Time Nick Message 08:01 cait2 good morning #koha 08:01 cait2 anyone around? 08:03 Annelisterman[m] Physically yes, mentally.. perhaps 08:05 cait2 :) 08:05 davidnind good evening! 08:06 cait hi davidnind! 08:06 davidnind :-) 08:06 cait hope you two had nice christmas holidays! 08:09 Annelisterman[m] It was pretty quiet. Some snow clearing to do. :) 08:10 davidnind it was good - had Xmas at my niece's, and visited cousins - hope you had a nice day as well! 08:11 krimsonkharne[m] morning all! 08:59 cait Annelisterman[m], davidnind: sorry, got pulled away by restarts for updates... had a lovely christmas with family as well :) 09:13 ashimema morning #koha 09:40 aude_c[m] 'Morning! 09:45 saa how to enable virtualkeyboard in koha for regional language search 09:46 saa in opac 09:51 krimsonkharne[m] saa: I think this was asked once a long time ago, I found a response linking to https://greywyvern.com/code/javascript/keyboard/ 09:51 krimsonkharne[m] see "Installation".. you'll probably need to put that js in the html of the opac header 09:52 krimsonkharne[m] I don't know how you would use it in Koha's search bar though 09:53 saa right thats what i am wondering 09:54 saa is there any simple way to copy paste some script and enable in OPAC so that users can search in different languages 09:55 krimsonkharne[m] the "right" way of doing it would be enabling the installed languages in the system preference OPACLanguages (and make sure opaclanguagesdisplay is enabled) 09:55 krimsonkharne[m] but you would need to install the languages first (I think, I've never done it myself :-) ) 09:56 krimsonkharne[m] ah, sorry, misunderstood.. that's for display, not for searching 09:57 krimsonkharne[m] I think someone else will have to chime in on that, I don't have any experience with searching different languages 09:58 saa i hope someone will guide 10:02 saa one more query opac suggestions autofill if enabled will it help like google display words while searching 10:02 saa after enabling is it necessary to restart any service to see this feature working in opac 10:08 cait We don't have an auto-complete feature at the moment, but I believe there are some snippets in the jQuery library maybe 10:09 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library 10:10 cait there is also no feature to enable other screen keyboards, there is a self made solution you could copy here: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_add_an_OPAC_screen_keyboard - but it's a bit limited and could be better looking (I wrote it, so I know) 10:11 krimsonkharne[m] oh, neat 10:11 krimsonkharne[m] cait++ 10:19 cait there is also Bug 12815 - but it seems to haven't moved in a while - maybe a comment would help 10:19 cait https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12815 10:19 huginn` 04Bug 12815: enhancement, P3, ---, indradg, ASSIGNED , Adding browser based multi-lingual jquery.ime input method support to Koha 10:30 saa thank you cait let me explore 11:17 tcohen morning 11:17 ashimema morning tcohen 11:18 ashimema hope you had a good xmas 11:27 * cait waves at ashimema and tcohen 11:28 tcohen hi cait! 11:42 cait hm why are license users limited to staff with permissions in the ERM module? 11:42 cait I had expected that I could also add patrons/members of the institution staff 11:42 cait but maybe I am misunderstanding what users is meaning here 11:43 ashimema pass 11:43 ashimema the chaps in the know here aren't around to day either I'm afraid 11:44 tcohen not on my wheelhouse 11:44 cait i found Bug 33427 11:45 cait thx for replying anyway :) at least the bug tells me I didn't miss something fundamental 11:46 tcohen bug 33427 11:46 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33427 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, NEW , Managing individual users with access to subscriptions 11:47 tcohen silly VPN issue sorted. back to work! 11:47 tcohen @later tell Joubu I don't have metrics, but it feels like the weblate server is a slow one 11:47 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 11:48 tcohen I've been looking at the logs while working on translations, the moments it got stuck the Postgres process was using CPU like crazy 11:48 Annelisterman[m] I was just about to complain that Weblate is soooooo slow. x) 11:49 tcohen Annelisterman[m]: when you translate something, it gets applied to all other versions 11:49 tcohen that's the step that takes a lot of time, sometimes :-P 11:49 tcohen and the statistics update as well 11:50 Annelisterman[m] I just changed to next translation without any changes and it has been thinking about it for at least 3-4 minutes. 11:51 tcohen get a DeLorean and move a few minutes in the future 11:51 Annelisterman[m] oh, that would be handy 11:52 tcohen server load is around 9 11:52 tcohen with 4 CPU 11:53 Annelisterman[m] 9 of 100? 11:53 cait it can be super fast too, it was in testing initially 11:53 cait maybe we need to tweak configuration/setup 11:53 tcohen 900 of 100, Annelisterman[m] 11:53 tcohen cait: maybe it needs a bigger/faster server 11:54 tcohen it has plenty of memory 11:55 Annelisterman[m] mostly it is ok and quite fast but there are times when it's just pondering something really deep and meaningful. 11:55 cait maybe Postgres needs more resources? 11:56 cait but I am guessing, it just seems that this was almost our issue with performance recently :) 11:56 tcohen asking my sysadmin to look at it 12:01 cait tcohen++ sysadmin++ 12:50 tcohen ok, we did some tuning 12:50 tcohen and we have less IO load and IO wait 12:51 tcohen and Postgres uses much more memory 12:51 tcohen but it seems anytime someone enters somewhere no one was at before 12:51 tcohen it takes a lot of resources to build a cache or smth 12:51 cait ah yeah, I noticed that - the second time it speeds up 12:52 tcohen the HDD is an old one 12:52 tcohen and there was just too much IO 12:52 tcohen gabriel++ 13:10 cait anyone else seen a lot of jobs getting stuck as new in rabbitMQ? 13:11 cait Elasticsearch indexing jobs especially 13:21 ashimema Es had it's own worker now didn't it 13:30 cait it should yes 13:31 cait from what I gathered so far there are 3 processes handling the task queue 13:31 cait the "normal" the "long tasks" and the elastic one 13:40 cait ashimema: do your libraries run with RabbitMQ? do you have any issues with jobs not getting done? 13:52 ashimema We turn it off 13:52 cait ok thx 13:53 cait did you notice any disadvantages without? 13:53 cait and how do you turn it off actually? is there a switch somewhere? 13:55 ashimema Just kill rabbit 13:56 ashimema The workers will then fall back to polling the database 14:00 cait since introduction of rabbitMQ this channel got more violent 14:13 ashimema lol 14:13 ashimema i don't know who is using rabbit honestly 14:14 cait I know someone who is trying 14:15 ashimema I think in theory if your going to use multiple workers for the same queue to process jobs in parallel the rabbit is better 14:15 ashimema but so far I've not really seen any need to do that 14:15 ashimema and really, not many of our jobs are actually designed for such running anyway yet 14:16 ashimema I think I'd be pro putting a switch in rather than the current behaviour of filling the logs and putting a warning in the about oage 14:17 ashimema yup 14:17 cait can you explain that last bit? 14:22 ashimema currently database polling is a fallback. if you uninstall or stop the rabbit service, SQL will take over. 14:22 ashimema but 14:22 ashimema we'll spit out a warning in the logs forever 14:23 ashimema and put a message on the about page 14:24 cait oh that's not realyl nice 14:24 cait yeah, a proper switch would do better especially if a lot of people are running with SQL 14:24 ashimema yup 14:24 cait do you want me to file a bug for that? 14:25 cait .... and bad news on weblate - down for anyone but me? 14:25 cait 502 bad gateway on submitting a translation 14:26 ashimema feel free to submit a bug cait 14:26 ashimema I don't think it would be all that hard to achieve 14:26 ashimema but I also know some people are keen to rip out the sql polling support entirely instead 14:27 ashimema I don't know the answer 14:27 cait you mean people might disagree... I can live with that 14:31 cait bug 35655 14:31 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35655 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Make it possible to switch off RabbitMQ without any warns in logs/about page 14:32 cait tcohen: could you check on the weblate server again? 15:10 cait it's not working at all for me right now 16:28 * cait waves 16:42 tuxayo 260 working runs of the tests for Bug 35506 so far :) 16:42 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35506 normal, P5 - low, ---, victor, ASSIGNED , selenium/regressions.t is failing randomly 17:01 cait ashimema or tcohen still around? 17:02 cait RM question about a patch 17:02 ashimema Phone only now I'm afraid 17:02 cait maybe it's easy 17:02 cait I am reviewing 31297 17:02 ashimema Fire away 17:02 cait you changed the database structure 17:02 ashimema Bug 31279 17:02 cait i need to run dbic right? 17:02 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31279 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, CLOSED INVALID, Getting error 500 while doing a search in koha catalogue 17:02 cait h 17:02 cait 31297 17:03 ashimema Bug 31297 17:03 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31297 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Passed QA , Cannot add new subscription patterns from edit subscription page 17:03 ashimema Lol 17:03 cait double checked, I got the number right in my DBRev commit 17:03 ashimema Okies 17:04 ashimema Yes, you do need to run dbic 17:04 cait so i ran dbic and i have a change in SubscriptionNumberpattern.pm 17:04 ashimema And commit the result 🙂 17:04 cait ok cool :) 17:04 cait on the right path then 17:04 ashimema Coolioes 17:04 cait should i just rwap it in the DBRev patch or better keep separate? 17:05 cait hm looks like we keep them separate from history 17:07 cait got it; I think :) 17:10 ashimema Nice one cait 17:12 cait another first - but getting there 17:15 cait ashimema++ # thx!