Time  Nick             Message
06:26 cait             JasonGreene[m]: you can't store duplicate barcodes in Koha - the field is unique in the database. You could add a prefix, maybe something like https://github.com/bywatersolutions/koha-plugin-barcode-transformer could help, if it allows to use/add a prefix on scanning dependent on the homebranch of the item
06:40 * cait1          waves
06:53 cait             @later tell ping marcelr
06:53 huginn`          cait: The operation succeeded.
06:53 cait             @later tell marcelr ping!
06:53 huginn`          cait: The operation succeeded.
07:02 cait             tcohen: hola
07:04 magnuse          \o/
07:04 magnuse          oops, i forgot about the gbsd. but the poll says friday the 22nd, so a week from today
07:05 cait             still enough time to advertise :)
07:05 cait             Friday is community day, right? :)
07:08 marcelr          o/
07:09 marcelr          cait?
07:09 cait             hello sec
07:41 Joubu            cait: I would not push 36277 without a proper review
07:42 cait             hm, I had a look, ran tetsts and such
07:42 cait             you think there is a risk of regression?
07:43 cait             hm I need review on the crud patches too
07:43 cait             because transfer limits advanced editor is broken in master (CSRF)
07:44 cait             do you know if that is reported yet?
07:44 Joubu            really? I've tried yesterday and it was working
07:44 Joubu            what's broken?
07:44 cait             QA for  bug 36190
07:44 huginn`          04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=36190 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , op param for stateful requests must start with 'cud-'
07:44 cait             the advenced editor table is not coming up
07:44 cait             let me check logs
07:44 cait             the simple one looks ok
07:45 cait             /cgi-bin/koha/admin/transfer_limits.pl
07:46 Joubu            it's usint the REST API, and it's working for me
07:46 cait             can you confirm?
07:46 cait             interesting
07:46 cait             let's see
07:46 Joubu            you need to select something in the dropdown
07:46 Joubu            " Select a collection: "
07:46 cait             oh silly me
07:47 Joubu            yes, it's blinking when the page loads, it's not really nice..
07:47 cait             you are right of course, but better me than a bug
07:47 marcelr          Joubu: what is our workaround now for large posts without state change ?
07:48 marcelr          note that changing to get is not always what you want either
07:48 marcelr          get parameters end up in logfiles etc
07:49 marcelr          would it be a fake cud- operation?
07:49 cait             Joubu: i will remove the patches from my branch
07:49 marcelr          op=cud-fake
07:49 Joubu            cud-noop
07:49 marcelr          no occurrences yet
07:49 marcelr          but maybe one for inventory?
07:49 Joubu            not yet
07:50 Joubu            maybe one for patron search
07:51 cait             i saw it on a bug from NIck I think
07:51 cait             but not sure which one
08:04 cait             marcelr++
08:04 cait             thanks, just what I needed :)
08:09 krimsonkharne[m] morning all
08:16 cait             hi krimsonkharne[m] :)
08:20 krimsonkharne[m] morning cait :)
08:32 cait             Do we have a patch for fixing CsRF in inventory yet?
08:32 cait             ah, found it!
08:36 cait             on last steps of first push for today
08:37 cait             if we could get QA on bug 36277 too today, that woudl be great
08:37 huginn`          04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=36277 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , t/db_dependent/api/v1/transfer_limits.t  is failing
08:43 cait             This was Jenkins, CSRF and bug fixes - heading into a meeting, keep them coming :)
09:47 ashimema         i'm looking now
09:48 cait             thanks!
09:48 cait             Jenkins is still working things out, waiting for results before working on the next batch
10:06 cait             mtj: around?
10:28 paulderscheid[m] Morning #koha
10:31 cait             ok, Jenkins unhappy - but just the one test in the works already
10:32 marcelr          hi paulderscheid[m]
10:32 paulderscheid[m] hi marcelr
10:49 paulderscheid[m] Could anyone tell me what this argument is used for? $no_block_due_date in C4::SIP::ILS
10:50 paulderscheid[m] (&checkout)
10:52 paulderscheid[m] And as a bonus, which one is the right documentation for SIP2 (I think it is SIP2, right)?
10:54 cait             hm, I think I found a bug with ACCOUNT_WRITEOFF
10:55 marcelr          i thought we fixed them all :)
10:56 marcelr          PedroAmorim[m]++
10:57 marcelr          paulderscheid[m]: SIP2 (version 2) was published in 2006, are you working on SIP3 ?
10:58 ashimema         LCF
10:59 cait             paulderscheid[m]: do you need a link?
10:59 tcohen           hola #koha o/
10:59 cait             paulderscheid[m]: the one from 3M is the one usually referred to I think
11:00 marcelr          hola tcohen
11:00 marcelr          i was just about to leave ;)
11:00 marcelr          go to the playa
11:00 cait             just for people interested (maybe noone): if you use "Write off all" you get an email per written off fine. if you use "write off selected" you get one nice summary email.
11:00 paulderscheid[m] Ok, thanks cait++ marcelr++
11:01 cait             marcelr: sounds fun :) thanks for the QA
11:01 marcelr          no it is still a bit cold :)
11:01 ashimema         yuk.. that's not very nice is it cait
11:01 marcelr          ashimema: what is the LCF of MARC21 btw
11:01 ashimema         wha...
11:02 ashimema         LCF is Library Communications Framework.. and in theory it's the proposed replacement for SIP2 (i.e. it.s SIP3)... but it's just another blooming API to maintain in my opinion
11:03 ashimema         we have a plugin for it now at ptfs-e.. still a work in progress but as none of the vendors actually support it yet it's a bit of a hard sell
11:03 ashimema         (but it's in every tender we respond to and has been for many years so we kinda had to do it to be able to tick the box without outrighy lieing)
11:05 cait             ashimema: not ideal I'd say - also lost track of it and just ran into it again, it looks like I had alredy found it once before: 32429
11:05 cait             bug 32429
11:05 huginn`          04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32429 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , With "Write off all" UseEmailReceipts sends emails for each, with "Write off selected" a digest
11:05 paulderscheid[m] That sounds cool nonetheless ashimema
11:05 cait             I upped severity a bit, it's confusing to the patrons with the remaining amounts
11:05 paulderscheid[m] Is it not worth the effort?
11:06 ashimema         lcf you mean paulderscheid
11:06 ashimema         it's hard.. why solve a solved problem again 😜
11:06 ashimema         that's the key challange here.. SIP2 works and works well and has done for decades
11:07 paulderscheid[m] yes
11:07 ashimema         whilst we all know it's flaws.. getting everyone to adopt an entirely new standard is hard
11:07 paulderscheid[m] from what i quickly skimmed through it sounds like it's more flexible
11:07 paulderscheid[m] That I understand.
11:08 paulderscheid[m] Will be a couple of decades 4 sure.
11:08 cait             and there is also NCIP
11:08 ashimema         it's scope it a bit wider.. but then.. we already also have svc/rest/unapi/ncip/etc etc etc
11:08 paulderscheid[m] The thing w/ standards is, there should be only one.
11:08 cait             you know the xkcd comic about that one?
11:08 ashimema         so yeah.. it's 'yet another one to support' from the Koha perspective.. and 'a non-issue' for most suppliers using SIP2
11:09 paulderscheid[m] Please share cait
11:09 ashimema         it's already entering it's second decade soon I think 😜
11:09 cait             I am not sure if LCF is actally widely supported yet by providers even, they seem quite happy with SIP2 or NCIP
11:09 paulderscheid[m] Haha, yeah change can be slow.
11:09 paulderscheid[m] Maybe not ALWAYS a bad thing.
11:09 cait             https://m.xkcd.com/927/
11:10 paulderscheid[m] Forgot about that one :D Thanks cait
11:10 cait             afk for a little while, lunch and such, bbl
11:10 ashimema         yup.. LCF has been in our queue for maybe 6 years.. and we just got to doing the basics of it here.. and have partners who in theory already NEED it.. but as soon as we said, right, we're done.. can we test against your endpoints to make sure we did it right.. they basically turned round and admitted their lie that nothing yet exists on their ends either
11:10 ashimema         it's a pain
11:11 paulderscheid[m] What the ...
11:12 paulderscheid[m] (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
11:23 tcohen           hola marcelr!
12:49 cait             so... can I push it now? :)
12:49 cait             (the tests patch discussed earlier)
12:49 cait             but got to get through my last meeting of today first
13:45 magnuse          anynoe familiar with bug 6796? am i right in thinking that is not intended to display the opening hours to the public? just for hourly loans and fines and such?
13:45 huginn`          04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6796 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Passed QA , Overnight checkouts taking into account opening and closing hours
13:53 cait             I think it doesn't include a display for the OPAC yet
13:53 cait             IIRC
13:54 cait             ok, meeting done *puts on her RM cape*
13:57 Joubu            take bug 36332
13:57 huginn`          04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=36332 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , JS error on moremember
13:57 Joubu            no idea since when it's there, but it can be bad
13:57 cait             there are so many...
13:58 cait             without QA? ;)
13:58 Joubu            it's PQA now
14:03 cait             I am on it, give m a moment :)
14:21 Joubu            @later tell oleonard what's your opinion on bug 36333?
14:21 huginn`          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
14:24 cait             bug 36333
14:24 huginn`          04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=36333 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Remove all empty lines from template's output
14:35 cait             Joubu: got that one and the transfer limits
14:38 cait             Joubu++ # bug clean-up
14:39 cait             who else is curious if Jenkins will turn green? :)
14:40 tcohen           \o
14:43 magnuse          o/
14:43 tcohen           go jenkins, go
14:43 magnuse          the poll has spoken, and there will be https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2024-03-22_Global_bug_squashing_day
14:44 magnuse          that page lists some volunteers. i will be sneaky and leave them there. if you want to add or remove names, please do so in the template: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Template:Globsquad
14:45 magnuse          oops, this template should be edited: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Template:Globsqua
14:46 cait             ah well, always the friendly guide, not sure I coudl shake that off :D
14:52 Joubu            [off] lol? ProtectSuperlibrarianPrivileges is only used TT side? not enforced in the controller? want more sec bugs??
14:53 Joubu            ok, friday afternoon, it's in the controller! \o/
14:53 cait             I was tring to figure out how to tell you to remember to breathe :)
14:53 cait             magnuse++ # organising GBSD
14:53 cait             I better block my next Friday
15:05 domm[m]          I've (finally) submitted a pull request to koha-testing-docker that documents how you can start Plack with hot-reload: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/-/merge_requests/492
15:10 cait             oh exciting!
15:11 cait             probably the wrong person to review, but I would not mind it working
15:11 cait             :)
15:21 ashimema         I reviewed.. and merged...
15:21 ashimema         😄
15:34 cait             domm[m]++
15:35 domm[m]          ashimema: thanks!
15:40 cait             nice Community Friday :)
15:40 cait             ashimema++ too
16:01 reiveune         bye
16:37 cait             havve a nice weekend all!
17:32 JasonGreene[m]   I made a change to koha-conf.xml to work with a plugin .... does koha have a restart or do I need to reboot the server?
17:43 JasonGreene[m]   <cait> "Jason Greene: you can't store..." <- thanks... I looked at it and it seems to be for an older version of Koha... I don't see this page or option.
17:43 JasonGreene[m]   "Once set up is complete you will need to alter your Use KohaPlugins system preference. On the Tools page you will see the Tools Plugins and on the Reports page you will see the Reports Plugins."
18:23 JasonGreene[m]   We made the plugin change and restarted the system... still don't have any "add plugin" option am I missing something