Time  Nick                 Message
21:44 cait                 rangi++
16:40 oleonard             caroline++
16:31 caroline             it would allow to have more than one restricted page too
16:31 oleonard             That would be cool
16:30 caroline             I guess it could be moved to pages with a flag "logged in users only" or something like that, now that we have pages
16:30 caroline             yes
16:29 oleonard             So it's just a single page which you have to customize yourself and can be used to provide links to a logged-in user.
16:27 caroline             Not specifically about your question, but this is how to add resources to the restricted page and add the restricted page link somewhere... https://inlibro.com/knowledge-base/ajouter-une-ressource-numerique/ I notice it must be updated... ugh, it never ends!
16:26 caroline             oleonard, I think that is a page that is accessible only when you are logged in. It's not accessible by default, users have to add the link somewhere
16:05 oleonard             Under what circumstances is opac-restrictedpage.pl shown to the OPAC user?
15:40 paulderscheid[m]     Especially the tests 😜
15:39 ashimema             🙂
15:39 paulderscheid[m]     Currently working on an api for a 3rd party integration and I just have to say: feels great to stand on the shoulders of giants :D So much work already done! community++
15:35 Shane-NP[m]          No one saw me using out dated documentation....no one
15:34 Shane-NP[m]          crawls under a rock
15:34 Shane-NP[m]          Well that explains it
15:33 Shane-NP[m]          https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages#Configuring_Apache if anyone is wondering, it says beyond scope...why I ask
15:32 Shane-NP[m]          However, unless I missed it, I see nothing about the 000-default.conf, or is that a none-issue with a domain setup? I know I removed it from 18 as well, as it is not in sites-enabled on that old server.
15:31 Shane-NP[m]          hmm...should I modify the document to have a note to remove the symlink to 000-default.conf in sites-enabled? The Appendix covers the ports changes...kinda...saying 8080 and 8081...while I left OPAC alone and changed Intra to 8080
15:17 reiveune             bye
15:12 Shane-NP[m]          hmm...I didn't setup a domain (since 18 is running and lives on the domain), when I use the IP I get apache default page, any URL trick I can do or should I just remove Apache default site from sites-enabled
15:07 Shane-NP[m]          Guessing I should keep the instance names the same
15:03 Shane-NP[m]          mmmm...native SSH in windows...how I will not miss you putty...but you are a great tool I will forever keep around
14:53 Shane-NP[m]          cait: so ignore the drop/create/quit then how do I use the import carrot command, it will create it then right? IE if I do NEWDB < OLD_DB.sql NEWDB will be created as it imports?
14:48 cait                 ah - no problem, just checking in...  and yes, finish installation and then do the migrate - not the line about dropping the db the new instance will have created. it has the new structure, so you need it gone before loading your old one.
14:43 Shane-NP[m]          Sorry I have been on a support chat about a Clever integration and wanting our SIS to do a mid-day sync to fix student emails I changed...I haven't even continued with Koha
14:39 cait                 Shane-NP[m]: doing ok?
14:28 aw-bib[m]            thx :)
14:28 cait                 oleonard: oh good point! I think I saw he was giving a presentation
14:28 cait                 there coudl be statistics/action_log entries - but nothing will explode if those are still there
14:27 oleonard             cait: Is he at Koha-US conference?
14:27 cait                 aw-bib[m]: no I think you are ok with those
14:27 cait                 hm no kidclamp?
14:27 aw-bib[m]            cait: btw cleaning the issues/old_issues is effectively dropping all loan events, right? or do I have to be careful with some other tables that are connected?
14:27 cait                 oleonard++ Joubu++
14:26 Joubu                Great, thanks a lot! Your feedback has been very helpful.
14:25 oleonard             Joubu: I was going to take one more look to see if I could think of anything else I missed testing, and I can do that today
14:24 cait                 with the API there might be more options
14:24 huginn               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33568 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Use the REST API to display items on the biblio detail view
14:24 Joubu                oleonard: do you think you are ready to add your signoff to bug 33568?
14:24 cait                 I am not sure what most people do, we usually migrate only the patrons with the koha tools, the rest is scripts loading the data into the DB
14:19 aw-bib[m]            I was just wondering if there some default path as it seems to me like a pretty common question to migrate this stuff. and the koc-path looked a bit like what I did when I migrated aleph to our current system. (just that aleph had some amnesia and lost "a few" transactions in it's history.)
14:13 cait                 but yes
14:12 cait                 I was not feeling like it
14:12 cait                 that sounds lke I made sense :D
14:11 aw-bib[m]            ok, I'll check the koc, and if I don't end up with something working I'll dive into isusses and old_issues. and I understand that the id in issues gets transfered to old_issues so I'll have to make sure they don't clash.
14:09 cait                 .koc might work for your purpose, you could give it a try with a simple file and see the outcome
14:09 cait                 but I ususally only spec the migrations, I don't have to write the scripts heh
14:08 cait                 i believe that's probably the 'hardest' bit
14:08 cait                 you can simply move the PK counter with a SQL statement - so migrate the old ones, set the cunter in issues to the max(issue_id) from old_issues
14:08 cait                 so a key existing in issues, should not exist in old_issues
14:08 cait                 when an issue is returned it's moved from issues to old_issues
14:08 cait                 the only thing to look out for is that your PK don't run into each other
14:07 Shane-NP[m]          Just so I don't screw myself, finish the full install and then do the migrate article correct? So I am using: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian, I am just done the MariaDB
14:07 cait                 old_issues is like issues - it's not a bad table
14:07 aw-bib[m]            for the sql path: do you have some pointer where I could start out?
14:07 cait                 i think it will, but it might end u being a 'today's' transaction
14:07 aw-bib[m]            I can have a look at that.
14:07 aw-bib[m]            ah, so you think if I replay a checkin from 2 years ago it will not accept it.
14:06 cait                 but easy to test
14:06 cait                 you coudl try it, I might be wrong
14:06 cait                 so you can't backdate
14:06 cait                 when Koha proceses the files, it will do the checkouts when you process (I think)
14:06 cait                 like the checkout/checkin dastes
14:05 aw-bib[m]            tdates being what?
14:05 Shane-NP[m]          Short story long, I tried to move to another state...failed, and moved back, and then the position opened back up, and now I know why!
14:05 cait                 so if you need for stats... I'd try and add entries to old_issues and statistics using SQL instead
14:04 aw-bib[m]            cait:  right that's why I thought I could missuse it to replay the co/ci-events.
14:04 cait                 you can't use them for historic so well (you'd need to issue and return...) and you can't set the tdates things happen
14:04 cait                 aw-bib[m]: koc is for offline circulation
14:04 Shane-NP[m]          not sure if that is a choice on 23...just being funny...because I have about 100 broken / unfinish things left in the wake of the person I hired to replace me...who was let go...and they asked for me to comes back
14:04 cait                 you can still look at Elastic later when you are feeling like it
14:03 cait                 Shane-NP[m]: I'd say so
14:03 aw-bib[m]            I am currently trying to find a way to migrate movement data (checkout/checkin so the stats are right in the end). now I stumbled upon koc-files that look promising to accomplish that. am I here on the right track?
14:02 Shane-NP[m]          18 is probably using Zebra
14:02 cait                 being a little dramatic? ;)
14:02 Shane-NP[m]          terminal is just blinking at me...judging me...making me question my life choices...wanting to me to make a decision...but I am trapped in an infinite time loop of wanting someone else to do it all for me
14:01 cait                 a normal intallation will usually give you Zebra
14:01 cait                 I think you need to install Elasticsearch separately if you want to tuse it, because it could also live on another server/be a cluster somewhere else
14:01 Shane-NP[m]          uhh....I haven't built it all the way yet, I just installed MariaDB on the new Ubuntu VM
14:00 cait                 system preference SearchEngine can tell oyu
14:00 cait                 if you don't know it's probably zebra and correct :D
14:00 cait                 are you using zebra or elastic?
14:00 Shane-NP[m]          I know Library will be my instance name
14:00 Shane-NP[m]          This still valid?: sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f library
13:58 cait                 I hope :) know... is hard
13:57 caroline             you know I don't mean it in a negative way
13:57 caroline             youu always have the knowledge people need
13:57 caroline             nah!
13:56 cait                 caroline: that makes me feel like a terrible know-it-all
13:56 caroline             cait++ #once again proves she has all the answers ;)
13:55 cait                 if you didn't change indexing etc. it should have all you need
13:55 Shane-NP[m]          Yeah that sounds perfect if the DB hold most of the settings
13:55 cait                 and the koha ones look correct to me
13:55 cait                 the mysql commands don't really change that much
13:54 Shane-NP[m]          Thanks..I was reading that but cringed at the dat
13:54 cait                 Shane-NP[m]: this is old, but accurate: http://kohageek.blogspot.com/2015/08/move-old-koha-database-to-new.html
13:53 cait                 if you really want to export your records, I'd use the tools in Koha to get them out in MARC with the items and than reimport
13:53 cait                 if you try to migrate with SQL you'll run into problems more likely
13:53 cait                 so you can have a brand new server and all your data
13:52 cait                 that#s all you need to do realyl and Koha takes care of the rest
13:52 cait                 don't want to interrupt... but maybe it woudl be really easier to install fresh, but add your existing database
13:40 Shane-NP[m]          omg was just typing in the Windows search bar...my brain is toast. I almost typed 18.05.11, since you asked the version and it has both #s
13:37 Shane-NP[m]          Well that was little dyslexia 18.11.05
13:36 caroline             Shane-NP[m], do you have 18.05 or 18.11? the circulation_rules table was introduced in 18.11 it seems
13:35 aw-bib[m]            Shane-NP: I think no config files all in the database, but you can create yml-files that define those and load it from there.
13:34 caroline             I know the circulation rules table changed drastically, I don't remember which version
13:33 Shane-NP[m]          are the library rules in a conf file I can import so I am not recreating all the patron types, check out rules, or am I just better off trying a fill mygration
13:30 Shane-NP[m]          I just want to try and export the all the IT asset records I created. I can run a few lines of SQL....wish I had my skills back when I was an aspiring web-developer I can spit out basic SQL in my sleep with left, inner, outter joins...oh 20 years...ago..so far away
13:28 Shane-NP[m]          I think I want to start fresh, and then I can mirror the other library on our server
13:27 caroline             But if you know your way around databases, updatedatabase is a good option I think
13:27 caroline             yeah, if you think it's too much, you can definitely create a new instance and simply migrate all the data into it. That's probably what I would do because as previously mentioned i am not a developer lol
13:27 Shane-NP[m]          All the google results are from '15-18 so if there is a current guide moving server A to B that would be awesome.
13:25 caroline             rofl
13:25 Shane-NP[m]          IT person is a stretch these day...more road kill being run over by semi-trucks :P
13:25 oleonard             Now we know why you don't call yourself a developer ;)
13:24 caroline             lol!! I'm not that bad! XD
13:24 oleonard             caroline: At first I thought you asked "Are you a dev or a person?" XD
13:24 caroline             are you a dev or an it person?
13:23 caroline             I mean, you could do a data migration as if you were moving from another product, but I'm pretty sure updatedatabase will take care of most things
13:23 Shane-NP[m]          Plus 4 jobs in between my brain is worse then scrambled eggs haha
13:22 Shane-NP[m]          been what 5 years since I touch this...18 to 23 :P I don't even remember what the instances are :) let alone what/how to move this stuff...im pulling a Dory here...just keep swimming...just keep swimming
13:21 caroline             doesn't the updatedatabase script usually take care of schema schanges?
13:20 Shane-NP[m]          Hmm...thinking the DB schema has likely changes a lot wonder if I can just migrate the materials I have an forget the history...just keep items records?
13:05 paulderscheid[m]     Thanks oleonard, I havn't.
12:50 Shane-NP[m]          Guessing I need /koha/koha-sites.conf from old server and the backup folder contents?
12:48 Shane-NP[m]          I am doing a fresh install of 23, just got to the MariaDB section
12:47 huginn               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22436 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , add move or copy control field from or to subfield in MARC modification templates
12:47 cait                 bug 22436 ?
12:47 Shane-NP[m]          Can I backup an 18 server and move to 23?
12:46 cait                 like a filed one
12:46 cait                 I thin it#s a standing bug
12:37 oleonard             Damned if I do and damned if I don't: https://snipboard.io/wzPHeu.jpg
12:36 tcohen[m]            do you need to use @ for the subfield?
12:33 oleonard             Why can't we copy the contents of a control field to a non-control field in a MARC modification template?
12:32 tcohen[m]            thanks, if I find somethign I'll post somewhere
12:31 Joubu                no idea right now, but drop me a note and I will have a look later
12:30 tcohen[m]            I was having fun with cypress until I hit this heh
12:28 tcohen[m]            the 3
12:28 Joubu                do you want the 3 entries or just one?
12:28 tcohen[m]            patron
12:28 tcohen[m]            I noticed I was missing the x-koha-embed
12:28 Joubu                sorry, I thought it was something else
12:28 tcohen[m]            indeed
12:28 Joubu                ok, so the 2 queries are not the same
12:27 tcohen[m]            not returned by the API
12:27 tcohen[m]            and now the record sources without a patron linked are
12:27 tcohen[m]            and tried deleting the linked patron
12:27 tcohen[m]            No, I'm trying to list record sources
12:26 Joubu                you are adding a filtering, right?
12:26 tcohen[m]            ?
12:26 Joubu                you need a dedicated route
12:26 Joubu                we talked about that already
12:24 tcohen[m]            and not a Vue one
12:24 tcohen[m]            this is a bigger problem
12:23 tcohen[m]            if I ask to embed the (non existent patrons) then it returns only one row
12:22 tcohen[m]            oh
12:21 ashimema             does it now come from there
12:21 ashimema             exactly
12:21 ashimema             it's bugged me a few times too.. places where the whole point of the table is to never ever show certain things.. yet we still highlight it's a filtered set
12:21 tcohen[m]            yes, the X-Total-Count
12:20 ashimema             or something like that
12:20 ashimema             as in, the response header returns a full count of all rows of the table.. no matter what?
12:20 ashimema             is it not in the headers
12:20 ashimema             haha
12:20 tcohen[m]            haha
12:20 tcohen[m]            I'm new to Vue, and this got my nerves high
12:19 * tcohen[m]          uploaded an image: (252KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/mwDFDhPMZXOhvPZmmNxvvQGV/image.png >
12:19 tcohen[m]            The exact same request in postman returns the 3 rows
12:19 tcohen[m]            'filtered from 3 total entries'
12:19 * tcohen[m]          uploaded an image: (41KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/nayCVOMoZGYAITdhbjMXVKAR/image.png >
12:18 tcohen[m]            Joubu, Pedro Amorim is there a trick on hte Kohatable component preventing display of some rows
12:11 oleonard             That sounds similar
12:11 huginn               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8628 new feature, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Failed QA , Add digital signs to the OPAC
12:11 oleonard             paulderscheid[m]: Have you seen Bug 8628?
12:09 huginn               Joubu: The operation succeeded.
12:09 Joubu                @later tell PedroAmorim[m] please have a look at 34842
11:51 Joubu                all the awesome stuffs are on the roadmap ;)
11:47 ashimema             I should look at that again
11:47 huginn               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31383 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Additional contents: We need a parent and child table
11:47 * ashimema           had forgotten about bug 31383
11:44 paulderscheid[m]     Thanks for the heads up joubu, wasn't going to jump on it immediately anyway.
11:39 huginn               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31383 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Additional contents: We need a parent and child table
11:39 Joubu                paulderscheid[m]: I don't, but keep in mind that there is a redesign of the DB structure going on: bug 31383
11:35 tcohen[m]            hola #koha o/
11:28 paulderscheid[m]     News meaning Koha-News
11:28 paulderscheid[m]     Anyone ever worked on an endpoint for news?
11:28 paulderscheid[m]     Just in: Interesting customer request: Accessing news via URL (which could be realised via the API) for "Poster" Screens in the Lobby.
11:04 oleonard             Which is it?? https://snipboard.io/wzPHeu.jpg
10:46 ashimema             lol
10:45 oleonard             [off] MarcEdit is powerful and indispensable but the interface is so so so terrible
10:32 magnuse              kia ora oleonard
10:19 oleonard             Hi all
09:47 cait                 but I would not make it a pref, maybe a setting on the circulation conditions somehow
09:46 cait                 I feel like it is possible... but I had not the right idea yet maybe?
09:43 krimsonkharne[m]     cait++
09:43 krimsonkharne[m]     we'll talk more about it LMSCloud-internally.. might be worth thinking about a new syspref "Allow / Disallow checkouts if the item homebranch is different from the logged in branch"
09:42 krimsonkharne[m]     yeah
09:38 cait                 using itemtypes is probably the most transparent option too
09:38 cait                 circulation conditions can be hard
09:38 cait                 hm or not
09:37 cait                 I thin it would probably work without that if you had CircControl to: library the patron is from
09:36 cait                 depending on how you select your rules
09:36 cait                 branch specific patron categories would probabl work too
09:33 krimsonkharne[m]     yeah, we solved it with different, "homebranch-specific" item types in the end
09:28 cait                 or by using differnt itemtypes, but that's probably a last resort
09:28 cait                 maybe with CircControl... and circulation conditions
09:27 cait                 not a pref
08:47 krimsonkharne[m]     for holds, it's clear.. but for checkouts I'm not sure
08:47 krimsonkharne[m]     anybody know if there's a syspref for "only allow checkouts from the homebranch of the item"?
08:47 krimsonkharne[m]     morning #koha
08:12 ashimema             looks like jajm took it over
08:10 ashimema             having said that.. as the send stuff pro-actively updates to address anyway I think.. it may well not have worked that way for a while anyway
08:10 ashimema             I kinda liked that they set at the last minute so a retry of sending may pick up new addresses and things
08:09 ashimema             I'm also not entirely sure about the move from setting addresses at the last minute to always setting them at enqueue
08:09 ashimema             it probably massively predates the move to Email::Stuffer and friends
08:07 ashimema             pass
07:53 Joubu                ashimema: I really cannot remember. Didn't we have a problem in previous versions with that? Was it possible to have several email addresses in the to/cc fields?
07:49 Joubu                it was working perfectly and was used in production by the customer
07:49 ashimema             Yup
07:48 Joubu                this should have been pushed years ago, really
07:48 ashimema             OK.. I'll try to dig out whoever was rebasing then
07:48 ashimema             Indeed
07:48 ashimema             Lol
07:48 Joubu                written 9 years ago...
07:48 Joubu                I am no longer involved in this one ;)
07:48 ashimema             Maybe it wasn't yours
07:47 Joubu                Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:15:36 +0200
07:47 Joubu                From: Jonathan Druart <jonathan.druart@biblibre.com>
07:47 ashimema             Yes
07:47 ashimema             Bug 12802
07:47 huginn               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12802 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Patch doesn't apply , Send notices using several email addresses
07:47 Joubu                bug 12802?
07:47 ashimema             The guarantee copy but takes that approach instead. We send an array of addresses to the cc header and email::sender handles the rest
07:46 Joubu                can you remind me the bug/context of that?
07:46 ashimema             But with multiple to addresses?
07:46 ashimema             Why bit queue the notice once
07:46 ashimema             You enqueue a copy of the notice for each address.. filling the message queue
07:45 Joubu                sorry I don't understand the question :D
07:43 ashimema             Practically running and phone typing
07:43 ashimema             School run
07:42 Joubu                Do you have a cat walking on your keyboard?
07:42 ashimema             I wondered why the choice to multi enqueue as apposed 5i just send an array of addresses 8n the To?
07:41 ashimema             Witt the multi-address email stuff
07:40 Joubu                yes
07:40 ashimema             Joubu about?
07:39 magnuse              \o
07:37 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] o/
06:37 ashimema             Lol
06:34 dcook                allo reiveune
06:34 dcook                #hotproblems
06:33 dcook                "I always find I'm in hot demand". I may have laughed out loud reading that hehe
06:32 reiveune             hello
06:19 ashimema             I always find I'm in hot demand at hackfest.. which is lovely and I want to help everyone with everything... But I so often don't actually achieve many, if any, of my goals
06:18 ashimema             Maybe at the next hackfest I try to push for a more focused small room of Devs with a focused goal
06:18 ashimema             Lol
06:15 * magnuse            hands out lots of tuits
06:09 magnuse              \o/
06:05 dcook                I feel the same way though. It's easy to see the flaws when you know where to look.
06:05 dcook                Familiarity breeds contempt hehe
06:04 ashimema             Kohas great and marches forward.. but I feel all the pain points really keenly at the moment. Maybe I just know them all too well..
06:03 dcook                Yeah, inertia ends up winning
06:02 ashimema             Noone has time to concentrate on polishing
06:02 dcook                Pretty much
06:02 ashimema             It's all blocked by time
06:02 dcook                Absolutely. It is tough :(
06:01 ashimema             Pedro loves WordPress
06:01 ashimema             Yeah, we should let some of those best of breed systems inspire us more
06:00 ashimema             The editor does support all that.. but because we mix interfaces, news, pages and blocks all in one big mess, it's very difficult to actually apply the right stuff at the right time
06:00 dcook                Of course, that's the whole point of Wordpress, but they go in some good directions for a few things
06:00 dcook                Ahh yes yes. I gotcha. I was thinking about that a lot lately, especially compared to the Wordpress CMS functionality
05:59 ashimema             We could do so much better with TinyMCE.  Our WYSIWYG isn't at all WYG.. haha.. because we don't apply our stylesheets to it and we don't expose the Koha block components and things
05:58 dcook                Ah yes relatable
05:58 ashimema             Haha
05:58 ashimema             I've submitted a bunch of tickets, but as soon as I tried doing any work on any of them I quickly found myself deeply tangled in the mess of mingled code paths
05:57 ashimema             The additional content stuff trying to be too many things in my opinion. I'd like to see it split up more... Or at least the different concerns made much clearer in the code
05:57 dcook                I like you guys but not that much :p
05:56 dcook                Well I do want to be able to sleep and go to the bathroom...
05:56 dcook                Yass so much
05:56 ashimema             Like, 5 or 6 core Devs with some really clear goals locked in a room for a week
05:56 ashimema             I'd like to see a second sort of hackfest. I love the existing one, but I'd like to see a more technical, smaller group focused event too
05:56 dcook                I'd be curious to hear more about that
05:55 ashimema             The additional content stuff is getting me down a bit honestly. There are so many little issues with that area of code.. the interest in polishing it just went away and the followups never came
05:55 dcook                shindig*
05:55 dcook                Tomas and I need to come to Europe and have a KohaSec shingdig
05:54 dcook                Agreed
05:54 ashimema             The big csrf one to try and catch all is interesting.  I really don't think it shouldn't be too painful if we could actually get a group of us to concentrate on it for a few days together... But that just doesn't ever happen
05:53 dcook                I appreciated your comment on the editor one
05:53 ashimema             I tried to work through a few this week to keep them moving
05:53 dcook                Trying <3
05:53 ashimema             You've done a great job there mate
05:52 dcook                As the author of every security patch in the next security release haha
05:52 dcook                Agreed
05:52 ashimema             It's a real hidden work too
05:52 dcook                <3 ^
05:52 ashimema             Much like the security bugs of late.. we should really be prioritising them as a community but I'm struggling to have the motivation when it feels like it's such a small few who care about it
05:52 dcook                Actually Jonathan has pointed out how the middleware thing is already a problem with the Mojolicious API
05:51 ashimema             I've dabbled in that area over the years but never had time to really focus on it
05:51 dcook                If only I could clone myself. What could go wrong...
05:51 dcook                haha too true
05:51 ashimema             There's just too many interesting projects to look at haha
05:50 ashimema             We have a bunch of plack middlewares though that would need consideration. It's not an area I've deeply delved into so I don't know which of those would need mojo alternatives
05:50 dcook                I've done a lot of work to move us in that direction, but I don't think it's been on anyone's radar
05:50 ashimema             Hypnotoad
05:50 dcook                ^
05:49 ashimema             I'd love to see us go native mojo
05:48 ashimema             Oh, kivilahtio, long time no see
05:47 ashimema             Morning
03:20 TripathiDP[m]        kivilahtio: Thanks a lot. I will see the mapping. It is happening with all the records while issuing the book to the users.
03:18 kivilahtio           TripathiDP[m]: because the issueing/holding is done via the Item-record (koha.items) and the searches are done by the indexes MARC21 records from the koha.biblio and koha.biblio_metadata tables.
03:16 TripathiDP[m]        If there was any error with record, then why is it issuing? It shows the error but when check the report, it shows that book has been issued to the user.
03:16 TripathiDP[m]        Thanks for quick response.
03:15 kivilahtio           Fiza: Some of those fields are not visible in the intranet typical cataloguing views.
03:14 kivilahtio           Fiza: If you know the biblionumber, you can check the Koha database biblio_metadata-table for how the MARC21 XML looks like.
03:13 kivilahtio           correctly populated.
03:13 kivilahtio           Fiza: If I understood correctly, you have this problem with only one record? Then it might be easier to just pull the record again from an external source using Z39.50/SRU. There is probably something wrong with the frameworkcode, or some of the KohaToMARC-mapping fields within the MARC21 record, such as the field 999$b (if I remmeber correctly) for biblionumber or 942$c for default itemtype. You might want to check the record if the Koha-fields are
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02:45 Fiza                 this what i found in opac-error.log AH01215: Use of uninitialized value $branch_limit in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Koha.pm line 493.: /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl, referer: https://../cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=&q=The+malayan+law+journal&branch_group_limit=&weight_search=1
02:40 Fiza                 These are new records that have been migrated from the symphony workflow to KOHA from direct database, table-to-table migration. all data transferred before is no problem, only this record. I and the team installed Koha version: 21.05.01.003. and we maintain the application including the server and database.
02:11 kivilahtio           Who is maintaining Koha for you?
02:10 kivilahtio           How did you install Koha?
02:10 kivilahtio           Have the searches worked previously?
02:10 kivilahtio           Fiza: There are so many reasons why the searches can go wrong.
02:09 kivilahtio           Also you can tweak what is logged with the /etc/koha/sites/koha-name/log4perl.conf to maybe get more help. But probably not in this case.
02:09 kivilahtio           I have no idea, there are so many. They often give more help.
02:06 Fiza                 may i know which logs file?
02:06 kivilahtio           Fiza: can you take a look at Koha's server-side logs?
02:03 Fiza                 hello, im fiza, i have problem with my bib records, records has been added and can search in cataloging module, but it is not searchable in OPAC/catalog. the error promted is Error: Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 763.