Time  Nick                   Message
23:31 dcook                  Looks like I missed all the fun while I was sleeping
20:58 caroline               good night!
20:58 h2h2                   I saw that--I've seen JQuery and been exposed to a lot of it, but I've had some regex instruction so it's less foreign to me!:)  Have to run, now--see y'all next time!!  Bye!
20:52 caroline               I'm not good enough with JQuery to do it though
20:51 caroline               cait just commented that you can tweak it with JQuery...
20:51 h2h2                   I also really want this bug to move along--I'd love to figure out how to use it in our setting, too!!
20:49 h2h2                   Ah--thanks for mentioning that tool--it looks great!!  And thank you, too, for letting me know that just copy/paste with the regex is OK--I'll try testing the bug tomorrow!  FUN!!!
20:47 caroline               It wasn't this tool, but something similar http://cutternumber.com/
20:46 caroline               Where I used to work we used Cutter-Sandborn and there was an online tool to "calculate" the Cutter, but like you said, it was done manually. If there was no author, it was the title I think
20:46 h2h2                   Also, many libraries use an 099 field for local call number info--that might be a good field to use, if Kolvir wants to put in some free text info like this.
20:44 caroline               yes, that's why I think the SIG is a great place to ask that kind of question
20:44 h2h2                   But I'm sure libraries that actually do such a thing would have better ideas, insights, etc.!
20:43 caroline               h2h2, just copy-paste the regex, no thinking required! :P
20:43 h2h2                   Libraries that I know of that add something like the first three letters of the author's name just type it in at the end of the call number--humans do it because of titles that lack an author, adaptations, etc.
20:41 huginn                 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28691 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Quick spine label should split the same way the label creator does / use splitting rules
20:41 h2h2                   Oh!  Sorry I missed Kolvir!!  Thank you for mentioning the Cataloging SIG--I hope Kolvir comes!  I also got CCd on Bug 28691--I'd love to try to test that, but am not sure about the regex, etc.--I'll take a look at it tomorrow.
20:24 caroline               good luck!
20:24 Kolvir                 thank you for the help, I have to run out of town, I'll try and get on in the morning and as about the printer. I'm UTC-5.
20:23 caroline               Hopefully, it will help move it along...
20:22 Kolvir                 thanks for posting that to bugzilla.
20:22 caroline               there is a lot of information scattered a bit everywhere
20:21 Kolvir                 Thank you. So much in my head at the moment, forgot about the other groups and lists.
20:21 caroline               Usually they have really good ideas and insights
20:21 caroline               Cataloging special interest group here https://koha-us.org/calendar/
20:20 caroline               Kolvir, there is a group meeting for cataloguing things on Thursday (headed by h2h2), you could ask there
20:19 caroline               h2h2 is my reference for cataloging :)
20:19 Kolvir                 I'm a volunteer at a church library, not a librarian, and MARC was completely new for me.
20:19 caroline               h2h2 around?
20:18 Kolvir                 is it a bad idea to create some 9xx field for the author's first 3?
20:18 caroline               On my system, it opens the regular browser printer window thing
20:17 caroline               hm... I've never thought about adding the letters automatically... I know you can add an entire field, but I'm not sure you can add part of a field
20:17 Kolvir                 ok, thanks for the help. As I've said before, the Koha community is great.
20:17 Kolvir                 Do you know where the spine label pulls the printer info from? from the built in label tool?
20:16 caroline               it's a bit late now, but maybe check back tomorrow morning (if you're in north/south america), usually we have a lot of people from europe around, maybe one of them will be able to help
20:16 Kolvir                 Separate question? Is there a way to add the first three letters of the author's last name to the call number, or concatenate it from the author field and add a new MARC field for it? Or a suggestion on the best way to handle it? I am getting MARC data from open sources and am running it through some programs and could do it that way, but wondered what the best practice is. Add it to the call number, or create a new field for it.
20:13 caroline               cait around? maybe you've seen this problem before?
20:11 Kolvir                 me too
20:11 caroline               ok... :/ It's good, but I was kind of hoping it was not there lol
20:10 Kolvir                 it has the call number from in the report
20:09 caroline               lol! I'm not sure how to access the db from the terminal in a "normal' installation... mine has a bunch of aliases, which makes my life easier but it means I can't really help on that front
20:08 Kolvir                 I'm the admin, Lord help us, but the system isn't in production yet, still cataloging.
20:07 caroline               You can use reports if you don't have access to the database. Reports > Create from SQL
20:06 Kolvir                 in Koha or from the terminal
20:06 Kolvir                 where can I run sql commands at on it?
20:05 caroline               and your item has something in itemcallnumber? you can check in the database (select itemcallnumber from items where barcode = ''; ) or using reports
20:04 Kolvir                 yep. <itemcallnumber>
20:04 caroline               It should by default, but you never know...
20:04 caroline               Check the system preference SpineLabelFormat to make sure it contains itemcallnumber
20:03 Kolvir                 not that I am aware of. are there settings I can check?
20:03 Kolvir                 23.05.01
20:02 Kolvir                 saved it to a file and there isn't a call number at all.
20:02 caroline               Also which version are you working on?
20:02 caroline               did you deactivate the plugin and any css or js, just to make sure it's not hidden by something?
20:01 Kolvir                 footer
20:01 Kolvir                 In the print popup it looks like there is just part of a header and fotter, no call number
20:00 caroline               You see it on the screen but it prints blank?
19:59 Kolvir                 I just get a blank.
19:59 caroline               Not that I can find... what is not working?
19:55 Kolvir                 I can't figure out how to swetup the quick spine label to work with my label printer. Is there a guideline somewhere?
19:40 caroline               It could be a temporary solution until bug28691 is fixed
19:39 caroline               It's not ideal, but you can click on 'Edit this label' and manually add a line break before the period
19:35 Kolvir                 I'd love to have the quickspine work but it has been very difficult to get it formated for my label printer.
19:34 caroline               You can contact bywater directly for help with the plugin, i'm sure they'll be happy to help... as for Koha itself, the splitting rules seem to only be used with the regular label creator. This can be used with a printer that prints one label at a time, but it's a lot of steps (create a batch, export the batch, etc.)
19:31 huginn                 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28691 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Quick spine label should split the same way the label creator does / use splitting rules
19:31 caroline               bug 28691
19:31 caroline               I don't know the plugin, so I can't help with that... but I think there might be a bug with the quick label tool...
19:30 Kolvir                 I can print sucessfully from the plugin to it, but just not how I want.
19:26 Kolvir                 I've tried that, but am having a hard time getting it to work with my zebra printer.
19:26 caroline               Kolvir, like this? https://snipboard.io/nioSze.jpg
19:22 caroline               Kolvir, you are using the splitting rules in classification sources?
19:22 Kolvir                 I've seen a couple examples, but i'm getting something wrong. At bywater's site: https://bywatersolutions.com/education/using-the-label-plugin-in-koha-part-2 , the code near the end of the page doesn't work, and I don't have the knowledge to fix it.
19:19 Kolvir                 I am trying despertly to format spine labels. Ideally, with the quick spine label, but the label creator or bywater's plugin would be fine. What I need is the a call number like '235.51 Har' to print on three lines split like '235' '.51' 'Har'. I can not get the regex figured out and have been hacking at it all day.
17:28 KarinaEsterDiez[m]     saludos a todos !!!
17:07 KarinaEsterDiez[m]     hola! te escribo! muchas gracias y coordinamos. muy muy amable!
17:06 tcohen[m]              O más tarde por acá que estoy en reunión
17:06 tcohen[m]              Escribirme a tomascohen@theke.io y hacemos una llamada
17:05 tcohen[m]              Puedo ayudarte
17:03 KarinaEsterDiez[m]     consultar y no es un problema o error que lo haya encontrado en distintos foros sobre el tema. Muchas Gracias, desde ya por leerme! Karina desde Argentina.
17:03 KarinaEsterDiez[m]     hola! como estan, me uni, para hacer una consulta. trabajo en Argentina en una dependecia del estado, biblioteca publica y no podemos buscar, ni por nro. de inventario, ni por autor ni materia ni nada.  zebra no estaria funcionando. Yo solo soy una de las bibiotecarias no parametrice el koha que tenemos en nuestro espacio, pero quisieramos saber si alguna vez les paso algo similar y como pudieron resolverlo. Porque no tenemos a quien
15:33 h2h2                   I think it could be adapted to other workflows, too.
15:33 h2h2                   I'm well, thank you!  How are you doing?  It was fun testing the preservation module--it's way more complex than we would need, but I have enough of a pres workflow to understand it's awesomeness!  I'm excited about it!
15:25 cait                   thx for testing the preservation module - big test plan and all
15:25 cait                   how are you doing?
15:24 h2h2                   Hi cait!!:):)
15:24 cait                   hi h2h2 :)
15:21 h2h2                   Hello!
15:15 reiveune               bye
15:13 paulderscheid[m]       And since I have more free time now I might finally be able to do it
15:13 paulderscheid[m]       Not really, was too occupied w/ work but it's still on my list
14:38 tcohen[m]              have you got somewhere with the cities Vue stuff?
14:30 paulderscheid[m]       Thanks
14:28 tcohen[m]              https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-gitify/-/blob/master/koha-gitify?ref_type=heads#L160-184
14:28 tcohen[m]              it is done by this script
14:27 paulderscheid[m]       Was suspecting that
14:27 paulderscheid[m]       Thanks tcohen
14:27 tcohen[m]              s
14:27 tcohen[m]              paulderscheid: I just noticed your question, answer is ye
12:47 tcohen[m]              but I already promised to work on CSRF heh
12:47 tcohen[m]              I hope to submit today
12:43 cait                   I can't test today, but I'Ll try to do my best to comment and test tomorrow
12:43 cait                   thank you
12:42 tcohen[m]              on the bright side, cait. I'm looking at the things you pointed yesterday
12:42 tcohen[m]              heh
12:42 cait                   ... and I am stuck at an event related bug in JS... *sigh*
12:42 cait                   a series of non-ideal events
12:41 paulderscheid[m]       Quick question, does the instance plack.psgi get populated from /etc/koha/plack.psgi when creating new instances?
12:36 tcohen[m]              lucas expected to have better internet while on trip
12:36 cait                   I think it's not just the summer, we need more hands/minds/keyboards whatever
12:36 marcelr                Koha never delays?
12:35 tcohen[m]              is that the stable releases are delayed
12:35 Joubu                  [off] svc scripts and REST API are not reported yet
12:35 tcohen[m]              one problem we have
12:35 marcelr                we need to coordinate via the omnibus
12:35 cait                   and there are already some bugs for different modules it looks like
12:35 marcelr                all eyes are on tcohen
12:35 cait                   to it...
12:34 cait                   so make sure you link to tit
12:34 tcohen[m]              hopefully I do it right, and we can use it
12:34 marcelr                tcohen[m]++
12:34 cait                   we alsready said that we'd use the frmework one as omnibus
12:34 tcohen[m]              I will work on one today
12:34 cait                   marcelr: that's why I said I'll wait for the first patches - so i can see how it's done
12:34 tcohen[m]              t
12:34 tcohen[m]              and works on i
12:34 tcohen[m]              files a bug,
12:34 tcohen[m]              picks a Koha module
12:34 tcohen[m]              each of us runs the tests
12:34 Joubu                  opac is not that important
12:34 cait                   then circ... move from most used to the least used
12:33 tcohen[m]              what if
12:33 cait                   maybe focus on opac first if that#s not done yet?
12:33 marcelr                and certainly not for one special day
12:33 marcelr                sure, but we could divide the work and then we do not wait for each other
12:33 Joubu                  we can fix the urgent ones, but it seems very hard to fix all csrf in Koha in August, during holidays, when not many of us are around
12:32 marcelr                you will find examples of that in the scripts that already fixed some places
12:32 marcelr                cait: you need to add a statement to generate token in the template (calling new method from Kyle) and you need to check the token in the controller script
12:28 cait                   I'd also feel better having it fixed because we might get in the focus more and more
12:28 cait                   I think ashimema also said they get a lot of pressure to fix it
12:27 marcelr                we should just get this fixed for 23.11
12:27 tcohen[m]              and fix it for good
12:27 tcohen[m]              and then we started thinking there could be other places, and better resurrect that work
12:26 tcohen[m]              I guess it is because someone found it could be use for remote code execution?
12:25 Joubu                  because we got 2 more reports
12:25 marcelr                wake up call
12:25 marcelr                due to the number of security reports
12:25 Joubu                  just wondering why it's more urgent now than before
12:24 tcohen[m]              you are complaining
12:24 marcelr                thats hard
12:24 Joubu                  yes, listen to me :D
12:24 marcelr                we should have fixed this 4 years ago
12:24 Joubu                  so it was 4 years ago
12:24 marcelr                this is really urgent Joubu
12:23 tcohen[m]              and he's not around
12:23 Joubu                  This has started 4 years ago, not sure why it's now urgent...
12:23 marcelr                he removed the token from Auth
12:23 marcelr                too
12:23 marcelr                but kyle made a change
12:23 cait                   right and i'd like to help and don't know how yet. great.
12:23 Joubu                  I won' have time for that in the next month
12:23 marcelr                if tcohen doesnt know, i certainly dont
12:22 tcohen[m]              right
12:22 cait                   ashimema is gone for 2 weeks
12:21 tcohen[m]              maybe marcelr, Joubu, ashimema or dcook can enlight us?
12:21 tcohen[m]              I don't know what to say cait
12:18 huginn                 04Bug 30524: is not accessible.
12:18 tcohen[m]              https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30524#c66
12:17 cait                   it sounded like you knew where the important comment was, I'll wait for the first patches to drop
12:16 tcohen[m]              But if the people involved don't act I'm not sure there's something I can do
12:16 tcohen[m]              I get it, cait
12:07 cait                   that's why I asked for someone to highlight the important bits at least
12:07 cait                   the problem is what is clear to you all, is not always to me, and finding the right comment in 66 is also not easy
12:06 cait                   I am sure there is a reason
12:06 cait                   it's not waht I meant
12:04 paulderscheid[m]       For personal stuff mostly
12:04 paulderscheid[m]       Hi tcohen, yeah got an Arch box lurking
11:44 tcohen[m]              I think dcook explained it in a comment
11:43 tcohen[m]              It is what it is
11:43 tcohen[m]              Kyle had personal stuff to deal with and hasn't showed up this week
11:33 cait                   I was really hoping for the tutorial/notes- maybe someone could important the best to read comments?
11:32 huginn                 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30524 is not accessible.
11:32 cait                   it looks like some bugs area already linked there: bug 30524
11:32 cait                   do we use the framework bug as the omnibus?
11:31 Joubu                  [off] there is also svc scripts and REST API (?)
11:31 tcohen[m]              I'd say a bug per area
11:30 cait                   not sure how granular we should go, haven't seen the test yet
11:30 cait                   and maybe some easy to search for naming - witht he name of the files or so?
11:29 marcelr                right
11:29 cait                   file, claim, patch
11:29 cait                   and file first, start working on it later
11:29 cait                   yeah an omnibus
11:29 cait                   bugzilla is not so great for managing lists etc.
11:29 marcelr                we could put it on a security omnibus ? if not already there
11:28 cait                   what do you suggest? we can not put it on the wiki etc. can we?
11:28 MatthewBlenkinsop[m]   I also can't do today but could do some later in the week
11:28 cait                   always happy about deduplication
11:28 marcelr                lets prevent duplication of work just like the scheduler bug; just wasted time
11:27 cait                   a tiny tutorial or 2 best practice for the cases you mentioned would be helpful
11:27 cait                   I am out for today, maybe I can make time tomorrow, for sure on Friday
11:26 marcelr                or
11:26 marcelr                module wise of whatever
11:26 cait                   to help
11:26 cait                   I was hoping for the docs
11:26 marcelr                we could make some kind of division?
11:25 marcelr                i wont tcohen
11:22 tcohen[m]              dcook explained what needs to be done on the umbrella bug
11:22 tcohen[m]              khall hasn't been able to write the small docs for that, but I think we can move forward regardless
11:21 tcohen[m]              Is anyone available to work on CSRF bugs today?
11:20 tcohen[m]              \o
11:20 marcelr                o/
11:05 tcohen[m]              Are you on arch?
08:50 paulderscheid[m]       Just tried it w/ VSCodium, definitely works
08:32 paulderscheid[m]       On Arch there's even an AUR package (which you can theoretically also use) https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/vscodium-bin-marketplace
08:31 paulderscheid[m]       You can add all extensions by adding the marketplace AFAIK
08:31 paulderscheid[m]       Joubu: https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/blob/master/DOCS.md#extensions-marketplace
08:30 paulderscheid[m]       morning #koha
08:14 cait                   good morning #koha
06:29 wahanui                hola, reiveune
06:29 reiveune               hello
06:25 Joubu                  https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/faq#_why-arent-the-remote-development-extensions-or-their-components-open-source
06:25 Joubu                  https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-remote-release/issues/1925
06:25 Joubu                  paulderscheid[m]: dev container's extension is not available in codium :-/
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