Time  Nick                 Message
22:51 bwv582               I should have known better!
22:51 bwv582               I thought it was going to be an easy apt upgrade
22:50 bwv582               davidnind: Thanks. I am still trying to get clear on what the error actually means. Looking at the bugzilla page will help, I think.
21:40 davidnind            I do try to keep them succinct, but sometimes it is not possible
21:40 davidnind            Not sure whether that is configurable in Bugzilla or not
21:40 davidnind            It would be ideal if all the text in the release note field was displayed when viewing it though...
21:39 caroline             ah maybe that is the difference... it is not normally editable so it is fixed...
21:38 davidnind            For me, I can only make it bigger when I edit it
21:32 caroline             or maybe adapt the length to the content? I don't know which would be easier, if any is possible at all
21:31 caroline             When release notes are long, I find they are hard to read...
21:31 caroline             on bugzilla, is there any way to make the "Text to go in release notes" box bigger in the browser? I mean like in some places you can drag the corner of a text box to make it bigger when the text is long
21:07 davidnind            (if that was the chatter you were referring to.... 8-) )
21:07 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35687 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Upgrade to 23.06.00.013 may fail
21:07 davidnind            About what changes to make manually to fix an upgrade issue - bug 35687
21:04 ashimema             I think I missed some chatter there...
21:02 davidnind            ^^ if you share the output from the two database statements I used in the paste, and add them to the bug (along with your database version) it may provide some clues to help others troubleshoot
20:59 pastebot             "davidnind" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Databse structure for master" (54 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/35769
20:59 davidnind            As always, testing on a development/testing system is recommended
20:59 davidnind            bwv582: Sorry, I don't know enough to advise you on how to manually make the changes - the database structure needs to be changed, so I think it is the statements in the "Upgrade to 23.06.00.013 may fail" patch
20:37 bwv582               davidnind: Thank you. I see what looks like two patch files there. Do I need them both?
19:01 caroline             also, I've found that the interface will give an error as if the import has failed, but it continues in the background anyway. If you check the database (like select count(*) from biblio) you'll see the number of records continues to increase even after the interface has stopped
18:59 caroline             saa, you can use the bulkmarcimport.pl script found under misc/migration_tools if I remember correctly
18:47 saa                  while staging records through browser if the number of records are more the stage records fails how to handle data import with more than 50000 records importing into batch in one go
16:56 fridolin             bye bye
16:43 reiveune             bye
16:38 ashimema             okies
16:38 tcohen               packing to go work downtown now
16:38 tcohen               can take a look later
16:37 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29509 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, In Discussion , GET /patrons* routes permissions excessive
16:37 ashimema             any further thoughts on bug 29509 tcohen?
16:35 ashimema             permissions are horrible
16:35 ashimema             such a mess
16:35 ashimema             ah yes
16:34 tcohen               cataloguing permissions is 'editcatalogue'
16:33 tcohen               catalogue => staff access
16:33 tcohen               catalogue != cataloguing
16:29 ashimema             why does the api 'List biblios' endpoint require full cataloguing permissions!
16:28 ashimema             hmm
16:24 caroline             I admit I don't understand completely the thing with the periods like 245.0.a.0
16:23 caroline             I had asked last week, but in the evening here and there weren.'t a lot of people around
16:23 ashimema             no harm in asking for more eyes 😜
16:22 ashimema             hehe
16:22 caroline             thanks ashimema!
16:22 caroline             ah oops lol!
16:22 ashimema             aude_c already asked here 😜
16:22 ashimema             it all reads sane to me caroline
16:22 caroline             If there are any TT experts, or anyone who uses TT a lot (no need to be an expert) around, could you check what I wrote here https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/merge_requests/812/diffs#ea8c4f0ce0ff703ce10a68a5522cf24841a8681a_2735_2809
16:05 caroline             we have never tested the windows one as we all have ubuntu computers
16:04 caroline             I think marie-luce tested the firefox plugin recently and she told me it works
16:04 caroline             oh ok thanks!
16:03 oleonard             Not sure about the Firefox addon (does that still work?)
16:03 oleonard             I think it's used by the Windows program
16:02 caroline             do any of you know if the misc/cronjobs/create_koc_db.pl script is useful for the external offline circ tools or only the deprecated built-in one?
15:25 Brendan__CLAMS       that seems possible although kinda hackish
15:24 Brendan__CLAMS       my other thought is to write javascript that if the form has a multiselect it would prevent the default submission of the form and format the multi select values into one sql_param, so then the perl should more or less just do it's current thing
15:22 Brendan__CLAMS       but in the SQL reports, all parameters are in one array, so I need to possibly change how that works by changing the name prop on the multi select, or figure some other way to parse it to get the multiselect values separately
15:20 Brendan__CLAMS       ya my understanding is that multi_param function grabs an array (maybe wrong terminology as I'm new to perl) of all the url params that have the same name
15:19 emlam                oh wait never mind. Obviously I didn't understand how the templates work enough to understand your question ^_^;;
15:17 emlam                (it pulls the report ids if you have selected multiple reports to delete)
15:16 emlam                I don't totally follow how the template/.pl file interactions work either, but this line from later in the file looks like it may be the structure you need: my @ids = $input->multi_param('ids');
15:15 oleonard             What controls whether a hold cancellation notice is sent?
15:14 caroline             might be controversial, but I've asked chatgpt for help in perl in the past (I don't know perl either)
15:10 georgew              I don't think Ihave any libraries using hold cancellation reasons, so I'm can't help much there.
15:10 Brendan__CLAMS       actually the main problem is I've never written perl code before :)
15:09 Brendan__CLAMS       the main problem is that all the sql_param_names and the sql_params in the url get stored as arrays, and then handled one at a time, the multi select just sends extra sql_params in the url and I need to somehow handle that in guided_reports.pl
15:06 oleonard             Brendan__CLAMS: That will be very cool if you're able to get it working (I'm no help unfortunately)
15:06 oleonard             georgew: We're talking about whether hold cancellation reasons should appear in the OPAC on the patron's holds history page
15:05 georgew              I had to step away for a minute so I only caught part of the conversation, so I'm not sure what the context is.  Which authorized value are you messing around with?
15:04 georgew              Yes.
15:04 oleonard             georgew: The only problem with that is if the authval is displayed inside parentheses you'll get "( )"
15:04 georgew              I've used that trick in the past.  I'm imagining it still works
15:04 huginn`              04Bug 35746: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, blawlor, NEW , Multiple selections for parameters used in the IN function
15:03 Brendan__CLAMS       I started working on this bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35746 got something partly implemented but now I'm stuck
15:03 caroline             thanks georgew! I wondered if that was possible or if it only considered the space as "nothing" therefore using the regular description
15:02 georgew              The way to have an authorized value description be visible in the staff interface and appear blank in the OPAC is to put a blank space in the OPAC description for that authorized value
15:02 oleonard             Yes
15:02 Brendan__CLAMS       is this a place where I can ask about how a part of Koha code works?
15:01 aude_c[m]            ashimema++
15:01 aude_c[m]            Thanks
14:59 ashimema             I'll ask Joubu about it.. the script hasn't worked for me in a while
14:58 aude_c[m]            I've added the links of the minutes and date of next meeting to today's page (and fixed the categories), but someone still needs to generate the next meeting page and add it to Next IRC meetings
14:57 aude_c[m]            Regarding the General meeting... I think you guys use the magic script to generate the next meeting page? Leaving that to the people who know đŸ˜Ŧ
14:54 caroline             yeah, it would have to be a preference imo, or maybe a different table column that we could hide in table settings
14:53 caroline             lol!
14:53 oleonard             Put in the OPAC description for every hold cancellation reason: "To reiterate, the hold was cancelled"
14:53 ashimema             😉
14:53 ashimema             anywho.. I'm spitballing
14:53 ashimema             so it would be an entirely different thing to hide in opac instead
14:53 ashimema             exactly
14:52 caroline             otherwise, the regular description is used both in staff and opac
14:52 caroline             I always instruct clients to write an OPAC description only if they want it to be different in the OPAC
14:51 ashimema             but that would be a big change to current flows
14:51 ashimema             might be nice if you could hide from opac just by leaving the value blank
14:51 caroline             normally yes
14:51 ashimema             though do we fallback to staff description if opac is empty.. I can't remember
14:51 ashimema             that's what I'd expect
14:51 ashimema             yup
14:50 caroline             It's an authorised value correct? We could show the "OPAC description" of the reason so libraries could put a user-friendly reason in the OPAC description and a staff reason in the description...
14:49 caroline             yeah, it's not in the OPAC.... I don't know if we want it there? I think for transparency it's good, but a lot of libraries want stuff hidden in hte opac for practical reasons
14:47 oleonard             Shouldn't it also be in the OPAC?
14:47 caroline             checking the opac too
14:47 caroline             Yes I just tried it, it's on that page
14:47 oleonard             Oh now I see it on the holds history page in the staff interface
14:45 oleonard             Is it only used in notices?
14:45 oleonard             Do we not display the hold cancellation reason anywhere?
14:44 ashimema             pass
14:44 ashimema             you might be able to do something with CSS somewhere for those barcode numbers?
14:43 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30819 normal, P5 - low, ---, thibaud.guillot, NEW , Not able to adjust size of the plain text barcode below the actual barcode
14:43 caroline             re bug 30819
14:43 kellym               aude_c++ @ashimema++
14:42 caroline             TriveniChandriki[m], I don't think it's possible to increase the font of the barcode numbers, if that's what you meant
14:41 thd                  Henriette++
14:41 * ashimema           slinks off to his next meeting..
14:40 oleonard             ashimema++
14:40 oleonard             aude_c[m]++
14:38 ashimema             thanks for your help there aude_c
14:38 caroline             ashimema++ aude_c++
14:38 huginn`              Log:            https://meetings.koha-community.org/2024/general_irc_meeting_17_january_2024.2024-01-17-14.01.log.html
14:38 huginn`              Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2024/general_irc_meeting_17_january_2024.2024-01-17-14.01.txt
14:38 huginn`              Minutes:        https://meetings.koha-community.org/2024/general_irc_meeting_17_january_2024.2024-01-17-14.01.html
14:38 huginn`              Meeting ended Wed Jan 17 14:38:14 2024 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:38 ashimema             #endmeeting
14:38 ashimema             #info Thanks to everyone who attended 🙂
14:38 fridolin             thanks a lot for chairing
14:37 ashimema             we can tweak the time a little if I've got timezones and daylight savings wrong 😜
14:37 aude_c[m]            Thanks everyone!
14:37 ashimema             #info Next meeting: 15 May 2024, 14 UTC
14:37 oleonard             Yes, this time is good
14:37 Brendan__CLAMS       sounds good to me
14:36 georgew              I'll make it work
14:36 ashimema             does this time work well for people?
14:36 fridolin             we have May 1 and 8 free so many are on extended holidays
14:36 ashimema             OK.. 15th
14:36 ashimema             still gives us a week to collar any extra's we want to pull in for the team
14:36 fridolin             15th sound better indeed
14:36 ashimema             15th better for the french frido?
14:36 ashimema             ok..
14:35 fridolin             second WW
14:35 fridolin             oh it is a holiday in France, May 8
14:35 ashimema             as 22nd is the proposed release date in general
14:35 ashimema             I reckon 8th
14:35 georgew              I think May 8 is better
14:34 aude_c[m]            Right, this was the 3rd Wednesday in January. Third Wednesday in May is 15th. How does that sound? Or the week before?
14:34 ashimema             and we can perhaps vote on names at a dev meeting with extended invites
14:34 fridolin             sounds good
14:34 ashimema             lets say early may
14:33 ashimema             that's scary.. already thinking about the next cycle now
14:33 thd                  ... with the provision for calling some extra general meeting if really necessary.
14:33 ashimema             we'll want one in early May I would think.. to vote the next team
14:33 aude_c[m]            But if you want a decision for naming 24.05, you'll need to vote at an earlier meeting
14:33 fridolin             maybe  at the end of this cycle
14:33 ashimema             the developer meetings are more frequent and we can always choose to call an extra one from one of those.
14:33 aude_c[m]            In 2023 there are wiki pages for meetings in April and July... and January 2024 (need to fix that category)
14:32 ashimema             yup
14:32 georgew              I think the last meeting was in July of 2023
14:32 ashimema             so 2 a year?
14:32 ashimema             last one was July by the looks
14:32 caroline             I think it's every 6 months or something...
14:32 thd                  They might be only twice a year now.
14:32 aude_c[m]            🤷‍♀ī¸
14:31 ashimema             I've lost track.. what's the cadence of general meetings these days?
14:31 ashimema             #topic Set date and time for the next meeting
14:31 ashimema             ok.. seems it's rather quiet on that front
14:30 aude_c[m]            😉
14:30 ashimema             thanks aude_c
14:30 ashimema             haha
14:30 ashimema             OK.. did we have any other topics or business people would like to raise/discuss?
14:30 aude_c[m]            Any other business (not on the agenda but that people would like to put forward now)?
14:29 thd                  Much of what LC does is a cover for something.  It is Congress' library, though, not the president's.
14:29 caroline             ashimema++
14:29 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35829 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Codename for 24.05
14:29 ashimema             #info bug 35829 opened to collect suggestions for a release codename.
14:28 Brendan__CLAMS       maybe the LOC job was just a cover lol
14:28 aude_c[m]            #action ashimema to open a new bug to collect suggestions, so a vote can take place at a future meeting.
14:28 oleonard             [off] Good for Henriette for getting out of the NSA and into LOC
14:27 TriveniChandriki[m]  Oh sorry carry on
14:27 aude_c[m]            #info Suggestion of Henriette Avram, who created MARC
14:27 oleonard             TriveniChandriki[m]: we are in a meeting at the moment
14:27 TriveniChandriki[m]  Can we increase barcode text
14:26 thd                  I assume that everyone now knows that MARC is well preserved inside BibFrame as some major academic libraries objected to everything being left out of the original simple design of BibFrame
14:26 TriveniChandriki[m]  Good evening all
14:26 ashimema             Shall I open a bug for it and we can put suggestions there for a vote next meeting?
14:26 aude_c[m]            Are we talking about Henriette Avram? https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0605/avram.html
14:26 aude_c[m]            #info Should we treat our first woman Release Manager as a "special occasion" and therefore name the 24.05 release? If so, what could this name be? (that our RM herself would agree with)
14:26 fridolin             a french touch
14:25 oleonard             And it's a cool name
14:25 Brendan__CLAMS       and women in library and tech
14:25 ashimema             I like that.. catches 'Library' and 'Technology' in one hit
14:24 Brendan__CLAMS       lol
14:24 thd                  ;)
14:24 oleonard             A dubious distinction XD
14:24 aude_c[m]            That sounds cool
14:24 Brendan__CLAMS       how about Henriette for the programmer who created marc
14:24 ashimema             haha, indeed.. when I suggested he idea to her, she was more onboard with naming it after another famous women in tech 😜
14:23 fridolin             we may use somthing close like "Catarina"
14:23 aude_c[m]            #info Several people agree that naming of releases doesn't need to happen as the standard, but could happen for special occasions
14:23 caroline             It doesn't have to be her name
14:23 ashimema             I suppose 3.14 sorta had a codename too.. it was 'Pie'
14:23 oleonard             I have a feeling cait would not want the release to be named after her
14:22 ashimema             I certainly wouldn't want to switch away from the date system.. codenames are 'extras' in my eyes
14:22 caroline             I think that would be something to celebrate!
14:22 fridolin             ++
14:22 ashimema             I agree.. I suppose the question is.. 'Is our first female rm a special occassion 😜 '
14:22 fridolin             +1
14:21 oleonard             I find the date numbering system to be so useful I don't think the naming of releases needs to be standard, but I'm happy to see it happen for special occasions.
14:21 ashimema             the codename was not added in the bug before we discus the idea here and get some sort of consensus.
14:21 huginn`              04Bug 35504: blocker, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to stable , Release team 24.05
14:21 aude_c[m]            https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35504#c2
14:21 aude_c[m]            Yes, but the discussion is in the early comments
14:21 ashimema             yeah.. discussion was 'an asside' in that bug
14:20 thd                  Is the bug citation the correct bug number?
14:20 ashimema             The discussion on bug 35504 was around adopting codenames more regularly and perhaps celebrating the current cycle having our first female in the Release Manager role.
14:20 ashimema             22.11 actually had the first codename, 'Rosalie' as a dedication to Rosalie Blake.
14:19 huginn`              04Bug 35504: blocker, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to stable , Release team 24.05
14:19 aude_c[m]            #link https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35504
14:19 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35504 blocker, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to stable , Release team 24.05
14:19 aude_c[m]            #info Do we want to start naming releases - or not? There was some discussion on bug 35504
14:18 ashimema             not guitly.. this time
14:18 aude_c[m]            #topic General business
14:18 aude_c[m]            Unless anyone wants to own up to another action? 😅
14:17 ashimema             Looks like we just have one leftover action which I think is a copy/paste from the last agenda 🙂
14:17 aude_c[m]            #info All actions completed :D
14:17 caroline             conference *for sure* streamed :)
14:17 ashimema             #topic Actions from last meeting
14:17 ashimema             shall we move on..
14:17 ashimema             #info KohaCon24 conference very likely to be streamed, HackFest may include Jitsi meets to allow remote attendance, but more informally at the moment.
14:15 caroline             Nothing is set in stone. The "conference" part is for sure streamed online. We have no plan for streaming hackfest workshops, but we can surely do jitsi meets to include remote people
14:14 ashimema             as for the KohaCon hackfest section.. I'll leave Caroline to elaborate there if there's anytihng to say 🙂
14:14 aude_c[m]            Anything else on Hackfest or KohaCon?
14:14 ashimema             keeping an 'ear' on irc is the best way to not miss something that's a little on the spur of the moment.
14:14 fridolin             we may also record and broadcast some talks
14:13 ashimema             and erm demonstrations..
14:13 caroline             sorry, I just came in, but I think everything has been said
14:13 ashimema             For example, we've had join EDI calls with the Swedish user groups in the past
14:13 fridolin             we have the same need with corporate meetings
14:13 Brendan__CLAMS       Cool! thank you
14:13 fridolin             yep
14:12 ashimema             The Marseille Hackfest tends to take a fairly organic approach.. i.e. the agenda gets built as we go.. However, there's often some zoom/jitsi etc interactions.. so if you're interested in joining any particular discussions or bringing anything in particular up I'm sure something can be arranged.
14:12 fridolin             but everyone still is on IRC
14:12 fridolin             any with the small place it migth be difficult
14:12 fridolin             Brendan__CLAMS: Hi, it is not usally with a virtual connexion
14:11 ashimema             excellent 🙂
14:11 Brendan__CLAMS       is there any way to participate in the hackfest remotely?
14:11 aude_c[m]            #info The call for proposals is open too. Use the link from the website or go straight to https://sondagebiblio.org/index.php/835536?lang=en
14:11 aude_c[m]            #info Dates for KohaCon 2024 announced! 23 to 27 September
14:11 aude_c[m]            #link https://2024.kohacon.org/kohacon-2024-learning-and-building-together/
14:10 aude_c[m]            #info Caroline posted an update.
14:10 aude_c[m]            #topic KohaCon24 update
14:10 ashimema             #topic KohaCon24 update
14:10 ashimema             lets move on then
14:10 ashimema             #info There will be a Marseille Hackfest again this year, a little later though from 8th - 12th April.  Biblibre have moved offices, so numbers may be a little more limited, but they are investigating additional office space options right now.
14:08 ashimema             ooh, hackfest
14:08 ashimema             I think that's all the noted announcements I had.. does anyone else here have anything they'd like recorded?
14:07 ashimema             #info QA queues are high, lets bolster efforts a little team 😉
14:07 thd                  ashimema: They seem to be fairly generic unless I have missed something.
14:07 fridolin             #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France
14:07 * oleonard           is happy to stick with IRC today
14:07 ashimema             No marcelr, so I'll re-iterate the call to arms around QA in his stead
14:07 aude_c[m]            It's super easy and I could do it in seconds if people here wish to see each other's faces
14:06 aude_c[m]            #action aude_c to let cait know there is no Jitsi link for next week's development meeting
14:06 * ashimema           hasn't done the jitsi links before.. so I'm not sure how they're done.. hence not getting one in there when I noticed a little last minute a few minutes ago
14:05 thd                  I notice that there is no Jitsi link for next week's development meeting.
14:05 ashimema             #info No specific announcements from the RM, we've started pushing enhancements and she's working through the queues now.  Please keep QAing, that queue is rather high.
14:05 Brendan__CLAMS       it's my first time attending an IRC meeting, so I'm kinda glad you didn't set up a jitsi this time
14:04 aude_c[m]            Any other announcements? :)
14:04 aude_c[m]            #info Happy new year everyone! 👋
14:04 aude_c[m]            Almost regretting not setting up Jitsi link
14:04 ashimema             brill, lots of friendly people 🙂
14:04 aude_c[m]            #topic Announcements
14:03 thd                  #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City [power and light is back on]
14:03 tcohen               #info Tomas Cohen Arazi
14:02 jzairo               #info Jessica Zairo, ByWater
14:02 Brendan__CLAMS       #info Brendan Lawlor, CLAMS, Hyannis, MA, USA
14:02 emlam                #info Emily Lamancusa, Montgomery County Public Libraries, USA
14:02 ashimema             #info Katrin asked Aude and I to step in and chair, she sends her apologies, she has a clash.
14:02 ashimema             oooh, there are a few people here 🙂
14:02 georgew              #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System
14:02 ashimema             #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK
14:02 aude_c[m]            #info Aude Charillon, PTFS Europe, UK
14:02 oleonard             #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA
14:01 ashimema             #info Please introduce yourself for the minutes with an #info
14:01 ashimema             #topic Introductions
14:01 ashimema             #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_17_January_2024 Agenda
14:01 huginn`              Current chairs: ashimema aude_c
14:01 huginn`              Warning: Nick not in channel: aude_c
14:01 ashimema             #chair aude_c
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14:01 ashimema             #startmeeting General IRC meeting 17 January 2024
14:01 aude_c[m]            (like, right now)
14:01 aude_c[m]            Yes for today, unless people express a preference for using Jitsi.
14:00 thd                  Is this an actual IRC meeting?
13:59 aude_c[m]            In this case: gentle warning that there will be an IRC meeting starting in 2min https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_17_January_2024
13:58 thd                  I have not quite understood the distinction between static and dynamic Traefik configurations other than obtaining acme certificates may not work properly with a static Traefik configuration which might be accidentally invoked by picking some option which only works in static mode or using a commands section in docker-compose .
13:58 * fridolin           is present but at home with kids so IRC is fine
13:57 ashimema             seems there isn't one.. I'm happy going irc only.. I have a feeling there's not going to be all that many attendees.. the agenda is short too
13:57 aude_c[m]            <ashimema> "should there be a jitsi link for..." <- If these are on Jitsi now, we can make one?
13:54 thd                  Well that works.
13:51 ashimema             should there be a jitsi link for the meeting later
13:51 tcohen               docker logs -f <service>
13:51 tcohen               you should be able to
13:51 tcohen               if your docker compose has the --logs and --access parameters for the command...
13:50 thd                  sudo docker compose -up d
13:49 tcohen               how are you running it?
13:49 thd                  s/Who/How/
13:49 thd                  Who do you find an error from a continuously restarting container?
13:48 thd                  Also, where do the logs go when a container reboots continuously from some trivial docker-compose error.
13:46 tcohen               my sysadmin is back at the end of the month, I know he has set some godaddy certs with traefik for a customer
13:46 tcohen               I have only used the traefik-negotiated letsencrypt certs with it
13:45 thd                  Yes, letsencrypt certbot using rfc1236.
13:45 tcohen               ah, yes
13:44 thd                  There seems to be no reason to obtain redundant certs when I already have wildcard certs for most of my domains.
13:44 tcohen               letsencrypt?
13:43 thd                  tcohen: Traefik is working with self signed certs.
13:43 tcohen               do you have a working traefik and are trying to add TLS for a specific site?
13:42 thd                  tcohen: When I have tried the supposed well documented method I am lucky to have a 404 error.
13:41 tcohen               https://doc.traefik.io/traefik/https/tls/
13:41 tcohen               thd: that's well documented as far as I can tell
13:39 thd                  I have been trying to configure Traefik on my own VPS to use my pre-existing TLS certs.
13:38 tcohen               what is it?
13:38 thd                  hola
13:38 tcohen               hola thd
13:11 thd                  tcohen: I have a question about traefik.
13:11 ashimema             I wish
13:11 magnuse              *meetings
13:11 magnuse              ashimema: is there a season that is not for meatings? ;-)
12:41 cait                 tcohen++ # rebase help and general awesomeness
12:32 ashimema             I'm juggling two at a time mostly today
12:32 ashimema             seems to be the season for meetings 😜
12:31 krimsonkharne[m]     more meetings incoming today, I won't be able to join the general meeting later
11:55 tcohen               morning #koha o/
11:43 davewood             different koha versions too. 23.05.04.000 and 22.11.06.000 Rosalie to name two
11:43 davewood             actually the jobs are not stuck but something might have spammed the job queue because i am seeing lots of jobs with the same create timestamp
11:41 davewood             i am seeing the same issue on various koha instances.
11:41 davewood             our background jobs are stuck. 4 workers are running, rabbitmq is running. /cgi-bin/koha/admin/background_jobs.pl shows Progress null/1
11:35 magnuse              aw-bib[m]++
10:49 aw-bib[m]            . o O ( updating own readme )
10:46 cait                 perfect :)
10:45 aw-bib[m]            cait: better now?
10:42 aw-bib[m]            ok, I was unsure about the overwrite. but of course I can do this. takes a moment.
10:42 cait                 when you uploaded only one of both, the sequence of the patches on the bug changed - that can cause problems, in this case it's probably alright, but in other patch sets it could create issues
10:41 cait                 overwriting what is already there with the new signed-off patches
10:40 cait                 git bz attach -e HEAD~2..
10:40 cait                 git so 2
10:40 cait                 what we'd usually do is
10:40 huginn`              aw-bib[m]: downloading the Perl source
10:40 aw-bib[m]            @cait I added only one as bz told me that the other is already there. so I changed the initial HEAD~2 to HEAD.
10:39 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35744 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Implement +strings for GET /patrons/:patron_id
10:39 ashimema             thinking about bug 35744 in particular
10:39 ashimema             Do we have any kind of plan as to when +strings is more appropriate than adding 'embed' ?
10:37 ashimema             I liked rocket, but yeah.. it was empty.. people didn't migrate so I killed it off again
10:36 magnuse              yeah, Mattermost seems good from what i have seen so far. i was happy with rocket when i tested it a few years back too
10:36 * magnuse            joined the Koha-US slack a while back
10:24 ashimema             it's come a long way since I last looked
10:24 ashimema             I like the look of Mattermost
10:24 ashimema             and so far all I see it US activity
10:23 ashimema             there's 131 people signed up to it, but very low traffic
10:23 ashimema             well... the signup is at least
10:23 ashimema             but it's still rather Koha-US branded
10:22 ashimema             yeah, they sent a mail out a while ago opening it up
10:22 magnuse              ashimema: "community" slack = the koha-US one?
10:17 cait                 signing off mulitple patches that is
10:16 cait                 do you need some help with that?
10:16 cait                 I think you reattached only one, but not both
10:16 cait                 ideally you could add your sign-off line to the patch
10:15 cait                 aw-bib[m]: signed-off is correct
10:15 magnuse              yeah
10:15 ashimema             oftc hosting irc for free for us is a big win
10:14 ashimema             the challenge is hosting something
10:14 ashimema             yeah, I was impressed.. he beat me 🙂
10:14 magnuse              ashimema: nah, mattermost is like slack. the swedish koha network moved from slack to mattermost recently
10:13 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29930 normal, P5 - low, ---, janik.hilser, Signed Off , 'cardnumber' overwritten with userid when not maped (LDAP auth)
10:13 aw-bib[m]            tcohen was very fast on bug 29930 and I just signed off his test case (which I now try to understand). do I need to change the status somehow or is `signed off` what it should be?
10:11 cait                 yeah.... it's a lot for personal use already too
10:11 ashimema             I'm in the "community" slack too.. but I agree it's hurdles to join, and there's not a momentum of people in there either
10:10 ashimema             kinda fed up of all the chat clients I have to run though... telegram, signal, slack, whatsapp, matrix, irc, discord, zoom, element.. that's a crazy set to just manage to stay in touch with various projects I'm involved in ☚ī¸
10:10 cait                 like not having to jump hoops getting an invite etc. - but if we need to bite that bullet.... we can still discuss it
10:09 cait                 the only thing I'd like is an easy way for people to get in
10:09 NikolayGospodinov[m] ok
10:09 ashimema             it's been a while since I looked into this stuff
10:08 ashimema             isn't mattermost another bridging thing ?
10:08 ashimema             I dunno.. we've tried various times in the past to use those but we've never managed to get the adoption
10:08 ashimema             mmm
10:07 magnuse              ashimema: like mattermost or rocket?
10:07 ashimema             I really wish we could migrate wholesale to a modern chat system though ☚ī¸
10:06 ashimema             dare I saw I'm considering dropping matrix.. I thought it was getting better, but with each feature introduced it seems to get less reliable on the irc bridging front ☚ī¸
10:05 cait                 I think maybe ty and make sure tthe files exist and are owned by your koha's instance user?
10:05 cait                 ah that is the output
10:05 magnuse              see the link to matrix.org above. looks like something is not right: "zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/k7000/authorities/norm..LCK [No such file or directory]"
10:04 cait                 and the output is ok?
09:57 NikolayGospodinov[m] sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f library
09:56 cait                 what's the command you use for reindexing?
09:56 cait                 as someone said yesterday it doess look like it could be a permissionissue
09:56 cait                 how do you index?
09:54 NikolayGospodinov[m] Hello. I have the following problem. After reindexing the zebra, when I search for a document in Koha it returns no result. This is the result from the reindexing the zebra: Records exported: 485445 12:04:13 [00:09:20]... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/pccMvhZMRiApQaaqaQuMzGHl>)
09:52 cait                 yeah, there has been some worry - that's why I was asking for info
09:09 ashimema             I think the powers that be had a bit of a meeting about how to fit us all in yesterday 😛
09:05 fridolin             ashimema great \o/ we will try new bars ;)
08:55 ashimema             My team and I are all going to hackfest
08:31 cait                 I won't be around, I need to leave early today
08:31 krimsonkharne[m]     I have a meeting an hour earlier, hope I can make it to the general meeting today..
08:30 krimsonkharne[m]     waves
08:29 cait                 good morning
08:29 krimsonkharne[m]     morning all :)
08:23 cait                 already did ;)
08:22 fridolin             we are on organisation currently, dont hesitate to contact Paul
08:22 cait                 so I can write my travel request
08:22 fridolin             but not in KohaCon sadly
08:22 cait                 waiting for instructions on registration
08:22 cait                 I hope I'll be too
08:21 fridolin             I'll be at HackFest in Marseille this year
08:21 cait                 that must have been hard
08:21 fridolin             bearly not
08:21 cait                 no cheese in Tahiti?
08:21 fridolin             and wine
08:21 fridolin             so cheese every day :D
08:21 cait                 yep, you are good :)
08:20 fridolin             string freeze sent this morning
08:20 cait                 nice :)
08:20 fridolin             i live in Avignon south of France
08:20 fridolin             cait: yes i am
08:20 cait                 fridolin: are you back in France now?
08:19 cait                 but I'll try to sort out the security branch in a bit
08:19 cait                 fridolin: I haven't heard back from fredericdem and lukeg yet, and no string frezes
08:18 cait                 hi fridolin
08:17 ashimema             morning
08:14 fridolin             y-hello-w #koha
08:13 cait                 good morning #koha
08:00 magnuse              \o/
07:16 reiveune             hello
05:08 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35687 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Upgrade to 23.06.00.013 may fail
05:08 davidnind            bwv582: this error is bug 35687 - you may be able to update the database using the queries in the patches
04:16 bwv582               I'm trying to upgrade to the current stable version but koha-upgrade-schema is erroring out with: ERROR - {UNKNOWN}: DBI Exception: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Cannot change column 'itemnumber': used in a foreign key constraint 'tmp_holdsqueue_ibfk_1' at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Installer.pm line 741