 chris_n2_ we really need to fix the zebra permissions issue in 3.2 23:08 * chris_n2_ looks for spare time 23:10 ftherese coming up on the end here 23:10 chris i think a dev install butches them a standard install i think works, (or used to) 23:12 pastebot "ftherese" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "rebuild_zebra.pl problems" (32 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/42 23:13 ftherese this is how I am running the server chris: sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 23:14 chris yep 23:14 ftherese sudo -u koha $/usr/share/koha/bin/zebraqueue_daemon.p 23:14 chris yeah dont run that 23:14 ftherese I need to do the same with the perl -I 23:14 ftherese ok so kill the daemon 23:15 chris you should use rebuild_zebra run as a cron job 23:15 chris (once you have done your initial index with using rebuild_zebra) 23:15 ftherese well... I just want to find out if it works first 23:15 chris then you should just run rebuild_zebra.pl .. dont use the daemon 23:16 ftherese so what do I do now... because it failed 23:16 chris rebuild_zebra failed? 23:17 ftherese yeah 23:17 ftherese didn't you see my paste? 23:17 chris looking now 23:17 ftherese unless the "fatal" at the end is ok 23:17 chris naw, it looks like permission problems to me 23:18 ftherese should I run sudo -u koha perl -I /usr..../lib /usr/share/.../rebuild_zebra.pl? 23:18 chris yes 23:18 chris but first 23:18 chris ls -l /var/lock/koha/zebradb 23:19 chris and ls -l /var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios 23:19 chris who are they owned by? 23:19 ftherese lock files -koha:koha 23:19 chris cool 23:19 ftherese biblios - key/register/shadow/tmp all owned by koha:koha 23:20 ftherese so I just need to run the rebuild_zebra with koha 23:21 ftherese 500 23:21 ftherese 700 23:21 ftherese counting up to 43000 23:22 ftherese 3500 23:23 ftherese does zebrasrv need to be running? 23:24 ftherese chris? 23:25 chris no 23:25 chris only for when you want to search :) 23:25 ftherese that's a joke right... 23:26 chris no, you dont need it to index 23:26 chris just to search 23:26 ftherese ok... 23:26 ftherese good to know 23:26 ftherese 13500 23:31 ftherese 24000 23:31 chris gotta duck out 23:32 ftherese see ya 23:42 ftherese still no record or resevoir results in the catalogue search 23:42 ftherese I just imported and indexed 43000 records 23:42 ftherese where the heck are they? 23:47 chris_n2_ ftherese: does rebuild_zebra.pl show no errors now? 23:48 * chris_n2_ nengard a baked potato with cheese and chili 23:48 nengard ??? 23:49 chris_n2_ it's supper tonight 23:49 chris_n2_ was I should say 23:52 ftherese chris_n2: no errors 23:52 ftherese chris_n2_: but still no dice 23:53 chris_n2_ zebra is running now? 23:53 ftherese I think there is a field that is mapped incorrectly... but I don't know which 23:54 chris_n2 ftherese: sometimes it is easiest to reboot to get zebra running 23:54 chris_n2 nengard: heh... sorry... I meant to hand you the potatoe 23:55 chris_n2 potato even... 23:55 nengard OH!!! got it 23:55 nengard :) 23:55 * chris_n2 has been staring at the crt too long today :-P 23:59 chris_n2 heya brendan 23:59 brendan hi