Time Nick Message 01:14 tuxayo mtj: yes, right, it was only OS2 and ES8 because there was support before 2 weeks ago. 01:14 tuxayo *no support 06:25 tuxayo @later tell cait hi :) I think I found that blocked you on Bug 35266 , I though I had the same issue but I was testing the staff interface instead of the OPAC ^^" 06:25 huginn` tuxayo: The operation succeeded. 07:12 ashimema Has master really not been green in that long... 07:13 ashimema And wow, bug 31074 got deep 07:13 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31074 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olivier.hubert, Failed QA , Cached plugin code is used in Koha even after changes to plugin (install/upgrade/uninstall) 07:14 ashimema Disappointed to not see any code getting batted about there rather than it all being discussion. I started coding and was close to a proof of concept 07:37 reiveune hello 08:06 ashimema Any knowledgeable ES bods about? 08:07 ashimema When I look at the about page under system information I see '135 record(s) missing on a total of 414892 in index koha_ual_test_biblios.' as a warning often.. 08:07 ashimema I've done a full ES rebuild but I'm always left with some records and this warning 08:07 ashimema any insights on what that means? 08:08 Joubu bad records? 08:08 Joubu did you run search for inconsistencies? 08:15 ashimema running it again now 08:15 ashimema is that the most likely cause 08:15 ashimema mm, a bunch of items missing homebranch 08:15 ashimema and a bunch without itemtypes 08:15 ashimema grr 08:15 * cait waves 10:18 MartinWitjens[m] Good morning! I would like to contribute to the Koha community by making our Dutch version of Koha for Dutch Public Libraries accessible via the Koha Demo webpage. I do not know how to make that possible. Does anyone here can help me with that? Do I need to follow specific rules or does our version needs to meet some specific specs? I would like to know! 10:20 cait Hi! 10:20 cait I thin the best way woudl be a posting to the Koha mailing list explaining about what you want to do 10:20 cait and then someone (maybe me :) ) can add it to the website if noone objects/sees a problem with it 10:21 MartinWitjens[m] Hi cait, thanks for your response. I guess I will join the mailinglist then ;-) 10:21 cait is this a standard community installation with Dutch installed or are there any specifics too? 10:22 cait I usually check the versions once a month to update the table - if you include how you want to be listed etc. that would also help 10:22 MartinWitjens[m] We made quite some adjustments, in Look&Feel, in translating into Dutch and creating specific fields for Dutch public libraries. 10:23 cait if the changes are done by configuration, i don't see a problem 10:23 cait if it's basically a fork with a lot of changed in the code, I'd see more of an issue for the official demo site 10:23 MartinWitjens[m] I think it is. I will check with our developers and come back to you asap! 10:23 cait we expect these to be community koha's (but configuration, sample data, installed langauges etc. vary of course) 10:25 Joubu "translating into Dutch"? locally or using the community workflow? 10:30 Joubu mtj: around today? 10:31 MartinWitjens[m] we pulled it from the comm workflow and we will merge it back when we are completely done 10:34 MartinWitjens[m] <cait> "if the changes are done by..." <- only by config, and some CSS colour changes 10:51 cait if it#s not a standard Koha maybe it would be better to have the link on yoru website 10:51 cait if you want to be listed as a support provider maybe? (if you are not yet) 10:53 Joubu tcohen[m], PedroAmorim[m], MatthewBlenkinsop[m] FYI Koha_22.11_D12 has been cancelled automatically by jenkins because it has been considered too slow (5 times in the last 6 runs!). I extended the timeout delay (90 to 120) 10:55 Joubu tcohen[m], PedroAmorim[m], MatthewBlenkinsop[m] all good, actually its config was different than other build (Timeout as a percentage of recent non-failing builds 10:55 Joubu was 150 instead of 300 11:09 ashimema interesting 11:09 ashimema our test suit feels slow to me these days 11:15 Joubu it depends a lot on the node 11:15 ashimema indeed 11:15 ashimema I was watching the Jenkins queue a lot yesterday and it was overflowing long all day 11:17 Joubu @later tell mtj did you create Koha_23.05_D13? IMO it does not make sense to have it without Koha_Master_D13 11:17 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 11:17 Joubu ashimema: I have pushed to all branches at the same time 11:17 Joubu so it triggered all the jobs 11:18 ashimema I see 11:18 ashimema makes sense 11:21 Joubu and we have 2 nodes offline 11:23 Joubu Helsinki people around? 11:27 oleonard Hi #koha 11:29 Joubu @later tell tcohen[m] bringing back Docker_5 online, if it's still failing we should contact helsinki.fi people (has it been done?) 11:29 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 11:29 Joubu nugged: around? 11:30 Joubu SMS was better than 2023-IM when you never know how to contact people... such a nightmare... 11:51 ashimema +1 11:51 ashimema soo many different bloomin messengers.. and some people refusing to communicate in various forms 11:52 * ashimema dislikes having to have element, slack, telegram, whatsapp and signal.. all just to catch different Koha people 11:52 oleonard I only accept questions on CuriousCat 11:52 ashimema LOL 11:53 ashimema the helsinki chaps are often very chatty.. but they only do telegram.. as much as I've tried to encourage them over here instead 11:56 tcohen[m] I wasn't sure who to contact actually. 11:56 Joubu Jenkins is saying there is 21GB disk available 11:57 Joubu and the job is running correctly so far 11:57 ashimema I imagine andrii 11:57 Joubu [off] I contacted him last week for something else, without success... 11:58 tcohen[m] I just remember some nickname on IRC offered the server, and I forgot who. 11:59 ashimema I can catch him on telegram if you want 😧 12:00 tcohen[m] I mean I never linked that server to nugged 12:00 Joubu it was Joonas 12:00 Joubu IIRC 12:00 ashimema oooh, interesting 12:06 Joubu well, I read twice "I think it was Joonas" in my IRC logs, I guess I should use conditional as well 12:11 Joubu tcohen[m]: looks like Docker_4 is not working correctly with full runs (koha_es exit) 12:14 Joubu tcohen[m]: can you confirm? fix? or should we adjust full run's config to not use Docker_4? (last option will bring more bottleneck..) 12:31 oleonard Where are local cover images stored? 12:33 cait we renamed the table at some point 12:33 cait it is a database table and it's something with images I believe 12:33 cait we rennamed it when the item level covers were implemented 12:35 oleonard Oh I see, cover_images 12:36 oleonard Thanks cait I couldn't remember if they were stored in the file system or not 12:49 * Joubu is preparing a homing pigeon to send to tcohen[m] 12:56 cait I amwondering if you are serious 12:57 cait oleonard-away: i probably was more like the sphinx than being helpul :) 12:57 cait i just couldn't remember the name either 12:59 ashimema soo many meetings 😧 12:59 ashimema next meeting 13:01 Joubu PedroAmorim[m], MatthewBlenkinsop[m] please have a look at cypress tests for usage stats 13:01 Joubu https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/2740/consoleText 13:01 Joubu ERM/UsageReports_spec.ts and ERM/DataProviders_spec.ts are failing 13:04 tcohen[m] Joubu: I need to log out from Matrix and go back to old school IRC 13:04 ashimema ☹️ 13:04 ashimema having issues with matrix tcohen? 13:04 tcohen[m] I don't get any laters 13:04 cait waht did I miss? 13:05 ashimema interesting 13:05 ashimema I get them easily 13:05 tcohen[m] well that's interesting 13:05 ashimema it's just a pm from huggin` 13:05 Joubu no latter, it's 10 lines above 13:05 * tcohen[m] uploaded an image: (58KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/MFLoYhTzMOBzUmzXyoWiiqqA/image.png > 13:06 tcohen[m] I read your lines above, I'm just complaining no laters => communication issues lately 13:07 tcohen[m] can you later me? 13:07 ashimema ah 13:07 Joubu @later tell tcohen hey! 13:07 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 13:07 tcohen[m] ho 13:07 ashimema I bet theres a difference in how matrix identifies someone and how the irc bot does 13:07 Joubu @later tell tcohen[m] hey! 13:07 ashimema @later tell tcohen somthing happened in irc land 13:07 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 13:07 ashimema vs 13:07 huginn` ashimema: The operation succeeded. 13:07 Joubu vs 13:07 tcohen[m] Joubu you missed the [m]? 13:08 Joubu @later tell tcohen[m] not the second time! 13:08 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 13:08 tcohen[m] ho 13:08 ashimema @later tell tcohen something happend in matrix land 13:08 huginn` ashimema: The operation succeeded. 13:08 tcohen[m] p 13:08 ashimema you have lots of autocompletes tcohen 13:08 * ashimema uploaded an image: (27KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/jmSDygVSgLGTyJCofzPDPCFl/image.png > 13:08 tcohen[m] it's probably my fault, but I don't know what I'm doing when on Matrix 13:08 tcohen[m] haha 13:09 Joubu tcohen[m]: what about Docker_4 then? 13:10 tcohen[m] have you retried Docker_4? 13:11 Joubu since when? 13:11 ashimema quick restart.. brb 13:11 tcohen[m] I remember ES died 13:12 Joubu yes, last "full runs" build on Docker_4 failed because koha_es crashed 13:12 Joubu build*s 13:12 Joubu the good news is that Docker_5 run successfully 13:44 ashimema next meeting? 13:44 ashimema wasn't there meant to be a dev meeting around now? 13:50 cait yes 13:50 cait a dev meeting - an hour ago? 13:50 ashimema mmm 13:50 cait and it's in the calendar too :( 14:00 ashimema well.. I have another meeting to go to now 14:00 ashimema chow 14:55 thd tcohen: Was the meeting forgotten? 14:55 cait yes, it seems it was 14:55 thd lds: Are you present? 14:55 cait we noticed an hour later 14:56 tcohen[m] I got up late because of a strong migraine and am trying to catch up with things 14:56 caroline could we maybe add a task for huginn to remind us like 5 or 10 minutes before the meeting? 14:56 thd We may have set the time in the wrong direction for the time change. 14:57 cait I'd love an automatic reminder 14:57 cait maybe the google calendar could be used fo rit somehow? 14:57 thd Google calendar is proprietary spyware :) 14:58 tcohen[m] but they give us awesome search results thanks to that 14:58 caroline I always have to program several reminders for meetings otherwise I get too "deep" in a task and forget 14:58 cait I envy you for that type of concentration/flow :) 15:00 thd Search results have been declining on Google for the past 15 or so years. The spying would be helpful but not when they completely ignore your current query and substitute something that might be vaguely related to a query from last month. 15:03 thd There are vague allusions in the US anti-trust suit to Google invisibly turning genera queries into more remunerative product for purchase queries. 15:04 thd cait: Did you have a secret way for me to communicate with lds or fridolin aside from an ignored email? 15:05 Joubu SMS or homing pigeon 15:06 thd email to SMS gateway? 15:06 Joubu pigeon needs a chip for SSL transport I think 15:07 oleonard the pigeon can only deliver a hash of your message because he ate it 15:07 caroline LOL 15:10 Joubu thd: what's the request? 15:11 thd I have a side channel with lds currently about DKIM signing on the mailing lists. 15:11 emilyrose Hi everyone, I'm installing koha-testing-docker and I need some help. I keep encountering this error when I run 'ktd up': The environment variable SYNC_REPO does not point to a valid Koha git repository. I observed in the code within the 'run.sh' file of ktd that this error occurs because the script is unable to locate /kohadevbox/koha/about.pl. This is what I have in my .bashrc file: 15:12 emilyrose export PROJECTS_DIR=/inlibro/git export SYNC_REPO=$PROJECTS_DIR/koha-tests-dev-emilyrose export KTD_HOME=$PROJECTS_DIR/koha-testing-docker export PATH=$PATH:$KTD_HOME/bin export LOCAL_USER_ID=$(id -u) 15:12 emilyrose “koha-tests-dev-emilyrose” is the name of my Koha git clone repository. When I execute the command echo $SYNC_REPO, I receive the following output: /inlibro/git/koha-tests-dev-emilyrose. When I run ls $SYNC_REPO/about.pl, I get: /inlibro/git/koha-tests-dev-emilyrose/about.pl. I have already attempted to run ktd down, followed by after ktd up. I also tried restarting my PC, but the error persists. 15:20 Joubu emilyrose: ls $SYNC_REPO/about.pl 15:20 Joubu sorry you answered already 15:22 Joubu running on ubuntu/debian, or windows, other? 15:23 Joubu bashrc, so I guess ubuntu/debian, correct? 15:23 emilyrose I'm running on ubuntu 15:23 emilyrose yes 15:24 Joubu in the same terminal, please do: 15:24 Joubu ktd down 15:24 Joubu ktd pull 15:24 Joubu ls $SYNC_REPO 15:24 Joubu ktd up 15:26 emilyrose the error is still there 15:26 Joubu the ls is displaying the full repo content? 15:27 emilyrose yes 15:27 Joubu are you on the origin/master for both koha-testing-docker and koha? 15:27 Joubu branches* 15:28 emilyrose yes 15:28 Joubu did you follow ktd's readme? 15:28 Joubu did you adjust .env? if so, how? 15:30 emilyrose I didn't touch the .env, I only do : cp env/defaults.env .env 15:32 Joubu dpkg -l|grep docker 15:33 Joubu do you see docker-desktop in the list? 15:33 emilyrose yes 15:33 Joubu you should not 15:34 Joubu but I don't remember this is the error we got when ktd was not working with docker-desktop 15:34 Joubu tcohen[m]: do you remember? 15:36 Joubu emilyrose: you could try to remove docker-desktop, and install docker-ce instead 15:36 Joubu and docker-compose if not installed already 15:37 emilyrose docker-ce is already installed, in the list I have : docker-buildx-plugin, docker-ce, docker-ce-cli, docker-ce-rootless-extras, docker-compose-plugin and docker-desktop 15:37 emilyrose I will uninstall docker-destop 15:38 Joubu is /inlibro a mounted volume? 15:38 Joubu mount|grep inlibro 15:39 emilyrose when I enter the command, nothing is returned 15:44 Joubu I am sorry, there is somethign obvious I am not catching 15:46 Joubu echo $LOCAL_USER_ID 15:46 Joubu is this 1000? 15:46 emilyrose no 1001 15:47 Joubu what's the permission of /inlibro and /inlibro/git 15:48 Joubu and /inlibro/git/koha-tests-dev-emilyrose and /inlibro/git/koha-tests-dev-emilyrose/about.pl 15:51 Joubu emilyrose: still here? 15:51 caroline she's having trouble with the irc connexion it seems 15:52 emilyrose yeah I think my message havent been send 15:52 emilyrose inlibro --> https://webchat.oftc.net/?channels=koha 15:53 emilyrose oups sorry 15:53 emilyrose inlibro --> drwxr-xr-x 12 emilyrose emilyrose 4096 15:54 emilyrose inlibro/git --> drwxr-xr-x 16 emilyrose emilyrose 4096 15:55 emilyrose inlibro/git/koha-tests-dev-emilyrose --> drwxr-xr-x 52 emilyrose emilyrose 4096 15:56 emilyrose inlibro/git/koha-tests-dev-emilyrose/about.pl --> -rwxrwxr-x 2 emilyrose emilyrose 29913 15:57 Joubu all good :-/ 15:57 Joubu you will have to wait for tcohen[m] 15:58 emilyrose ok thank you for your help :) 16:02 * KevinFurst[m] uploaded an image: (35KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/idqvyqdLLsvYuDUETXKmedvH/Screenshot%202023-11-15%20at%209.57.45%20AM.png > 16:02 KevinFurst[m] Hi. I have a situation where I'd like to copy all of my values from the purchase price column to the replacement price column. Currently all of my replacement prices are NULL. Can someone give my a SQL statement to run to copy all values from the price column to the replacementcolumn for every single item in the library (no exceptions; overwrite all). 16:02 KevinFurst[m] (or another way to do it that's efficient). 16:03 caroline update items set replacementprice = price; should do the trick, make sure to backup and test beforehand, sql updates cannot be undone 16:04 KevinFurst[m] ok thanks. 16:51 caroline do your libraries have ebooks that are "good for" a number of checkouts? After for example 40 checkouts, you either have to buy it again or it becomes unaccessible. I wonder if that is widespread as a business model for ebooks 16:53 oleonard caroline: I think some publishers set that rule which companies like OverDrive have to follow 16:54 caroline I'm still pondering my breastpump tube situation, and yesterday I had a conversation with an someone from a local ebook platform and I feel like it's the same thing, the item must be weeded (or change status) after X checkouts. For the tubes, it's one checkout and ebooks it's 40 (or whatever else) 16:54 oleonard XD 16:55 oleonard Everyone knows after you read a book 12 times it turns to dust! 16:55 caroline exactly lol! 16:56 caroline I wonder if we could hack the item modification by age tool and add an item modification by checkout option 16:58 caroline it would enable libraries to have control over what happens after those X checkouts 17:20 tcohen[m] emilyrose: can you uninstall docker-desktop and just use the 'docker engine' instructions? 17:21 tcohen[m] https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/ubuntu/ 17:39 emilyrose thank you evryone :) this is working now, the problem was docker-desktop 17:41 davidnind great to hear! 17:42 davidnind tcohen++ 17:42 davidnind Joubu++ 17:42 reiveune bye 17:43 davidnind you will need to add your Bugzilla information and credentials to the KTD .env file 17:44 davidnind my KTD cheat sheet if it is of any use https://gitlab.com/-/snippets/1893788 17:47 tcohen[m] davidnind++ 18:15 emilyrose thank for the cheat sheet 18:28 tcohen[m] We need to make it work with Docker Desktop 18:29 tcohen[m] it shouldn't be hard... 18:29 tcohen[m] I use macOS with it, and it works 18:29 tcohen[m] my feeling is people are not adding the different mounted directories 18:30 tcohen[m] to the allow-list it usually requires 18:35 davidnind when I used it last year in December (setting up a new notebook), it was something to do with permission issues with doing sign offs, but I can't remember now... everything else seemed to work OK 20:10 tcohen[m] nice 20:19 aleisha hello 20:19 tcohen[m] Hi! 20:20 aleisha sorry i havent logged in here for a while... best to email me about rmaint stuff or other things than message here :) 20:23 tcohen[m] nice to see you here aleisha ! 20:28 aleisha :D 20:30 tcohen[m] yeah, you are on the release-team email alias 20:57 aleisha yup! 21:13 KevinFurst[m] I'm not clear on notices/slips. After reading through the documentation. I've looked through the notices/slips templates and also see there's email and print fields. I have rules/boxes ticked for the 1st, 2nd, 3rd in the intranet settings but I don't understand how to trigger the overdue document to be created so that it can be printed... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/jtLKLGicvKhJeLGjrYDsqyVB>) 21:15 caroline Hi KevinFurst[m] you'll need gather_print_notices.pl https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/cron_jobs.html#print-hold-notices 21:16 KevinFurst[m] ok. So I saw those, but where is the output saved to? 21:16 KevinFurst[m] Or where do I define that? 21:17 KevinFurst[m] I have it set in my crontab to run tonight for the first time with those suggested settings, but where will I find the files in the morning? 21:18 caroline in the crontab, you should have the output after the script 21:19 caroline ours are set to go into /public/clientname/intranet/notification 21:19 caroline the path should be the one in koha-conf.xml under <access_dir> 21:20 KevinFurst[m] ahh. so I was right. The path is set to that public files area in the intranet. That makes sense. 21:20 caroline that directory should be writeable by www-data I think 21:20 KevinFurst[m] Is it actually a pdf? Single file or 1 per patron? 21:20 ashimema You can run the script by hand with --help to get the output options btw 21:21 caroline in my experience, it's an html file with all the notices of the day in one file 21:21 KevinFurst[m] ok. I'll give a test run here shortly after another cup of coffee. 21:21 ashimema CSV, ods or html 21:21 caroline but there is some sort of page jump in between each, so when you print, it changes page for each patron 21:21 ashimema Split by branch or all in one.. from memory 21:21 caroline ^ I was going to say, you can split by branch 21:22 KevinFurst[m] ok. I'll hop back on if I get stuck again. Thank you for your help. 21:22 caroline not sure if there are other options 21:24 ashimema You can use --email to alternatively set a staff email address to send them to add an attachment I believe 21:24 ashimema But we also use the access dir options here 21:25 ashimema Me was cheating and raging the script https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/misc/cronjobs/gather_print_notices.pl 21:25 ashimema Not on the computer right now though so not as easy to read on this when screen 21:25 ashimema Small