Time Nick Message 04:47 Zahid[m] hi, can some one guide me for long term running on what linux OS platform. i have to install koha 22.11 on server for long term. personally i have worked on ubuntu 22, and have beginner knowledge about Debian. i have not touch any other linux dist. i have tested the installation koha22.11 on both linux OS (ubuntu 20,22 and Debian 11.07). can some one guide me what is best for long term running and performance comparing these two linux on dell 04:47 Zahid[m] server? waiting for the experts 04:56 mtj hi Zahid[m], most koha devs recommend debian stable 04:57 mtj https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian 04:57 mtj https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_requirements_and_recommendations 05:08 Zahid[m] thanksmtj 06:34 reiveune hello 07:07 * cait waves 07:19 Joubu MatthewBlenkinsop[m]: did you have a look at the cypress failure? 07:20 Joubu tcohen, MatthewBlenkinsop[m] I've logged the cypress failure on bug 34301 07:20 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34301 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Agreements_spec.ts is failing randomly 08:16 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] I was looking again yesterday, I'm never getting a consistent error 08:17 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] Going to keep looking this morning 08:18 ashimema we don't have bug 33606 in 23.05.x or 22.11.x yet.. might that have something to play in it? 08:18 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33606 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to master , Access to ERM requires parameters => 'manage_sysprefs' 08:20 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] The failures are on master 08:21 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] I ran it 5 times yesterday - 2 times it passed with no errors and the other 3 it failed, all with different errors 08:24 ashimema weird 08:24 Joubu @later tell tcohen beware on bug 33745 - only one follow-up needs to be pushed 08:24 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 08:25 Joubu MatthewBlenkinsop[m]: which errors? 08:25 Joubu the one on 34301? 08:28 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] I ran it again just now, got two errors: 08:28 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] cy.wait() timed out waiting 5000ms for the 2nd request to the route: getActiveAgreements (line 196) 08:28 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] Timed out retrying after 10000ms: Expected to find content: 'first license name' within the element: <span.vs__selected> but never did. (line 516) 08:28 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] So both different to the one in 34301 08:32 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] Second run - both of those pass this time 08:32 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] New error - Timed out retrying after 10000ms: Expected to find content: 'agreement name' within the element: <span.vs__selected> but never did. (line 525) 08:41 Joubu MatthewBlenkinsop[m]: we are talking about master? 08:42 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] Yes I'm testing on master 08:44 Joubu it's passing consistently for me :-/ 08:45 Joubu One thing I've missed however is to rebuild the JS files however since I have checked out master this morning! 08:45 Joubu trying again 08:45 Joubu s/however// 08:45 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] I've just tried rebuilding as well to see if thats the issue 08:49 Joubu keeps passing for me... 08:50 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] Its passing for me now as well 08:50 ashimema Heisenbug! 08:52 Joubu MatthewBlenkinsop[m]: do you run the tests inside ktd or using cypress GUI? 08:52 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] cypress gui 08:52 Joubu did you run `yarn install` as well between the 2 sessions? 08:53 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] No just yarn js:build 08:53 Joubu too bad, that would have been an upstream bug if you did :D 08:54 Joubu ok, let's switch to something else and see if it pops up again later! 08:56 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] Sounds like a plan, cypress tests seem to be passing on the latest jenkins runs 08:57 Joubu MatthewBlenkinsop[m]: we don't know, keep in mind that cypress tests are only run if the other tests (perl) passed 08:57 Joubu https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/2590/consoleText - you can see the "Test Summary Report" from prove, there is nothing from cypress after 09:03 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] Ah good point, I'll keep an eye on them 09:34 ashimema 8 more days of commits to go through.. woop woop! 09:34 paulderscheid[m] Hi #koha 09:34 paulderscheid[m] Does the api do automatic conversions to UTC or am I losing my mind here? 09:40 tundunf hi all! :) 09:42 tundunf does anyone know the limit on the number of records that can be imported into Koha at once with the Stage MARC records for import tool? 09:44 Joubu paulderscheid[m]: yes 09:46 paulderscheid[m] Thanks, found that out the hard way :_) 09:46 Joubu is for Koha or outside? 09:46 Joubu there is "33804: Use as_due_date to display due dates", pushed few days ago 09:46 Joubu with a 'no_tz_adjust' flag 09:49 ashimema cait around? 09:49 wahanui cait around is cait cait1 cait2 cait3 cait4 cait5 09:49 cait yes 09:49 ashimema paulderscheid I thought we converted to the tz in your koha-conf actually 09:49 ashimema bug 26862 09:49 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26862 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to master , MARC21 530 is missing from staff interface and has no label 09:49 ashimema want that backported cait ? 09:50 ashimema a lot of our api datehandling is still rather screwy 09:51 paulderscheid[m] It's for a plugin. I thought to myself, let's convert the dates to UTC (in JS) for the db so we can support different timezones... and then I always lost time in the api responses because the already converted UTC dates were delivered w/ my tz offset. 09:51 paulderscheid[m] Which is actually great (if you know about it). 09:53 cait ashimema: gey area, it's clean-up 09:53 cait I would not mind having it backported for my next merge with stanard XSLT, but we are using our own... 09:53 cait it got signed off pretty fast, maybe other libraries would be happy 09:54 ashimema okies.. it's early in the cycle.. I reckon we can get away with it 😜 09:54 ashimema I'll port it 09:55 ashimema new question 09:55 ashimema sort1 and sort2 in patron details.. they don't HAVE to be linked to an AV do they? 09:55 ashimema I can't remember.. 09:55 cait no 09:55 cait it's optional 09:55 ashimema whilst backporting some code I see that when they added it to the patron search pages they assumed it's always attached to an av 09:55 cait free text if not linked, AV if linked 09:55 ashimema at least that's what it appears to be to me 09:56 cait we broadly discussed that on antoher bug with the same author I think 09:56 cait if you have no AV values, how does it present? 09:56 ashimema [% PROCESS 'av-build-dropbox.inc' name="sort1_filter", category="Bsort1", empty=1, size = 20 %] 09:56 ashimema does that do something different to what I expect? 10:24 aw-bib[m] hello! did anyone happen to configure koha with the dfn-aai (a pretty german thingy) and are there any pointers for this? 10:29 oleonard o/ 10:46 marcelr o/ 10:54 cait aw-bib[m]: we did 10:54 cait aw-bib[m]: but it was not me, my coworker is the expert, do you have a specific question? 10:55 cait ashimema: possibly not - can you file a bug? 10:55 cait it could just reuse the code from the patron form really 11:02 oleonard Our first day in production with 22.11! 11:03 cait good luck ;) 11:13 aw-bib[m] cait: (dfn-aai) basically, I am looking for some how-to/tutorial/instructions on this front. do you have anything handy? (german or english) 11:24 marcelr interesting oleonard 11:24 marcelr we are planning to go in september ;) 11:26 cait aw-bib[m]: i think nothing specific, but I know we followed the wiki instructions 11:26 cait you'll want to start with that: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Shibboleth_Configuration 11:27 cait re 22.11 as soon as possible for us.. but I got to fix some stuff still 11:27 aw-bib[m] ok. thank you, again. 11:27 cait if you get stuck, i can try and ask here 11:51 Joubu marcelr: 34303 is not working for me 11:52 Joubu marcelr: https://paste.koha-community.org/23779 11:52 Joubu you need to chomp 11:54 marcelr ok lazy tested 11:54 marcelr will fix 11:58 Joubu marcelr: we need to loop of perl files and call critic_ok instead of all_critic_ok, otherwise we could run perlcritic on files that are not in the git index 11:58 Joubu loop over* 11:59 marcelr replaced 11:59 marcelr Joubu: I am passing the dirs from the git repo 11:59 marcelr i can use all therefore 11:59 Joubu a dir i 11:59 Joubu a dir in git index can contain files that are not in the git index 11:59 Joubu touch C4/Foo.pm 12:00 marcelr ah yes 12:00 marcelr will change status for now 12:11 marcelr Joubu: all_critic still filters the perl files if you pass all git files btw 12:11 marcelr checked 2763 files of about 8000 12:12 Joubu good idea then! 12:16 Joubu marcelr: I would remove the if @files 12:16 Joubu if there is no files there is something wrong 12:16 marcelr sure 12:17 marcelr done 12:21 marcelr kidclamp here? 12:21 kidclamp Hi Marcel 12:21 marcelr hi kidclamp 12:21 marcelr could you reply on 33444 comment5 ? 12:21 marcelr only thing pending there 12:22 Joubu thx, marcelr! 12:22 marcelr you too 12:23 marcelr didnt see that warn btw 12:23 andrisi hi everyone. any pointers on how to import list of journal issues held for a serials? I have thusands of journal issues listed in another system, and would like to bring them over to Koha. MARC records for the journals import just fine, but I don't see how import holdings. thanks for any pointers! 12:23 kidclamp I was looking this morning, but not at computer 12:23 kidclamp My best guess is I was adding something I think we missed in 32013 12:24 marcelr bug 32013 12:24 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32013 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matt.blenkinsop, RESOLVED FIXED, Autorenewals is effectively a bulk action and should be treated as such 12:24 kidclamp But if you want to remove that line and make a new bug I can look deeper when back in office 12:25 kidclamp I already have one sneaky bug fix in there 12:25 marcelr we should then use the param: return 1 if defined $first && ( $first =~ m{ \A [#]!.*perl }xms ); 12:25 marcelr o no bad copy 12:25 marcelr wait 12:25 marcelr my $skip_record_index = shift in the cron 12:25 marcelr seems to be unused ? 12:26 cait andrisi: you can add them as items using 952 (see manual), bit if you want to have them as issues on subscriptions it's much more complicated 12:26 marcelr forget that kidclamp reading something not there 12:26 marcelr wrong part of code :) 12:27 marcelr i would prefer to remove it now 12:27 kidclamp Ok 12:27 andrisi cait: thanks, will have a look 12:27 marcelr but no blocker 12:27 marcelr just say it 12:27 marcelr we should have off'ed this irc chat 12:27 kidclamp I do think it's needed, but I think doing a new bug with tests is probably better 12:27 marcelr ok 12:27 marcelr i will edit your patch now 12:28 marcelr and pqa 12:28 kidclamp Thank you 12:28 marcelr and you are welcome to qa mine :) 12:28 andrisi cait: would it be possible to do this with directly into the database? I'd write a conversion script for this maybe. 12:29 cait yes, you can add directly to items 12:29 cait but you need to set the correct biblionumber and reindex when you are done (so the items become searchable) 12:30 andrisi altough it's a one off thing, so the MARC field would work too... it's just that the holdings are in a separate system, so I'd need to create combined MARC records 12:30 cait you coudl also do a holdings note 12:30 cait if you don#t need them all separate 12:30 cait 866 maybe 12:31 andrisi I do need details, we have a very thorough database on journal issues (it's a national library...) 12:31 cait oh interesting 12:31 cait where are you from? 12:32 andrisi Hungary 12:32 cait very cool 12:32 andrisi just testing Koha to see if it works for them, but it's more like a pirate thing :-) 12:32 cait ah 12:32 cait there are some national libraries using Koha 12:32 cait IIRC finland and greece and some african countries 12:32 cait hm and philippines 12:33 cait at least if nothing changed 12:33 andrisi yes, I checked, and come to the conclusion it would work in Hungary too 12:34 andrisi they are trying to develop theri own ILS, but it's a futile and very expensive 12:34 andrisi endeavour 12:34 cait yes, I'd expect it to be 12:38 oleonard Developing their own ILS... "How hard can it be?" :D 12:39 andrisi yes, bit time stupitity... I'm more into modern discovery interfaces, but redoing all the very complex basics of an ILS - horrible idea when we have Koha and Evergreen 12:39 andrisi big time 12:41 oleonard andrisi: You're located in Hungary? 12:41 andrisi yes 12:42 oleonard I visited your capital city many years ago and found it lovely. Your language I found confounding :D 12:42 andrisi almost everyone says that :-) it is a nice place if you don't speak the language, and don't have to deal with the politics of everything :-( 12:43 oleonard Yeah :( 12:47 andrisi I have to go now, but will get back if I achieve anything Koha-related in Hungary :-) 12:47 oleonard I'll be very interested to hear about it andrisi ! 12:48 aw-bib[m] dito. especially if you can handle the many journal volumes. (a longer standing issue on our front) 12:48 andrisi are you mostly developers or librarians here? 12:48 oleonard Mostly developers (or developer-librarians) 12:49 ashimema A mix.. but mostly devs in here 12:49 ashimema and support company people.. writing docs and helping maintain the community 🙂 12:50 andrisi it's a really good model... as I understand libraries sponsor specific features they need and then you add them I suppose. from the release notes. 12:50 oleonard Yes 12:51 ashimema yup, mostly 🙂 12:51 ashimema there's a lot of stuff behind the scenes to ensure quality control and minimal regressions 12:52 ashimema I always like the terminology ByWater use.. they don't have 'customers' the have 'partners' 12:52 andrisi is it public how much they usually spend on this? like how far $10K would go. 12:52 ashimema it really instils what Koha is all about for me.. your partnering with companies, individuals and the community to get the best possible ILS for you 🙂 12:53 andrisi yes, I do see it's a quite complex system 12:53 oleonard andrisi: ByWater has a page that will give you some idea for how their company works: https://devs.bywatersolutions.com/ 12:53 andrisi built over many years... I looked it like a decade ago last time, and even then it seemed like a great model 12:53 ashimema there are various devs from around the world.. you could go for one of the bigger companies.. like me and my team from ptfs-europe (based in england), oy ByWater solutions (from the US) for example 12:54 ashimema or you could approach one of the individual devs that work on Koha too.. Like Joubu.. 12:54 ashimema Joubu's great btw.. we send contracts his way when we're swamped.. he's been in Koha forever 12:55 Joubu I am not that old :D 12:55 marcelr lol 12:55 andrisi onleonard: thanks for the link 12:55 ashimema you'll get more than one persons eye on the code regardless.. as we have community policies to ensure we have unbiased review 12:56 andrisi could you recommend any other pages, blog posts highlighting this development structure? 12:56 andrisi of Koha 12:57 ashimema https://koha-community.org/about/release-schedule/ - is a good brief summary of our release cycle and development at a glance 13:02 andrisi I lived in the UK for many years, just got citizenship :-) 13:04 ashimema Oh, cool 🙂 13:08 cait Joubu: only a little old *runs* 13:11 andrisi thanks and bye guys, I'll be back if... keep up the good work! 13:11 oleonard Thanks andrisi, nice to meet you! 13:12 ashimema do we have any guidance on where to use select2 and where not to? 13:12 * ashimema is hunting that holey grail of consistency again 13:13 oleonard ashimema: Not that I know of 13:14 oleonard Theoretically we wouldn't want to use it everywhere because it would fractionally slow load/rendering time, but I don't know how noticeable that would be for most users 13:14 ashimema can you think of a reason not to use it everywhere? 13:14 ashimema haha.. you read my mind 13:16 Joubu it should be used when the number of options can be several dozens (almost everywhere?) 13:17 Joubu @later tell caroline yes!! 13:17 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 13:17 Joubu oops 13:17 Joubu hope she will come back soon 13:17 oleonard Another idea would be to try to make styling more consistent between Select2 and regular selects 13:19 ashimema Yeah.. I wondered about that as an option too 13:20 ashimema it's includes/av-build-dropbox.inc 13:20 ashimema that got me thinking about it 13:20 ashimema I wondered if that aught to be a select2.. or select2 styled 13:20 oleonard The downside of that might be that users would expect to find functionality in regular selects that isn't there 13:20 ashimema fair 13:20 * ashimema isn't entirely aware of what select2 droped/brings to the table 13:22 oleonard filtering, one-click clearing, possibly AJAX-population 13:23 oleonard And then there's the possibility of switching to Select2 for autocomplete 13:24 ashimema indeed 13:24 ashimema lots of cool stuff 13:46 cait It's nice to see the patches trickle down again 13:46 ashimema 🙂 13:48 ashimema marcelr around? 13:48 ashimema @later tell marcelr are you on gitlab? 13:48 marcelr sure 13:48 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 13:48 ashimema lol 13:48 ashimema I was too quick 13:48 ashimema thinking about qa tools not getting enough eyes 13:48 marcelr i have a gitlab account somewhere not used that often 13:48 ashimema https://gitlab.com/koha-community/qa-test-tools/-/merge_requests/58 13:49 ashimema I was going to add you into the 'reviewers' as a way to get more attention to changes we're proposing 13:49 marcelr think it is a private account 13:51 emlam ashimema++ for blazing through all those backports :) 13:52 cait yes, ashimema++ 13:53 Joubu ashimema: with #70 and #69 we are going to have all xt tests running for every qa run. Is that correct? 13:53 ashimema well.. with 69 only we wont 13:53 ashimema for 70 I think we need a bit more consideration 13:55 emlam btw, cait - are you still looking for feedback on bugs 33872 and 34117? I did some code-diving on those and added some info in the comments 13:55 cait I did, thanks! 13:55 cait was hoping maybe some fellow QA person with better code reading would take them 13:55 cait reading comprehension? 13:55 ashimema code comprehension 13:55 emlam haha fair enough 13:56 cait ok, we'll take code comprehension and volunteer ashimema :) 13:56 ashimema lol 13:58 cait just took a look at your note emlam, I definitely think ashimema is our person for this 13:58 * cait tries to play the QAM card but finds it has been hidden somewhere 13:59 ashimema er... 13:59 ashimema I can try to fit it in 13:59 ashimema just working on QA tools at the minute for the RM 😜 13:59 ashimema he trumps your QAM card I'm afraid cait.. haha 14:00 ashimema only jsut though 🤬 14:00 cait that's a silly game *throws over the table* 14:00 cait ;) 14:00 cait nah, I am not a sore loser - what are you working on? 14:00 cait the tidiness stuff? 14:01 ashimema nope 14:02 ashimema two issues Tomas raised 14:02 ashimema turning on '--run-tests' by default and instead having a '--no-tests' flag to turn them off 14:02 cait caroline: around? 14:02 ashimema and.. 14:02 caroline cait, yes 14:02 Joubu emlam: 34117 - I've added a comment there 14:02 cait I am working on bug 34170 - o rmore trying your workaround 14:02 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34170 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Ability to add record/order line specific credits 14:02 cait https://inlibro-com.translate.goog/knowledge-base/ajouter-un-credit-pour-un-document-retourne/?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp :) 14:02 ashimema being a bit more clever about tests we run.. i.e. don't just run test files that have changed, but rather try to find tests that match module names that have changed and run those too 14:03 cait when I enter the order, the Total won't populate for me 14:03 cait oh... silly me, need a quantity 14:03 Joubu emlam: heh just noticed your comment actually! 14:03 emlam Joubu - thanks for the additional input 14:03 cait emlam: I had a feeling it didn't look right to me, if that makes sense... I am not always able to tell why that is yet 14:03 emlam ! 14:03 caroline cait, still working on that eh? 14:04 cait yeah, it's important to them and I think it's agreat workaround actually 14:04 cait I think we should make it more 'official' 14:04 emlam this is why I'm not on the QA team :) 14:04 caroline yes definitely we should have something official for credits 14:05 cait I wonder how we could best built it 14:05 cait emlam: what is your probably totally invalid reason? 14:05 caroline I think I commented on the bug 14:05 emlam cait - for not being on the QA team? 14:05 cait yes :) 14:05 caroline bug 34170 14:06 cait caroline: sorry, bad focus, I'll completely work through it first now 14:07 caroline no problem, I know it works so if you're stumped let me know 14:07 caroline the translation might not be 100% correct 14:07 emlam lol entirely because I've only even known Koha existed since October. But I would definitely be open to it when I have a better handle on the codebase :) 14:07 cait i have the screenshots too, the translation seems actually pretty good 14:08 cait emlam: there is always somewhat easier stuff to look at too and it certainly gives you a tour of the codebase :) 14:09 Joubu you can still PQA when you have 100% trust in the patches 14:10 Joubu let's say 95% ;) 14:10 emlam cait: I mean, if that's good enough, then sure :O 14:10 cait we always need more hands 14:11 cait or people 14:13 emlam all right then, sign me up! 14:13 Joubu or people with more hands 14:13 cait Joubu: that's the picture I had in my head 14:14 cait ashimema: if we want to add emlam, which wii page do we edit now? :) 14:14 cait emlam: beware, I am sending a weekly email where I try to direct people to bad or old bugs 14:15 emlam cait: Fine by me! That's easier for me than digging through the whole Bugzilla list to be honest 14:16 cait QA list is a little long right now, you can jut pick waht you feel comfortable with - in general bugs before enh, old before new. But as you are just starting out, don't worry about it too much 14:16 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_23.11 < could you add yourself here with a note maybe? 14:16 cait I'll take case of the other page - but then it looks like it's your free will :D 14:18 emlam lol 14:18 ashimema yup.. it's there for 'volunteering' and then https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_Teams once voted in usually 14:18 ashimema more than happy for an addition mid/early cycle of course 14:19 cait yep, I think I'll pretend that I can decide that as QAM 14:19 ashimema we'll also want to update the Koha team yaml files in release tools and koha itself 😜 14:19 cait and with some votes from QA team present ;) 14:19 emlam uh...let me see if I can get into the wiki 14:19 ashimema +1 14:19 * ashimema votes yes 14:19 cait if yo don't have an account et, let me know, i can moderate it 14:21 cait there is also. https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_QA - I put some notes there 14:21 emlam I do, but I use it infrequently enough that I keep forgetting my password, and the reset password emails still don't make it to me for some reason. 14:21 emlam I didn't try that hard the last time I tried to get in, though, so let me see if I can find my password somewhere in my brain or my notes before someone spends the time to reset it manually 14:22 emlam thanks for the reference link also :) 14:22 cait ok :) 14:22 cait caroline: did I tell you recently that you are genious? :) 14:22 caroline no but I'll take it :D 14:23 cait caroline++ 14:24 * caroline is keeping this in her "moral support" folder for when she is feeling down 14:24 cait there is a tiny glitch, but I will check if I can fix it 14:25 cait if the actual cost is negative, we still show the estiamted price on the acq tab 14:25 cait I'll see if i can fix hat 14:25 cait I made the price appear there int he first place, so ti's probably my fault anyway 14:27 cait <td>[% IF ( order.unitprice_tax_included > 0 ) %][% order.unitprice_tax_included | $Price %][% ELSE %][% order.ecost_tax_included | $Price %][% END %] 14:27 cait <td>[% order.order_internalnote | html %]</td> 14:27 caroline meeting bbl 14:31 emlam cait - no luck. I haven't really used the old account, though, so I'm just going to make a new one if you can moderate me 14:31 emlam as I recall it was an entire ordeal resetting my password last time, and thd was the only one with permissions to do it 14:31 cait it will try and send you the new pw :( 14:32 cait I can check what I can do - what is your user? 14:32 emlam Emlam - same as here but with a capital 14:32 marcelr who is Emlam? 14:33 cait marcelr: new QA team member? :) 14:33 marcelr ok, but who is he or she actually ? 14:34 cait you could just ask her 14:34 marcelr i did ^ 14:34 cait emlam: it tells me you already rquested a reset - nothing in spam etc? 14:35 emlam Emily Lamancusa. I work at Montgomery County Public Libraries in Maryland, USA, doing both sysadmin and developer stuff 14:35 emlam cait - nope :( 14:35 cait maybe if you want (and haven't yet, still stuck in the admin parts): IRC regulars? 14:35 cait IRC regulars? 14:35 wahanui i think IRC regulars is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars 14:35 cait ... and when we got yoru wiki account going 14:36 emlam I did put myself on that list, though I haven't really filled out my bio at all (I suppose I should) 14:38 cait you are not blocked or anything 14:38 cait tcohen: it looks like email might be broken on the wiki (password reset requests not going through) 14:38 cait i think someone else reported that too a few days ago 14:39 emlam it definitely was broken at one point. I thought it had been fixed since then, but maybe not? 14:39 marcelr ok thx emlam i saw your name pass by in Bugzilla :) 14:40 emlam :) 14:41 cait sorry, I don't seem to be able to fix it :( 14:42 emlam thanks for trying! 14:42 cait do you want me to edit the wiki? 14:43 marcelr cu later 14:44 emlam yes please! 14:45 Joubu oleonard: Don't we have a bug report for the bootstrap 4->5 upgrade? 14:46 cait ashimema: added to both wiki pages - bug for the yaml ? 14:46 oleonard Joubu: Actually I don't think so 14:46 oleonard The bug report is in my head 14:47 emlam thank you! :D 14:48 Joubu oleonard: it was on the 23.05 roadmap, it's where I saw it I guess 14:49 Joubu how big is it? There was as well "moving staff interface to bootstrap 5" - I bet this one is a lot of work 14:53 oleonard Joubu: ? 14:54 cait emlam: we'll finish your onboarding soon, but consider yoruself 'hired' - welcome on the team :) 14:54 cait I got to leave now - cya all later! 14:54 emlam sounds good :D 14:54 emlam see you later cait! 14:55 Joubu oleonard: https://annuel.framapad.org/p/Roadmap_for_Koha_v23.05 14:55 Joubu there is: "Upgrade the OPAC templates to Bootstrap 5" and "Upgrade the staff interface templates to Bootstrap 5" 14:56 Joubu do you know how big/how much time it is needed for those 2 topics? 14:57 oleonard No idea. The template wrapper bugs are all intended to make the process easier. 14:57 Joubu ok 14:57 Joubu not something for 23.11 however? 14:58 Joubu ashimema, MatthewBlenkinsop[m]: on bug 33974 14:58 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33974 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to oldstable , Add ability to search biblios endpoint any biblioitem attribute 14:58 Joubu API only addition.. choosing to backport to 23.05.x series. 14:58 Joubu Pushed to 23.05.x for the next release 14:58 Joubu Pushed to oldstable for 22.11.x 14:58 Joubu that's... confusing! why backporting enh? 14:58 oleonard Joubu: I don't think a Bootstrap upgrade for 23.11 is a realistic goal 14:59 Joubu ashimema, MatthewBlenkinsop[m]: forget that, you are the ones who decide anyway ;) 15:00 Joubu oleonard: ok, thanks 15:00 ashimema ? 15:01 Joubu it does not bring anything, only possible regressions 15:01 ashimema I think that one I talked to tcohen about if memory serves.. 15:01 ashimema ByWater were keen for the API side for something 15:02 ashimema and as it's behind the scenes I felt it was OK in this case 15:02 ashimema you are right though.. we certainly need to watch out for regressions 15:16 oleonard First day with the new staff interface, everyone panics "Where is batch item deletion?!!" 15:16 oleonard I TOLD them ahead of time :) 15:17 emlam oleonard: lol same 15:18 emlam I had lukeG add a custom CSS reminder to our tools page for that exact reason 15:19 emlam (or rather, we don't actually upgrade till this Thursday, but I got questions when folks previewed the update) 15:21 oleonard I don't understand what Bug 34072 was about... Does anyone remember how to reproduce the problem? 15:21 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34072 normal, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Pushed to oldstable , Holds queue search interface hidden on small screens 15:21 oleonard I'm seeing some unwanted visual side-effects 15:22 tcohen Joubu: can you run the koha-meetings script on the dev meeting 15:41 oleonard tcohen do you remember what Bug 34072 was about? 15:41 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34072 normal, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Pushed to oldstable , Holds queue search interface hidden on small screens 19:49 reiveune bye