Time  Nick             Message
16:29 thd              Plugin to test Discourse with real user data but blocking email being sent to users from the test system https://github.com/merefield/discourse-isolation .
16:24 * thd            has been doing repairs at my place on and off the past few days and working all night.  /ME needs sleep :)
16:23 thd              It would be great to add some better user default settings for each user created from the mailing list.  Loïc Dachary API use is for Discourse admin settings but it would be nice if mailing list members had a mailing list compatible configuration created to start.  Setting all the options for proper mailing list compatibility is not obvious as an admin or a user.
16:19 thd              Most of the Discourse API is undocumented.  Civilized Discourse Construction Kit does not really do documentation.
16:18 thd              Loïc Dachary uses undocumented Discourse API calls for configuration.
16:17 paulderscheid[m] That's great to hear! Looking forward to it :)
16:17 thd              I have made some extensive research into all aspects of Discourse and will post the various aspects in pieces for the bug soon.
16:16 thd              ... etc. under Setup in the README.
16:15 paulderscheid[m] Thanks, i will look into it soon
16:15 thd              git clone --recurse-submodules https://lab.enough.community/dachary/rezo-import
16:12 thd              pauldersheid[m]  https://lab.enough.community/dachary/rezo-import/ .  git clone needs an extra parameter for that repository to include components.
16:07 thd              Discourse mbox archive import only imports users who posted to the previous mailing list and then only as "staging" users not real users with permissions to do something useful.  Loïc Dachary's Mailman 2 to Discourse import scripts create real users.
16:04 thd              pauldersheid[m] Did you find the Loïc Dachary's Mailman 2 to Discourse import scripts?  They need some updating for Discourse changes in the past year or to and changing of some hardcoded values but they are much better than merely using the Discourse mbox import.
15:46 paulderscheid[m] yeah
14:07 thd              pauldersheid[m] Are you present?
13:47 cait             ah, got the wrong time link...
13:44 cait             i read it like 3 times
13:44 cait             magnuse:: gah.
13:38 magnuse          *error
13:38 magnuse          "$ sudo ./debian/build-git-snapshot" gives "dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no upstream tarball found at ../koha_22.11.12.kbase.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz}" so different errir
13:34 tcohen           so this doesn't seem like a koha-dpkg-docker error, but on the tooling we have
13:34 tcohen           I guess you will get the same
13:34 magnuse          cait: the "time" link in the email about the dev meeting is for "Wednesday, 13 December 2023"
13:34 tcohen           magnuse: if you run the build-git-stanpshot script the old way
13:33 magnuse          cait: bleurgh, i had some other uncommitted changes. when i took away those i get the same error again. so it looks like npm etc stuff didn't help after all...
13:10 cait             paul_p++
13:10 huginn`          cait: I have not seen paul_poulain.
13:10 cait             @seen paul_poulain
13:04 cait             if it worked, the package will be much smaller thaqn beofre (because no po files)
13:03 cait             yay!
13:03 magnuse          i think so!
13:00 cait             so.. it helped a little?
12:59 magnuse          and now i notice https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-dpkg-docker says "Example of directories that must be removed permanently or backed up elsewhere ... koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/css/maps/"
12:57 magnuse          that did remove the long list of css and po files
12:51 magnuse          but pbuilder is involved there too, so i am testing it now
12:40 cait             but we ar using the old pbuilder process, not the koha-dpkg-docker one
12:38 magnuse          ah, interesting
12:38 cait             It's this bit: Check npm/gulp/nodejs package versions
12:37 cait             https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way
12:37 cait             po files etc. worked after we fixed that
12:37 magnuse          sounds like it could be related
12:36 cait             and the fix from the "easy" page worked - you need to makre sure to use the correct yarn etc. versions
12:36 cait             magnuse: not sure if that is your issue, but when we did our last packages we had issues with CSS files
12:34 magnuse          https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-dpkg-docker/-/issues/4
12:18 magnuse          oops, scared him away...
12:11 tcohen           khall: are you aware of this issue? did you solve it on your builds?
12:10 tcohen           because that's not a koha-dpkg-docker error, but from the build process itself
12:10 tcohen           I wonder what is mtj doing
12:09 tcohen           it mmakes sense
12:09 tcohen           ah
12:09 magnuse          tcohen: but it looks like local changes are made in the process, generating .css files and also something with the .po files?
12:08 tcohen           magnuse: local changes need to be commited
12:08 cait             All ASCII characters are encoded using one octet in the ASCII encoding and the Unicode UTF-8 encoding, thus a character is equivalent in length to an octet when an element's values are restricted to ASCII.
12:08 magnuse          s/://
12:08 tcohen           looking
12:08 magnuse          tcohen:
12:08 tcohen           magnuse
12:07 cait             octets = characters here?
12:07 magnuse          :-)
12:07 cait             one more, but yes
12:07 magnuse          ah, one off
12:07 cait             yah
12:07 magnuse          something to do with a field at the start that can only hold 4 digits
12:07 cait             Record length  (character positions 00-04), contains a five-character ASCII numeric string equal to the length of the entire record, including itself and the record terminator.  The five-character numeric string is right justified and unused positions contain zeroes (zero fill).  The maximum length of a record is 99999 octets.
12:07 magnuse          cait: 9999 chars or bytes or something?
12:06 cait             can someone remind me of the max size of a MARC (not XML) record?
12:05 magnuse          https://paste.koha-community.org/33965
12:05 magnuse          "dpkg-source: info: you can integrate the local changes with dpkg-source --commit" but where should "dpkg-source --commit" go?
12:05 magnuse          trying to figure out how to use koha-dpkg-docker. guess i'm a bit confused about what happens where... currently stuck at some problem with local changes to .css and .po files. should it work? anyone got a hint? tcohen?
12:03 magnuse          happy new year!
11:57 cait             hola and happy new year! :)
11:57 tcohen           happy new year!
11:57 tcohen           Hola
11:57 cait             I was hoping fora nother quiet week, but I think it's not going to happen
11:56 * oleonard       has just a bit of email to get through today ;)
11:55 cait             happy new year oleonard :)
11:35 oleonard         Hi #koha, Happy New Year
09:56 cait             but it changes with every reload, so... :)
09:56 cait             that sounds very much like me yes
09:44 ashimema         >i can not not plan! i am german!
09:44 * ashimema       wonders if todays quote is cait
09:43 ashimema         doesn't get a great deal of love
09:43 ashimema         but I'd also rather like it to be bootstap updated and a few other things first
09:42 ashimema         wouldn't mind some more seasonal themes for the dashboard though
09:42 ashimema         it was rather christmassy
09:42 cait             wasn#t it a winter theme? :)
09:38 ashimema         it was nice seeing you
09:38 ashimema         bye bye xmas theme
09:20 cait             thx magnuse :)
09:17 magnuse          cait: o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
09:15 magnuse          happy new year!
09:14 cait             hm wahanui bot still missing
09:14 ashimema         happy new year 🙂
09:14 cait             confetti! :)
09:09 aude_c[m]        Happy new year!
09:07 paulderscheid[m] From me as well, good morning #koha
08:48 Annelisterman[m] Happy new year! :)
08:46 cait             good morning and a happy new year everyone :)
08:29 PedroAmorim[m]   o/
08:29 puphaus[m]       Good Morning everyone :)
08:19 cait             good morning #koha
07:58 magnuse          davidnind++ 595 signoffs in 2023 is just amazing!
07:10 ashimema         Morning
07:01 krimsonkharne[m] morning #koha!