Time  Nick                 Message
18:44 cait                 oleonard++ thx!
17:31 oleonard             Just imagining that when I run across this kind of issue again I will have no memory of today
17:30 caroline             nothing broken I hope
17:30 oleonard             It's okay I climbed back up!
17:29 caroline             :(
17:29 oleonard             Instead of going down a rabbit hole it was more like falling down the stairs.
17:29 oleonard             Now where was I before cait sent me down the number format rabbit hole? XD
17:12 cait1                bye all :)
17:10 oleonard             Never mind I think we just ditch the template's use of the format filter
17:09 cait                 not following
17:09 cait                 I think it#s too late for me
17:08 oleonard             Numbers. How do they work?
17:02 oleonard             Can you tell the format() function to only include relevant decimals?
17:01 oleonard             I guess that was to prevent the field from displaying "10.000"
17:00 oleonard             [% discount | format ('%.1f') %]
17:00 oleonard             Oh it's the template that is truncating the discount rate when you edit the vendor!
16:49 reiveune             bye
16:46 caroline             lol!
16:45 oleonard             "Please enter a number in the format of a gentleman wearing spectacles: (^0.0^)"
16:40 oleonard             cait++
16:39 oleonard             Oh you're right
16:38 cait                 not matching
16:38 cait                 hm for me it stays colorless for 100
16:38 oleonard             I would expect that to work but it doesn't. It accepts 100
16:37 cait                 does that look ok to you?
16:37 cait                 ^[\-]?\d{0,2}(\.\d{1})*$
16:36 oleonard             The db won't accept three digits before the decimal. The perl script won't allow more than one digit after the decimal.
16:36 cait                 ok
16:35 oleonard             My goal is to allow 99.9 but not 100 or 100.0
16:35 cait                 hm not compeletey sure about waht should match and waht not
16:30 cait                 did the explanation make sense?
16:29 cait                 maybe we want the . and the last digit to be optional as a group?
16:28 cait                 0 more digit
16:28 cait                 matches first on 2 digits, optional dot is not there
16:28 cait                 so 100
16:28 cait                 between zero and 0 times
16:28 cait                 the . is optional
16:27 oleonard             I didn't see it that way until you repeated the explanation
16:27 caroline             that's what I understand from the explanation. between 0 and 2 digits, repeated
16:26 oleonard             Oh, it matches the first two digits, and then the second two digits?
16:26 caroline             On the right side panel it says "{0,2} matches the previous token between 0 and 2 times, as many times as possible, giving back as needed (greedy)"
16:25 oleonard             I thought that would not match three digits before the decimal
16:25 oleonard             I don't understand why that matches "100" and "-999"
16:24 oleonard             https://regex101.com/r/853EPf/1
16:24 oleonard             Seeking regular expression help...
16:23 fridolin             see u
16:18 caroline             when you get a match, you can see the diff
16:18 caroline             oh that was not in the log viewer, it was in the import tool, no?
16:17 cait                 where we highlight/color the changed lines etc.
16:17 cait                 the catalouging entries are there, I was missing a view like we have on import or for the sysprefs
16:15 aude_c[m]            lucyvh++ for Docs meeting minutes
16:14 caroline             I saw "BEFORE biblio= " a lot, did it disappear?
16:12 Joubu                inconsistencies? no way!
16:11 ashimema             that's why I believe
16:11 ashimema             we store those 'diffs' in all sorts of different ways
16:10 oleonard             I can't remember why it was limited that way
16:10 oleonard-away        Only for system preferences I think?
16:08 cait                 did I dream we had a way to diff record changes in the log viewer?
16:07 cait                 documentation_team++
16:07 cait                 docs_team++
16:03 huginn`              Log:            https://meetings.koha-community.org/2024/documentation_meeting_31_january_2024.2024-01-31-15.04.log.html
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16:03 aude_c[m]            #endmeeting
16:02 lucyvh[m]            #action: Style guide to become a standing item on the agenda
15:52 lucyvh[m]            #info Aude added information related to use of the manual vs. wiki
15:40 aude_c[m]            #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_-_Content_Development_Guide
15:40 aude_c[m]            #topic Documentation - content development guide
15:32 aude_c[m]            #info Next step will be to analyse another 100 or so easy images
15:32 aude_c[m]            #action Aude and Caroline to update the guidelines for this
15:31 aude_c[m]            #info In workflow column, steps have been simplified. Look at the top 70 lines to see new expected format
15:29 aude_c[m]            #info New column: page on Koha - if it's a specific page in Koha, just paste the URL.
15:29 aude_c[m]            #info Jonathan reworked the spreadsheet to turn it into something more usable for the script.
15:25 aude_c[m]            #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z1SRT6p9GZhc45SVYwo4dQVjJ3dS48nA6d8OFRXOEsM/edit#gid=0
15:23 aude_c[m]            #topic Automated screenshots
15:23 lucyvh[m]            #action: Philip and Aude to plan a further workshops in Spring.  Next on in February 2024
15:22 lucyvh[m]            #info ACTON: Philip and Aude to plan a further workshops in Spring.  Next on in February 2024
15:18 lucyvh[m]            #info Do we want to plan more? When and who should lead?
15:17 lucyvh[m]            #info Useful for new documenters to watch demos and ask questions
15:15 Joubu                #info Jonathan Druart
15:15 lucyvh[m]            #info Two workshops have taken place
15:13 aude_c[m]            #topic What the team has been working on
15:13 aude_c[m]            #info All actions DONES
15:11 aude_c[m]            #topic Review of action points
15:09 krimsonkharne[m]     #chair @lucyvh
15:08 kellym               #info Kelly McElligott, ByWater Solutions
15:07 krimsonkharne[m]     #info Philip Orr, LMSCloud GmbH, Germany
15:07 lucyvh[m]            #info Lucy Vaux-Harvey, PTFS Europe, UK
15:07 huginn`              Current chairs: aude_c[m] lucyvh
15:07 huginn`              Warning: Nick not in channel: lucyvh
15:07 aude_c[m]            #chair lucyvh
15:07 caroline             #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro, Montréal, Québec, Canada
15:07 aude_c[m]            #info Aude Charillon, PTFS Europe, UK
15:06 aude_c[m]            #topic Introductions
15:05 aude_c[m]            #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_meeting_31_January_2024
15:04 huginn`              The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_meeting_31_january_2024'
15:04 huginn`              Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
15:04 huginn`              Meeting started Wed Jan 31 15:04:37 2024 UTC.  The chair is aude_c[m]. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
15:04 aude_c[m]            #startmeeting Documentation meeting 31 January 2024
15:02 aude_c[m]            Docs meeting starting (about to, officially)
14:37 cait                 and file a bug for else?
14:37 cait                 maybe try t make the smallest next step
14:05 oleonard             I have a feeling we should use it nowhere, but I'm not informed enough to be sure.
14:05 oleonard             We use float in aqbooksellers, aqorders, and currency.
14:03 magnuse              cait++
14:02 cait                 catching up slowly, but at least catching up
14:02 oleonard             cait++
14:01 cait                 push for today is done... will be back tomorrow queue
13:56 cait                 heh
13:55 oleonard             https://i.stack.imgur.com/d2xUm.png
13:50 cait                 ashimema: strictly speaking.... it's not a monetary value... but we might have the same type of issues
13:49 cait                 true
13:49 oleonard             There are so many number format bugs :(
13:46 oleonard             I've gone down this rabbit hole because if we're validating the discount rate field we also need to check the length of the input. If you put in too many digits you'll trigger an error in Koha
13:45 ashimema             it's mad to use float for anything money related
13:44 cait                 I have to admit, me neither
13:44 oleonard             It's the "approximate" that I think leads people into trouble, but I'm not sure of the details
13:44 oleonard             "The FLOAT and DOUBLE types represent approximate numeric data values."
13:44 cait                 sorry, i skipped proper lunch
13:43 oleonard             No
13:43 cait                 float != decimal?
13:43 cait                 oh
13:43 oleonard             tax_rate is type decimal(6,4) which may be what discount should be
13:42 oleonard             Yes
13:41 cait                 true, so that works a bit different... but does it allow values smaller than 1%?
13:40 oleonard             We have the TaxRates system preference for specifying values which will appear in a dropdown
13:40 cait                 but that reminds me - the bug wsa maybe for the tax field - did we fix that and coudl we make them work the same?
13:39 cait                 h we are talkign discounts
13:39 cait                 I think it depends if there are countries that do half percent taxes
13:39 oleonard             I wonder if we really need the type float for that column
13:37 cait                 I wonder if I have seen an old bug report about that somewhere
13:37 cait                 l
13:37 cait                 hm that's not idea
13:36 oleonard             So I can enter "3.0250" as the discount rate and Koha will save it correctly to the db, but when I edit the vendor again the field will show "3.0"
13:35 oleonard             acqbooksellers.discount has the type "float(6,4)", but the value passed to the vendor edit form is rounded to one decimal place.
12:59 huginn`              cait: The operation succeeded.
12:59 cait                 @later tell mtj pong
12:52 cait                 ashimema: around?
11:32 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35955 is not accessible.
11:32 cait                 bug 35955
11:32 huginn`              Joubu: The operation succeeded.
11:32 Joubu                @later tell marcelr 35955 - do you know why?
11:31 cait                 hi oleonard
11:29 oleonard             Hi #koha
10:59 paulderscheid[m]     You are correct! This record has $a repeated 'Japanese in MangaLand : : learning the basics / / Marc Bernabe ... illustrations, Ken Niimura ..'
10:53 paulderscheid[m]     I have to check other multilingual records.
10:53 ashimema             though I wouldn't profess to know if that's one of them
10:52 ashimema             there are some deliberately weird records, used in tests, in ktd
10:51 paulderscheid[m]     But the record seems at least wrong, because it should be $aeng$apor not $aengpor
10:49 paulderscheid[m]     Or it's not wrong, but the display for duplicated subfields is a little misleading.
10:48 paulderscheid[m]     That's wrong, right?
10:48 paulderscheid[m]     I found something weird today: In the test record on ktd for 'The passion according to G.H. / / Clarice Lispector ; translation by Ronald W. Sousa.' marc field 041 has 'engpor' in $a.
10:44 paulderscheid[m]     morning #koha
10:38 cait1                mtj: ping!
09:15 Joubu                so if you have a public IP 1.2.3.4 and a domain my.domain.org, then /etc/hosts should have a line with 1.2.3.4 my.domain.org
09:14 Joubu                /etc/hosts has the following format: "IP domain"
09:14 NikolayGospodinov[m] Ok
09:14 Joubu                I am sorry but this is not a Koha specific question, you should read a bit on linux administration
09:12 NikolayGospodinov[m] this is my domain libcatruse.work.gd and this is the DNS ns10.dnsexit.com... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/UEqjOyHvazwEeTpgZLJxISUQ>)
09:11 Joubu                IP domain
09:10 NikolayGospodinov[m] okey. What should be the format for the etc/hosts
09:10 NikolayGospodinov[m] Joubu: Yes
09:10 Joubu                this is not /etc/hosts
09:09 NikolayGospodinov[m] Is this the format I have to save them in the file?  iface eth0 inet static... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/OvQyDfHdZFwMjpaXuAcHqYcF>)
09:08 Joubu                debian/ubuntu?
09:08 Joubu                not even 127.0.0.1 localhost?
09:07 NikolayGospodinov[m] my file is emty now
09:06 Joubu                /etc/hosts
09:05 NikolayGospodinov[m] We have purchased two domains. But we don't have hosting. We have DNS settings for them received after their purchase. Shouldn't they be added somewhere on the server on which it is Koha?
09:03 Joubu                then the company providing the domain name
08:59 NikolayGospodinov[m] It is on a local server in our library
08:58 NikolayGospodinov[m] We do not have hosting provider for Koha
08:58 krimsonkharne[m]     Joubu++
08:58 krimsonkharne[m]     Joubu: aha, good to know! Thanks
08:56 Joubu                you need to configure it on the admin area of your hosting provider
08:55 NikolayGospodinov[m] I am want to hide my opac and itranet koha with domains. And i have to configure the DNS of each domain
08:49 Joubu                What are you trying to do? A DNS will map your public IP address with your domain name.
08:47 NikolayGospodinov[m] I think it should be here: /etc/network/interfaces?
08:47 NikolayGospodinov[m] I have not configure DNS records  on the server
08:46 Joubu                where you configure your DNS records
08:45 NikolayGospodinov[m] And where to add them?
08:45 Joubu                krimsonkharne[m]: actually rtd theme includes FA icons
08:45 Joubu                If you have new domains then yes you need to add new entries for them
08:42 NikolayGospodinov[m] What about the DNS for the domains
08:41 Joubu                NikolayGospodinov[m]: Yes it's better to have different domains
08:41 Joubu                krimsonkharne[m]: maybe with that https://pypi.org/project/sphinx_fontawesome/
08:40 NikolayGospodinov[m] My OPAC and Intranet are with same IP address but with different ports. Do I need to domains?
08:39 NikolayGospodinov[m] And do I have to set up the DNS of the domain as well?
08:38 Joubu                with certs, etc
08:38 Joubu                replace 80 with 443 in the apache's vhost
08:38 Joubu                Otherwise it's like any other websites
08:38 huginn`              krimsonkharne[m]: The operation succeeded.
08:38 krimsonkharne[m]     @later tell aude_c can I use font-awesome icons in the manual?
08:37 Joubu                --letsencrypt option of koha-create should do everything for you
08:36 NikolayGospodinov[m] And how to do this
08:36 Joubu                NikolayGospodinov[m]: yes of course
08:35 NikolayGospodinov[m] Hello! I have a questino? Can Koha be made to work under https
08:34 huginn`              Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:34 Joubu                @later tell marcelr could you deal with a 35445 follow-up to adjust opac-shareshelf.pl?
08:34 krimsonkharne[m]     aude_c: around?
08:33 krimsonkharne[m]     docmeeting today :)
08:33 krimsonkharne[m]     morning all!
07:36 reiveune             hello
07:32 fridolin             yellow
07:09 magnuse              \o/
04:36 wajasu               I've been running 22.05.03.000   since summer of 2023
04:35 pastebot             "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "GOOD robots.txt with 3% CPU now. probably those webcrawlers walkjin the opac search" (26 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/37131
04:33 pastebot             "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "BAD robots.txt for my OPAC. kept CPU at 30%." (26 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/37130
04:29 wajasu               well. i finally found out what slowed my koha down.  my robots.txt was affecting my cpu making it 30% all the time