Time  Nick             Message
08:13 * cait1          waves
08:36 * cait           waves again
08:42 cait             that's... quiet
08:44 davidnind        waves 👋
08:52 marcelr          hi #koha
08:52 marcelr          back on bug 33507 now
08:52 huginn`          04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pedro.amorim, ASSIGNED , EBSCO packages - Dont list already related agreements when adding a new agreement
08:53 marcelr          no
08:53 marcelr          bug 35507
08:53 huginn`          04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35507 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , TestBuilder.t is failing randomly
08:53 marcelr          yes thats him
09:24 PedroAmorim[m]   o/
09:27 cait             hi marcelr
09:27 cait             and marcelr++ #work on the failing tests
09:30 cait             davidnind++ :)
09:30 cait             I was woring through some notes I had left from translating yesterday
09:36 davidnind        No problem! Always nice to tidy things up while they are fresh.
09:42 cait             :)
10:05 paulderscheid[m] hi #koha
10:09 cait1            hi paulderscheid[m]
10:10 paulderscheid[m] howdy cait
10:19 cait1            Joubu: around?
11:09 tcohen[m]        hola #koha o/
11:31 krimsonkharne[m] morning all
12:10 * cait           waves
12:30 marcelr          o/
12:30 marcelr          cait: going back now to 35507
12:36 cait             go marcelr go :)
13:20 krimsonkharne[m] * waves back to cait
13:23 paulderscheid[m] mtj around?
13:24 cait             @seen mtj
13:24 cait             ok, no wahanui either
13:24 paulderscheid[m] I think that's broken :D
13:25 cait             yeah, no bots no fun
13:25 paulderscheid[m] I think it's 2AM for mtj rn, so my bad.
13:26 cait             with mtj you never know
13:26 paulderscheid[m] yep, always worth a try :)
13:32 magnuse          \o/
13:33 magnuse          [2023/12/11 13:46:21] [WARN] Update of elastic index failed with: Exception 'Koha::Exceptions::Elasticsearch::BadResponse' thrown 'Bad response received when submitting request to Elasticsearch' with details => [http://x.x.x.x:9200]-[400] [action_request_validation_exception] Validation Failed: 1: type is missing;, type => Request main::catch {...}  /usr/share/koha/bin/workers/es_indexer_daemon.pl (190)
13:33 magnuse          anyone recnize that?
13:34 magnuse          i can't really tell if "type is missing" is a problem with the exception itself or with elasticsearch
13:41 tcohen[m]        /quit
13:50 magnuse          tcohen: you wish ;-)
13:53 tcohen_          \o/
13:53 tcohen_          I unplugged myself from the Matrix
13:53 tcohen_          haha
13:59 tcohen           am I online?
14:00 tcohen           [10:59:35]  <huginn`> Sent 4 weeks, 3 days, 5 hours, and 46 minutes ago: <Joubu> Bump node to v18 backported - 23.05 22.11 22.05 21.11
14:00 cait             yes
14:00 tcohen           ^^ I'm so sorry y'all that have been sending me @later
14:00 tcohen           I've got 40 of those
14:04 cait             wow, that's like opening your post box after... 3 years? :)
14:05 tcohen           pretty much, yeah
14:12 marcelr          tcohen: hi, i stepped into a minefield with plugins :)
14:12 tcohen           enjoy
14:12 marcelr          haha
14:12 tcohen           hope you brought your bullet-proof vest
14:13 tcohen           marcelr seriously, I think we should stay pragmatic for now there
14:14 marcelr          there is already something with the current tests, run in particular order etc
14:14 marcelr          the data is not always cleaned after running etc
14:15 marcelr          so yeah there are implicit commits somewhere
14:20 cait             I'd love to see Jenkins at least a alittle more green
14:20 cait             altough it seems like a lot might be caused by this one
14:29 tcohen           jenkins *is* green
14:29 cait             I hope to return to pushing tomorrow - with a fix for at leat one test? :)
14:29 cait             so it is...
14:29 cait             when did that happen?
14:29 tcohen           https://jenkins.koha-community.org/view/master/
14:30 tcohen           https://jenkins.koha-community.org/view/master/job/Koha_Master/
14:30 cait             amazing
14:30 tcohen           it is failing randomly
14:30 tcohen           so sometimes it is green :-P
14:30 cait             lol
14:30 cait             but I got all my ILL files all over the place, need to tidy up before pushing :)
15:25 cait             we lost tcohen
17:35 caroline         Are there instructions for the new misc/translator/po structure?
17:36 cait             are you on ktd now?
17:37 cait             or more: what are you tring to do? general information ins in the wiki, the structure I believe is the same, but we are handling things differently
17:37 caroline         can you give me the wiki page? I tried searching koha-i10n and I can't find instructions
17:38 caroline         I'm trying to modify some strings to take a screenshot in french
17:38 cait             ah
17:38 cait             if you have ktd
17:38 cait             and your git has been nice and tidy (no installed languages)
17:38 cait             it just works as before
17:38 cait             but I had trobule to get my po files included when my git repository was not clean
17:39 cait             when running ktd up
17:39 cait             git status should not show any template fiels etc. I think
17:39 caroline         ok maybe that's it... but didn't we have to clone koha-i10n in misc/translator/po or something? I remember reading this and being a bit confused
17:39 cait             then on up, my po files appeared in misc/translate/po as before
17:39 cait             yeah I did that at first, but it seems not necessary if things work correctly
17:40 cait             if you can't make it work otherwise it would probably do the trick
17:40 caroline         ok i'll try down, git reset, then up again
17:41 cait             i had to really rm -r the directories
17:41 cait             it might be different for you
17:41 cait             the repository it pulls from is here: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-l10n
17:41 cait             what I also sometimes do for screenshots is modify the strings in the web developer tools (browser)
17:45 cait             we shoudl have some sample subscriptions
17:45 * cait           says she adding a dummy subscription for the 10.0000th time
17:47 pastebot         "davidnind" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "My workflow notes for testing bugs with translation changes when using KTD (such as they are)" (65 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/32311
17:47 caroline         I removed all the .pot et al files that were "untracked" in my main koha repo
17:47 caroline         I still have one directory that won't go away, but it's not to do with translations
17:48 cait             i think you don't need the git clone bit
17:48 cait             I didn't do it and have nice po files in master
17:48 cait             only if you need really the very latest from pootle
17:50 caroline         davidnind, did you add those notes to https://gitlab.com/-/snippets/1893788 ?
17:50 caroline         It's my main KTD manual :)
17:51 davidnind        Not yet, I'll also add on the Wiki somewhere - still a couple of things to figure out
17:51 * cait           is nervously pushing stuff to master right now
17:52 davidnind        I should probably create a KTD guide  (I think I've said that before...) 🙂
17:53 caroline         that snippet thing is pretty great
17:53 cait             did the up work?
17:53 caroline         it's running....
17:54 caroline         it's very long on my computer, one of the reasons I don't "up" it that often
17:54 cait             understandable
17:56 caroline         nothing new in misc/translator/po
17:56 cait             hm :(
17:56 cait             it works for me
17:56 cait             is /po empty?
17:57 caroline         to access is it `docker exec -it koha-koha-1 bash` then cd koha/misc/translator/po ?
17:57 caroline         maybe I'm not looking in the right place
17:59 caroline         I didn't make any link to koha-i10n either, I feel like it's something I should do?
17:59 caroline         in a conf file or whatever
17:59 caroline         I don't believe it magically knows where the files are
17:59 cait             ktd should do it for you
17:59 cait             wish we had a Joubu :)
18:00 cait             it knows where the community repo is
18:00 davidnind        I think if misc/translator/po (where the koha-l10n clone is) is on master, it updates when you startup KTD (does a git pull)
18:00 caroline         yeah but in my master clone, I didn't tell it to go fetch in koha-i10n
18:01 caroline         maybe I'm making this more complicated that it is
18:01 cait             you shouldn't need to tell it
18:01 cait             ... oh ohter idea - sandbox?
18:01 cait             ah...y ou need to make changes.
18:01 caroline         yes
18:01 caroline         I wanted to do it on my local install, but I don't have the po files there anymore
18:02 cait             sorry, I lost track of hte problem
18:02 caroline         meh, I spent enough time on this for today (especially without lunch in my stomach, is not helping)
18:04 * cait           sends caroline cookies
18:04 cait             do we have an easy way to run a specific db update...
18:04 cait             ?
18:05 cait             for testing?
18:05 davidnind        and some chocolate as well... 8-)
18:05 caroline         thanks yall!
18:06 caroline         this weekend, my partner and I were talking/reminiscing about the whittaker chocolate you sent me lol
18:06 cait             understandable :)
18:06 davidnind        I'm sure it is long gone now...
18:06 caroline         I was looking at the postcards you had sent me
18:07 cait             rangi gave me some... I still think about caaramelised white chocolate
18:07 caroline         lol!
18:07 caroline         I think my partner would have married the fruit & nuts one
18:08 cait             actually the packaging is still pinned to my board behind me heh
18:08 caroline         (for arrested development fans: "Why don't you marry your ice cream sandwich??" XD)
18:08 cait             I tricked Koha into thinking it was an earlier version :P
18:47 cait             RM queue from 35 (22) > 28 (16) -  I think some QA must have happened meanwhile :) (14 bugs pushed actually)
18:48 cait             ah no, the script was not done yet! (still practicing)
18:48 cait             RM queue from 35 (22) > 21 (9)
18:48 cait             that reads much nicer :)
18:49 tcohen           cait++
18:50 cait             there are a few big and bad I ran out of tiem for tonight - not forgotten!
19:22 JasonGreene[m]   While looking at the "how to" videos, they are all on older versions of Koha and sort of don't match the newest version or I'm really missing things.
19:24 cait             which how to videos are you referring to?
19:25 cait             we had a big change with 22.11 - new staff interface design, that might explain some major differences
19:28 JasonGreene[m]   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpHlZBRnMq4&t=105s
19:29 JasonGreene[m]   I just installed Koha version:	23.05.04
19:32 davidnind        The ByWater Solutions (https://www.youtube.com/@bywatersolutions https://koha.bywatersolutions.com/), koha-US (https://www.youtube.com/@kohaUS + https://koha-us.org/learn/), and PTFS Europe (https://www.youtube.com/@PTFSEurope) YouTube channels have reasonably current videos on lots of topics
19:32 JasonGreene[m]   thanks for the links
19:33 davidnind        For ByWater Solutions, most of the recent "Monday Minutes" videos have been on 23.05 changes
19:34 JasonGreene[m]   great
19:34 davidnind        Also, https://www.youtube.com/@RAFLIMTS
19:37 davidnind        Apologies that I haven't updated the Koha YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/@KohaILS) with recent links to useful videos - on my to do list
19:40 cait             davidnind++