Time  Nick                 Message
01:18 mtj                  hi tcohen, can you get them to log a bug, re http-tiny?
01:18 mtj                  ..i had a look, and it seems ok to me
01:34 mtj                  hmm, seems the pkg is removed from deb11
01:34 mtj                  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=962407
01:54 mtj                  ...but is included in 'perl' pkg, instead
01:56 mtj                  so, looks like everything should be ok, for all supported deb/ubuntu versions
02:44 saa                  how to correctly import date acquired date in 952$d
02:45 saa                  though we tried to import from excel to marc and then to koha after import the date does not get imported properly and it brings wrong date
02:46 saa                  can anyone suggest how to configure excel properly especially for date and then import data in marc and then to koha
07:05 marcelr              o/
07:06 ashimema             Morning #koha
07:12 reiveune             hello
07:14 marcelr              hi ashimema reiveune
07:15 Joubu                @later tell tuxayo did you have a look at my alternative patch on 35506?
07:15 huginn`              Joubu: The operation succeeded.
07:16 Joubu                hi marcelr, ashimema!
07:16 marcelr              o/
07:16 Joubu                marcelr: seen sec bug?
07:17 Joubu                you will love it, it's about auth :D
07:18 ashimema             /me is grumpy about the security release.. we really must get better at this :-(
07:18 marcelr              yeah, this did not look good
07:19 marcelr              Joubu, yes I saw about AutoLocation
07:37 Joubu                marcelr: fun on bug 35918 as well...
07:37 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35918 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, ASSIGNED , Incorrect library used when AutoLocation configured using the same IP
07:38 marcelr              hmm does not recommend using AutoLocation
07:39 Joubu                not if you think it will protect you...
07:39 marcelr              i would use iptables or nginx etc to do so
07:40 Joubu                code from 2006..
07:40 marcelr              remove it !
07:40 marcelr              how many people use it ? is it on HEA?
07:42 Joubu                173
07:53 Joubu                marcelr: patch coming, writing test
07:54 marcelr              yes thats not very much :)
07:57 tuxayo               Joubu: hi :) I've seen the notifications, I'll look in the details and try to test quickly.
07:58 marcelr              107 in PQA ?!
08:05 fridolin             yellow
08:07 ashimema             108
08:08 ashimema             45 of which are marked as Bugs
08:08 ashimema             cait is waiting on security release too
08:08 ashimema             everything it backlogs
08:08 ashimema             backlogged
08:08 ashimema             even
08:08 ashimema             130 in the QA queue too
08:08 ashimema             the numbers are upsetting right now
08:09 cait                 yeah, the plan is to unlock it a bit today
08:09 cait                 I might need help with a rebase for the one patch later on, but I think that's the smaller price
08:09 cait                 we agreed to open up the datatables bug, right?
08:09 ashimema             yes
08:10 cait                 shoudl we do it immediately or do I just push and we do it later on?
08:10 ashimema             done
08:10 cait                 ok, so I need to tidy ma branch a little, then will resume
08:12 tuxayo               > waiting on security release too
08:12 tuxayo               bug 35687 should be included, right?
08:12 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35687 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Upgrade to 23.06.00.013 may fail
08:12 tuxayo               > we agreed to open up the datatables bug, right?
08:12 tuxayo               got my answer ^^
08:12 cait                 we are ina bad in between state now
08:13 cait                 most branches are ready, some are not
08:13 Joubu                @later tell khall ping 35353 :)
08:13 huginn`              Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:13 cait                 the older ones had trouble with backporting
08:13 Joubu                @later tell kidclamp can you ping khall for 35353 for me please :)
08:13 huginn`              Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:16 ashimema             Where is the 22.11 security branch.. it's not in the repos yet at all
08:18 cait                 I think not pushed because of the failing test
08:18 cait                 fredericd: around maybe?
08:19 Joubu                tcohen: please have a look at bug 35353 comment 5. (related with 35247 and 35560)
08:19 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35353 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Add API endpoint to fetch patron's previous holds
08:19 Joubu                3 different implemtation for the same thing, do not change koha...
08:19 Joubu                @later tell tcohen please have a look at bug 35353 comment 5. (related with 35247 and 35560)
08:19 huginn`              Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:21 ashimema             We could help if it was pushed
08:21 ashimema             Whilst it's only on his pc it's hard for us to help
08:21 ashimema             And very hard for those below to backport
08:27 ashimema             cait++
08:31 cait                 I guess great minds think alike ;)
08:33 marcelr              great_minds++
08:36 Joubu                cait: did you see my reply about the failing tests?
08:36 Joubu                tests are failing for months on this branch
08:37 cait                 I think they didn't know as they are trying to fill in
08:38 cait                 if someone took a look and verified it's not related to the backports it would probably help?
08:38 cait                 also... shoudl we not still fix them?
08:39 Joubu                actually provided fixes to fix them...
08:39 Joubu                2 months ago
08:39 Joubu                they didn't know?
08:39 Joubu                jenkins?
08:40 Joubu                I told them it is failing for months, and provided fix 2 months ago, not sure what else I can do...
08:40 Joubu                and I am out of this now
08:40 cait                 the patches are ont hte bugs?
08:40 Joubu                please read my last email
08:40 cait                 just found it
08:42 Joubu                marcelr: bug 35817 comment 3... hum... did you read the diff?
08:42 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35817 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Failed QA , Wrong hint on patron's category when batch update patron
08:42 cait                 hm my ktd up with elastic takes unusually long today
08:43 cait                 hm ok - Elastic is just complainy
08:44 marcelr              no Joubu, qa tools complained
09:18 ashimema             we really need an api coding guideline around 'old' endpoints
09:18 ashimema             I'm fed up of getting stuck in the same discussions each time
09:20 Joubu                we have one, for checkouts. IMO we should implement the same (consistency) for holds.
09:21 Joubu                that's my implementation. There are two others :D
09:21 Joubu                we do not have a coding guideline, but an "old" endpoints
09:22 ashimema             yes.. we should add a guidelines to match the existing implimentation
09:22 ashimema             I'd still like to merge those tables and encourage Tomas to rebase that piece
09:22 ashimema             for holds in particular
09:22 ashimema             he did a nice job there and I don't know why it got stuck
09:43 cait                 Joubu: can you remind me where to find the meeting tempalte?
09:43 cait                 i want to fix the Jitsi
09:49 Joubu                https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_Template
09:49 cait                 thank you
09:50 ashimema             I alreadty did cait
09:50 cait                 ashimema++
09:50 ashimema             your irc is shit
09:50 cait                 yeah, I realized that now! :)
09:50 ashimema             I PM'd you in three different places ☹️
09:50 ashimema             seems you didn't get any of them
09:50 cait                 i guess the others are the old matrix ones .( I was not aware they are still around
09:50 cait                 I don't see them
09:51 cait                 I have turned it off as it created more problems witht he double up than it was helping
09:51 ashimema             I have hundreds of them
09:51 * ashimema           is tired
09:51 cait                 same
09:51 cait                 been a long week
09:51 cait                 I have a meeting now, but I have the datatable patches ready to go - will put a bit on top and push later
09:54 Joubu                I will stop writing patches for security bugs, so that we won't have to plan other security releases
09:54 cait                 I undertand where you are coming from, but I believe that might not be the ideal solution
09:57 marcelr              Joubu: i know that feeling ;)
09:58 marcelr              lets stop with enhancements too
09:58 davewood_            after a bulkimport.pl the background workers have issues. Koha version: 23.11.00.000 (details: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/19653)
09:59 marcelr              davewood_: there are no issues with background jobs :)
09:59 Joubu                marcelr: I am all for bugfixes and refactoring only!
09:59 davewood_            marcelr: what do you mean?
09:59 Joubu                davewood_: bug 35819
09:59 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35819 critical, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , "No job found" error for BatchUpdateBiblioHoldsQueue (race condition)
10:00 marcelr              davewood_: there are
10:00 marcelr              too much
10:00 marcelr              they will be solved in 31.05
10:00 Joubu                davewood_: can you confirm what are the background_jobs.type values for the ones stuck in "new"?
10:00 marcelr              sorry
10:01 Joubu                35819 is the only critical one
10:01 Joubu                known
10:01 marcelr              hmm
10:02 marcelr              Joubu does your bonus plan include credits for FQA :)
10:03 ashimema             I was pondering a response to that this morning
10:03 ashimema             but it was too early and my brain hadn't full woken up
10:03 marcelr              and now it is too late already lol
10:03 ashimema             I'm not sure about it.. I think a lot of the issue isn't individuals.. it's companies and sponsors etc
10:03 Joubu                marcelr: everything is possible ;)
10:04 ashimema             I do think it's cool on a personal level though 🙂
10:04 marcelr              i am thinking that we should not spend too much time on it?
10:04 ashimema             agreed
10:04 marcelr              we know that dashboard numbers dont tell the whole story
10:05 Joubu                we were looking for a solution yesterday to highlight what was done better
10:05 marcelr              yeah
10:05 davewood_            select type, count(*) from background_jobs where status='new' group by type; => update_elastic_index | 129311
10:06 marcelr              awful
10:06 ashimema             I tried to encourage more use of git trailers
10:06 davewood_            is there a workaround that i can apply manually?
10:07 marcelr              look at that bug, but it is unfinished business
10:07 Joubu                and a side-project with fun technologies, starting from scratch, with (let's dream) have a correct management (kanban, etc.) could help add motivation to some devs as well
10:07 Joubu                anyway, I won't push for it, my time is too limited for now
10:07 davewood_            i did look into the bug, i mean something like restarting some service that reruns the jobs.
10:07 ashimema             I think I'd rather see more public 'Badges' or something that both individuals or companies could use to highlight their staff's involvement (or individuals put on github for example to highlight their personal envolvement)
10:08 ashimema             anywho.. I'm letting myself get distracted.. I looked into this sort of thing a while ago
10:08 Joubu                davewood_: if it's just index, full reindex
10:08 davewood_            alright, thanks
10:08 davewood_            Joubu++
10:09 Joubu                ashimema: the number of * could be a 1k* badge for individual, or you could have "teams" as well, representing the companie
10:09 Joubu                s
10:10 ashimema             mm
10:11 marcelr              maybe we should stop with supporting too much versions ?
10:11 ashimema             LOL
10:11 ashimema             I really argued against LTS
10:11 ashimema             and was overruled
10:11 marcelr              the current problems prove that you were right
10:11 marcelr              you shoudl also receive credit for that
10:12 ashimema             haha
10:12 marcelr              ashimema++
10:12 ashimema             I wish I wasn't 😜
10:12 * ashimema           steps away for a few minutes.. I can feel myself slipping towards being grumpy again and will divert by doing some more QA
10:13 marcelr              great
10:13 Joubu                be brave and use master
10:13 ashimema             bug 34623 could be a fairly simple QA
10:13 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34623 is not accessible.
10:13 ashimema             I couldn't find any issues in testing..
10:13 * ashimema           would love a rolling release of builds that happen whenever Jenkins is green
10:14 ashimema             ptfs-e and bywater are both working towards tracking stable at the moment
10:14 ashimema             so we're getting closer and closer to just going for it
10:15 Joubu                jenkins for master and stables should be green, always. Hence my suggestion to have "wip" branches on which we would run the full test suite and the push to the branches would be done by CI only if green
10:15 ashimema             I agree with that
10:15 marcelr              sounds good
10:16 ashimema             that's actually basically how our .ptfs branches work with Jenkins now
10:16 ashimema             we trigger a package build on a successful test run
10:17 ashimema             we have a .ptfs branch which is just a little ahead of current stable.. as we push we watch Jenkins.. if it passes great.. we autobuild our package, push it to our repositories and it gets installed on servers shortly after
10:17 ashimema             if it fails, the package doesn't attempt to build at all.. we have to go fix it to pass tests before the build will happen
10:33 ashimema             marcelr still around?
10:38 marcelr              yeah just a but
10:38 marcelr              bit
10:41 ashimema             on bug 20065 you talk about plugins to maintain PID's in records
10:41 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20065 new feature, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Perennial or persistent identifier implementation
10:41 ashimema             do you have an example anywhere?
10:41 ashimema             is your one open?
10:42 marcelr              yes i have them but the code is private
10:42 marcelr              i could share with you surely
10:43 marcelr              send me a pm a reminder
10:43 marcelr              as
10:43 ashimema             thanks 🙂
10:44 marcelr              SO 117 and PQA 114
10:50 ashimema             marcelr++
10:52 marcelr              ok now we are below PQA with SO
10:52 marcelr              two trivials
10:54 marcelr              for credits i suggest to multiply PQA * FQA :)
11:03 marcelr              cu l8r
11:20 tcohen               happy friday #koha o/
11:23 oleonard             Busy morning!
11:33 PedroAmorim[m]       @marcelr++
11:33 huginn`              PedroAmorim[m]: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
11:34 PedroAmorim[m]       marcel++
11:34 PedroAmorim[m]       I'm trash at this =D
11:34 PedroAmorim[m]       marcelr++
11:34 tcohen               PedroAmorim[m]
11:34 PedroAmorim[m]       there we go
11:34 tcohen               PedroAmorim[m]++
12:24 cait                 tracking stable is fine if you have the resources for it
12:25 cait                 I think we can reduce the number of versions at elast by one, but I want to keep the LTS
12:25 cait                 the 3 RMaints version was voted against...
12:29 ashimema             xslt is hard ☹️
12:41 Joubu                xslt is not for a Friday afternoon
12:44 aw-bib[m]            > tracking stable is fine if you have the resources for it
12:44 aw-bib[m]            even though I know well that developers hate this, working at some small library I can tell from quite a few other projects that tacking a stable version released twice a year is quite challenging.  diplomatically avoiding terms with a tendency towards "impossible" ;) (we e.g. have _no_ library IT) however, I have not yet enough experience with the deb-updates wrt inner changes. the ones I explicitly tried were quite painless.
12:44 aw-bib[m]            ym2ct
12:51 magnuse              @quote get random
12:51 huginn`              magnuse: Error: 'random' is not a valid id.
12:51 magnuse              @quote random
12:51 huginn`              magnuse: Quote #208: "<mtompset> Tonight... I tango with git." (added by jcamins at 03:01 PM, June 28, 2012)
12:51 magnuse              @quote add Joubu> xslt is not for a Friday afternoon
12:51 huginn`              magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
12:52 magnuse              @quote add <Joubu> xslt is not for a Friday afternoon
12:52 huginn`              magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
12:53 fridolin             cait: hi, whooo blocker Bug 35687 i should wait for it to be in my next release right ?
12:53 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35687 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Upgrade to 23.06.00.013 may fail
12:53 fridolin             cait: any idea when it comes to master ?
12:53 magnuse              @quote add "<Joubu> xslt is not for a Friday afternoon"
12:53 huginn`              magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
12:53 * magnuse            gives up
12:56 fridolin             ashimema: what XSLT pb ?
12:57 ashimema             it's not really a problem per say
12:57 ashimema             it's just writing one from scratch is hard.. it's a labour
12:57 ashimema             bug 30554
12:57 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30554 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Use XSLT in authority search cataloguing plugin
12:57 ashimema             I was trying to produce a MARC21 template that matches the non-xslt view
12:58 fridolin             ah sure
12:58 ashimema             and whilst I got a fair bit through it.. there's loads more to go
12:58 ashimema             Julian did that for UNIMARC on the dependency bug.. at least I think that's what his template does
12:58 ashimema             not knowing UNIMARC I can't really comment
12:58 fridolin             it creates a minimal display
12:58 ashimema             the one on that bug does
12:59 ashimema             mine enhances that a lot
12:59 fridolin             that will be a good start for custom display ;)
12:59 ashimema             but on bug 11083 he did a much more advanced template.. but unimarc only
12:59 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11083 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, RESOLVED FIXED, Authority search result display in staff interface should be XSLT driven
12:59 fridolin             one day we may consider using a more friendly code, maybe JavaScript, everyboady knows it ;)
13:00 ashimema             yeah
13:00 ashimema             xslt is such a nightmare
13:00 ashimema             marc is hard enough to understand.. but then trying to translate it using xslt for display is just.. yuk
13:00 fridolin             indeed, even does not allow HTML5 tags
13:00 fridolin             must be XHTML
13:00 * oleonard           has heard of JavaScript
13:00 ashimema             indeed
13:00 fridolin             ^^
13:01 fridolin             some first websites uses to be done with HTML generated client-side with an XSLT :D
13:02 Joubu                "it's fast" I think is why we keep it
13:02 NikolayGospodinov[m] I have a question. I will be replacing a current Koch database with another one. The name of the current database is koha_k7000 and the new one is koha_lib04. How to perform the substitution
13:02 fridolin             but so poor in programming skils
13:03 fridolin             not even a if else ^^
13:05 cait                 fridolin: today
13:05 cait                 it's the plan, I had a meeting this morning, but back on RM duty now (after lunch and making fresh tea)
13:06 oleonard             @quote add Joubu> xslt is not for a Friday afternoon
13:06 huginn`              oleonard: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
13:07 cait                 XSLT is fun, I don't know what your issue is ;)
13:07 oleonard             huginn` has very strict identification controls
13:07 huginn`              oleonard: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
13:16 oleonard             PedroAmorim[m] around?
13:16 PedroAmorim[m]       hey
13:17 oleonard             Hi Pedro, I was just looking at Bug 35908
13:17 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35908 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , There is no length limit for what's presented in datatables
13:17 oleonard             I think there is a CSS alternative that would work well
13:18 oleonard             Set a max-width on the <select>, and set text-overflow on the select to "ellipsis"
13:19 cait                 I like CSS
13:19 oleonard             This method would have the advantage of allowing the full text in the expanded dropdown
13:20 Joubu                oleonard: see also bug 34574, maybe you will find a nice solution as well ;)
13:20 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34574 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pedro.amorim, Signed Off , Datatables dropdown filter column header is potentially too wide
13:20 cait                 aw-bib[m]: the problem is doing updates for 140 libraries that all use different features etc :)
13:20 Joubu                oleonard: from commen t5
13:21 aw-bib[m]            @cait I support your argument for longer release cycles. updating 1 library with no staff might be as tricky as your 140 ;)
13:21 huginn`              aw-bib[m]: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
13:21 PedroAmorim[m]       oleonard: hey yeah thanks! I've tried a lot of different CSS solutions in bug 34574 without any fruitful success
13:22 Joubu                oleonard: well, it's exactly what you are talking about!
13:22 oleonard             yeah Joubu I hadn't seen that part
13:22 cait                 ok, glad we agree ;D
13:23 cait                 fridolin: i got the bug on my branch now, push will dfinitely happen
13:23 aw-bib[m]            cait: we perfectly agree on this end. we tried once to track invenio stable. no chance.
13:24 cait                 I think there is use cases for everything... I undestand some need earlier access to specific features, but for most libraries they don't want a lot of updates/changes constantly
13:24 cait                 I know some of the bigger library systems have also cut back on releases
13:24 aw-bib[m]            (one reason for koha, if you need an arguement, was the release cylce for invenio3 and the number of devops to track that.)
13:25 cait                 how often do they release?
13:25 fridolin             great
13:25 PedroAmorim[m]       Joubu: my last patch in bug 34574 is meant to be the end of it (from me anyway). I think adding the CSS class is the best most elegant way of providing an easy option to those who wish to address this through CSS
13:25 aw-bib[m]            bascially, they try 4 a year and I think they support back 2 versions or so.
13:26 PedroAmorim[m]       Joubu: Bug 35908 is the place where the "real" issue is to be discussed, imo anyway
13:26 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35908 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , There is no length limit for what's presented in datatables
13:26 aw-bib[m]            and of course not packaing.
13:26 cait                 hm so that give snot much time for updating then, I see
13:27 aw-bib[m]            i tried hard to exlain them. and failed.
13:28 aw-bib[m]            koha is a bit easier as it's an apt install. so I am sort of confident that you don't run away  ;)
13:36 paulderscheid[m]     Quick question is biblio -> biblioitem always a one-to-one relationship>
13:36 paulderscheid[m]     ?
13:37 oleonard             Yes, unless you're using Koha 1.x :)
13:37 paulderscheid[m]     Thanks oleonard
13:49 magnuse              is there a way to tell what ip koha is seeing me as coming from when i use ktd on my local machine?
13:50 cait                 hm apache log?
13:50 Joubu                docker inspect -f '{{range .NetworkSettings.Networks}}{{.IPAddress}}{{end}}' koha-koha-1
13:50 Joubu                or you want the reverse
13:51 cait                 oleonard: should the "dot" be there? https://snipboard.io/MUGQXh.jpg
13:51 Joubu                ip addr should show you docker0 with the IP
13:52 oleonard             cait: It is intentional, as a divider, but obviously is inconsistent with the | divider above it
13:52 oleonard             (not a change made by the patch)
13:53 cait                 yeah, I will still push the patch, I was just wondering
13:54 magnuse              Joubu: thanks!
14:02 oleonard             I remember the wild west days where multiple folks had privilege to push in CVS and we just PUSHED STUFF XD
14:03 Joubu                ho yes, the sec bug from this morning.. :D
14:03 Joubu                not that bad but still..
14:04 magnuse              Joubu: yeah, having a look. cait's tip about the logs worked better for the ip, though :-)
14:08 tcohen               hey y'all, can we just merge reserves and old_reserves for good this cycle?
14:09 cait                 once you got the security releases out... you can do whatever you want - you get a free pass from me ;)
14:09 cait                 first big push incoming soon'ish
14:12 ashimema             is it applying tcohen
14:12 ashimema             I'm well and truly onboard with that one
14:13 cait                 50 commits :D
14:13 caroline             cait++
14:14 cait                 caroline: let's see what we break first ;)
14:14 caroline             eh, it's early still
14:15 cait                 for you :)
14:15 kidclamp             bug 35518 - eyes please?
14:15 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35518 critical, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Call to C4::Context->userenv happens before it's gets populated breaks code logic
14:16 Joubu                everybody asking help :D
14:16 Joubu                can I as well?
14:16 Joubu                we actually need a swap market app
14:17 kidclamp             :-)
14:17 cait                 swap review and dev stuff?
14:17 tcohen               Anything
14:18 cait                 cookies?
14:20 tcohen               Definitely
14:21 Joubu                there is security bugs otherwise, with patches...
14:22 Joubu                should just be highest priority for everybody but... well...
14:22 Joubu                not for a Friday afternoon I guess
14:23 tcohen               the AutoLocation one?
14:23 tcohen               (s)
14:24 Joubu                for example
14:25 cait                 fridolin: it's pushed
14:28 AbhinavJoshi[m]      hello ! where can I get help and my issues resolved
14:28 caroline             AbhinavJoshi[m], depends on the issues, but here or the mailing list are good starting points
14:29 caroline             ask your question and if someone can answer, they will
14:29 AbhinavJoshi[m]      Okayy Thank you !
14:29 AbhinavJoshi[m]      I created a MARC framework but after saving the framework adding bibliographic information the next page shows blank. While I have added 952tag in the file.
14:30 * AbhinavJoshi[m]    posted a file: (7KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/qCGXwHkTrxLZIJSQMiLUfxOZ/customize%20frameworkkk.csv >
14:30 caroline             are all the subfields for 952 in the tab "10"?
14:31 AbhinavJoshi[m]      I don't think so
14:31 caroline             well, 10 or "ignore"
14:31 Joubu                kidclamp: 35518 - how do we catch other possible occurrences?
14:31 caroline             you can run the framework test, it might give you a hint on what's wrong
14:33 caroline             Ah, I think I see the problem. Make sure all the 952 subfields you need have "Editor" checked
14:34 caroline             oh I see some are at 0, that should be visible
14:34 caroline             I thought I saw they were all at hidden=5
14:35 AbhinavJoshi[m]      yeah some are hidden at 5
14:35 caroline             that should be ok I think
14:36 AbhinavJoshi[m]      caroline: I'll check & test
14:36 kidclamp             Joubu: I guess we need to check that 'userenv' never comes before get_templte or check_api_auth? or whatever routines we can use for auth
14:40 cait                 working on the next batch of bug fixes...
14:41 caroline             AbhinavJoshi[m], I tried the framework, and I see the page to add items. I don't think the problem is with the framework
14:41 cait                 Joubu: jenkins hasn't started yet - is that to be expected?
14:42 Joubu                gitlab needs to mirror
14:42 cait                 hm ok
14:43 AbhinavJoshi[m]      caroline: owww
14:43 caroline             are you able to add items with other frameworks?
14:44 AbhinavJoshi[m]      I saw it too now
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14:44 caroline             ha! yay! :)
14:49 AbhinavJoshi[m]      caroline thank you  so much
14:49 caroline             AbhinavJoshi[m], you're very welcome, I love a good resolution :)
15:24 oleonard             Oh yay! DataTables upgrade!
15:24 ashimema             oooh..
15:24 ashimema             chatgpt does a half decent job on refactoring xslt 🙂
15:33 caroline             I've found it's pretty good with code and composing texts. Dont ask for facts though ;)
15:34 caroline             I asked it to explain the FindDuplicate function to me "in layman's terms" the other day, and it did a pretty good job of breaking it down and explaining it to me
15:35 Joubu                only AI can explain FindDuplicate
15:35 caroline             lol!
15:36 Joubu                next time try with get_template_and_user
15:50 krimsonkharne[m]     see if it can explain holds logic...
15:57 AbhinavJoshi[m]      which MARC tags should I include for a customized framework for Books?
15:59 cait                 you always want LDR
15:59 cait                 never delete/hide that one
15:59 cait                 also 990
16:00 caroline             990?
16:00 cait                 biblionumber?
16:00 caroline             999
16:00 cait                 oh :)
16:00 cait                 you are right
16:00 cait                 but are we talking empty framework or just something where fields are hidden?
16:00 caroline             ok I thought I was missing something lol
16:01 caroline             000, 008, 952 (items), 999 (hidden) are the minimum I think
16:01 caroline             and title 245 of couerse
16:01 caroline             *course
16:01 cait                 oh no
16:01 cait                 we got a failing test
16:01 cait                 all yellooow
16:01 cait                 hm or 9
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16:02 cait                 hm that's odd, I ran the qa tools on it: not ok - Test::Perl::Critic for "C4/Utils/DataTables/VirtualShelves.pm"
16:02 AbhinavJoshi[m]      i have included these
16:02 caroline             You'll probably have to add 999 like cait said
16:03 AbhinavJoshi[m]      okkk
16:03 caroline             and I don't know if it makes a difference 000 vs 0 or 20 vs 020
16:03 cait                 oleonard: still arond?
16:37 cait                 hm I ran a lot of the tests locally... but didn't see the datatables issues, I need to work on my process too
17:18 reiveune             bye