Time Nick Message
22:18 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33929 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Failed QA , Cannot export genre/form authority framework
22:18 caroline ah, it has already been reported Bug 33929
22:16 caroline I think it may have to do with the fact that GENRE/FORM has a slash in the code? None of the other codes have a slash
22:14 caroline Cesar, that sounds like a bug, you should report it on bugzilla
21:48 Cesar Estimados, saludos desde Argentina. Les quería dejar la inquietud. Estoy trabajando sobre las hojas (plantillas) de autoridades, y el programa no me deja exportar la hoja de trabajo Género/Forma. Será un problema del SIGB o no deja exportar? Agradecería ayuda
21:43 magnuse just upgraded to 22.0506000
21:41 magnuse that's a new one: Can't use string ("Rosalie") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /home/kohaadmin/kohaclone/about.pl line 751
20:17 * magnuse settles in for an upgrade
16:16 ashimema er, sure.. in a few mins
16:15 cait ashimema: could you check on the release tema patches? had a question about wiki roles
16:14 ashimema is metacpan struggling today?
16:14 ashimema hmm
14:56 Joubu and I still need to provide tests...
14:55 Joubu I spent too much time on that one... :D
14:55 oleonard Cool, I will take a look
14:55 Joubu oleonard: but overall it's ready for testing I think
14:55 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35329 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Move patron searches to a modal
14:55 Joubu oleonard: I have attached several patches on bug 35329. It is missing a bit of styling inside the modal (the 'info' messge for "xxx patrons added") and maybe a bit more on the nested modal
13:20 Joubu Common problems" part I mean
13:20 Joubu in the "
13:20 Joubu I wrote that, but I think it's missing a case
13:19 Joubu https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/#translation-files
13:19 Joubu hum ok, maybe the gulp error was hidden then
13:19 kidclamp without dev it stil iddn't list anything and no error
13:19 kidclamp but I needed: sudo koha-translate --list --available --dev kohadev
13:19 kidclamp I just got nothing
13:18 Joubu kidclamp: which error did you get?
13:18 kidclamp yup, reset did it, thanks
13:17 Joubu a chown and/or reset --hard in misc/translator/po will certainly fix the problem
13:16 PedroAmorim[m] to have it work on ktd
13:16 PedroAmorim[m] from https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker
13:16 PedroAmorim[m] I have to run:... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/OFDDpZyYZVYvXKyLDXYUDbiP>)
13:16 PedroAmorim[m] kidclamp: are you on ktd?
13:12 kidclamp Is this out of date now? I can't get any languages to list
13:12 kidclamp https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_of_additional_languages_for_OPAC_and_INTRANET_staff_client#Installing_a_translation_on_a_development_environment
12:13 magnuse thanks cait ashimema kidclamp - i couldn't find traces of the calendar in there either, but it would have explained the problem i was seeing :-)
12:13 magnuse someone here tested chatgpt with "tell me 5 things about koha", and 2 or 3 of the answers sounded plausible, but were entirely made up...
12:03 paulderscheid[m] I think citing sources is the way to go here.
11:45 oleonard Making stuff up is their job!
11:44 cait how do you keep them from making stuff up?
11:44 cait they had asked ChatGPT I think
11:44 cait I just remember the one perfectly fine sounding email to the list about configuration options Koha never had...
11:39 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
11:39 Joubu @later tell 33161 comment 33
11:27 Joubu GET /patrons/42 would return {str: {library_id: "Centerville", category_id: "Staff"}}
11:26 Joubu ashimema: feeling rusty... Is the job of Koha::Object->strings_map to return the library's name or should I use embed instead?
11:23 oleonard I worry that adding an llm to Koha will result in plausible-sounding but incorrect answers at a rate that makes it useless ( > 0% )
11:07 ashimema thanks kidclamp
11:07 kidclamp no, calendar is not taken into account for renewability, it can affect the due date <- magnuse
11:04 kidclamp It should be an option, what it actually is I'm not sure
11:03 ashimema pass
11:01 cait I think kidclamp or ashimema might be better to ask even
11:01 cait magnuse: i think it should renew on holiday too... but it has changed a lot since I last looked at the feature more closely
10:26 paulderscheid[m] well it's now multi-modal so llm does not suffice anymore but you get the gist
10:25 magnuse ah, thanks!
10:24 paulderscheid[m] https://huggingface.co
10:24 paulderscheid[m] https://huggingface.cxo
10:23 paulderscheid[m] *hate
10:23 paulderscheid[m] or rather llm development, I actually hat this being called AI all the time :D
10:23 paulderscheid[m] It's a platform for discussing ai development.
10:22 magnuse huggingface?
10:19 paulderscheid[m] Has potential no doubt
10:18 paulderscheid[m] I bet
10:18 ashimema s/too/to/
10:17 ashimema yeah, that was the conclusion I came too too
10:17 paulderscheid[m] Training one is a whole phd
10:17 paulderscheid[m] But you should rather look into fine-tuning a model rather than training one.
10:17 paulderscheid[m] It's doable.
10:16 paulderscheid[m] Check out ollama for setup and huggingface ashimema
10:16 ashimema I know there's a few people interested in the reports writer stuff
10:15 ashimema Must admit.. I only took a cursory look at how to train an LLM and decided it was way outside my expertise.. but investigating it is on the long list.. I agree.. it would be great to do something in that space for Koha..
10:15 paulderscheid[m] That makes sense.
10:15 ashimema well.. I actually had a discussion about AI in the company the other day... the sales team are keen to train an LLM using our existing tender responses to help in drafting new tender responses
10:14 paulderscheid[m] :D
10:14 paulderscheid[m] That
10:14 paulderscheid[m] Yes
10:13 magnuse buzzword bingo!
10:13 paulderscheid[m] Would be great if we got there before OCLC
10:12 paulderscheid[m] Just btw, we have AI now XD
10:12 paulderscheid[m] Would be great to show that tinkling stars icon in promotional material :D
10:12 paulderscheid[m] Haha :D
10:12 PedroAmorim[m] maybe =D maybe some folks from Germany also have the capacities =DDD
10:11 paulderscheid[m] Maybe PTFS has the capacities :)
10:10 paulderscheid[m] yeah, was kind of a joke but I see it as a possibility as well.
10:09 paulderscheid[m] Could be also really great for reports!
10:09 PedroAmorim[m] it'd be great to have it in Koha!
10:09 PedroAmorim[m] having an optional AI helper is an inevitability imo
10:08 PedroAmorim[m] o/
10:07 paulderscheid[m] Ha, still tired, 3x 'For example' :D
10:07 paulderscheid[m] For example in the staff interface. For example for looking up docs and answering natural language questions. For example: 'How do I turn on Feature x', 'How do I configure ILL' or something like that.
10:06 magnuse what would we use it for in koha?
10:06 paulderscheid[m] But don't let it write your code, you WILL regret it ˆˆ
10:05 paulderscheid[m] It's very capable and doesn't collect any data.
10:05 paulderscheid[m] here's a cool repo if you'd like to play around w/ it magnuse https://github.com/jmorganca/ollama
10:04 paulderscheid[m] that sounds like a cait question :D
10:04 magnuse automatic renewals should not be affected by the calendar, right? loans should be renewed even on closed days?
10:03 magnuse lulz
10:02 paulderscheid[m] the chatGPT stuff ;D
10:02 paulderscheid[m] Large Language Model like llama2
10:01 magnuse LLM?
10:01 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34423 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , (proof-of-concept) Bugzilla could look better with a new skin
10:01 paulderscheid[m] That bz skin looks awesome btw. Let's get it moving: bug 34423
09:56 paulderscheid[m] Let's integrate an open LLM into Koha ˆˆ
09:56 paulderscheid[m] I have one :D
09:44 cait still so quiet?
08:32 magnuse \o/
08:13 cait good morning #koha!
08:09 Joubu really want to restart or plack --reload enough?
08:09 huginn` ashimema: The operation succeeded.
08:09 ashimema @later tell tuxayo tuxayo: I know dcook has been thinking about startup speed lately, but I don't think he was worried about the workers.. more the app itself
08:09 huginn` ashimema: The operation succeeded.
08:09 ashimema @later tell tuxayo tuxayo: does it matter if the workers take a little longer to start? Or is it a startup order issue.. should we be prioritising all instance plack startups before any workers to ensure site reactivity returns more quickly?
08:08 ashimema tuxayo: I know dcook has been thinking about startup speed lately, but I don't think he was worried about the workers.. more the app itself
08:07 ashimema tuxayo: does it matter if the workers take a little longer to start? Or is it a startup order issue.. should we be prioritising all instance plack startups before any workers to ensure site reactivity returns more quickly?
07:39 reiveune hello
01:04 davidnind Nice work on KohaCon24 - conference website (https://2024.kohacon.org/) and update (https://2024.kohacon.org/kohacon-2024-learning-and-building-together/)
01:02 davidnind inLibro++
01:02 davidnind caroline++
00:45 tuxayo Long ago I switched from two general workers to one to make start up and more importantly restarts, less slow. On my PC (old but will have to do until I can change it) restarts take ~15 sec now with 3 workers (one general, one background, one background long task)
00:45 tuxayo Does anyone know if there is a way to make Koha lighter since the introduction of one worker for background tasks and one for long background tasks?
00:38 tuxayo wow looks nice :D