Time  Nick                 Message
21:02 cait                 you too :)
21:02 caroline             have a nice weekend!
20:55 caroline             and we are hundreds of kilometers from the fires... I cannot imagine what it is like for the communities near
20:54 bag                  oof
20:54 caroline             bag today is a bit smoky, but last weekend it was worse, it was like sitting at a campfire with the wind in your face
20:53 caroline             [off] this will be a big exercise in the management of my own expectations... I will not burn out over this
20:53 bag                  I meant to ask - how’s the smoke for y’all?
20:53 bag                  Montreal is an awesome city - that will do most of the work for you - it will shine nice and bright :)
20:53 cait                 caroline++ inlibro++ and bag++ :)
20:52 caroline             that would really help
20:52 bag                  I have some of the experience from Portland of what went well and things that I would refine
20:52 bag                  cool I’ll defintiely help :)
20:51 caroline             bag, I might rope you in to help, I distinctly remember you offering lol!
20:51 bag                  excellent :)
20:49 davidnind            caroline++
20:38 cait                 yes!!!
20:38 caroline             and a proposal! https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon24_Proposals
20:37 cait                 [off] and a city... that's already more than we had before
20:37 cait                 [off] you got a month :)
20:37 cait                 [off] i thik that's normal
20:36 caroline             [off] a lot of TBD for the moment :/
20:35 caroline             yay thanks!
20:35 cait                 [off] yep :)
20:35 caroline             [off] is this accessible from wherever you are? https://inlibro.com/en/kohacon24/ sometimes we have access restrictions...
20:30 oleonard             See ya o/
20:19 oleonard             That's a good question... it is very generic, possibly reusable
20:18 cait                 could we maybe reuse it?
20:18 cait                 I didn't know that, interesting
20:18 cait                 aah
20:18 oleonard             ...uses *an* XSLT view...
20:18 oleonard             The "plain" MARC preview uses and XSLT view which we don't have for authorities
20:17 caroline             some fields did not display anymore
20:17 caroline             the display definitely changed in 22.05 or 21.11 because we had complaints about it
20:16 cait                 you can now add an XSLT file but we don't ship a default one
20:16 caroline             Don't we? I thought it changed recently
20:16 cait                 not yet
20:16 oleonard             I don't think we use XSLT for authority record display anywhere do we?
20:14 cait                 :)
20:13 oleonard             Bye h2h2!
20:13 h2h2                 Bye, bye, everyone! I'll come back--this place is great!!!
20:10 h2h2                 (But I have no understanding of the Underlying Code Magic!)
20:10 h2h2                 That's what I thought--29825 is about editing. My bug is not editing.
20:09 oleonard             Bug 29825 adds the ability to preview the MARC record which will be created while you're adding/editing a record
20:09 cait                 ok
20:09 oleonard             All different issues.
20:09 cait                 ?
20:09 cait                 do you thik it will fix Heather#s issue
20:08 cait                 so we overlapped!
20:08 cait                 ah
20:08 huginn               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34179 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Make authority MARC preview look like bibliographic MARC preview
20:08 huginn               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34180 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Template variable in JavaScript prevents authority MARC preview from displaying
20:08 cait                 oleonard just worked on it - is that similar to bug 34179 maybe?
20:08 oleonard             cait: I was looking to see if Bug 34180 had been reported and I found that instead
20:07 huginn               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29825 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gveranis, Needs Signoff , Preview of authority record on edit mode as MARC formatted view
20:07 cait                 hm I just spotted bug 29825
20:02 h2h2                 YEA!!!  Thank you!  It's only the second bug I ever typed into bugzilla--so exciting!!!
20:02 h2h2                 waves at @cait
20:02 cait                 your bug looks alright to me
20:01 cait                 almost missed you
20:01 * cait               waves at h2h2 :)
19:32 h2h2                 I figured out today how to search the logs of this channel--so handy!
19:30 h2h2                 Hahahaha! Yes! But email is "welcome to the 1970s" so this is more modern!:)
19:29 caroline             lol! that's IRC for you, welcome to the 1990's!
19:28 h2h2                 Oh, yes--everyone is always so nice! But it took a while to find where to type!:):)
19:28 caroline             h2h2, no worries, as you know everyone is really nice around here
19:27 h2h2                 Yea!  We do, too!  (One reason I dropped in to try IRC now--not so many people here while I try to figure it out!)
19:25 caroline             good! We have a long weekend coming up, so that's nice
19:25 h2h2                 Well, thank you!  How are you, caroline?
19:24 caroline             hi h2h2! How are you doing?
19:11 h2h2                 We've used Koha for years--I'm Heather in San Francisco! (I *thought* my id here was "h2," but it said someone else had that id)
19:10 oleonard             h2h2: What brings you to Koha?
19:09 h2h2                 waves (newbie here, mostly lurking & reading, trying to figure out how this works)
18:35 cait                 most people are around during their work hours (from different timezones)
18:35 cait                 you might want to try asking at another time - it's weekend basically almost everywhere
18:30 MichalKohaCZ[m]      We need it for some devel purposes
18:30 cait                 what are you trying to do if I may ask?
18:29 cait                 I am just a user
18:24 MichalKohaCZ[m]      Is here some Koha Testing Docker guru? I need help with open ports for ssh and db.
18:21 cait                 hi MichalKohaCZ[m]
18:12 MichalKohaCZ[m]      Hi Koha
16:38 cait                 caroline++
16:16 cait                 I know people have managed on windows also
16:16 caroline             that would be nice
16:15 cait                 maybe we could try to have a session at the conf :)
16:14 cait                 I think I use like 5 commands to do it all
16:14 caroline             ok that's a relief at least
16:13 cait                 at least I don't :)
16:13 cait                 in my experience you don't really need to understand any docker stuff
16:10 caroline             It's also an obstacle for new docs writers if we absolutely need ktd to write docs
16:09 caroline             I'm also not familiar with docker, my only experience having gone really bad...
16:09 caroline             it's not that i cannot, I just don't have it and never learned it
16:09 cait                 (it took me a long while to switch, but I really quite like it now)
16:09 cait                 is there a reason you cannot use ktd?
16:08 cait                 I am not sur if it could be used without
16:08 cait                 maybe
16:08 huginn               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29716 enhancement, P4, ---, david, ASSIGNED , [DOCS] Automated screenshots using Cypress.io testing framework
16:08 caroline             davidnind said it was possible to not use ktd yesterday, but that might have been only for bug 29716
16:07 cait                 I think the instructions won't work without it
16:07 caroline             no
16:07 cait                 an you are not using ktd, right?
16:07 cait                 hm i think it's written with ktd in mind
16:06 cait                 https://gitlab.com/joubu/Koha/-/commits/cypress-studio
16:06 cait                 he writes he has added a branch, but not how to add it to ktd?
16:06 caroline             yeah, but he said he's on vacation... I wanted to test before he came back so i'd have intelligent questions to ask... it seems I'm at the stupid questions stage rn lol
16:05 cait                 hm let me take a look, but you shouldmaybe ask Joubu that
16:04 caroline             or is it in the normal koha repo?
16:04 huginn               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34076 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , [ALTERNATE] [DOCS] Automated screenshots using Cypress.io testing framework
16:04 caroline             for bug 34076, is there a step to do before step 0? I feel like I should have a git on my computer or something before adding a remote? But I don't know enough to know :(
14:47 ashimema             did cait dissapear already
12:46 cait                 you are welcome kohaio[m] :)
12:36 magnuse              cait++
12:36 kohaio[m]            you saved my day, thanks again :)
12:36 kohaio[m]            indeed, the email is not activated in prod (x_x)
12:34 kohaio[m]            thanks both, preprod is properly retrieving the library. checking prod :)
12:33 magnuse              sudo koha-list --noemail
12:33 magnuse              sudo koha-list --email
12:32 kohaio[m]            ah, checking this one :)
12:32 cait                 sudo koha-email-enable or -disable and I think there is a way to get a list too
12:31 cait                 soem crons have the --email switch and are not run if the sending emails is deactivated
12:31 kohaio[m]            yep, custom smtp, working fine while running manually the process_message_queue.pl
12:31 cait                 have you activated email for the instance?
12:30 kohaio[m]            messages remain in pending status in production. i can manually trigger the process_message_queue but it's not running as a cronjob :/
12:30 cait                 hi kohaio[m]
12:30 kohaio[m]            do someone know if the process_message_queue cronjob can be deactivated form the Koha back-end ? i have a difference between the preprod and production environment
12:29 huginn               cait: Karma for "MichaelaSieberBIB" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2.
12:29 cait                 @karma MichaelaSieberBIB
12:29 huginn               cait: MichaelaSieberBIB I've exhausted my database of quotes has neutral karma.
12:29 cait                 @karma MichaelaSieberBIB[m]
12:29 cait                 MichaelaSieberBIB++
12:28 kohaio[m]            Hello there :)
12:27 magnuse              i probably remember wrong, then
12:27 cait                 magnuse: cannot remember one
12:27 cait                 hi tcohen :)
12:11 magnuse              is there a SearchMyLibraryFirst for the staff interface? i thought there was, but can't find it...
12:09 tcohen               hola cait
12:07 cait                 could you file a bug and link it to 26351?
12:03 MichaelaSieberBIB[m] <cait> "anyplace else it seems to work..." <- we found one more exception : moving an item to another biblio (cataloguing/moveitem.pl?)
12:02 MichaelaSieberBIB[m] <khall> "can do!" <- Thanks Kyle!
12:01 cait                 hello :)
12:01 MichaelaSieberBIB[m] Hi koha :-)
11:57 cait                 khall++ thank you
11:55 tcohen               hola #koha o/
11:46 magnuse              cait++
11:41 * ashimema           had entirely forgotten that tree
11:40 cait                 anyplace else it seems to work great from the reports I got
11:40 khall                can do!
11:39 cait                 any chance you could have a look?
11:39 huginn               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31253 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Item search in staff interface should call barcodedecode if the search index is a barcode
11:39 cait                 we ran into bug 31253 which seems to be the last "leaf on its treee"
11:39 khall                👍
11:39 cait                 one sec, looking for the bug
11:39 cait                 hah :)
11:38 khall                yep!
11:38 cait                 khall: around?
10:09 cait                 and anyone else's ideas are also welcome of course :)
10:09 huginn               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34170 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Ability to add record/order line specific credits
10:08 cait                 caroline: added youto bug 34170 - would be interested in your opnion and on how you handle credits in your libraries
10:06 cait                 more interest might create more fixes..
10:03 marcelr              cya
08:47 magnuse              davidnind++
08:44 marcelr              there is a dutch saying about creaky wagons
08:44 marcelr              creaky = krakend
08:43 magnuse              thanks!
08:40 ashimema             before adding enhancements on top of creaky foundations we should have all the bugs reported against the foundations fixed first.
08:39 ashimema             but if it is.. I wholeheartedly agree..
08:39 ashimema             just looking at the bug tree now to see if it's still the case
08:39 ashimema             I kinda agree with Joubu's final comment
08:38 paulderscheid[m]     Don't now whether this is dumb but is there a way I can access plack's routing table (if there is one)?
08:38 ashimema             don't blame you
08:38 ashimema             yup
08:37 * marcelr            hides for another recalls patch set
08:37 ashimema             interesting
08:36 cait                 ...introducing a system preference, RecallsInterface, to configure where recalls can be placed. Recalls can either be placed via the OPAC, or the staff interface, or both. This is set to OPAC by default to be consistent with current behaviour.
08:36 cait                 you can then turn off the opac side recalls
08:35 ashimema             recalls as it stands isn't what any of us thing of as recalls.. as far as I'm aware
08:35 cait                 it really bringt it more in line with what academic libraries woudl expect
08:35 huginn               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31391 enhancement, P3, ---, aleisha, Signed Off , Staff-side recalls
08:35 cait                 antoher sign-off on bug 31391 might help
08:35 ashimema             nope
08:35 cait                 not yet
08:33 magnuse              it's not possible for staff to trigger recalls from the staff client?
08:33 ashimema             🙂
08:33 magnuse              yeah, sounds like a good idea :-)
08:33 paulderscheid[m]     Sorry, Perl and Koha Conference :)
08:32 paulderscheid[m]     Might be a good question for the Kohacon :D
08:30 * magnuse            too
08:30 cait                 pass :)
08:29 paulderscheid[m]     I know about XS, but it would be much better the other way around for my use-case.
08:26 paulderscheid[m]     I already looked at OCaml but I don't like the functional style. Stuff for Go and Rust is still experimental, though.
08:26 paulderscheid[m]     Does anyone have an idea which low-level language has the best perl bindings?
08:23 paulderscheid[m]     Morning #koha
08:21 magnuse              \o
08:16 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] o/
07:46 magnuse              kia ora cait
07:45 cait                 and good morning magnuse :)
07:45 magnuse              \o/
07:45 cait                 good morning marcelr
07:42 marcelr              hi ashimema cait
07:36 * cait               waves
07:27 ashimema             marcelr++
06:06 marcelr              o/