Time  Nick                 Message
23:24 davidnind            excellent!
23:23 dcook                All good. Jonathan and I have both been looking at this recently so I know what he's trying to do overall I think
23:22 davidnind            dcook++
23:22 davidnind            thanks dcook - I had a play, but don't know what I'm doing without a step-by-step test plan for mere mortals 8-)
23:21 dcook                I'm having to work out a lot on the go so maybe I'll just test it heh. I'm adding notes though
23:10 dcook                The unit test is definitely way better now
23:10 dcook                But maybe I'm wrong. Hmm weird.
23:10 dcook                I notice sometimes there's a bit of a gap between "Pushed to master" and really pushed to master...
23:09 dcook                I think I did do a git fetch before testing this
23:09 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35303 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Staff interface header - patron search autocomplete no longer works (Uncaught TypeError: search_fields.forEach is not a function)
23:09 davidnind            that is a separate bug - you probably need to do a git pull - bug 35303 (if it is the one where autocomplete doesn;t complete)
23:07 dcook                Yeah looks like that's just broken in master. yikes...
23:06 dcook                Hmmm the patron search autocomplete seems broken but that might be unrelated...
23:03 davidnind            sure - thanks!
22:56 dcook                I'll take a look in a second anyway. Maybe we both look at it together
22:55 dcook                initComplete just has to do with the technical implementation. Don't think you need to worry about that part.
22:54 davidnind            I have - not sure what initComplete means - go to the area (for example, patrons) and then try the filters/search in the table of results?
22:52 dcook                Have you see Comment 12?
22:52 davidnind            If you can tell me how to test - I'll sign off, then you could do the QA
22:51 dcook                Figured maybe no point doubling up
22:51 dcook                I was planning to look at it right now is all
22:51 davidnind            I hadn't got back to it - the notes from Jonathan didn't make much more sense to me - I'll have a go now, then I'll have lunch
22:49 dcook                Like riding a bike... heh
22:49 davidnind            the same with most things, I think (except riding a bike - I got an ebike last year, and had no trouble - last time a rode a bike was at high school, which was a loooon time ago...)
22:49 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35284 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , No more delay between 2 DT requests
22:49 dcook                davidnind: Are you currently looking at bug 35284?
22:46 dcook                My son was speaking some French this morning, and it reminded me of how much I've forgotten after a decade plus of disuse...
22:45 dcook                Feels easy when it's a thing a person does day in and day out
22:45 dcook                All part of the job
22:45 dcook                hehe
22:45 davidnind            kudos to all the system administrators out there that take care of "all the things"!
22:45 dcook                Instructions are funny. For people who've done it a million times the instructions probably seem super clear, but for someone who rarely does it or has never done it... probably not so much
22:44 dcook                KTD was one of the best things ever done for Koha I thikn
22:43 davidnind            KTD for testing/development makes it very easy!
22:43 davidnind            (I muddled through, sometimes I think I know what I'm doing)
22:42 davidnind            think the installation instructions on the Wiki need some work - total newbies to system admin/linux would be totally lost I think....
22:41 davidnind            with Ubuntu 22.04 LTS (using Multipass), installing MySQL server didn't prompt for any credit card details
22:40 davidnind            it's a while since I've done any system admin - got enough to get me going, will come back this evening
22:38 dcook                Depending on your goal again of course
22:38 dcook                Otherwise you'll have to tear down and re-do it
22:38 dcook                The one gotcha being the Docker run/launch config for things like ports. You'll want to make sure you have it forwarding the ports you want at launch time
22:37 dcook                Way faster than setting up a Debian VM as well
22:37 dcook                That would do it
22:36 davidnind            just looking there now... basically want to have a minimal debian server, then install Koha using packages
22:35 dcook                https://hub.docker.com/_/debian
22:35 dcook                Depends on what your goal is
22:35 davidnind            thanks! not sure how to use docker to get a minimal debian server - my searching skills aren't working we ll today... assume I just need to find a suitable image and start it
22:33 dcook                It looks like Multipass uses KVM for Ubuntu
22:32 dcook                If I needed a VM... I'd probably use whatever is available and most up-to-date
22:31 dcook                But at home on my Ubuntu desktop I just use Docker
22:31 dcook                (And in that case I'm using WSL2 which uses the native Windows virtualization under the hood)
22:31 dcook                I don't even bother with virtual machines anymore for desktops. I just use Docker for everything hehe.
22:30 davidnind            dcook: do you know what the go to virtual machine environment on a local desktop is these days - VirtualBox still? Something else? (I use an Ubuntu desktop)
22:28 davidnind            I hadn't either - it's been a long time since I've set up a server (pay the experts!)
22:21 dcook                I'd never heard of Multipass. That's neat.
22:17 dcook                Hello lovely humans
22:17 dcook                Ooh humans still around
21:51 cait                 davidnind++
21:50 davidnind            Will then try Debian and Ubuntu using VirtualBox - not sure what the best virtual environment these days is (I use an Ubuntu desktop)
21:50 davidnind            I'm trying a few installations at the moment using Ubuntu/Canonical's Multipass feature (https://ubuntu.com/download/server)
21:38 cait                 yep
21:29 * ashimema           just read back
21:29 ashimema             That's worrying to hear
20:10 davidnind            I think it comes own to what virtual machine software is being used (and what the host system is - Windows, Mac, Linux), and where the server images came from...
20:00 cait                 yes, I don#t see anything strange either
20:00 davidnind            Choice of database (MySQL or MariaDB) should not make a difference
19:56 davidnind            There is nothing I can see that is wrong with the instructions, just very abbreviated
19:43 davidnind            Apologies for all the questions! 8-)
19:43 davidnind            What virtual machine software are you using? And where did you download your Ubuntu server image from? (assuming Option 1 - https://ubuntu.com/download/server)
19:40 davidnind            That is really, really weird.
19:40 cait                 if ou see that again, a screenshot would be great
19:31 JacquesKouefati[m]   Local
19:30 davidnind            Is the virtual machine on your computer, or one provided by a hosting company?
19:30 JacquesKouefati[m]   No harm done
19:29 JacquesKouefati[m]   On an empty, virtual machine
19:29 davidnind            Where did you run the commands that prompted for a credit card? A local test machine, or on a machine provided by a hosting company?
19:26 JacquesKouefati[m]   Thanks for your time. I really appreciate both your efforts and the community's.
19:22 JacquesKouefati[m]   Been there, done that, but still couldn't figure it out. Now I'm working with a partner who can speak English, that was my main limitation ATM.
19:20 oleonard             JacquesKouefati[m]: Please use official documentation, like this which is linked to from the Koha download page: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian
19:17 JacquesKouefati[m]   As it is FLOSS, this immediately caught my attention.
19:16 JacquesKouefati[m]   This is the tutorial I followed.
19:16 * JacquesKouefati[m] posted a file: (59KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/RefhIwVITwnMAkUaXGVpjiAo/instalacion_koha_23_05.pdf >
19:12 JacquesKouefati[m]   Let me see, oleonard
19:11 oleonard             JacquesKouefati[m]: Were you following a specific set of instructions to install?
19:11 JacquesKouefati[m]   That's why I ask.
19:11 cait                 that sounds all very odd - Koha doesn't contain anything that would aks you for credit card information
19:10 JacquesKouefati[m]   https://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc
19:10 JacquesKouefati[m]   The repo is the following:
19:09 JacquesKouefati[m]   I got the copy from koha-community.org
19:09 oleonard             JacquesKouefati[m]: Where did you get your copy of Koha?
19:08 oleonard             JacquesKouefati[m]: Completely wrong, you should never see that
19:08 cait                 that does sound very wrong
19:08 JacquesKouefati[m]   When creating db library, within the CLI, I was asked for a credit card.
19:08 cait                 btw. the recommended way for installing Koha on Ubuntu would be to use the debian packages
19:08 cait                 and which repo? (just to make sure)
19:07 cait                 do you remember what it asked/how it looked like?
19:07 JacquesKouefati[m]   I used the official repo. Fresh install on Ubuntu VM.
19:07 cait                 yes, I'd like to know too :)
19:06 oleonard             JacquesKouefati[m]: How were you installing Koha?
19:06 cait                 can you give a bit more information about that?
19:06 JacquesKouefati[m]   I asked because I was prompted with a subscription somewhere in the install process.
19:06 cait                 if you are working with a support provider, levels of support might vary depending on what you use/how much support you need etc
19:05 JacquesKouefati[m]   That's great
19:05 cait                 there are no features that are locked or require additional fees
19:05 huginn`              JacquesKouefati[m]: I've exhausted my database of quotes
19:05 JacquesKouefati[m]   @cait yes, I mean for installing and using Koha daily.
19:05 cait                 Koha is open source software
19:04 JacquesKouefati[m]   So it is possible to manage my own library without limitations, right?
19:04 cait                 did you mean the serial subscriptions or a model for running/using Koha in general?
19:03 emlam                I can't tell you much about how it works because we don't use it, but I can confirm it isn't mandatory!
19:03 emlam                The subscription module is used for managing subscriptions to newspapers, magazines, journals, etc, but you don't need to use it for anything if you don't have subscriptions that you want to manage through Koha
18:59 JacquesKouefati[m]   Is it possible to access all functions without it?
18:59 JacquesKouefati[m]   Hello, I'd like to know more about the suscription model.
17:49 Joubu                how is it going?
17:49 Joubu                thanks!
17:44 mason[m]             Hi Joubu, yes... I'll add patches for all branches
17:41 tuxayo               lukeg++ thanks for the fix :D
16:03 reiveune             bye
15:56 emlam                lukeg working on it! I copied the CSS from the patch into our OPACUserCSS so that the folks who reproduced the issue can confirm it solves the problem :)
15:51 caroline             seems like an easy fix... I just removed the <<<, ===, and >>> lines...
15:48 oleonard             bother.
15:47 caroline             oops, patch doesn't seem to apply... /
15:44 oleonard             Thanks!
15:44 caroline             iirc, it was ok, I had just put the info from the other bug as a comment to have it there as well, but I'll check to mke sure
15:43 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32890 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Add DataTables to curbside pickups
15:43 oleonard             I'm hoping you might have a chance to look at Bug 32890 again sometime. I don't think I'm seeing what you're seeing but I may not understand the problem.
15:42 caroline             yes I'm here! not sure for how long
15:41 oleonard             Did I see caroline arrive?
15:39 lukeg                ohh! you should QA that one too emlam ;)
15:37 emlam                lukeg++ oleonard++ for pouncing on 34413 too
15:35 emlam                haha
15:34 lukeg                emlam++
15:33 lukeg                I'd like to make sure that is in 23.11 before release
15:33 huginn`              04Bug 35194: major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Javascript error: Uncaught TypeError: $(...).sortable is not a function
15:33 lukeg                emlam: are you passing QA here? https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35194
14:48 Joubu                mtj: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-l10n/-/merge_requests/1/diffs - don't we want it on the different branches?
14:36 davidnind            Joubu++
14:12 oleonard             I was just enjoying the hunt :)
14:12 oleonard             Oh okay no problem
14:12 Joubu                Sorry oleonard, we overlapped on 35303
13:53 cait                 thx davidnind :)
13:53 davidnind            sends virtual cookies
13:50 cait                 this week is a bit difficult overall...
13:46 davidnind            doesn't solve the problem with the patron autocomplete (Uncaught TypeError: search_fields.forEach is not a function)
13:42 cait                 work or relate?
13:40 davidnind            cait: unfortunately, it doesn't
13:39 cait                 tcohen: are you still around?
13:36 cait                 I haven't checked closely - hope it's not a false lead
13:34 davidnind            thanks cait - I'll test that and see if that solves it...
13:33 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35284 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , No more delay between 2 DT requests
13:33 cait                 bug 35284 maybe
13:32 cait                 I think maybe Joubu was working on something related tot hat
13:28 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35303 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Staff interface header - patron search autocomplete no longer works (Uncaught TypeError: search_fields.forEach is not a function)
13:28 davidnz              autocomplete for patron search not working in the staff interface 8-( (since yesterday)have created Bug 35303
13:26 tcohen[m]            they need to be rebased or smth
13:24 oleonard             tcohen: Thanks for catching my error in the db update. I noticed that issue late yesterday and was trying to confirm
12:35 cait                 mtj++
12:29 mtj                  im off to bed 😴🍕
12:17 mtj                  its build from master (23.06.00-73)
12:16 mtj                  Joubu: ive added a koha-common (with koha-l10n dep) there ^
12:16 mtj                  sudo apt install koha-common
12:15 mtj                  echo 'deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha-staging exp main' | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list
12:03 mtj                  hi Joubu, about for koha-i10n chat?
11:08 MarkHofstetter       the merge request to kitchen sink should imho be after the push otherwise it simply won't work
11:06 MarkHofstetter       I hope it's clear and testable - and my ie our customers intentions are clear
11:05 huginn`              04Bug 35288: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, Needs Signoff , ApplyFrameworkDefaults add plugin to add more fine grained defaults handling
11:05 MarkHofstetter       https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35288
10:06 cait                 but merge request after or before push? what's the best sequence there?
09:54 ashimema             a merge requets on kitchensink would be perfect.. we really must better advertise that plugin to devs in the wider community
09:47 cait                 if you open the PDF with a text editor - is there an error printed inside? sometimes it does
09:47 cait                 I am not sure then what's going on
09:38 NikolayGospodinov[m] only in the name
09:38 NikolayGospodinov[m] no hyphen in the barcode
09:37 cait                 are you using the hyphen in the barcode as well? (some barcodes might not be able thandle -)
09:37 cait                 is the hyphen a normal hyphen? (no special char?)
09:37 cait                 NikolayGospodinov[m]: in theory that shoudl not be a problem
09:37 cait                 hm you could laso probably do a pull/merge_requet maybe for the kitchensink (or do that later?) - ashimema?
09:37 MarkHofstetter       thx
09:36 cait                 MarkHofstetter: i think you coudl add a link to one or attach the kpz if you want to make it easier for testing
09:36 cait                 I think i figured it out: table misc_files
09:35 NikolayGospodinov[m] Hello Koha. I have a problem. When I try to  print a card for a reader who has a hyphen in the name. I can't open the generated pdf and Koha crashes. Has anyone encountered this problem?
09:35 huginn`              04Bug 35288: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, NEW , ApplyFrameworkDefaults add plugin to add more fine grained defaults handling
09:35 MarkHofstetter       I want to add and new plugin hook (https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35288) where and how (and shall I?) provide a proof of concept plugin?
09:33 cait                 AcqEnableFiles
09:32 cait                 does someone know where the invoice document uploads are stored?
09:30 cait                 I am waiting for out IT to get back to me about my linux machine... so I am "out of order" right now for anything that requires more than a sandbox
09:25 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] \o
09:24 ashimema             i shall try to take a look before I disappear for a few hours around 11 this morning.
09:23 ashimema             yup
09:23 cait                 see QA mail this morning (catching you all around and well ;) )
09:23 PedroAmorim[m]       o/
09:23 MarkHofstetter       good morning
09:22 ashimema             morning
09:22 * cait               waves
08:27 reiveune             hello
08:24 thibaud_g            hello all
08:21 Joubu                thibaud_g: Salut
08:18 magnuse              \o/
06:58 NikolayGospodinov[m] Hello Koha. I have a problem. When I try to  print a card for a reader who has a hyphen in the name. I can't open the generated pdf and Koha crashes. Has anyone encountered this problem?