Time Nick Message 21:15 JasonGreene[m] thanks! 21:13 caroline I don't think there is one for records... but I may be wrong 21:13 caroline 952$d for the item would be the best I think 21:12 JasonGreene[m] can't find it ... looking for a "date added" Marc21 code... anyone? 18:15 JasonGreene[m] That is correct 18:14 JasonGreene[m] oleonard: thanks 18:07 oleonard JasonGreene[m]: Maybe inventory number? 952i ? 18:02 JasonGreene[m] all of our books have an IDNO (ID Number) at both branches and a lot are the same. They were hand chosen... 1000-4000 and 1000-14000. We are going to change them however, does Koha or Marc21 have a something like that, that these number can fill in the transfer? They also have Dewey numbers. 17:59 caroline maybe that's why it isn't mapped correctly? 17:58 caroline but koha has biblioitems.collectiontitle and biblio.seriestitle 17:58 caroline in marc21, afaik, series and collection are both stored in 490 (or 830) 17:45 oleonard It's odd that we have something there that doesn't map cleanly to any particular Koha field 17:37 aude_c[m] I always interpreted that "collection title" as "series title". But maybe I'm wrong? 17:31 oleonard What is a suggestion's "Collection title" supposed to be for? 17:29 oleonard-away Yeah I start with splitter2 17:20 ashimema ooh.. both are 17:19 ashimema what about splitter2 16:30 oleonard-away splitter is down :( 16:00 reiveune bye 15:39 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=36034 blocker, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , cas_ticket is set to serialized patron object in session 15:39 Joubu bug 36034 15:39 Joubu All you, you should patch your Koha instances, mess is coming 15:38 Joubu blocker for a week and nobody cares? 15:38 Joubu mtj: around? We may need to roll another release (all stables) with 36034 13:58 marcelr o no tcohen 13:54 tcohen bye all, I'll be afk for a week. please email me if urgent 13:52 angelic Thank you Joubu. But I cannot open the page 13:47 Joubu angelic: use the translation platform: https://translate.koha-community.org/ 13:46 angelic Hi everyone. We are using Turkish language. But there are some English phrases in Turhis pages. How can I chang them to Turkish? I marked English prases by yellow in this screenshots: https://snipboard.io/7Q6LUo.jpg 13:44 Joubu syspref with dropdown list, 2 options 13:38 marcelr Joubu: multi ? not multi param? 13:17 Joubu marcelr: should be multi as well ;) 13:16 Joubu and please all keep your focus on csrf, we are not done yet (far from done!) 13:16 tcohen it might not be *that* bad if the format is HTML escaped everywhere it is used 13:16 tcohen :-D 13:15 marcelr will solve it now, hang on 13:14 marcelr well i will be silent then :) 13:14 Joubu yes, it's def sec for me 13:13 tcohen it's a security bug 13:13 Joubu a restriction can be bypassed :D 13:13 marcelr just different perspectives 13:13 Joubu it's sec bug for me, but feel free to deescalate 13:13 tcohen the backend needs to perform checks 13:13 marcelr yes, it happens 13:12 Joubu you can force a value from OPAC which is not expected from the backend... 13:12 marcelr Joubu i think 36081 does not need secu 13:11 marcelr and hoping to not create 3 new ones ;) 13:10 marcelr the general rule is solve 1 bug, find 2 new ones 13:09 marcelr yeah but its about server side checks 13:09 fridolin use of $raw is never good in public interface 13:08 marcelr ah 36081 13:07 marcelr whats the bug there? 13:05 Joubu finding 1 sec bug every day .. 13:05 Joubu lol! 13:05 Joubu [off] https://gitlab.com/koha-community/Koha/-/blob/master/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/modules/opac-request-article.tt?ref_type=heads#L297 13:03 Joubu I am missing a lot of bugz emails 13:03 tcohen sent it from my Gmail account 13:03 marcelr even on 365 13:03 marcelr seeing it now 13:02 tcohen we need to track this down 13:02 marcelr dont be shy tcohen 13:01 marcelr but i saw owen's reply 13:01 tcohen I'm not implying my email was important heh 13:01 tcohen Theke uses Gmail for email, this is odd 13:01 marcelr tcohen i still think that i hardly see 50% 12:59 oleonard tcohen: Not that I can see! 12:58 tcohen oleonard: did my answer to dcook about session corruption reach the list? 12:56 tcohen removing the version would require us to find another way to deal with assets cache invalidation 12:48 marcelr <!-- leave this for hackers --> 12:48 marcelr lol 12:48 oleonard Very advanced 12:47 marcelr oleonard: <meta name="generator" content="Koha 4.0900034" /> <!-- leave this for stats --> 12:47 marcelr o/ 12:45 magnuse it'll be worth the wait ;-) 12:44 oleonard magnuse: Whereas we won't have a Koha 4 until 3004 12:41 magnuse ooh, Koha 4... 12:37 tcohen hola #koha o/ 12:32 oleonard Someone please poach the Terra Foundation for American Art from them and get them on an up to date system :D https://tfaa.bibliovation.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl 12:30 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22324 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED LATER, Might be nice to list forks 12:30 oleonard Noticing Bug 22324 made me have morbid curiosity about what L*bL*me was up to lately... Bibliovation? I guess they still don't have a UI designer on staff :P 12:05 magnuse fridolin++ 11:43 cait I'll step out for a bit, taking care of things outside Koha. 11:41 cait I am very sorry if that came across as a hard no for a proposed change, that was not what I had intended. I realize I need to be more careful, especially being RM. 11:14 oleonard Good choice fridolin 11:12 * fridolin eating cheese 11:00 ashimema I am now walking away 11:00 ashimema without the follow-up's it's a fail 11:00 ashimema nah.. I failed it 10:59 paulderscheid[m] That sounds like a plan. 10:58 cait let's have the first bit if you think it's ok and bulit on that step by step 10:56 cait I argued we should do a detail different - if we can't discuss and have different opinions, what is the point? 10:55 paulderscheid[m] Let's criticise when there's follow-ups to criticise. 10:55 paulderscheid[m] I think we're all friends here, so let's just drop the debate. 10:54 ashimema except the moment I even considered making the data structure reflective of how the system actually works.. considering I've just spent 3 whole days free of charge neck deep in the code.. you put an immadaite. "No, we should not do that" 10:54 cait it's not fair to make it an all/nothing question, that's not waht is was about, but I am stepping back as well 10:54 cait i was argueing a future implementation detail, maybe too early 10:53 cait you said yourself they were not linked now 10:53 ashimema 100% 10:53 cait I never argued for not changing anything 10:53 paulderscheid[m] And API integration would be stellar. 10:53 paulderscheid[m] The opening hours are a component needed for many things not yet in core. 10:53 paulderscheid[m] I'm arguing for "Do change". 10:52 ashimema but if you are strongly advocating "Don't change", then we should not put this in at all in my opinion 10:52 ashimema I am, to make it consistent going forward 10:51 cait i thought we were taking about changed following after 10:50 ashimema it's only languised for 12 years already 10:50 ashimema lets just fail this bug entirely already then aye 10:49 ashimema that's not constructive 10:49 ashimema before it's even been proposed in any detail 10:49 cait ... but I will stop now 10:49 cait not argueing, just voicing concern about a proposed change 10:49 ashimema I'm walking away now 10:49 ashimema you're arguing without letting the proposition be put forward 10:48 cait I just say, leave it where it is 10:48 cait you want to mve stuff :) 10:48 ashimema cait.. please don't complicate things before we've even considered the code 10:47 cait if you want an API to tell when the library is open, we need to query both 10:47 ashimema yes.. and those are clearly distinct 10:47 cait exceptions 10:47 cait there is also single closed days 10:47 cait the API will need to draw from both places if you want a nice one 10:46 ashimema the reason I want to move it data wise is so it can be opened up to the API 10:46 ashimema I'm just looking to expose it in both places clearly 10:46 cait the day not open at all should be in one place 10:45 ashimema you do still need to set open/closed days though.. which is exactly the same as it always was 10:45 cait I'd still want to set my weekly closures in the calendar, that's the bit thta has me worried 10:45 cait hm 10:45 cait I think 10:45 ashimema if you don't want to set hours, you still don't have to 10:45 ashimema checkbox next to each day closed/open and it's own db field in library_hours 10:45 cait libraries without hourly loans might just not care about all that 10:44 ashimema not in the way I'm envisaging it 10:44 cait and it will cuase issues in migrating 10:44 ashimema they should still get referenced and used in Koha::Calender/C4::Calendar too 10:44 cait if you move them, it won't 10:44 cait I feel like the whole opening hours should be more optional 10:44 cait I am not sure about that one 10:43 cait hm? 10:43 ashimema including dropping 'weekdays' from repeatable_holidays and moving them into library_hours 10:43 cait I feel it might be good to set the times for closed days too, but have a note / greyed out as you suggested for a visual clue 10:43 ashimema I'm now going to write up a series of follow-up bugs I'd like to see taken care of 10:43 ashimema I've passed the current bug.. not that I've tested the crap out of it and fixed a number of issues i found 10:42 ashimema they're not at all linked right now 10:42 cait shouldn't opening days and hours be together? 10:42 cait ashimema: now that you mentioned the calendar... the opening hours feel out of place on the library page :( 10:41 cait :) 10:40 ashimema but yeah.. truth will be once we start pushing more and thus running the tests regularly again 10:40 ashimema so far it's looking good I think 10:36 fridolin oki good 10:34 Joubu fridolin: we are testing it 10:33 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35506 normal, P5 - low, ---, victor, ASSIGNED , selenium/regressions.t is failing randomly 10:33 fridolin cait: hi, Bug 35506 looks in master, but status is assigned 10:33 ashimema lol 10:32 * oleonard waves to ashimema down there 10:30 ashimema why do i find myself in these holes! 10:30 ashimema f**k 10:30 ashimema so I can't just reply on 'Is hours populated, no - it must be closed' 10:30 ashimema but also.. it's optional whether you set open/closed at the hours or days level too 10:29 ashimema it's in two distinct places right now 10:29 ashimema indeed 10:29 ashimema I feel like we should grey out the hours inputs for weekly closed days in the edit screens and also denote 'closed' somehow in display where we display hours 10:28 paulderscheid[m] Yeah, this feels like it should have one single source of truth, though. 10:28 ashimema but I don't want to lock out the possibility to make it API driven at some point. 10:27 ashimema which I'm OK with for now 10:27 ashimema all the write/edit is good 'ol controllers right now 10:27 ashimema but yeah 10:27 ashimema which is nice 10:27 ashimema they already add library_hours to the embedable options on fetch 10:27 paulderscheid[m] That would be useful for display on external websites and such. 10:26 paulderscheid[m] This should deffo be consolidated. Then we can also add an API endpoint for branches' opening hours. 10:25 ashimema I feel like it aught to be somehow.. even if only informationally 10:25 ashimema it's not tied at all to the existing opening days in any way 10:25 ashimema with the bug I'm working through we add opening hours too 10:24 paulderscheid[m] But maybe I'm not understanding the problem fully.. 10:24 paulderscheid[m] Don't really know anything about C4/Koha::Calendar but maybe it's better to be able to set those if the closed status can change? 10:21 ashimema as in.. the repeated weekday closed days 10:21 ashimema should one be able to set opening hours for days marked closed in the calendar? 10:21 ashimema OK.. new question around opening hours 09:55 ashimema hmm.. similar but different.. weirdly confusing having both though. 09:53 ashimema and when should one use one over the other.. they appear rather similar in function 09:53 ashimema why do we have Koha::Calendar and C4::Calendar 09:43 ammarspv[m] <paulderscheid[m]> "morning #koha" <- Very good morning to you and to your Koha instance 08:31 paulderscheid[m] morning #koha 08:09 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 08:09 Joubu @later tell kidclamp I think I fixed the "run", and also the link to batch patron mod 07:32 magnuse \o/ 05:56 fridolin bonjour 05:30 reiveune hello