Time Nick Message 06:53 reiveune hello 07:17 magnuse davidnind++ 07:21 magnuse khall++ tcohen++ 07:38 NikolayGospodinov[m] Hello. I have a question? How to stop sending emails to patrons from Koha! 07:39 puphaus[m] Completly? you can run koha-disable-email <your instance_name> 07:39 NikolayGospodinov[m] Yes Completly 07:40 puphaus[m] Then this should do the trick :) 07:40 NikolayGospodinov[m] ok 07:45 NikolayGospodinov[m] After i put the commant it says: Email already disabled for instance 07:45 Joubu puphaus[m]: is this really working? 07:46 NikolayGospodinov[m] How to check if it stops sending emails? 07:48 puphaus[m] Joubu: it did work for me some time ago when testing an instance 07:48 Joubu puphaus[m]: I am reading debian/scripts/koha-email-disable and I really dont' see how it can work 07:49 Joubu it's only creating/removing a file (email.enabled), which is not used in Koha it seems 07:50 magnuse you could also disable the cronjob for process_message_queue.pl in /etc/cron.d/koha-common 07:50 magnuse there are some cronjobs that use the --email switch to koha-foreach 07:50 Joubu magnuse: it won't work, we have emails that are sent directly 07:50 magnuse yeah, it won't stop all the emails 07:51 Joubu NikolayGospodinov[m]: if the disable email command does not work you can set SendAllEmailsTo to a given address and all emails will be sent to this address. It won't stop sending email, but patrons won't receive emails 07:51 magnuse ...and the --email switch uses the email.enabled file 07:51 Joubu it depends on what you want exactly 07:51 puphaus[m] Joubu: hm it was an older instance and i thought it would be the same on newer versions 07:51 puphaus[m] i think i have to read the source code everytime before answering 07:52 puphaus[m] sorry Nikolay Gospodinov and thank you Joubu for correcting! 07:52 NikolayGospodinov[m] So what should i do 07:53 Joubu magnuse: correct, so it's used. But not from everywhere.. 07:56 Joubu created bug 36314 07:56 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=36314 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-email-disable does not disable all emails 08:02 cait1 NikolayGospodinov[m]: it stops all automated emails from sending, you can still trigger manually, like when sending a cart 08:03 cait1 the crons are simply not run then, that have the email flag, I believe that is the trick 08:03 cait t 08:05 Joubu davidnind: around? 09:06 paulderscheid[m] morning #koha 09:37 puphaus[m] Is there a possibility to only sent check-in notifications when it happened via self chekc-in? 09:45 cait vs. sIP? 09:49 puphaus[m] sorry i dont understand it 100% i mean the self checkout module in koha or is there a way via a sip server? 10:00 cait ah ok 10:00 cait I am not aware of a method to turn it off for one or the other 10:03 puphaus[m] no problem 10:03 puphaus[m] thank you anyways for your input! :) 10:18 cait I think it can be limited by branch - but we haven't used that feature and it might not help you :( 10:25 cait puphaus[m]: I meant this page here: /cgi-bin/koha/admin/item_circulation_alerts.pl 10:35 puphaus[m] not really but i saw in the source code that i could maybe program it myself and contribute it if im sucessful with implementing it :) 10:37 cait sounds great :) 10:38 puphaus[m] hopefully its as easy as i think at the moment :D 11:01 cait it always starts out that way... but don't give up :) 11:01 Joubu it's NEVER as easy as you think initially 11:01 cait sssh 11:01 cait shush 11:02 cait we don#t want him to get scared! :) 11:02 Joubu well, sometimes it is!! 11:02 Joubu (better?) 11:02 cait yeah, somewhat ;) 11:31 paulderscheid[m] # boolspace: ' ' is false, 'Y' is true. (don't ask) 11:31 paulderscheid[m] Just found this :D 11:43 cait in the code? 11:45 magnuse paulderscheid[m]: looks like SIP2 code ;-) 11:45 paulderscheid[m] yep 11:46 paulderscheid[m] C4/SIP/ILS/Transaction/Checkout.pm (22.11) 11:46 paulderscheid[m] The (don't ask) made me chuckle :D 11:46 magnuse :-) 11:50 cait sometimes it's better... 11:50 cait late lunch, bbiab 12:34 tcohen hola #koha o/ 12:40 cait hola tcohen 12:42 tcohen how's koha-land cait? 12:44 cait hopefully sunny? :) 12:45 tcohen it is foggy here 12:45 tcohen yesterday it was 40ÂșC 12:45 tcohen we are all gonna die soon 12:45 tcohen haha 12:47 cait weather changing quickly can be hard 13:13 paulderscheid[m] tcohen: haha :_) 13:52 krimsonkharne[m] hey y'all 13:53 krimsonkharne[m] cait: do you know if it's possible in authorities to search for the authid of an authority record? 13:54 * krimsonkharne[m] uploaded an image: (17KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/vdOSDnngQGOiZLLmsszybtIy/image.png > 13:54 krimsonkharne[m] that is, this number: 13:54 cait sec 13:54 cait Can someone sign-off on [Bug 36277] t/db_dependent/api/v1/transfer_limits.t is failing please? 13:54 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=36277 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , t/db_dependent/api/v1/transfer_limits.t is failing 13:54 cait getting Jenkins green! 13:56 cait krimsonkharne[m]: in bibliographic data it's an 13:56 cait Elasticsearch or Zebra? 13:56 krimsonkharne[m] Elasticsearch 13:58 krimsonkharne[m] I had a question from a client where if they're in a biblio record and they already know the authid of the authority record they want to use in a subject heading, they couldn't search for the authid number in the cataloguing authority plugin 13:58 Joubu krimsonkharne[m]: http://localhost:8081/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?op=do_search&q=an:424242 13:58 krimsonkharne[m] (or rather wouldn't find the authority record) 13:58 Joubu is that what you are looking for? 13:59 Joubu ok forget that, read too quickly sorry 13:59 krimsonkharne[m] still could be helpful for "normal" searching though, thanks :) 14:00 cait sorry, i was not clear, an is the serach index name :D 14:00 cait but in biblio 14:01 krimsonkharne[m] ahhh :) 14:02 cait I was going to look at elasticsearch config sec 14:03 cait I feel like our indexing of authority data has been treated a bit "stepmotherly" (Germanism intended) 14:03 krimsonkharne[m] haha 14:04 cait theoretically: local-number 14:04 cait the authid shoud be reflected in your 001 14:04 cait can you test? 14:05 krimsonkharne[m] yeah.. maybe I'm stupid but it doesn't seem to work for me 14:06 krimsonkharne[m] sec 14:06 krimsonkharne[m] screenshot coming 14:06 * krimsonkharne[m] uploaded an image: (16KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/MHJzbjtBhzqGpZFIsVoJTjPW/image.png > 14:07 krimsonkharne[m] (just 112274 doesn't work either, in any of the fields) 14:09 krimsonkharne[m] maybe it's less an Elasticsearch question and more a cataloguing authority plugin question? 14:09 krimsonkharne[m] anyway don't want to take up your time too much with authority questions... ;-) 14:10 cait I think it doesn't get passed through maybe 14:10 cait it doesn't work in authority search either 14:14 cait krimsonkharne[m]: bug 22864 maybe 14:14 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22864 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Search by creation date and control number in Authorities 14:15 krimsonkharne[m] oh, thanks! 14:15 krimsonkharne[m] cait++ 14:15 krimsonkharne[m] Joubu++ 16:01 reiveune bye 17:36 marie-luce Hi Koha community. 17:37 marie-luce Is anyone familiar with the ILL email notifications? 18:01 cait hi marie-luce: a bit 18:02 cait do you have a problem? 18:11 marie-luce I was looking for a way to send an email to staff after a new ILL request 18:11 marie-luce But, after some testing I couldn't figure it out how. 18:12 marie-luce Koha seems to send email to staff only when the request is modified or cancel 18:14 marie-luce It will add a comment in this bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35143 18:14 huginn` 04Bug 35143: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add hooks for status changes to ILL requests to send_staff_notice 18:35 JasonGreene[m] MarcEdit question.... Does MarcEdit have the option to find duplicate entries on a certain Spreadsheet column? 19:28 marie-luce Hi JasonGreen I'm not very familiar with MarcEdit. Maybe try asking again tomorrow when more people are around. Or you could try asking on the mailing list https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha 19:35 cait oh sorry marie-luce - had to leave earlier 19:37 marie-luce no worries cait. Thanks for reaching out. 19:37 cait marie-luce: I am not sure if this needs to be implemented int he ILL backend or not, we don't use that feature (also not using the changes one) 19:38 JasonGreene[m] <marie-luce> "Hi JasonGreen I'm not very..." <- thanks 19:38 marie-luce At the moment, Koha is sending correctly ILL_REQUEST_CANCEL and ILL_REQUEST_MODIFIED emails. 19:40 marie-luce I've left a comment in bug35413 19:55 wajasu well, i had some luck baby stepping to run koha-testing-docker with docker compose watch (w/o bind mount or a volume) 19:56 paulderscheid[m] that's awesome wajasu 19:57 wajasu i can edit the file in the host koha, and it sync up into the container. i presume a git branch change would do the same. 19:58 wajasu now i guess, i could setup yarn to rebuild if certain files change. 19:59 wajasu or maybe just restart the koha services accordingly 20:01 wajasu but one would need to realize a version change my update the db. but maybe that could be regenerated as well. it might all just be as long as what we have today. 20:01 paulderscheid[m] yeah, there's yarn js:watch for js and I think domm wrote something w/ inotify to restart plack (but that was for plugins I think)\ 20:02 wajasu it might help the workflow for UI work. with a full ktd down/up 20:02 wajasu the docker compose watch has smarts to ignore the .git directory and other web modules platforms like node_modules 20:03 wajasu i hadn't messed with this stuff since tcohen was working on it way back 20:03 paulderscheid[m] Always feel free to add documentation and experiments here https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha-testing-docker 20:04 wajasu the newest docker buildx/buildKit build just what is needs 20:07 paulderscheid[m] wajasu: that's cool 20:09 wajasu the kohadevbox/run.sh (i.e. files/run.sh) has alot of smarts to get the newest pkgs, etc into koha testing docker, allowwing everyone testing to be up-to-date 20:09 paulderscheid[m] yeah, I actually don't like that run.sh is so massive 20:10 wajasu my docker image for koha/koha-testing:master-bullseye is 10GB. to use docker compose watch one needs to do an initial COPY --chown=1000:1000 . /kohadevbox/koha 20:11 wajasu then when you start the container, the run.sh is what takes a while, and watch syncs. 20:13 paulderscheid[m] It would be cool to have the extra config in an additional docker-compose.watch.yml, maybe you could add a PR to https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker 20:14 JasonGreene[m] trying to understand, in koha, is a borrower a patron and is a patron a borrower? are they the same 20:15 paulderscheid[m] Jason Greene: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Terminology#P 20:16 wajasu i just added a Dockerfile based on docker-compose-light.yml and the files/ and env/ directories to koha git dir. it builds koha/koha-testing locally, one time, and runs fine. 20:17 paulderscheid[m] Sorry (just read the question), yes (borrower is marked for deprecation.. sorta) 20:18 paulderscheid[m] They refer to the same entity (and table: borrowers) at least 20:19 JasonGreene[m] Thanks... asking as I am reading on "How to delete library data in koha using command line"... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/KCVcDkeLMOpPOPVBFLxtftCE>) 20:21 JasonGreene[m] We are looking at deleting all items as the input has made many duplicates and it has become a predicament 23:22 dcook . 23:28 JasonGreene[m] we deleted all items on one of our libraries...... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/RRieqbbVcaUFgoAKGhIidsBK>)