Time  Nick             Message
05:30 Joubu            mtj: around?
05:30 Joubu            koha-staging no longer have nightly build for master?
05:31 Joubu            mtj: last notif on koha-bots was on 2023-07-30 - "Koha 04'master' packages pushed to 08'koha-staging' repo 03(2fd6625a)"
07:56 fridolin         yellouw
08:03 cait1            Joubu: Weblate is not coming up for me this morning - browser is loading endlessly
08:03 cait1            and good moring all
08:04 fridolin         weblate means "web is late" XD
08:06 cait1            lol
08:07 Joubu            same for me
08:08 Joubu            weblate's maintainer submitted a possible fix
08:08 Joubu            the dev docker image does not contain it yet
08:09 cait             ok
08:09 Joubu            there is nothing I can do, postgres is not processing some speficic SELECTs fast enough
08:09 Joubu            there are 5 in the queue, and they take ~30s-2min each
08:09 cait             I am trying to load the page for the manual and it's not coming up
08:10 cait             let's hope we can get the fix soon
08:10 cait             it's strange because the test system was so super fast
08:10 cait             maybe becuase it didn#t havee all the data?
08:10 Joubu            yes
08:11 Joubu            there are 15M entries in a table, and the query is not good
08:11 Joubu            https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/discussions/10723
08:20 Joubu            the docker image has been updated, I will upgrade weblate
08:23 Joubu            done
08:25 Joubu            did-g[m]: yop
08:36 krimsonkharne[m] morning all
08:59 cait             Joubu: I'll give it another go
08:59 cait             currently, it's super fast again
08:59 cait             keepig fingers crossed!
08:59 cait             Joubu++
08:59 cait             weblate_community++
09:10 cait             Joubu: it's a dream compared to before
09:11 cait             Annelisterman[m]: try Weblate again :)
09:11 ashimema         nice one
09:12 Joubu            the problem is that (I think) the problematic queries come from background tasks
09:13 Joubu            so it could happen again randomly
09:14 Joubu            https://snipboard.io/NEQSh7.jpg - peaks are way lower however!
09:38 alexted[m]       hi
09:38 alexted[m]       I need to import several Marc records into a new (empty) installation of Koha (Stage MARC records for import>Manage staged MARC records).
09:38 alexted[m]       Is there a way to keep the same biblionumber, biblioitemnumber and itemnumber as the imported records? From an import test I saw that Koha starts numbering everything from 1. Thanks!
09:38 cait1            not really
09:39 cait1            well ther eis no configuration switch or similar
09:39 cait1            you could set the counter in the database manually, but if your improt contains a record that has been deleted since, it won't work and get out of sync
09:39 cait1            hm and it would also only work if we can assume that the records sequence is by biblionumber and they are also imported in that sequence
09:40 alexted[m]       cait1: hi, thanks!
09:44 alexted[m]       I have this need (of keeping the same biblionumber) because I also have numerous record Marc Serials with related Subscriptions connected
09:45 alexted[m]       and other internal links between records
10:04 magnuse          alexted[m]: are the records in Koha already? if so you could perhaps export all the relevant db tables from the old koha and import them into the new koha. not something i have ever done, though
10:12 alexted[m]       magnuse no, the new installation is empty. The problem is that the source tables are from an old version of Koha and have changed a lot compared to the new version I'm using
10:13 magnuse          ah, ok
10:13 magnuse          oh, i meant "are the records in an old version of koha or in some other system" :-)
10:14 ashimema         so the records are coming from an old koha..
10:14 magnuse          how old is the old koha? you could still try to copy over the whole database and do an upgrade
10:14 ashimema         do you still have that koha around.. know what version it is..
10:14 ashimema         I'd just upgrade
10:16 alexted[m]       hi, thanks for your suggestions! The records and the table come from the 17.11.02.000 version, and the new version that i have installed is the 22.11.12 version
10:17 Annelisterman[m] <cait> "Anneli Österman: try Weblate..." <- Much better now. Earlier today it just loaded and loaded and loaded. :)
10:19 alexted[m]       <magnuse> "oh, i meant "are the records..." <- yes, the records are in an old version of koha :)
10:24 magnuse          alexted[m]: 17.11 to 22.11 should not be an impossible upgrade, worth a try i'd say
10:25 PedroAmorim[m]   o/
10:25 PedroAmorim[m]   davidnind++
10:26 ashimema         that should be a trivial upgrade
10:27 ashimema         I'd run the db update from the command line
10:27 ashimema         and watch the output
10:27 ashimema         Koha stops on errors so you can usually spot and fix them manually in the db.. then re-run the db update sript and it'll pick up where it left off.
10:28 alexted[m]       the problem is that koha 17.11 is running on an old server (Centos) that will be discontinued, while the 22.11 version is on a new server (Ubunt/Debiann): updating koha without the Debian package, on Centos, is a nightmare
10:29 ashimema         so perhaps install a 17.11 on the new server
10:29 ashimema         dump the old database and load it into the new server
10:29 ashimema         then run the upgrade on the new server
10:30 ashimema         https://debian.koha-community.org/koha/dists/17.11/
10:30 ashimema         packages should exist for it still
10:32 Joubu            install 22.11, drop the db, inject your dump, restart_all, run the update DB script
10:33 ashimema         doh.. of course.. that would work
10:34 ashimema         headache
10:34 alexted[m]       ashimema: thanks for the suggestion! the problem is that I just installed Koha 22.11 (https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian) on the new server, I should uninstall everything and reinstall
10:34 ashimema         do what Joubu just said
10:34 ashimema         drop the existing database
10:34 alexted[m]       Joubu: ah, ok! great!
10:34 ashimema         and throw your old one in instead
10:36 alexted[m]       thanks all for the suggesions! only one question: is there any reference guide for update DB script?
10:43 cait1            alexted[m]: trust the process :)
10:44 cait1            it#s all automated
10:44 cait             it will have the old structure, Koha detects the mismatch of application version and database version and starts the update, this here describes it a bit: kohageek.blogspot.com/2015/08/move-old-koha-database-to-new.html
10:45 alexted[m]       cait: thanks! I will try :)
10:46 cait             struggling with dicsonnects/bad network today, sorry for the constant renumbering of caits...
10:48 cait             you can run the database update on command line as described there, or you could restart and it will also come up in the browser
10:48 cait             for a big update teh cli is maybe a bit easier to work with
10:49 alexted[m]       cait: perfect! I'm downloading the old database right now
10:59 cait             alexted[m]: out of interest - where are you from?
10:59 alexted[m]       cait: italy :)
10:59 cait             ah nice :)
10:59 cait             Germany
11:00 alexted[m]       :)
11:17 oleonard         o/
12:30 cait             oh wow, from all green to totally broken?
12:37 magnuse          "Error while executing command: no such element: Unable to locate element: //*[@id="password"] at /usr/share/perl5/Selenium/Remote/Driver.pm line 411." ?
12:38 cait             yeah, right now I am not sure waht caused this
12:39 cait             I was hoping to push some more today, but not so sure now
12:40 cait             ashimema, PedroAmorim[m] around?
12:40 PedroAmorim[m]   +
12:40 cait             do we have abug for the fail of the erm sushi tests?
12:40 cait             https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/
12:41 PedroAmorim[m]   I'm not entirely sure, had a chat with Matt yesterday about it I think he's on it
12:41 cait             any ETA for the patches? :)
12:42 cait             https://paste.koha-community.org/34536
12:43 PedroAmorim[m]   I don't know, there are at least 2 things happening, I believe there's a new 'audited' field coming from the sushi response that needs to be added to our REST API, and there's the 'migrations' thing Joubu mentioned, possibly others. Long story short, it seems the SUSHI response is now different and causing issues.
12:44 PedroAmorim[m]   I'm not actively looking into it after my chat with Matt yesterday, more than one person looking at this would be counter productive
12:44 PedroAmorim[m]   unless advised otherwise
12:45 cait             yeah, I am trying not to push things while tests are failing - trying to figure out what to do
12:46 cait             maybe you can tell him that this shoudl have some priority
12:46 cait             and we should have a bug filed
12:47 cait             also D11 is not even tellin gme waht is failing... that doesn't look great
12:52 Joubu            selenium failure is coming from bug 35070 - I let a note this morning with the "additional_work_needed" flag, and jajm added a patch there
12:52 huginn`          04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35070 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to master , Koha plugins implementing "background_jobs" hook can't provide view template
12:53 cait             oh thanks, i had missed the note
12:54 cait             so let's see if we can fix D11 a bit
12:59 cait             jajm++ Joubu++ # taking care of that one quickly
13:03 cait             at least passing locally now, going to push
13:04 ashimema         Matt is off ill today
13:04 ashimema         so it won't happen today
13:04 cait             thanks
13:04 cait             I'll push a few bugs and the fix for the D11 one, hoping we will get to a bit of a better state with that already
13:05 ashimema         the sushi stuff is very contained.. I wouldn't let it stop you pushing unrelated stuff.
13:05 cait             trying to get D11 back from failed first
13:07 cait             but I think you are right and knowing the response has changes is also good info
13:08 Joubu            ashimema: the E2E tests (selenium and cypress) are not run when the other tests are failing
13:09 cait             pushed
13:19 cait             Joubu: what is E2E?
13:19 cait             or what does it stand for?
13:30 Joubu            end-to-end
13:30 cait             ah, ok, that was kind of obvious
13:37 cait             I am testing some patches, but will wait with pushing
13:58 oleonard         cait++
14:14 cait1            D11 is still failing, but not exploding anymore, the erm tests and the known recurring selenium tests failing
14:38 magnuse          is https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/debian/docs/LEEME.Debian still relevant and up to date? pushed 12 years ago, not changed since
14:40 cait1            possibly not?
14:47 cait1            ashimema: still around?
14:51 oleonard         Hi lukeg
14:54 cait1            time to call it a day - have a nice weekend all!
14:58 alexted[m]       <Joubu> "install 22.11, drop the db..." <- I just finished the suggested procedure: everything seems to have gone well, I'll do a few more checks, but everything seems ok! Thanks again to everyone for the valuable suggestions
14:59 ashimema         hi
14:59 magnuse          ashimema: hi
14:59 cait1            alexted[m]: thanks for the feedback :)
15:01 magnuse          ashimema: i get this problem when i try to build packages with https://gitlab.com/ptfs-europe/koha-dpkg-docker too: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-dpkg-docker/-/issues/4
15:01 magnuse          you don't happen to know if you have found a workaround for it?
15:01 ashimema         erm.. afraid I'm none the wiser
15:02 magnuse          i tried le googles, but haven't figured it out yet. one suggestion was to skip dpkg-source, but i can't even figure out where i would do that, it's all a bit too magical yet...
15:03 ashimema         I've asked Jake here
15:03 ashimema         hopefully he'll have some clues
15:03 magnuse          coolios!
15:05 lukeg            good morning/afternoon/evening!
15:06 magnuse          hiya lukeg
15:06 ashimema         hmm, I think he might be in a meeting
15:06 ashimema         I'll keep an eye and get back to you magnuse
15:07 magnuse          awesome!
15:12 fridolin         nice weekend folks, next week in Marseille whooo
15:20 Joubu            aude_c[m], caroline: https://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/master/usage/configuration.html#confval-figure_language_filename
15:22 Joubu            in my understanding there is then nothing to do
15:23 caroline         just change it in the conf?
15:23 aude_c[m]        Nice. Thank you
15:23 aude_c[m]        So the French manual will know to pick images from the fr file directory?
15:24 Joubu            caroline: if we suffix with .$LANG.png there is nothing to do
15:24 caroline         +1
15:24 Joubu            from image.fr.png
15:24 aude_c[m]        👍️
15:24 Joubu            but we could split into different dir (1 per lang) and modify figure_language_filename in the config
15:25 ashimema         we lean on community for the translations stuff I'm afraid magnuse
15:25 ashimema         so we don't do that bit outselves in the container
15:26 magnuse          ashimema: the problem here seems to be also with css files that are generated somewhere along the line, and then everything stops because there are uncomitted files in the repo. or so i think.
15:27 Joubu            @later tell tcohen Docker_4 has disk space issues
15:27 huginn`          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
16:00 alexted[m]       <alexted[m]> "I just finished the suggested..." <- I only notice a problem on the database tables. I give an example, but there could be others: the "biblio" table in Koha 17.11 did not have the "subtitle" column and therefore now I find myself having a table with the "subtitle" column empty, even for all the records that in MARC21 have the 245b compiled. Could this be a significant problem?
16:02 caroline         Is there a character limit for emails sent to the koha mailing list? I sent a message twice and it still doesn't appear in the archive... https://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2024-January/date.html
16:02 caroline         ah there it is... I had to complain ;)
16:11 aude_c[m]        Exciting :)
16:20 alexted[m]       <alexted[m]> "I only notice a problem on the..." <- However, I noticed that: if from the Cataloging module I open and Edit a record with the 245b and then save it (without making any changes), the "subtitle" column of the "biblio" table for that record is filled in correctly with the 245b already present in the record . Is there a way to do this batch operation on all records? Thank you!
16:21 caroline         alexted[m], you can use the BatchRebuildBiblioTables script
16:21 caroline         misc/batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl
16:24 alexted[m]       caroline: thanks caroline! :)
16:24 alexted[m]       do I have to run it from the command line correct?
16:24 caroline         yes
16:27 alexted[m]       caroline: thanks! :)
16:27 alexted[m]       do you suggest running batchRebuildItemsTables.pl as well?
16:27 caroline         If you made changes in the mapping of item fields, then yes. Otherwise it's not necessary
16:28 caroline         One thing I'm not sure about is the effect of running this in production while operations are ongoing. I always run it at night on production systems just in case
16:30 alexted[m]       caroline: Thanks for the warning :)
16:30 alexted[m]       caroline: ok!
16:30 caroline         np :)
16:30 alexted[m]       just one more question: is there a script for authority tables too?
16:31 caroline         the auth_header table doesn't have mappings to marc afaik
16:34 alexted[m]       ok! Thanks again for the valuable advice! Have a nice day! :)
16:34 caroline         you too! good luck!
16:34 alexted[m]       thanks! :)
16:50 cait             caroline: just saw the email \o/
16:52 cait             caroline: the newsletter one - so the subscription worked :)
16:52 caroline         yay!