Time  Nick             Message
23:58 Penggu           Had to delete a couple of publishercode indexes on biblioitems and deletedbiblioitems because the upgrade script was trying to convert the column to text from varchar(255). Finally finished the upgrade!
23:47 Penggu           thank you
23:47 dcook_           I'm in NSW so I'm around if you have questions/issues
23:46 dcook_           Ah very cool
23:45 Penggu           yes - a k12 school
23:44 dcook_           You're in Victoria, yes? At a library or a company?
23:43 dcook_           Hehe
23:43 Penggu           i've got other upgrade errors now (progress!)
23:43 Penggu           perfect - thanks
23:42 dcook_           This comment specifically will help you the most: https://github.com/perl5-dbi/DBD-mysql/issues/354#issuecomment-1679677264
23:42 dcook_           No worries. Unfortunately, it's the only real option at the moment until DBD::mysql release an update to their Perl module not to set MYSQL_OPT_RECONNECT (even as false)
23:41 Penggu           ok thanks for the pointer
23:41 dcook_           The latest client has been wreaking havoc on the Internet the past 24 hours or so
23:41 Penggu           log files don't shine any light. Same line in /var/log/koha/site/updatedatabase-error.....log
23:41 dcook_           You'll most likely want to downgrade libmysqlclient21
23:41 dcook_           In any case, I suggest looking at https://github.com/perl5-dbi/DBD-mysql/issues/354
23:40 dcook_           Interesting..
23:40 Penggu           On the web: Updating database structure /Update errors : / WARNING: MYSQL_OPT_RECONNECT is deprecated and will be removed in a future version. / [Try again]
23:40 dcook_           It shouldn't be preventing the installer from working
23:40 dcook_           Penggu: That should be a warning rather than an error
23:39 Penggu           Hi. Anyone come across "WARNING: MYSQL_OPT_RECONNECT is deprecated and will be removed in a future version." errors that prevent the installer from succeeding?
22:15 Mimir910         But I do live in a perpetual state of struggling against a new, higher level of understanding and performance. Haha
22:15 Mimir910         As a person who's worked in kitchens, I don't really do 'overwhelmed'
22:11 jalway           I'm out. Have a good one. o/
22:07 jalway           Oof, the documentation for MARCEdit is helplessly out-of-date, but the Z39.50 batch search by ISBN seems to be functional.
22:01 davidnind        Hope we are not overwhelming you here! 8-) Start slowly, get the import of a representative sample of records and items working, then rinse and repeat.
22:01 jalway           Mimir910, I just tested it, I didn't get any hits, but it seemed to function correctly. I just grabbed 3 random ISBNs and searched a random small library. So, it's not surprising that I didn't get any hits.
21:59 jalway           Mimir910, Yeah, you can batch search / save marc records via a list of ISBNs. Using the batch search feature in MARCEdit.
21:58 davidnind        If you aim for a minimal record - such as title, author, ISBN, etc. ; and item information, such as barcodes, etc., - you can always enhance later on either with updating individual records using Z39.50 search or exporting, using MARCEdit for Z39.50, and then updating the records in Koha.
21:55 davidnind        You need to make sure that your MARC records have the required information for Koha, such as the item type codes, and the codes you use for things like collections, library location, etc. - these need to match what you have setup in Koha. I will try to find a good resource about this for you.
21:51 Mimir910         To prevent this becoming a mess again in the future, because it's a huuuuge mess they handed me and asked me to fix
21:51 Mimir910         This is all helping me understand how this stuff works but I got orders to fill and was hoping to use a backing of a working catalog for it
21:51 Mimir910         God yes this is what I need. Hahaha
21:49 jalway           At which point you'll be trying to import probably good records.
21:48 jalway           Then, you could download those records and stage those for import in Koha.
21:48 jalway           Mimir910, Using MARCEdit.
21:47 jalway           Mimir910, Hmm..., looks like you could do a batch search form a file with a list of ISBNs.
21:46 jalway           Mimir910, I used the MARCEdit Z39.50 client some. You can add those Z39.50 servers to the server list in MARCEdit as well.
21:45 Mimir910         One day just getting a bunch up on my Koha at once will speed up the rest of the actual work I need to do
21:45 Mimir910         Any way I can do this bulk is ideal, haha
21:45 jalway           Mimir910, Yes, it's a little finicky, but it is usable.
21:44 jalway           davidnind, Part of the trouble is the data. Mimir910, Has 2 datapoints, QuestionableTitle+ISBN.
21:43 Mimir910         MarcEdit has a z.50 client
21:43 Mimir910         Oh snap
21:42 davidnind        I'll see if I can find a more recent tutorial on importing your data - there are a lot around, but some a quite dated - unless anyone else beats me to it!
21:42 jalway           You can also click the help button on a page in Koha to be taken to the manual.
21:41 davidnind        Probably something useful for you - Implementation check list (https://koha-community.org/manual/23.05/en/html/implementation_checklist.html#implementation-checklist-label) and Cataloguing (https://koha-community.org/manual/23.05/en/html/cataloging.html)
21:40 davidnind        And there is the Koha Community manual - it's always a work in progress, and we've never managed to have it 100%up-to-date! https://koha-community.org/manual/23.05/en/html/index.html
21:37 davidnind        RAFLIMITS - I haven't watched many of these, but they seem great (more in-depth tutorials/instructions): https://www.youtube.com/@RAFLIMTS
21:35 davidnind        Koha Geek - lost of useful tips and quick tutorials: https://kohageek.blogspot.com/
21:34 jalway           Nice. :-)
21:33 davidnind        (bonus with koha-US - the special interest groups are really useful to attend, depending on your area of interest, and are open to anyone)
21:32 davidnind        koha-US learning resources: https://koha-us.org/learn/
21:31 davidnind        ByWater Solutions learning resources: https://koha.bywatersolutions.com/
21:30 davidnind        I'll put together a list of resources that may help, but I can't do that until the weekend. In the meantime, here are some to get you started (bearing in mind that some things may not be up-to-date with the version you are using (assuming Koha 23.05.x).
21:28 jalway           Mimir910, Cool, yeah, Koha is nice like that. Once you have your data in Koha, you can still get your data out of Koha. ;-)
21:28 Mimir910         From Koha
21:27 davidnind        You can list all records in the system - in the staff interface, from the dropdown list next to Search in the top header select Advanced search, then select the Item types you have and click on Search.
21:27 jalway           From Koha or from your old system?
21:26 jalway           That's your "public" Catalog view. I have no idea how you have Koha setup, so I have no idea, if it's public or not.
21:26 Mimir910         Hey, cool - I exported catalog data and then opened it in MarcEditor
21:26 jalway           "OPAC view: Open in new window." Once you have clicked on an item that you've cataloged.
21:25 jalway           Mimir910, Actually, once you have an item up in the cataloging search, there is an Open in OPAC view.
21:24 jalway           Mimir909, You should also have an OPAC view, but I have no idea how to tell you how to get to that. xD
21:23 jalway           up at the top
21:23 jalway           Mimir909, Click Cataloging at the top and just do a search in the text box given.
21:23 jalway           Mimir909, You mean to see if a record is in the system?
21:21 Mimir909         Okay, it's back up - Is there an easy way to just check the catalog directly? Or do I have to run a report and such?
21:12 Mimir909         Crap.  Server went down in the crash and I need to figure out how to get it up again. Lol
21:08 Mimir909         Ah, I have to start Apache
21:06 jalway           Mimir909, I can probably find it somewhere, been a while though. xD
21:06 jalway           Mimir909, That's what I have IT people for. xD
21:05 Mimir909         Great time to practice the actual server side commands for Koha - Which thing in the terminal will actually start the server back up?
21:02 Mimir909         Whoops, crashed my Linux.
20:58 jalway           We just made the switch from our cataloging system of 20 years, to Koha, fully.
20:58 jalway           Which is where Koha came in for us.
20:58 jalway           I got started cataloging by cataloging serials, because we were paying something like $3k a year for a dumb tracker we only used internally.
20:55 jalway           Quality wise.
20:55 jalway           SF Public just has some nice records, too.
20:54 jalway           LINK-California is a consortium of libraries, the OHIOLINK catalog is also a consortium of libraries, and the SF Public is just a great place to get records for DVDs, etc.
20:54 Mimir909         Interesting.
20:53 jalway           Theoretically, it could be a more book like thing that is also a serial, but doesn't look like a magazine.
20:53 jalway           Continuing Resources == Serials == Periodicals == Magazines, etc.
20:52 Mimir909         Hey, I notice there's an item type called 'Continuing Resources' - What is this intended for?
20:52 Mimir909         Yeeeaaaaah. Hahaha
20:51 jalway           Mimir909, Textbooks are stupid like that. I hate cataloging textbooks.
20:51 jalway           Hmm.., yeah, they're all working on my config, so not sure what I can tell you about that. xD
20:51 Mimir909         Also, I have a match! That's cool.  Though, it didn't match the first one I tried which is perplexing.
20:50 Mimir909         California
20:49 jalway           Which one is timing out?
20:49 Mimir909         Cool.  I may have made a typo in one because it's getting timeouts, so I'll double check that
20:48 jalway           Mimir909, The ones I listed are Z39.50 servers.
20:47 Mimir909         Also, are those Z servers or SRU servers?
20:47 jalway           10digit or 13digit. Koha doesn't like the dashes.
20:47 jalway           You can fiddle with the items after you get all of the records in the system. As the items are how you check-out a book associated with that record.
20:47 Mimir909         How should ISBN be formated to get matches?
20:46 Mimir909         Hmmmmmm, cool
20:46 jalway           Then, you will have 3k known good records.
20:45 jalway           I highly recommend you add a column to your QuestionableTitle,ISBN spreadsheet. Add, ImportedToKoha.
20:45 jalway           Repeat, 3000 times.
20:45 jalway           Import record that looks good and click save.
20:44 jalway           Then, just do a search via ISBN
20:44 jalway           Once you have all of those Z39.50 Servers setup.
20:44 jalway           More->Cataloging->New from Z39.50/SRU
20:43 jalway           Mimir909, What I highly suggest is that you just manually catalog everything. It will take a significant amount of time.
20:42 jalway           All the rest of the Z39.50 servers that we use are for bibliographic records.
20:41 jalway           We just use Library of Congress for our Authorities.
20:41 jalway           Err..., also, whether you're trying to pull bibliographic/authorities records.
20:40 jalway           The keys are the name of the where you're getting your record, the host:port,database name, syntax, and encoding.
20:39 jalway           That's just preselected and rank, stuff that you can decide on yourself.
20:38 Mimir909         What do 'No' and '0' refer to, before the 'USMARC' setting?
20:38 jalway           SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC LIBRARY,sflib1.sfpl.org:210,innopac,No,0,USMARC,MARC-8,0,Bibliographic
20:37 jalway           OHIOLINK,olc1.ohiolink.edu:210,INNOPAC,No,0,USMARC,utf8,0,Bibliographic
20:36 jalway           LINK - CALIFORNIA,csul.iii.com:210,INNOPAC,No,0,USMARC,utf8,0,Bibliographic
20:36 jalway           Here's a couple more that will be helpful:
20:34 Mimir909         Checking with Paul, I determined I had correct settings for connection under these, as they seemed to be configured default
20:34 Mimir909         Library of Congress (there is 4 of them) and a library in France
20:34 jalway           Mimir999, What libraries do you have listed in the Z39.50/SRU servers?
20:33 jalway           Mimir999, You'd possibly spend more time coding a script to do it imperfectly than you would just searching for all the records manually.
20:32 jalway           More->Administration->Z39.50/SRU servers administration
20:32 Mimir999         Checking there now (:
20:32 Mimir999         I talked to Paul over at the Naval Archives in Ontario who is a Koha 3 user and he suggested coding a script that manually catalogs stuff 1 by 1.
20:32 jalway           Mimir999, Click Z39.50 in the Administration module.
20:32 Mimir999         But the actual doing it is not totally understood either
20:31 Mimir999         Right, that's what I'm hoping to do
20:31 jalway           Mimir999, The easiest solution may be to manually pull records for every book using Z39.50 from within Koha.
20:30 Mimir999         A piddly library of textbooks for students of an independent magnet school, but one which I am the only person able to really do anything with
20:30 Mimir999         Around 3000
20:30 jalway           Mimir999, How many records are we talking about? 1k, 2k, 30k?
20:29 jalway           Mimir999, Those are examples of full MARC standard records.
20:29 jalway           Mimir999, Please see here: https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/examples.html
20:28 Mimir999         The catalog I made is just titles and ISBNs
20:28 Mimir999         From the old software I can pull something more in-depth, but it also will list 100 copies of something we only had 40 of, and has tons of other data errors.
20:27 Mimir999         The complete records exist in the form of a wildly inaccurate catalog
20:25 jalway           Mimir999, Or do you have complete records?
20:25 jalway           Mimir999, MARC is not a magic ball. Did you you only give it a questionable title and an ISBN?
20:24 Mimir999         The MARC file will be whatever MarcEdit spat out when I attempted to convert it, assuming I even did it correctly
20:24 jalway           Mimir999, Is that what the MARC records consist of?
20:24 Mimir999         For context, they were using an utterly busted library software that is online only but stopped being supported by developers, so several basic functions broke down and no one knows when but everything kept going
20:23 Mimir999         In the base catalog, just ISBNs and some questionable titles.
20:23 Mimir999         That means we're on the right track
20:23 jalway           Mimir999, What datapoints do you have?
20:22 jalway           Mimir999, I think my brain started bleeding there.
20:22 * paxed          boggles
20:22 Mimir999         Well, the catalog is hand-assembled.  I went through every item in the building and noted its ISBN in the spreadsheet
20:21 jalway           There's no way to get an actual marc file exported?
20:21 jalway           What system are you pulling your catalog data from?
20:20 jalway           Ah, nice, so no room for error, then. xD
20:19 Mimir999         I got the MARC file by taking a spreadsheet of our catalog and trying to convert it using MarcEdit
20:19 Mimir999         Hello, jumped onto the windows PC where my MarcEdit lives
20:19 jalway           khall_, You are the Kyle Hall, yes? I found a typo in the Patron Importer plugin.
20:16 jalway           Mimir909, Where did you get your MARC file?
20:16 jalway           In the event that it's throwing errors, then you have bad data.
20:15 jalway           Mimir909, Can you use marcbreaker to break the marc file into a human readable format? .mrk vs .mrc?
20:14 Mimir909         I may also not be doing that part correctly.
20:14 Mimir909         Ah, okay, this is the MarcEdit software - I downloaded that and tried using it to get my initial MARC file
20:13 Mimir909         Ooooh that sounds fun lemme try
20:13 Mimir909         So far what I've theorized is just that my format is missing something so it's not taking it properly
20:13 jalway           Mimir909, I would suggest using this tool to verify that your records are valid. https://marcedit.reeset.net/
20:13 jalway           Hmm...
20:12 Mimir909         I've tried to upload multiple times and it seems to go nowhere, so far
20:12 Mimir909         It says 'No records have been staged'
20:11 Mimir909         Hmmm, let me look (:
20:11 jalway           Have you clicked on the Manage staged records button?
20:11 Mimir909         And my best guess there is that I just don't have the file configured the way it wants
20:11 Mimir909         Cool, I've looked at that, and this is where I get a roadblock - When I upload my file (I have it in both MARC and CSV format, as mentioned) it says it starts the job but doesn't actually seem to do anything
20:10 jalway           More->Cataloging->Stage records for import
20:09 jalway           So, what you want to do is use the Cataloging interface to stage records for import.
20:06 Mimir909         Which works for me for now
20:03 Mimir909         Well, currently it looks like my setup started with the defaults - Fiction, Non-Fiction, and Reference
20:03 jalway           Mimir909, Have you defined your collections?
20:02 Mimir909         I am the most technically inclined guy in the school I work for and just need to figure this out enough to make use of the software for tracking purposes for now, the actually functional library can come later
20:02 Mimir909         We absolutely cannot afford the
20:00 jalway           Mimir909, You are doing this without a support company like ByWater Solutions, yes?
19:59 Mimir909         I have MARC and CSV and it doesn't seem to take either and won't tell me why
19:59 Mimir909         The import is what I'm trying to figure out
19:59 jalway           Mimir909, Uh, you already imported everything?
19:59 jalway           Mimir909, Probably the best way to start is to create a user, a book, and check-out the book to that user.
19:59 Mimir909         If I can just get our base inventory up and running, the defaults should help quite a bit
19:58 jalway           Mimir909, There is a boat load of settings, etc. that you need to configure to get a "functional" library setup in Koha.
19:57 Mimir909         I can see settings are a series of named variables which can be modified through a menu, which is cool.  The main thing I am trying to do right now is I have a big ol' list of ISBNs and I want to add them and get the zebra search to do its thing to them
19:57 jalway           Mimir909, Okay, so the hard part is doing all of the fiddly bits. xD
19:57 Mimir909         Yep, logged in and looking at admin panel.
19:57 jalway           Mimir909, Have you been able to login?
19:56 jalway           Mimir909, Hmm..., that's a nice starting point!
19:56 Mimir909         Until this, no - But I've gotten through Koha setup to the point where I was able to perform web installation and see the configuration options
19:55 jalway           Mimir909, Have you used Linux?
19:55 Mimir909         I consider myself 'moderate' where 'expert' is so many leagues beyond it, but I can't say I'm a total beginner either, just not super in-depth, haha
19:55 Mimir909         I understand how programming works but have never really coded anything of major complexity.  I can write HTML partially from memory or understand its working parts to use tools to put it together.
19:53 jalway           Mimir909, What would you call your level of technical expertise?
19:53 davidnind        It's probably not that helpful 8-)
19:53 Mimir909         I've subsribed to the mailing list, pounded my head against the documentation, and even reached out to an active user listed on the site.
19:52 Mimir909         I really need help understanding the basics of Koha for work. Hahaha
19:52 davidnind        Minmir909: That should be huginn!
19:52 Mimir909         oh cool
19:52 davidnind        Mimir909: higinn is one of the "helpful" bot accounts we have on the channel...
19:23 Mimir909         seeing someone named huginn is a coincidence for me. haha
19:23 Mimir909         woah that's crazy
15:11 reiveune         bye
12:49 paulderscheid[m] we also need to mention devcontainers.json
12:48 wahanui          i already had it that way, huginn.
12:48 huginn           paulderscheid[m]: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
12:48 paulderscheid[m] @tuxayo concerning the dev workflow w/ ktd it is possible to get this working w/ the oss solutions but it’s much more complicated and we have yet to document it so it’s easy to understand for new devs
11:47 dolf             tcohen: Google Workspace for Non-Profits works very well for us. Is Koha Community a non-profit?
11:46 dolf             I just did `systemctl stop rabbitmq-server && systemctl disable rabbitmq-server` and re-ran `apt upgrade` and it worked. Then `apt full-upgrade`. This automatically re-enabled rabbitmq-server, and it started without issues this time.
11:43 tcohen[m]        we need a reliable SMTP server for community services
11:42 davidnind        dolf: rabbitmq-server is used by Koha - it now runs some the queued tasks. But I don't know how it works - there have been messages on the mailing list about this in the past, so maybe searching the archive will help...
11:27 dolf             I'm trying to upgrade Debian 10 to Debian 11 on my Koha VM (Koha is already at the latest version), but after changing the release in /etc/apt/sources.list from buster to bullseye and running `apt update` and `apt upgrade`, rabbitmq-server fails to start. Is rabbitmq-server used by Koha, or can I simply remove it and move along?
10:53 Guest9049        OK, I'll try to contact them for more details. Thank you!
10:40 Guest9049        We would like to know more about the Koha Library Software, any sales or contact in Hong Kong that we could reach?
10:38 jac              Hello
10:35 davidnind        dolf: thanks for letting me know - KohaCon23 is on at the moment, so those that can look at it are likely to be busy...
10:22 dolf             davidnind: The reset password e-mail also did not reach me
10:14 huginn           davidnind: The operation succeeded.
10:14 davidnind        @later tell tcohen Could you look at the Wiki setup to check whether emails are being generated? New user dolf didn't receive confirmation request or notification when approved (has checked SPAM folders)
10:13 huginn           davidnind: The operation succeeded.
10:13 davidnind        @later tell thd Could you look at the Wiki setup to check whether emails are being generated? New user dolf didn't receive confirmation request or notification when approved (has checked SPAM folders)
10:08 davidnind        dolf: that's what was entered, so looks like something is up with the email 😦 ... Your account is activated - you may be able to do a forgotten password reset, but this may not work either
10:07 ashimema         I see
10:04 dolf             davidnind Nothing yet. Did I make a typo? rudolfbyker@gmail.com
10:04 eythian          I know, I was looking up how long years was, for a conversation :)
09:59 ashimema         no-one has heard form him in years eythian
09:57 huginn           eythian: drojf was last seen in #koha 4 years, 37 weeks, 3 days, 14 hours, 43 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <drojf> -s
09:57 eythian          @seen drojf
09:34 davidnind        Let me know if you don't receive anything relatively soon - there may be something wrong the email (it's not something I look after, so will have to raise a bug!)
09:27 dolf             Nothing in spam yet (unless it was blocked on the outgoing server or on Google's servers, in which case there is a big problem with the mail delivery)
09:27 dolf             Thanks :)
09:25 dolf             Just waiting for my VM provider to perform the rollback, than I'll do the final test to verify if it works.
09:25 davidnind        dolf: it still pending, but I can approve anyway! (I find most often that the request confirmation email goes into people's SPAM folders...
09:24 dolf             I requested a wiki account, but still waiting for the e-mail
09:24 davidnind        If you don't have an account on the Wiki, I can add it.
09:23 davidnind        dolf: definitely worth adding! (assuming it worked for you)
09:14 dolf             Would this https://pastebin.com/5ujqW3H0 be worthy of adding to https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Database_row_format ?
08:58 dolf             I'm not that careful :P (I also have nightly mysqldumps, so if all else fails I'll just re-install and restore, or even build a new VM)
08:56 tuxayo           If you are not, just rely on the update script working and Koha basic usage working afterwards.
08:56 tuxayo           If you are very very careful you could diff a dbdump before and after that.
08:53 dolf             I'm testing that now.
08:53 huginn           04Bug 28267: critical, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to stable , Older databases fail to upgrade due to having a row format other than "DYNAMIC"
08:52 tuxayo           likely: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28267#c20
08:52 tuxayo           > Would it be safe to blindly run ALTER TABLE on all of them to convert them to dynamic, or should I focus on specific tables?
08:50 tuxayo           dolf ah great!
08:50 tuxayo           > The row format seems to be "compact" rather than "dynamic" :) I'll try to change it!
08:44 dolf             I can generate the ALTER TABLE query strings using: SELECT CONCAT('ALTER TABLE `', table_schema, '`.`', table_name, '` ROW_FORMAT=DYNAMIC;')  FROM information_schema.tables  WHERE table_schema = 'koha_rsc' and row_format <> 'Dynamic';
08:40 dolf             `show table status where row_format <> "dynamic";` gives me 202 rows. Would it be safe to blindly run ALTER TABLE on all of them to convert them to dynamic, or should I focus on specific tables?
08:30 dolf             The row format seems to be "compact" rather than "dynamic" :) I'll try to change it!
08:27 davidnind        Joubu++ for presentation
08:18 dolf             Thanks for the advice!! Do you need any more info from my broken VM before I roll back?
08:07 tuxayo           (when looking at the output https://pastebin.com/04B2Dhdp)
08:06 tuxayo           And it's not the package upgrade script that doesn't seems to handle the error. It's updatedatabase.pl itself, right? Maybe it also exposes a bug there.
08:05 tuxayo           It doesn't seem related
08:05 tuxayo           Does anyone know why it's this upgrade that git a problem about row size? https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/commit/a6ef152db9e71805efe8e7dd6b2f8549da0f65b4/installer/data/mysql/db_revs/210600041.pl
08:02 tuxayo           And if it's wrong, rollback the VM, fix the row format and re run the upgrade.
08:01 tuxayo           So I guess could check the row format you have
07:59 tuxayo           dolf: the ticket mentions this: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Database_row_format
07:59 tuxayo           davidnind: good find!
07:57 huginn           04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28267 critical, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to stable , Older databases fail to upgrade due to having a row format other than "DYNAMIC"
07:57 davidnind        Bug 28267 has some of the errors mentioned, such as "Row size too large", but it is a bit too complicated for me to make any sense of....
07:57 tuxayo           During the time you examine your DB
07:56 tuxayo           dolf: you definitely should rollback your VM, at least keep the back preciously
07:55 dolf             Thanks for your time so far! (I'm thinking hard this side as well...)
07:54 tuxayo           That's the version in Debian 10 and our CI tests it and it's indeed using MariaDB 10.3.39
07:51 tuxayo           ok, nothing weird here
07:51 tuxayo           "MariaDB 10.3.39"
07:51 tuxayo           *result of the DB upgrade. Maybe yes and then it's a bug.
07:51 tuxayo           I'm not sure the script upgrade script in the deb package is taking into account the res
07:51 tuxayo           "but the `apt upgrade` command still exited with code 0"
07:51 tuxayo           "I got an error during the database upgrades"
07:50 dolf             MariaDB 10.3.39 (running on the same VM)
07:49 tuxayo           dolf: what is your database software?
07:35 dolf             or BLOBs at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Installer.pm line 741
07:35 dolf             The error is: ERROR - {UNKNOWN}: DBI Exception: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Row size too large. The maximum row size for the used table type, not counting BLOBs, is 8126. This includes storage overhead, check the manual. You have to change some columns to TEXT
07:34 dolf             Hi Kohaphiles, I recently did an update from 21.05.00-1 to 23.05.02-1 (we were two years behind!) and I got an error during the database upgrades, but the `apt upgrade` command still exited with code 0. Full outout at https://pastebin.com/04B2Dhdp . Is there a way to fix this, or should I roll back my VM and try something else?
07:33 tuxayo           And for the contribution to the wiki.
07:23 tuxayo           Thanks for thinking about mentioning VSCodium/Code though 👍️
07:20 tuxayo           lol
07:20 tuxayo           « paulderscheid : Just thought that tuxayo might get enraged that we recommend Microsoft stuff :D»
07:20 tuxayo           Ah, I new I missed something silly a few weeks ago.
07:07 tuxayo           Maybe the speaker or someone else from the middle east at the KohaCon could have lead to help reach there ministry of education library department? Having contributions from UAE would be very nice.
07:07 tuxayo           That's super cool.
07:03 tuxayo           Here we can see that it seems there have Koha on many (all?) of there schools from kindergarden to secondary
07:02 tuxayo           https://hea.koha-community.org/libraries-by-country
07:02 tuxayo           https://hea.koha-community.org/
07:02 tuxayo           UEA counted with only 11 libraries? The speaker would be pleased to know that there at like 1100 more 🤯
06:42 ashimema         interesting
06:39 oleonard__       Yeah I don't know how the speaker collected the numbers
06:39 dcook            And the struggle is real with indexing...
06:39 dcook            We've got one library there using English/Arabic/French
06:39 dcook            oleonard__ Could throw in Lebanon as well there
06:38 davidnind        nice!
06:38 oleonard__       https://snipboard.io/CQ1P5F.jpg
06:11 magnuse          i have been working a bit on the protected patrons thingy. hope to have something to test this week
06:10 dcook            btw I'm planning to try downgrading that mysql client to see if that fixes the issue
06:10 magnuse          kia ora khall
06:07 magnuse          hiya dcook
06:07 * dcook          waves to folks
06:02 oleonard         o/
06:02 reiveune         hello
04:54 dcook            Like I needed this today haha
04:54 dcook            Ikr
04:39 tcohen[m]        Ha ha
04:39 tcohen[m]        Awesome
03:52 dcook            FYI for any Ubuntu users: https://github.com/perl5-dbi/DBD-mysql/issues/354