Time Nick Message 07:04 reiveune hello 07:23 krimsonkharne[m] good morning #koha 07:31 magnuse \o/ 07:33 Joubu PedroAmorim[m]: I freed up some disk space on Docker_77 07:33 Joubu Docker_7 even 07:45 magnuse i'm trying to build custom packages with pbuilder, debian/build-git-snapshot and https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way but there are some problems. is there a new and better way to build packages? 07:51 ashimema we're using the docker builder magnuse 07:52 ashimema https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-dpkg-docker 07:53 ashimema or more accurately for us.. a very minorly forked version: https://gitlab.com/ptfs-europe/koha-dpkg-docker 07:53 magnuse sounds promising :-) 07:53 magnuse ashimema++ 07:54 ashimema as a little extra thought.. if you're building packages regularly I'd encourage a similar approach to ours now.. we don't a Jenkins node to community with the caveat that it'll also build our own custom branch and then build a package from it when we push 07:55 ashimema it's a win win.. we donate compute power to the Jenkins cluster.. but get to use the Jenkins infrastructure to run our builds (which are pretty rare and just a few commits ahead of community stable when we deem fit) 07:55 magnuse cool, i'll have a look into it 07:57 ashimema no pressure of course.. we've just found it to work really well here and I think it's helped to alleviate a little bit of the bottleneck in community too 🙂 07:57 * ashimema likes to find any excuse he can to help community 07:58 ashimema right.. I best go do breakfast for the hoards.. hehe 07:58 magnuse +1 08:11 magnuse i took the liberty of marking https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way as obsolete. i'll reverse it if anyone complains 08:18 Joubu I would not add the obsolete tag, it remove the patch from the default search results 08:18 Joubu I would not add the obsolete tag, it removes the page from the default search results* 08:23 ashimema we actually basically use that method internally in the docker image.. it's just that the docker image hide most of the complexities away 😜 08:24 ashimema but yeah.. probably worthwhile highlighting the docker images are easier now and more well maintained by community 08:24 * cait waves 08:27 ashimema morning cait 08:27 cait morning 08:28 ashimema Joubu 08:28 ashimema I've just been looking a the roadmap for next cycle 08:29 ashimema do you think Cities in Vue should be dependant on Make Vue code abailable from other area's ? 08:29 ashimema I feel like building out that foundation first is the right order of things? 08:29 ashimema but do correct me if I'm wrong 08:29 Joubu no, two different things 08:29 ashimema glad I asked 🙂 08:29 ashimema crap, school run 08:29 ashimema brb 08:30 cait yes, please pretty up the road map with info 08:30 Joubu the idea of cities/vue is to provide a step-by-step guide (git log) to implement a new module in Vue (or rewrite one), to understand the different bricks and how they are nested together 08:31 Joubu make Vue code reusable - we have fetch.js for instance that is a nice piece of code to access the Koha REST API. We could make it reusable from non-Vue code. 09:05 ashimema Oh, I see.. so I misunderstood that second bug.. didn't realise it was 'from non Vue code' that's the target.. cool 09:16 PedroAmorim[m] <Joubu> "Pedro Amorim: I freed up some..." <- thanks! 09:16 PedroAmorim[m] o/ 09:35 PedroAmorim[m] Joubu: Can you please do the same for Docker_4? 09:35 PedroAmorim[m] https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_22.11_D10/268/console 09:35 Joubu I don't have access to docker_4 09:36 Joubu ho, maybe I do! 09:36 Joubu /dev/sda2 19G 8.6G 9.1G 49% / 09:40 Joubu @later tell tcohen[m] https://paste.koha-community.org/30909 - should not this be removed when the run is finished? 09:40 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 09:42 Joubu /dev/sdb 40G 38G 0 100% /srv 09:42 Joubu heh, that one 09:42 Joubu @later tell tcohen[m] run root@docker4:~# rm -rf /srv/jenkins/workspace/Koha_*-cleanup_* 09:42 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 09:43 Joubu @later tell tcohen[m] /dev/sdb 40G 6.5G 31G 18% /srv 09:43 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 09:43 Joubu PedroAmorim[m]: done 09:43 PedroAmorim[m] Joubu++ 10:16 Adarsh Hello! I need one help. When I am uploading anything at koha intra using uploads tool, it's progress is getting stucked at 0%. What should I do? 10:21 cait1 it might just take time 10:21 cait1 the progess bar in older versions especially is not very reliable 10:21 cait1 which kind of upload? (MARC records, images...?) 10:30 Adarsh MARC record or simply a pdf file upload of 15 mb. Smaller images are getting uploaded fast but not the pdf I'm trying to upload. 10:33 cait1 you could check the server logs for an error, but it might just take more time 10:48 Joubu cait1: re bug 35392 - do you think it should be part of 23.11? It's string changes and we are in string freeze, but it is actually a string fix :) 10:48 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35392 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matt.blenkinsop, Needs Signoff , HTML in translatable string 10:49 * ashimema was just reading that bug and considering the same question 10:49 ashimema it's on the cusp 10:55 Adarsh File upload progress is not getting ahead a single percent even after waiting for 20 mins. There is no relevant info in server logs. 10:56 Joubu which version of Koha are you using? 11:10 Joubu @later tell tcohen[m] ok so the removal of the workspaces failed on the node because of the po permissions issue we fixed last week. Some nodes are full have plenty of workspaces that need to be removed in /srv/jenkins/workspace 11:10 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 11:10 Joubu @later tell tcohen[m] some are older but should be removed as well (certainly similar problems) 11:10 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 11:11 Joubu @later tell tcohen[m] it needs to be done on docker_2, docker_3 and docker_5 (we don't have access to docker_5 however...) 11:11 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 11:12 Joubu @later tell mtj could you remove workspaces on docker_3 (there was a perm issue in ktd, re .po files): in /srv/jenkins/workspace you can remove all what is not "Koha_Source" and that is not currently running 11:12 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 11:14 Joubu ashimema: same on docker_8 please ^^ 11:15 ashimema on it 11:15 Adarsh Joubu: Koha version=23.05.04.000 11:17 ashimema just a an rm of Koha_Source right.. then it'll pull all the right stuff at next build? 11:17 Joubu no! 11:17 * ashimema isn't close to how Jenkins actually works 11:17 Joubu keep Koha_Source 11:18 ashimema what's needed then? 11:18 ashimema doh.. 11:18 ashimema I should read in full 11:18 ashimema we only have Koha_Source under /srv/jenkins/workspace 11:18 Joubu ho ok, nothing to do then! 11:19 Joubu did you remove it? 11:20 ashimema nope.. it was already clean 11:20 ashimema I leave this mostly to our infrastructure team here 😜 11:24 Adarsh Joubu: any comments on file upload? 11:25 cait1 Joubu: usually I'd say no - I just hope not too many people broke that string in translation 11:25 cait1 which reminds me... I still have to finish translation 11:27 Joubu Adarsh: please look at the Koha log files (tail -f /var/log/*/*.log) and the console of the browser 11:41 Annelisterman[m] I've been translating into Finnish and Weblate have some hilarious suggestions: Invoice -> miehen ääni (man's voice); Cancel order -> tanssiorkesteri (dance orchestra); South Africa -> suuharkko (mouth ingot or something like that); Netherlands -> kahdeksan kättä (eight hands) 11:44 Annelisterman[m] s/have/has/ 11:53 oleonard Hi #koha 12:14 ashimema is bug 14092 really an enhancements and not a bugfix? 12:14 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs documenting , Order search doesn't allow to search for 'all statuses' 12:15 ashimema I've reworded the title.. makes it sound more enhancement than bugfix now 12:21 Joubu Annelisterman[m]: where are you seeing them? In the "Automatic suggestions" tab? 12:22 Annelisterman[m] Joubu: No, like this 12:22 * Annelisterman[m] uploaded an image: (4KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/lPhQUWuxktmQucuXkRjUkDWE/image.png > 12:23 Joubu do you mean "kontrabasso" has been automatically filled? 12:24 Annelisterman[m] yes 12:24 Joubu can you share the url please? 12:24 Annelisterman[m] I already translated that but I'll give you the next one 12:24 Joubu I guess it's coming from there: 12:24 Joubu 1368 msgid "contrabass" 12:24 Joubu 1369 msgstr "kontrabasso" 12:25 Joubu "contrabass" is closed to "contract" 12:26 Joubu but when translating into French, the strings are empty when not translated yet 12:26 Annelisterman[m] Some of them are empty, some have those kind of suggestions 12:26 Joubu does the UI tell you it's a suggestion? 12:27 Annelisterman[m] usually it has the selection in "requires modification" (or whatever it is actually in English) 12:28 Annelisterman[m] but otherwise no 12:28 Joubu there are services we can enable for automatic suggestions, like deepl, google translate, etc. They will certainly provide more accurate suggestions :) 12:30 Annelisterman[m] https://translate.koha-community.org/translate/koha/master/messages/fi/?checksum=2bc1b245cb42afc1 that one has also "tanssiorkesteri" 12:30 Joubu this is in the .po files: 12:30 Joubu 5967 msgid "Advanced search" 12:30 Joubu 5968 msgstr "tanssiorkesteri" 12:31 Joubu so it's not coming from a weblate's suggestion 12:32 Annelisterman[m] ok. I'm pretty sure I haven't translated those like that so they must come from somewhere else. :D 12:32 Annelisterman[m] (or other Finnish translators) 12:38 Annelisterman[m] Generally Weblate's automatic suggestions (the tab) are quite good. 12:43 tcohen[m] We've had some of those weird ones on es-ES, not too many. We are done with the translation \o/ 12:47 Joubu tcohen: 12:47 Joubu +msgid "Advanced search" 12:47 Joubu +msgstr "orquesta de danza" 12:47 Joubu yes, something weird happened at some point... 12:48 Annelisterman[m] same as in Finnish? Dance orchestra. :D 12:48 cait1 lol 12:48 cait1 we should just change the English :) 12:48 cait I haven't enountered that one yet, but still behind with my translation schedule 12:49 Joubu +msgid "Advanced search" 12:49 Joubu +msgstr "Tanzorchester" 12:49 Joubu that's so weird! 12:50 Joubu +msgid "Netherlands" 12:50 Joubu +msgstr "achthändig" 12:50 Joubu 12:50 Annelisterman[m] Someone really wants us to dance 12:50 Joubu +msgid "Netherlands" 12:50 Joubu +msgstr "ocho manos" 12:51 cait ashimema++ for cleaning up release notes 12:56 tcohen[m] Joubu: is "Advanced search" wrongly translated? 12:56 tcohen[m] do we have a lbame tool? 12:56 Joubu There is definitely something weird in the first "update from Koha" commit in koha-l10n. Some strings have been auto translated (but marked fuzzy) with another string from the same file (messages). 12:57 Joubu no idea how it happened but apparently there are not much occurrences so I will just ignore that and pretend like nothing happened 12:57 Joubu tcohen[m]: what I am saying, it has been "auto generated" at the beginning of koha-l10n 12:57 Joubu it was not in pootle 12:57 Joubu this is a bit crazy and scary to be honest... :D 12:58 tcohen[m] We will survive 12:58 Joubu if there are not many more, yes 12:59 tcohen[m] Joubu: question: https://translate.koha-community.org/search/?page=2&limit=100&q=source%3A%3D%22Advanced+search%22+&sort_by=priority%2C-position 12:59 tcohen[m] how do I filter by language there 13:00 tcohen[m] I think I got it, I need to jump to the language and THEN search 13:01 Joubu tcohen[m]: in the custom search field, add language:="es-ES" 13:02 Joubu source:="Advanced search" language:="es-ES" 13:02 Joubu and, read that: https://docs.weblate.org/en/latest/user/search.html 13:09 thd ashimema: Are you present? 13:10 Joubu aude_c[m]: to add a new page to the manual I think the only thing you need is to add it to index.rst 13:18 cait tcohen I also chose the language first, then search, seems to work ok 13:29 aude_c[m] Thanks Joubu ! 13:42 caroline cait, do you have time to answer some questions about serials and acquisitions? There is a process I'm not sure about 13:45 caroline also aude_c[m] I might be a teensy bit late tomorrow. I have a daily meeting at the same time, although our meeting is just around 15 minutes (it's just a daily coordination thing we do at the beginning of the day) 13:55 cait Ic an try! 13:56 cait caroline: I can try :) 13:57 caroline thanks! it's about adding serial subscriptions to acquisitions... I'm trying to figure out how it works "in real life". I get how it works in Koha, but some of it doesn't make sense.... 13:58 caroline So you create a basket, add a subscription. Then you have to "receive" it as if it's a book right? Even though you don't really receive it? 13:59 Joubu Annelisterman[m], and others: I have added a local repository of "LibreTranslate" to provide suggestions on Weblate. Please let me know how accurate/useful it is. 13:59 Joubu this is for testing purpose 14:00 caroline And when you renew the subscription, there is nothing automatically done in acq even if the subscription is already linked to a basket? 14:03 caroline I also noted this before but I think it's a bug: even after the number of issues set in the subscription, the issues keep being generated. And if you delete the last one, it generates the next one. There is no way to not have one last unreceived issue (at least I didn't find one) 14:06 Annelisterman[m] Joubu: I've seen two suggestions from LibreTranslate so far and those were quite useless (first one had completely wrong context, other one was same as the original). But let's see if they get better. :) 14:13 cait back, reading! sorry, got distracted 14:14 cait caroline: I think your last point about the last issue is separate from the others - if you "close" a subscription the last issue will be the last, but that's the only way right now. It doesn't really "end" - I think it might be something that coudl make sense to change 14:15 cait For the connection I think most of our libraries have decided to use a combination of "order from subscription" with "standing order" now 14:15 cait we treat the receive as "processing invoices" 14:15 cait ussually they get one invoice a year, so quantity is 1 14:15 cait ... and it's a standing order so it has to be 1 anyway 14:16 cait the main issue we have is that they want it to show up as encumbered in the budgets, but they don't want to recreate the orders every year 14:16 cait most of those subscriptions never end until they are actively cancelled 14:16 cait Koha doesn't have a super nice workflow for those yet 14:16 caroline ok I'll try that, it makes sense 14:17 Joubu Annelisterman[m]: I am getting quite good results, even for full sentences (in French) 14:17 cait the problem with standing orers is that the budgets are still wrong one way or another 14:17 cait if you have standing order with an amount, that amount will keep showing up encumbered and later spent 14:17 cait if yu leave at 0 you don't see how much you are going to spend... 14:18 cait but it's the lesser evil I guess 14:18 cait we have suggested using the copy order funtionality to recreate the orders in the next year, but that hasn't been adopted 14:19 caroline I was thinking that if we were to improve it, the "order from subscription" should be a different workflow 14:19 cait and yes, there is no connection between the receive issue and the receive (invoice) in acq, nothin you do in acq will alter yur subscription, or only the acq details tab there 14:21 cait I still think copying them to the new year might be the most accurate action Koha wise 14:21 cait the standing order is not really quite right here 14:23 caroline Ok, I'll try to figure out something for my client. It's their first year using koha (and serials) and they were quite exasperated. I kind of understand, serials is not easy at all 14:26 caroline thanks for your help! 14:29 cait we should certainly discuss the workflow there sometime and come up with some improvement ideas :) 14:29 cait MichaelaSieberBIB[m] might be on board too 14:29 caroline I know the french user group is working on improving serials, but from what I've seen, their work is only for the serials part, not hte link to acquisitions 14:38 cait caroline: I didn't know that, is there anything online? 14:38 caroline so far it's on the french mailing list... I'll check if they have it on their website 14:39 caroline hm, they haven't added it yet 14:40 caroline I can forward you the test plan they have if you want? 14:51 cait hm yes please :) 15:14 cait oleonard-away: around? 15:14 oleonard yes 15:18 thd ashimema: Are you semi-present now? 15:18 cait I was wondering about this string: https://translate.koha-community.org/translate/koha/master/staff-prog/de/?checksum=07e14f31c27132d3 15:18 cait I filed a bug to look at it later (35422) 15:18 ashimema On a school run 15:19 ashimema Not managed to talk to our team here about email yet I'm afraid 15:31 cait 2 more files to translate -installer and prefs 15:32 caroline cait++ woot! 15:32 lukeg Morning 15:32 caroline when is the deadline? 15:33 caroline I have 3 left, 94%, 95%, and 96% 15:33 aude_c[m] <caroline> "also aude_c I might be a..." <- caroline: Thank you for letting me know 👍️ 15:37 tcohen[m] When caroline and cait finish their translations, that's the deadline 15:37 caroline lol! 15:40 caroline oh yeah... I'm at "Bookings"... that's why I had stopped doing staff-prog 15:40 caroline how did you all translate Bookings? In french, it would be the same word as hold 15:43 thd ashimema: I am going to announce the forthcoming Feb. 2024 issue on at least the koha-devel list. 15:43 aude_c[m] Would it be relevant to cheat a bit and call them something like "Réservations anticipées" ? 15:44 caroline that's an idea! 15:45 aude_c[m] Just thinking about that because I've already been asked what was the difference between holds and bookings... And my reply was something like: holds = reservation of next available item for period specified by circ rules (loan + renewal); booking = reservation in advance for specific period of time 15:46 caroline one of our clients has that functionality and they call it "Mise de côté", but I think it's too similar to Holds awaiting pickup 15:47 cait in German... Reservierung oder Buchung I think - so we are not too far off Booking 15:47 cait we use something different for the holds, so that works out this time 15:47 caroline according to deepl, Reservierung oder Buchung is the same word in french as hold 15:48 cait I had some trobule with the vnedor issues not to get them confused with serial issues 15:48 cait caroline: interesting! 15:48 aude_c[m] And "Mise de côté" would sound weird if people start using Bookings for things like rooms... (which they already are over here - even if that means having a fake bib record for each room) 15:49 cait aude_c[m]: there is a nice room reservation plugin from paulderscheid[m] :) 15:49 caroline I haven't got to vendor issues yet, but I would probably use the word for problem 15:49 paulderscheid[m] Yeah, got a lot better in the last release 15:49 cait yeah i did, just had to sort out what was a vendor issue string and wahtnot :) 15:50 caroline ah ok! 15:50 caroline yes, context would probably help if the string is just "Issue" 15:50 cait so be careful witht he issues when you get there :) it helps that strings from the same files now appear together mostly 15:54 aude_c[m] cait: Yes, still need to try that! 👍️ 15:56 cait :) 15:57 aude_c[m] caroline: I will let you do the honours of merging the new preservation chapter on the manual (as you're the one who's done the hard work of checking it for errors 🙂) 15:57 caroline lol ok! 15:57 aude_c[m] and I will follow-up with a tweak to index.rst 15:58 caroline I was going to try to add it directly... not sure if I'll be able, we'll see 15:58 aude_c[m] 👍️ 15:59 caroline did you read to check for typos? I know Joubu found a couple 15:59 aude_c[m] Ah no I didn't 16:00 caroline ok, worst comes to worst, we can correct them after 16:00 aude_c[m] I can do that afterwards and fix them myself? Don't want to discourage Amaury 😅 16:00 caroline same lol! 16:17 paulderscheid[m] Just out of curiosity, what does this convention mean $THE_something? 16:17 paulderscheid[m] Is there some deeper meaning to it or just to avoid reassignment? 16:38 caroline aude_c[m], I just realized, there is no version note on the preservation module chapter 16:38 caroline can you add it with your spelling corrections? 16:38 aude_c[m] Hehe! Yes, I will 16:38 caroline https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/preservation.html 16:38 caroline There are a couple of formatting issues as well 16:39 caroline but I'm very impressed for a first contribution! 16:39 aude_c[m] Yes, I can see that already! 16:39 aude_c[m] And yes, totally impressed too 👏 16:40 caroline I hadn't realized the "Train" icon was an actual train... If we change it in translation the icon won't make any sense 16:40 aude_c[m] Not sure if he's around of what his proper nickname is but 16:40 ashimema hahahahaha 16:41 aude_c[m] amaurygau++ for the massive contribution to the Manual that is the Preservation chapter! 16:41 caroline amaurygau++ 16:42 aude_c[m] I'm too bothered by the icon... The waiting list one looks a recycling icon to me 😅 16:42 caroline yes, I'm not sure about that one either 16:42 aude_c[m] I'm *not too bothered, is what I meant 16:42 caroline somehow that's how I read it anyway lol! 16:43 aude_c[m] So my thinking is that it doesn't matter what you translate it as 16:43 thd For good fun, sending a message to the mailing list which accidentally includes someone else's HTML attachement produces strange behaviour from Mailman. Beware the forward function as a quick link to a mailing list compose window. 16:43 aude_c[m] The train icon conveys to me the idea of something that's going to go on its way :D 16:44 aude_c[m] and that works 16:46 ashimema choo choo 16:47 aude_c[m] Exactly :D The batch of things is going on a journey! 16:48 thd I think previously David Cook had complained that he had not seen his own messages copied back to him from the koha-devel mailing list. Maybe the lack of a copy back is unrelated and Mailman has sanctioned me for abusing the email client forward function. 16:48 aude_c[m] I'm almost surprised the Waiting list isn't called the Waiting room 😉 16:50 thd If you leave the waiting room you go to the back of the queue on the waiting list. 16:52 aude_c[m] haha! 17:05 thd caroline: Are you subscribed to the koha-devel list? 17:06 caroline thd, no 17:06 caroline but some of my colleagues are, do you need to check something? 17:07 thd I need to know if my message to the koha-devel list was sent to anyone today. 17:08 caroline ok I asked on the company chat, I'll let you know 17:08 thd I accidentally had an HTML attachment from David Cook in the compose window and now my messages to the list are not copied back to me. 17:08 thd I might be quarantined by mailman for bad behaviour with HTML attachments which I never use. 17:09 thd Or Mailman may now presume me to merely be another alias for David Cook. 17:09 caroline One of my colleagues said he received two, both about the Feb 2024 email thing 17:10 thd Yes one had the mistaken HTML attachment for which someone would see a completely different email message if viewing through a client which defaults to HTML. 17:10 caroline It's also in the archive, which is usually a good indicator that it was sent https://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2023-November/thread.html 17:12 thd I saw it in the archive but I was not certain that I was not quarantined in some way because I have no copy back and I am set to receive copies back. 17:12 thd Thus I am concerned that Mailman now has me identified as David Cook. 17:13 thd fridolin: are you here? 17:15 fridolin thd: yeps 17:16 thd Did you see my message with implementation details about fixing DKIM signing and re-signing for lists.koha-community.org? 17:17 thd fridolin: I sent details to you and lds offlist. 17:18 fridolin thd: mmm its more a subject for lds, too deep tech for me ;) 17:18 thd I had communicated with lds on IRC about a week ago. 17:19 fridolin ah great 17:19 thd A week ago. 17:20 oleonard cait: Bug 35420 is a tough one 17:20 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35420 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Update page titles and breadcrumbs for Serial alert subscriptions in the OPAC patron account 17:20 tcohen[m] paulderscheid: about $THE_* the idea is that you deal with objects on your code, and $THE_ is the one we are going to return 17:20 tcohen[m] might be worth revisiting at some point 17:20 tcohen[m] we could've picked $*_to_return or smth 17:21 thd At the end of last week I discovered that there may be an actual priority for Feb. about which I wrote again offlist to you and lds with details and onlist to the koha-devel list. list 17:21 paulderscheid[m] Yeah, got that. But I was rather curious concerning the actual string 'THE'. Was that just a random pick? 17:22 paulderscheid[m] tcohen[m]: Yeah, alright. Makes sense. 17:22 paulderscheid[m] Thanks tcohen. 17:22 thd fridolin: I am not certain I have a reliable way to communicate with lds to know whether he has the message and has it mind to do something before Feb. 17:23 tcohen[m] as nugged pointed me on a hackfest: sometimes you think something is obvious because everyone will get it, but that's not always good practice for code maintenance 17:23 paulderscheid[m] Ha, es verdad :D 17:24 thd fridolin: Alternately, maybe lds wants to wait and see whether Gmail gives a false pass for broken dkim because it is still too low priority. 17:26 reiveune bye 17:30 oleonard What determines whether a title can be booked? 17:30 aude_c[m] It's at item level 17:31 aude_c[m] You can make an item "bookable" 17:32 * aude_c[m] uploaded an image: (11KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/ewhCLDnoLwvmQUpBKEJHlFjw/Screenshot%202023-11-28%20at%2017.32.00.png > 17:33 oleonard Oh wow, you have to change it at the item level? That seems very odd to me 17:33 oleonard But thank you aude_c[m] 17:33 aude_c[m] You're welcome! 17:38 tcohen[m] hey #koha, how are you doing with translations? 17:39 cait oleonard: oh! 17:39 cait tcohen[m]: installer and prefs will wait for tomorrow 17:39 cait bye all 18:08 thd fridolin: At least I have resolved the issue of receiving copies of my own message back on koha-devel. Use the bare form koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org and not "koha-devel" <koha-list@koha-community.org> . Probably a Mailman bug but it is not worth my investigating further at this time.