Time Nick Message 22:13 davidnind git grep "Not an authorized value" says it is coming from koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/circ/returns.tt 22:07 caroline It's a new system so I may very well just be lost, heh 22:06 caroline Unless I'm really not looking at the right place, which is entirely possible 22:06 caroline https://snipboard.io/7v0eyP.jpg 22:05 caroline But when I search for "(Not an authorized value)" I can't find it? 22:05 caroline I'm not sure where Weblate gets its "reused" strings. This one tells me "Not an authorized value" has the same translation as "New authorized value" https://snipboard.io/UHiRyl.jpg 22:04 caroline no worries! 22:04 davidnind caroline++ 22:04 davidnind that explains it! thanks caroline (I should have checked Bugzilla first! 8-)) 22:02 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23861 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add authorised value categories description option 22:02 caroline bug 23861 22:01 caroline the descriptions are currently hardcoded directly in the templates for translatability 22:00 caroline there a bug about that 22:00 davidnind Must just be a "feature", or tied up somehow with translations - probably doesn't make sense to rename the actual category. You can't add a description when you add a new authorized value category 22:00 caroline I think it's because the category name is used in the db and in the code. If you change the category name, the values won't have a valid category anymore... 22:00 mtj davidnind: i think its never been an option? 21:57 davidnind Thanks caroline, I was just wondering why, and where the description are added. Looks like it has been that way for a while - I tried a 22.11 demo site, and you couldn't there either. 21:56 caroline if that is what you mean 21:56 caroline No I don't think you can, you can delete a category if there are no values in it, but I don't think you can rename it 21:54 davidnind I mean the category itself (rather than the values in a category) - like AR_CANCELLATION (or any of those listed udenr Administration > Basic parameters > Authorized values) 21:53 caroline hi mtj! :) 21:52 mtj Joubu: i fixed the ktd builds, will send a patch to koha-l10n https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/-/pipelines/1079632356 21:52 mtj hi caroline 🐹 21:51 mtj looks like there is no description for auth_value 'catergoies' 21:50 caroline in 23.05 https://snipboard.io/JknwZ2.jpg 21:50 mtj aah, oops ... categories 21:49 caroline did you mean edit the category of a particular authorized value? 21:49 mtj hi davidnind, you can, via Administration > Authorized values 21:49 caroline davidnind, it didn't used to be possible (I just checked 23.05) 21:47 mtj hi aleisha, glad that i could help :) 🦆 21:37 davidnind Should you be able to edit the authorized value categories? Where do you add the description? 21:25 davidnind aleisha++ 21:25 davidnind mtj++ 20:57 aleisha hey mtj sorry i missed your earlier message , you were on the right track - we didnt have the message broker section in koha-conf! think that's fixed it :) 20:57 aleisha hello 20:15 magnuse Joubu++ 20:15 * magnuse loves weblate 20:13 magnuse kia ora tuxayo 20:13 tuxayo hi magnuse :) 20:09 magnuse \o/ 20:08 tuxayo khall++ 20:08 khall_ looking into it right now 20:07 tuxayo cc khall_ ↑↑↑ 20:02 tuxayo ok, turns out the same cause is affecting all 3 sandboxes servers. 20:00 huginn` tuxayo: The operation succeeded. 20:00 tuxayo @later tell ashimema ptfs-e sandboxes don't work :( 19:59 * kidclamp cries 19:59 huginn` tuxayo: The operation succeeded. 19:59 tuxayo @later tell khall bywater sandboxes don't work :( 19:24 mtj Joubu: ill take a look at the arm KTD stuff now 19:23 mtj hi #koha 18:37 davidnind Joubu++ // for fixing installation of translations in KTD 17:49 reiveune bye 17:27 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] <MatthewBlenkinsop[m]> "Code looks fine, I'll try and..." <- Just tested and all seems fine, have signed it off 👍️ 17:19 oleonard Great, I'll keep an eye out for it 17:19 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] I'll work on something later this week after our company get together 17:19 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] Ok cool, just wanted your thoughts before I start working on a solution 17:18 oleonard I like the checkbox option too 17:17 aude_c[m] (I'm here too. Sorry, maybe should have thought about where I was writing!) 17:16 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] Rather than a popup every time you use one of those operations 17:16 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] Another suggestion from Aude was to have a checkbox on the operation screen along the lines of "Keep patrons selected after this operation" 17:16 oleonard I think your proposal sounds logical 17:15 oleonard Yeah that's true 17:14 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] Or some other combination of running multiple actions on the same selected patrons 17:14 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] But was considering the scenario where a user may want to batch mod a load of patrons, and then add those patrons to a list 17:14 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] That was my first thought 17:13 oleonard MatthewBlenkinsop[m]: The other option I've kicked around in my head would be to clear the selections automatically after each of those operations 17:12 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] If the user selects no, then the history will be wiped clean or they could opt to de-select some patrons 17:12 * oleonard pondering 17:12 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29971 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Remember selections across patron search pages 17:12 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34479 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Clear saved patron search selections after certain actions 17:11 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] patron would be removed from the list by default. Does that sound like an acceptable solution? 17:11 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] oleonard: I'm looking at bug 34479 (a follow up to your enhancement in bug 29971). We have a customer having issues with patrons being carried through into merges that shouldn't be merged - I'm looking at a possible solution of having a modal pop up after each operation (add to list, merge or batch mod) to show which patrons are selected and asking if the user wants to keep these saved for another operation. In a merge, the merged 17:08 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] <Joubu> "Matthew Blenkinsop: could you..." <- Code looks fine, I'll try and test it later 17:00 ashimema Hehe 17:00 ashimema I love being a rubber duck.. especially when all I do is suggest I'll answer without having it actually do any answering 16:57 caroline lol!! 16:57 oleonard So that's what caroline's meetings are like ! 16:55 caroline I really didn't read that like it's about a soft drink... 16:54 oleonard And I answered my own question, so you're off the hook :D 16:51 ashimema Company meeting travel day 16:51 ashimema I'm still in the coke for now.. it's not even 5 yet here 16:51 ashimema Haha, it's all good 16:51 oleonard Enjoy! 16:51 oleonard Nope, not gonna do that ashimema :) 16:50 ashimema But.. fire away 16:50 ashimema I'm in the bar 16:50 ashimema Erm 16:35 oleonard ashimema around? 12:50 Joubu I am missing a ssh key on the download.k-c.org server and I am done with the tarballs. I have asked Chris 12:46 tcohen[m] Joubu: I trust you a lot. Just count on me if you need some help, more eyes or work on a change on the release-tools image 12:42 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35374 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Translations contain config from ERM/data providers 12:42 Joubu MatthewBlenkinsop[m]: could you confirm bug 35374 is not breaking anything for you? 12:41 Joubu 10 lines long* 12:41 Joubu really my script is 10 lines length, and I using the docker image will require more work + changes to release tools 12:40 Joubu well, maybe I could, but I also needed a config file, which I will need to generate depending on the tag pushed 12:40 Joubu The image requires a git repo of Koha src. And... paradoxically I don't have it on the git server 12:39 Annelisterman[m] <cait> "Anneli Österman: it was also..." <- That would have been consistent with the previously used terminology, yes. 12:39 Joubu it's less easy 12:37 tcohen[m] Joubu: can't you just use the release-tools image instead? 12:17 ashimema Confused 12:17 ashimema > ashimema: 'Searches regular' 12:14 ashimema Ooh, sorry it was tcohen 12:12 Joubu tcohen[m]: so using gitea docker image (where alpine is used) 12:12 Joubu tcohen[m]: I am actually not using the docker image for the tarball, just running some bash commands 12:10 Joubu ashimema: "Search regular", what is the context? 12:09 Joubu I could just run apk add everytime the hook is triggered, but it's a bit ugly 12:09 Joubu tcohen[m]: I have installed tar (using apk add), but I don't know how to make it persistent 12:08 Joubu is that ok for you? 12:08 Joubu I have created a key for the git user and I will use it to sign the tarballs 11:55 oleonard You can keep that one in your back pocket until you need it :) 11:54 cait I'll use the poisoning ;) 11:53 cait but that makes a lotof sense, thx! 11:53 cait aaaah 11:51 oleonard It's probably not Yellow Oleander Poisoning or Yersinia Outer Proteins 11:50 oleonard I'm guessing Year Of Publication... but it's a guess 11:49 cait i thin it's an abbreviation to do with ERM 11:49 cait can someone translate YOP for me? 11:46 cait only ever used the simple one 11:46 cait oleonard: sorry to be of no help there :( 11:46 cait Annelisterman[m]: it was also discussed if "batch" could be a synonym 11:38 oleonard What is "Access Token URL" in this context? 11:37 oleonard I could really use help testing API access via OAuth2 client credentials... Anyone around who has done that with Postman or something like that? 11:33 Annelisterman[m] yes :) 11:32 tcohen[m] I like that 11:32 tcohen[m] *oh 11:32 tcohen[m] O 'processing queue' 11:28 Annelisterman[m] If I understand correct what this feature does I would translate that in Finnish as "Käsittelyjono".. perhaps 11:27 huginn` 04Bug 30708: new feature, P3, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to master , Creation of a new 'Preservation' module 11:27 Annelisterman[m] I see, this new feature: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30708 11:26 tcohen[m] Anneli Österman: 'train item' 11:24 ashimema sorry. on a train so my internet is rather intermittent right now 11:24 ashimema what's the context of 'Searches regular' Joubu? 11:24 ashimema huh? 11:19 oleonard Hi #koha 11:10 Annelisterman[m] PreservationNotForLoanDefaultTrainIn? 11:06 Annelisterman[m] tcohen what is the context? Where is it used? 11:04 tcohen[m] How do y'all translate the 'preservation trains' 10:57 Annelisterman[m] <cait> "Manifestation designation of..." <- It's fun to translate when you don't understand the meaning of the original sentence. :D 10:47 tcohen[m] what does that stand for 10:46 tcohen[m] ashimema: 'Searches regular' 10:44 tcohen[m] Or just make it base on debian instead. I picked alpine only because of the size 10:43 tcohen[m] Maybe we can explicitly install another tar 10:43 tcohen[m] Joubu: let me know how I can help you with the release-tools 10:42 tcohen[m] Joubu what are you gonna do with GPG signing? 10:30 cait Manifestation designation of sequence statement (translating... ) 08:20 Joubu so, tar in alpine is busybox tar, which is missing some basic options of tar... great 08:13 ashimema I'm looking forward to his presentation, should be good and add weight to the argument for spending more time upfront doing things properly 08:13 ashimema Finding the right pragmatism line is hard 08:13 ashimema Pedro is doing a presentation at our company meeting the next of days around encouraging better more maintainable submissions 08:12 ashimema Hopefully means we have more time for Devs to work on QA and code improvements 08:12 ashimema I for one am really happy to see some of this stuff being worked on. Automating away infra stuff is great, 08:06 Joubu well, the version is actually hardcoded in the docker compose file.. 08:01 Joubu I am always hitting something I hadn't expected... 08:00 Joubu yes 08:00 ashimema Is this for automating the tar builds 08:00 ashimema Shame 08:00 ashimema I'm travelling most of today so won't be around much btw 08:00 Joubu I wished a pull of the docker image would just "fix it" 07:59 ashimema I see 07:59 Joubu I need a new version of tar on the docker image :-/ 07:59 ashimema Lol 07:59 ashimema Feels quicker 07:59 Joubu well it was up-to-date already :D 07:58 ashimema That was quick 😁 07:57 Joubu done 07:56 ashimema 👍 07:54 Joubu /!\ I am going to upgrade gitea 06:57 reiveune hello 05:36 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 05:36 Joubu @later tell cait translations broken on sandboxes - certainly because of https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/-/issues/405 05:35 Joubu tcohen[m]: perltidy's output depend on the version. We discuss that several time, and some work is still needed, see original bug (last comments). 02:17 mtj hi aleisha, what version and do you have message-broker set to rabbitmq? 00:52 aleisha https://pasteboard.co/xRRsJRHMiTik.png 00:52 aleisha im starting to feel really fed up by background jobs :( we have a whole lot of jobs stuck on New with null/X progress, and the worker-output.log is full of logs like "No job found for id=X" 00:51 aleisha hello 00:02 oleonard-away thanks for the suggestion davidnind, unfortunately that doesn't work for me