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21:32 cait :)
21:28 aleisha i presented at a conference in wellington last week, about open source software culture - thought it may be of interest to people here :) https://youtu.be/wSa_nABUypw
20:59 * cait waves
20:56 aleisha hello
18:18 caroline Joubu++ #being very patient with me and my ktd problemssss :)
16:06 ashimema it's been a loooong day
16:06 * ashimema contemplates coffee, tea or beer before starting the next tasks...
16:05 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
16:05 ashimema @later tell cait sorry I had to dive into a meeting
16:01 aude_c[m] * waves
16:00 cait cya later/tomorrow!
16:00 cait got to go... thunder is rolling in and rain will follow
15:53 aude_c[m] :/
15:52 cait ... would have loved to feed it new manual files heh
15:52 aude_c[m] Ah
15:52 cait ther eis no data in it yet
15:51 aude_c[m] Is there? I know some French people who may be interested...
15:34 Joubu well, there is a test install somewhere
15:34 Joubu it's done, it needs to be tested..
15:33 cait ... same question: who doe sit?
15:24 Joubu time to switch to weblate and start from scratch...
15:22 oleonard caroline++
15:20 cait yeah :( thx for triyng
15:16 ashimema Bernardo really is the sticking point.. none of us CAN do it.
15:16 aude_c[m] And I don't understand enough to help
15:16 cait and we do have people asking for the updated manual files or wanting to help translate
15:15 cait I just CANT do it myself, happy to test and all but yeah, I am stuck
15:15 ashimema and I just don't have time to take on yet another thing I'm afraid ☹️
15:15 cait and then with the planned update to 22.11 we couldn't even translate :(
15:15 cait and it's not as good in 20.11... although we did translate, butnoone updates manuals
15:15 ashimema I put loads of work into getting translations working.. then loads of it got undone ☹️
15:14 cait it's really bad because we put a lot of work into an almost complete translation for 18.11
15:14 ashimema 😂
15:14 cait I am almos there ashimema, almost there...
15:14 ashimema s/able/want/
15:13 ashimema I volunteer to fly to Argentina to meet with Bernardo.. anyone able to sponsor me?
15:13 aude_c[m] ashimema lol. We'd better recruit more Documenters sharp-ish!
15:12 aude_c[m] Translations: we all have issues and questions about how translations work and none of us are really sure what's happening. When / who is it best to ask / discuss ?
15:11 ashimema lets make everyone wait for docs before they get Koha 😜
15:11 ashimema putting it out there.. could we just freeze mid cycle and wait for docs to get in line before actually releases so docs release and koha release coincide 😜
15:10 aude_c[m] Yes. On the one manual we decided to get more comments by sending a message to the Koha mailing list. We haven't made a decision yet.
15:10 cait translation wise... I am a bit worried about one manual and also from user perspective, but I'll wait and see
15:09 cait with regular updates
15:09 cait and we really raelly need a working translation workflow
15:09 cait aude_c[m]: if you decide on one manual... we need to change things in Koha as well, please keep in mind
15:08 cait .. it did take long
15:01 aude_c[m] hehe! So did I :D
14:59 marie-luce I've improvised ;)
14:55 aude_c[m] Thank you so much marie-luce for managing the meeting here!
14:55 aude_c[m] oops, took too long to write this :D
14:54 aude_c[m] #action aude_c to plan. krimsonkharne interested too
14:54 huginn Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2023/documentation_meeting_12_july_2023.2023-07-12-14.04.log.html
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14:54 marie-luce #endmeeting - End the meeting
14:54 aude_c[m] #topic Documentation how-to sessions
14:50 aude_c[m] #info The meeting after this is scheduled for Wednesday 29 November 2023, 14:00 UTC
14:50 aude_c[m] #info The meeting after this is scheduled for Wednesday 25 October 2023, 11:00 UTC
14:50 aude_c[m] #info The meeting after this is scheduled for Wednesday 27 September 2023, 14:00 UTC
14:50 aude_c[m] #topic Planning meetings for the rest of the cycle
14:48 marie-luce # action aude_c will write a newsletter to explain benefits of keeping only one manual version
14:39 marie-luce #topic How to use only one Manual version
14:34 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34076 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , [ALTERNATE] [DOCS] Automated screenshots using Cypress.io testing framework
14:34 marie-luce #action all try the test plan in bug 34076 and give feedback
14:31 marie-luce #action joubu is asking the documentation team to try the test plan bug34076 and give some feedback
14:26 huginn 04Bug 34076: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , [ALTERNATE] [DOCS] Automated screenshots using Cypress.io testing framework
14:26 marie-luce #link https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34076 Automated screenshots
14:25 marie-luce #topic Automated screenshots using cypress studio
14:22 caroline I added a comment to the bug with what we discussed
14:20 aude_c[m] #topic What the team has been working on
14:18 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29063 major, P5 - low, ---, david, In Discussion , [DOCS] Manual: Translation issue with repeated strings in system preferences
14:18 aude_c[m] #info Discussed bug 29063. More questions for translation.
14:09 aude_c[m] #topic Review of action points
14:08 aude_c[m] #info Alexander, PTFS Europe
14:06 lucyvh[m] #info Lucy Vaux-Harvey, PTFS Europe
14:05 marie-luce #info Marie-Luce Laflamme, inlibro, Montreal
14:05 krimsonkharne[m] #info Philip Orr, LMSCloud GmbH, Germany
14:05 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
14:05 marie-luce #topic Introduction
14:05 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart
14:05 aude_c[m] #info Aude Charillon, PTFS Europe, UK
14:05 aude_c[m] #topic Introductions
14:05 aude_c[m] #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_meeting_12_July_2023 Today's agenda
14:04 huginn Current chairs: aude_c[m] caroline marie-luce
14:04 aude_c[m] #chair caroline
14:04 huginn Current chairs: aude_c[m] marie-luce
14:04 aude_c[m] #chair marie-luce
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14:04 aude_c[m] #startmeeting Documentation meeting 12 July 2023
14:02 aude_c[m] Ok!
14:01 cait I'll miss docs meeting probably again, having another meeting, if it doesn't take long I'll try to join later
13:59 aude_c[m] You're welcome to join! :) Details of the meeting are at: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_meeting_12_July_2023
13:59 aude_c[m] Hello, just a little warning that we're having a Documentation meeting starting in a few minutes. We'll be using Jitsi Meet for discussions but also this channel to record minutes.
13:55 caroline I'll CC you on the bug and you can see if it looks ok
13:54 cait but I like including the patron because it helps with context there too
13:54 cait I'd say at first glance, patron categories even a little shorter
13:54 cait should be about the same
13:50 caroline So not too long?
13:50 cait thx for asking :)
13:50 cait Alle Bibliotheken Alle Medientypen Alle Benutzertypen
13:49 cait about the same , a little longer maybe
13:47 caroline It's just that the word for "All" changes in French depending on what it refers to, so I was adding context, but oleonard suggested changing the label in English
13:46 caroline cait, if I change "All" to "All libraries", "All item types", "All patron categories", etc. Is it too long in German?
13:45 cait i might have just missed him
13:45 cait oleonard-away: reading back now?
13:28 Joubu ok got it!
13:27 marcelr there are two types of records in this table
13:27 marcelr Joubu i need the NULL for limit, unit and type for the domain member records
13:27 oleonard My other comment is that I wouldn't say 'All libraries/branches' because we already standardize on 'libraries'. I would omit the '/branches'
13:26 caroline I'll check what it looks like in german...
13:25 caroline If you look at it, it now says All libraries, All item types, etc. rather than just All
13:25 caroline I know Bernardo did it for the item search form
13:24 caroline I was planning on submitting alternate patches maybe and QA/RM would decide what they like best
13:24 caroline Yes, I had thought of that alternative too
13:23 oleonard I was going to see what cait thought of that too since she speaks a language with notoriously long words :)
13:22 oleonard Maybe not on the Circ & Fine rules page since screen space is at a premium
13:22 oleonard caroline: I'm thinking that in a lot of those cases we could just change the actual label to "All libraries"
13:20 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31736 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, caroline.cyr-la-rose, NEW , Context for translation: "All"
13:20 oleonard Hi caroline, I was looking at Bug 31736
13:17 caroline oleonard, I just got in, did you get an answer?
13:16 Joubu swagger specs accept null/empty for limit, unit and type but the UI does not
13:15 marcelr will run it
13:14 Joubu perltidy output on MailDomainLimits.t make it definitely better
13:12 marcelr ok
13:12 Joubu will become + $('#toolbar').on( "click", 'a.add', function (e) { e.preventDefault();
13:12 Joubu + $('#toolbar').on( "click", 'a.add', function () {
13:12 Joubu you need to get the event and call preventDefault() on it
13:11 Joubu preventDefault will prevent the scrollbar to jump at the top when you click on a button or link with a onclick event
13:10 marcelr where do you miss preventDefault ?
13:09 marcelr my own tidy is better lol
13:09 marcelr i did perl tidy once and again on parts..
13:09 marcelr it should be nice to do it again and compare ;)
13:08 Joubu you should have written that in Vue
13:08 Joubu some preventDefault() calls also missing
13:07 Joubu you should perltidy perl code ;)
13:06 marcelr ouch
13:06 Joubu restart_all fixed it!
13:05 marcelr i added 100s of recs while testing in the meantime
13:05 Joubu reloaded plack, should be enough
13:05 marcelr restart all etc ?
13:05 Joubu I don't have one yet
13:04 marcelr you cant add two fooo's ?
13:04 Joubu Domain name = foo then save
13:04 Joubu when clicking "New member"
13:04 Joubu marcelr: Modifying limit for 'fooo' failed. (Status 409 - Conflict: duplicate domain name.)
12:54 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33537 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Move domain limits from koha-conf to staff SMTP configuration
12:54 marcelr bug 33537 is ready for testing
12:03 oleonard Yep!
12:01 cait sorry in meeting now - try again later? :)
11:56 oleonard cait can I ask your opinion on something?
11:55 oleonard caroline around?
11:51 ashimema I really do need to go into a meeting now though.
11:51 ashimema but we can try
11:51 ashimema I think it's all serverside.. and there's really not much to go on
11:49 cait ashimema: if you want and if it helps... let's take a look togehter later via screenshare? Maybe i can spot something missing
11:45 cait https://translate.koha-community.org/de/manual22.11/searchingpreferences.po
11:45 cait searchingpreferences.po
11:44 cait i should bein the manual file corresponding with the chapter
11:43 ashimema we need Bernardo
11:43 ashimema brr.. I don't know
11:43 ashimema and where is that in the source
11:41 cait ashimema: that was my testing example from 22.11 branch: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/commit/83d34736b5f8a3ab39e80036ae8f12a4ebb06e86
11:40 cait it looks so promising
11:40 cait yeah, i just wonder maybe we missed to update an option ro so?
11:40 ashimema bbiab
11:40 wahanui meetings are https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings
11:40 ashimema meetings
11:40 cait can you find it in the files?
11:40 cait SearchWithISSNVariations is a new pref that was added to 22.11 branch - I can't find it in pootle
11:40 ashimema and I did that based on command history I dug through from the last time someone did it for 22.05
11:39 ashimema I documented what I did here tcohen: https://tree.taiga.io/project/koha-ils/task/33
11:39 cait tcohen: any chance you could visit our TM ? :)
11:39 ashimema but it's all incredibly manual
11:39 ashimema nope
11:39 cait no errors or anything?
11:38 cait that shoudl result in changed strings
11:38 cait but there were definitely 22.11 only changes
11:38 cait yeah - that's the trick I was not sure about
11:38 ashimema I don't really know enough about how it all fits together to fix this though ☹️
11:38 ashimema the others are pulled from the old translations
11:38 cait numbers are just too close
11:38 ashimema the templates dir used 22.11
11:38 cait I am not sure if it really used 22.11
11:38 cait numbers are still the same
11:37 cait checking
11:37 ashimema ooh.. it just finished
11:36 tcohen ah
11:36 cait tcohen: we are trying to fix the manual pos
11:36 cait I tried searching |AllowCheckoutNotes| but it doesn't show up - it was a change from the hackfest, a screenshot name
11:36 tcohen aren't we still a few days before freeze?
11:36 cait ashimema: can you let me know when it's done?
11:35 cait tcohen: i think maybe better email
11:35 cait ok, maybe i just need to wait, so after the meeting then
11:34 tcohen anyone from biblibre around? I have an emergency
11:34 tcohen hola #koha o/
11:32 ashimema not sure if that's the issue
11:32 ashimema it's still syncing in the background
11:32 ashimema mm
11:32 cait can you see? the blu numbers of untranslated match up exactly
11:31 cait https://translate.koha-community.org/de/
11:31 cait or if it was based on 22.05 actually without the new stuff
11:31 cait as if nothing had changed
11:31 marcelr o/
11:31 cait it's almost the same strings missing as Koha manual 22.05
11:31 cait one interesting bit
11:27 ashimema once we confirm we're happy I can take a stab at 23.05
11:27 cait ok, I have a meeting in a bit, but will have a look after!
11:27 ashimema correct
11:26 cait ashimema: you did 22.11 right? so we need to do 23.05 later when it's ok?
11:26 ashimema ta
11:26 cait will try an dcheck for some recent changes
11:26 cait possibly a good test would be to translate the manual with them
11:26 cait can't tell about hte process, but ones the files are up I can try
11:15 ashimema but I've burnt through time today and now have lots of meetings to go into
11:15 ashimema we should write them up more formerly somewhere..
11:15 ashimema hopefully they make some sense..
11:14 ashimema I added my notes on the process to here: https://tree.taiga.io/project/koha-ils/task/33
11:13 ashimema could you give it a sanity check for me later today pretty please?
11:13 ashimema it's still going in the background cait.. but it's starting to look better in the UI now..
11:12 ashimema unexpected community days... always fun
11:10 cait ashimema++ ashimema++ (23.05, translations) MatthewBlenkinsop++
10:58 ashimema doesn't help that there's a lot of 'screen' in this command history.. which hides stuff
10:58 ashimema I think I found the magic command.. lets see
10:58 ashimema ooh, ooh
10:57 ashimema but I can't seem to get the translations to turn up ☹️
10:56 ashimema the project is there
10:56 ashimema I'm stuck again
10:56 cait I reid to clean up one ealier that was missing some steps
10:56 cait we did delete some stuff, I was going to ask about the many how to add index to zebra pages...
10:54 cait ashimema: fingers are crossed... just lunch drew me away
10:48 Joubu that must be fun
10:47 Joubu git reset --hard v3.00.00-stableRC1
10:47 ashimema lol
10:46 Joubu "on debian 6"...
10:46 ashimema [off] and thd seems totally against cleanup
10:46 Joubu that sucks
10:46 Joubu https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git#Share_with_the_rest_of_the_world
10:46 Joubu everything is outdated
10:46 ashimema agreed
10:46 Joubu nothing is correct
10:46 ashimema ?
10:45 Joubu I hate that wiki
10:39 ashimema yeah.. that might be where I'm stuck 🙂
10:39 ashimema I'm stuck
10:39 ashimema damn
10:31 Joubu ashimema: Shouldn't we simply create a new project on pootle (using the UI)?
10:28 Joubu https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/issues/13
10:27 Joubu nope, it's only to branch the git repo
10:26 Joubu there is a card on the kanban I think
10:26 ashimema basically trying to pick out the right lines from the command history 😜
10:26 ashimema I'm all ears if you have knowledge.. I'm properly flying blind
10:26 Joubu it's only to update strings for Koha, totally out of context :D
10:26 ashimema no worries
10:25 Joubu well, I jumped into the discussion but had not really followed it, sorry..
10:24 ashimema what I'm trying to work out though, is how to add manual22.11 to pootle as a project.. it doesn't exist at all yet.. so I don't think the above command is it.. though I could well be wrong
10:24 oleonard o/
10:23 ashimema I think the above is for koha.. the manual is similar though
10:23 ashimema my git fetch just took 20 mins 😜
10:22 Joubu it's very slow IIRC
10:22 Joubu I have an email I sent on Oct 2021 "Should we add it to the crontab?", never got a reply
10:21 Joubu this is the command
10:21 Joubu ashimema: for ver in 23.05 22.11 22.05 21.11; do /srv/scripts/update-koha.sh $ver; done | tee update-koha.log
10:18 ashimema hopefully I've found the right command history for how to do this cait.. wish me luck.. I'm following it a bit blind
10:17 ashimema man.. there's not been a pull on here for AGES
10:11 ashimema but it got disabled again by someone.. I think perhaps the pootle server had some rebuild or something
10:11 ashimema and I even had it working
10:11 ashimema that was the plan..
10:11 ashimema we instead trigger the pull from pootle any time we build the manual
10:10 ashimema ideally we don't keep the translations in the gitlab repo at all
10:09 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29063 major, P5 - low, ---, david, In Discussion , [DOCS] Manual: Translation issue with repeated strings in system preferences
10:09 aude_c[m] Next on my list to ask you (sorry :D ) Did you see comments on bug 29063?
10:08 cait but without newer files that doesn#t make sense right now
10:08 cait we need to move them from the tarnslation server into the docs repository... somewhat regularly
10:08 aude_c[m] Noted!!
10:07 cait yes, get the po files to update the manuals - but that's for later
10:06 aude_c[m] Is there still something you need the Docs team to do?
10:06 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33790 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to master , Fix and add various links to the manual
10:06 aude_c[m] By the way, cait , you'd put bug 33790 on a previous Docs meeting agenda
10:04 ashimema just very very slow to respond
10:04 ashimema i got in now
10:04 cait hm it's online at least
10:02 ashimema I don't appear to be able to ssh to translate any more
10:02 ashimema interesting
10:02 ashimema hmm
10:01 * ashimema logs into translate to dig around and see if he can work out how to add it for you
10:01 ashimema mmm
10:01 cait so at the moment... it's really bad
10:01 cait we don't have translations for 23.05 and master either
10:01 aude_c[m] ok
10:00 cait but I think the translation issue is really a separate one
10:00 cait true, something to talk about
10:00 ashimema it's not easy
10:00 ashimema if we branch earlier though.. that will just make the above issue about backports even more pronounced
10:00 cait I think if manual updates done in smaller portions, maybe backproting would be easier, but it's probably a lot easier on command line than with the gui tools
10:00 cait that's true
09:59 ashimema we should really branch at release
09:59 ashimema except we cause ourselves issues by not branching
09:59 aude_c[m] and cherry-picking isn't straightforward (so, quite frankly, things don't get backported to older versions of the manual). So something introduced in one Koha version may only make it into the manual version for 2 Koha versions later. That's not good.
09:59 cait but it won't fix the translation problem so or so
09:58 cait i just see people asking about "why do I not have this checkbox?"
09:58 aude_c[m] we're always behind on documenting
09:58 cait but littering thigns with version numbers - I don't see that helping much
09:58 cait the most important stuff will be in when the manual is branched
09:57 cait I think we don't need to maintain that well now that we maintain the newer ones more
09:57 cait and we'd never catch up on with translations either
09:57 aude_c[m] and one manual to translate (and we need your input to understand the impact)
09:57 ashimema but.. we don't maintain older manuals well at all
09:57 cait when you are not used to it
09:57 ashimema I'm not against either approach
09:57 aude_c[m] so only one manual to maintain, which would always be the most up-to-date
09:57 cait in my opinion people don't abstract really well
09:57 cait the screenshots won't match
09:57 ashimema one manual with tags inside it to highlight changes in versions
09:57 aude_c[m] just have one same manual for all
09:57 cait I don't think ti would help really, people will get confused
09:56 ashimema instead of a manual per koha version supported
09:56 aude_c[m] stop having one manual version per Koha version
09:56 aude_c[m] (and will need to be discussed further, but we need to start somewhere)
09:56 cait what do you mean by one manual?
09:56 aude_c[m] The one manual idea is on the agenda for this afternoon's Docs meeting
09:56 aude_c[m] cait: would it help if... we only had one version of the Manual in the future?
09:55 aude_c[m] Thank you ashimema !
09:55 * ashimema pushed removal of 'development' for you aude_c
09:55 aude_c[m] For the Manual side, I have this https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_management#Translating_the_manual
09:54 cait I don't think a different way is feasable really, different translation platform for all our thigns, yes
09:54 cait and I don't know if we have any documantation on how to make the po fils for manuals?
09:54 aude_c[m] We need to chat with the Translation manager apparently... or just decide a completely different way of dealing with the Manual translations.
09:54 cait I have sent a lot of emails to bgkriegel, I don't know how to proceed
09:53 aude_c[m] I know. Talked about this with the French translators too.
09:53 ashimema * hugs aude_c
09:53 ashimema hugs aude_x
09:53 aude_c[m] :(
09:53 cait we would translate, but no po files to have...
09:52 cait I am more worried still about having an LTS version with no German manual :(
09:52 cait ah ok, I don't see that
09:52 ashimema 23.05 isn't in development any more 😜
09:52 aude_c[m] (Noticed it earlier this week)
09:52 ashimema it's part of the title
09:52 ashimema in the manual link above
09:52 aude_c[m] Sorry, it's on my to-do list too
09:52 cait which development?
09:51 ashimema always bugs me
09:51 ashimema grr.. I'm going to remove that '(development)' there..
09:51 cait i can check for the account if you want to send me a PM
09:50 Annelisterman[m] Library HU: https://koha-community.org/manual/23.05/en/html/circulation.html#holds
09:49 LibraryHU[m] how to place hold on books in koha?
09:43 aude_c[m] I assume so. As it is a long while since they last logged in, they also wondered whether their account had been deleted in a tidy-up.
09:43 aude_c[m] Thanks!
09:40 cait I haven't heard from other proboems, spam folder and all were checked?
09:39 cait it shoudl be ok, was the last status I had
09:39 aude_c[m] Hello! Does anyone know if there are still problems with accounts on the Koha wiki? A librarian is telling me they're trying to reset their password but they're not receiving anything.
09:14 cait heh thanks!
09:14 * Joubu sends cait some mate
09:09 * cait never got that coffee...
08:38 PedroAmorim[m] o/
08:37 wahanui next meeting is, like, https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings
08:37 krimsonkharne[m] next meeting?
08:22 cait ashimema: can you bring me some too?
08:06 * ashimema needs coffee
08:03 ashimema Development and production at certainly different use cases.. ktd is certainly a development tool
08:03 aw-bib[m] right. so I stick with the recommended stuff for the time being. a few boxes will be pretty far away and I fear I have a pretty challenging time frame as well. so avoid all even potential issues is a thing of it's own. (and right now I can assume at least a debian server everywhere...)
08:00 cait I had said package installation is still the recommended method :)
07:59 cait ashimema++
07:55 aw-bib[m] Joubu: your guess was perfectly right. tanks! mystery solved. :)
07:49 aw-bib[m] I am not (yet) into docker as cait mentioned that for the prods it is preferable to run on bare metal. so right now bare metal it is. but actually we'd prefer to dockerize at some point. I might come back to you on that. ;)
07:47 Joubu if you are using ktd you can edit the yml and call `reset_all` that is an alias to drop/create and populate the db with the sample data
07:47 aw-bib[m] I'll give it a try. InstallKoha takes just a few seconds :)
07:47 aw-bib[m] this also explains why I have 3 z3950servers in the first place.
07:46 Joubu it's just a guess, worth a try!
07:46 Joubu here you are adding sru_options that is not in lx2.loc.gov
07:46 aw-bib[m] ah! so if I have more parameters this should go to it's own block.
07:46 Joubu you can see 3 "z3950servers", each has different columns
07:45 Joubu IIRC you need the same rows per "block"
07:44 aw-bib[m] if I set checked to 1 I get the same reuslt. and sru_options doesn't end up in the db at all.
07:44 aw-bib[m] the block in question I use is... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/WwplZbqQyLcRQKRQDjannJxB>)
07:43 aw-bib[m] I added the two new servers just below the lx2.loc.gov sru server and besides those parameters they end up in the ui and work as expected. I am just not able to autocheck those. but you are right, it works for z3950.bnf.fr
07:41 aw-bib[m] I tried to add two new servers on the line of the LoC sru service to the yml. this is processed fine but the parameters don't end up in the database. I don't really get it I admit.
07:40 Joubu which is the value set in installer/data/mysql/en/optional/sample_z3950_servers.yml
07:39 Joubu aw-bib[m]: how ignored? I am seeing that z3950.bnf.fr has rank=2 in DB
07:28 ashimema Pass
07:27 ashimema Now we're only a month behind master.. will continue later
07:27 aw-bib[m] hello! yesterday I fiddled with adding new sru servers to koha during baseinstall. for this I added the services to the z3950.yml file. doing this I noticed that sru_options seems to be ignored, similarly checked and rank values. I'll most likely solve this via sql, but I wonder if this points to a deeper issue. (maybe it went unnoticed till now as the only sru-server in the defaults is LoC which doesn't need any parameters.)
07:06 ashimema haha
07:06 dcook ashimema: I'd say it can't hit back but I think we know better...
07:03 * ashimema roles up sleeves and hits 23.05.x hard