Time Nick Message 06:06 marcelr o/ 07:27 ashimema marcelr++ 07:36 * cait waves 07:42 marcelr hi ashimema cait 07:45 cait good morning marcelr 07:45 magnuse \o/ 07:45 cait and good morning magnuse :) 07:46 magnuse kia ora cait 08:16 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] o/ 08:21 magnuse \o 08:23 paulderscheid[m] Morning #koha 08:26 paulderscheid[m] Does anyone have an idea which low-level language has the best perl bindings? 08:26 paulderscheid[m] I already looked at OCaml but I don't like the functional style. Stuff for Go and Rust is still experimental, though. 08:29 paulderscheid[m] I know about XS, but it would be much better the other way around for my use-case. 08:30 cait pass :) 08:30 * magnuse too 08:32 paulderscheid[m] Might be a good question for the Kohacon :D 08:33 paulderscheid[m] Sorry, Perl and Koha Conference :) 08:33 magnuse yeah, sounds like a good idea :-) 08:33 ashimema 🙂 08:33 magnuse it's not possible for staff to trigger recalls from the staff client? 08:35 cait not yet 08:35 ashimema nope 08:35 cait antoher sign-off on bug 31391 might help 08:35 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31391 enhancement, P3, ---, aleisha, Signed Off , Staff-side recalls 08:35 cait it really bringt it more in line with what academic libraries woudl expect 08:35 ashimema recalls as it stands isn't what any of us thing of as recalls.. as far as I'm aware 08:36 cait you can then turn off the opac side recalls 08:36 cait ...introducing a system preference, RecallsInterface, to configure where recalls can be placed. Recalls can either be placed via the OPAC, or the staff interface, or both. This is set to OPAC by default to be consistent with current behaviour. 08:37 ashimema interesting 08:37 * marcelr hides for another recalls patch set 08:38 ashimema yup 08:38 ashimema don't blame you 08:38 paulderscheid[m] Don't now whether this is dumb but is there a way I can access plack's routing table (if there is one)? 08:39 ashimema I kinda agree with Joubu's final comment 08:39 ashimema just looking at the bug tree now to see if it's still the case 08:39 ashimema but if it is.. I wholeheartedly agree.. 08:40 ashimema before adding enhancements on top of creaky foundations we should have all the bugs reported against the foundations fixed first. 08:43 magnuse thanks! 08:44 marcelr creaky = krakend 08:44 marcelr there is a dutch saying about creaky wagons 08:47 magnuse davidnind++ 10:03 marcelr cya 10:06 cait more interest might create more fixes.. 10:08 cait caroline: added youto bug 34170 - would be interested in your opnion and on how you handle credits in your libraries 10:09 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34170 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Ability to add record/order line specific credits 10:09 cait and anyone else's ideas are also welcome of course :) 11:38 cait khall: around? 11:38 khall yep! 11:39 cait hah :) 11:39 cait one sec, looking for the bug 11:39 khall 👍 11:39 cait we ran into bug 31253 which seems to be the last "leaf on its treee" 11:39 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31253 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Item search in staff interface should call barcodedecode if the search index is a barcode 11:39 cait any chance you could have a look? 11:40 khall can do! 11:40 cait anyplace else it seems to work great from the reports I got 11:41 * ashimema had entirely forgotten that tree 11:46 magnuse cait++ 11:55 tcohen hola #koha o/ 11:57 cait khall++ thank you 12:01 MichaelaSieberBIB[m] Hi koha :-) 12:01 cait hello :) 12:02 MichaelaSieberBIB[m] <khall> "can do!" <- Thanks Kyle! 12:03 MichaelaSieberBIB[m] <cait> "anyplace else it seems to work..." <- we found one more exception : moving an item to another biblio (cataloguing/moveitem.pl?) 12:07 cait could you file a bug and link it to 26351? 12:09 tcohen hola cait 12:11 magnuse is there a SearchMyLibraryFirst for the staff interface? i thought there was, but can't find it... 12:27 cait hi tcohen :) 12:27 cait magnuse: cannot remember one 12:27 magnuse i probably remember wrong, then 12:28 kohaio[m] Hello there :) 12:29 cait MichaelaSieberBIB++ 12:29 cait @karma MichaelaSieberBIB[m] 12:29 huginn cait: MichaelaSieberBIB I've exhausted my database of quotes has neutral karma. 12:29 cait @karma MichaelaSieberBIB 12:29 huginn cait: Karma for "MichaelaSieberBIB" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. 12:30 kohaio[m] do someone know if the process_message_queue cronjob can be deactivated form the Koha back-end ? i have a difference between the preprod and production environment 12:30 cait hi kohaio[m] 12:30 kohaio[m] messages remain in pending status in production. i can manually trigger the process_message_queue but it's not running as a cronjob :/ 12:31 cait have you activated email for the instance? 12:31 kohaio[m] yep, custom smtp, working fine while running manually the process_message_queue.pl 12:31 cait soem crons have the --email switch and are not run if the sending emails is deactivated 12:32 cait sudo koha-email-enable or -disable and I think there is a way to get a list too 12:32 kohaio[m] ah, checking this one :) 12:33 magnuse sudo koha-list --email 12:33 magnuse sudo koha-list --noemail 12:34 kohaio[m] thanks both, preprod is properly retrieving the library. checking prod :) 12:36 kohaio[m] indeed, the email is not activated in prod (x_x) 12:36 kohaio[m] you saved my day, thanks again :) 12:36 magnuse cait++ 12:46 cait you are welcome kohaio[m] :) 14:47 ashimema did cait dissapear already 16:04 caroline for bug 34076, is there a step to do before step 0? I feel like I should have a git on my computer or something before adding a remote? But I don't know enough to know :( 16:04 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34076 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , [ALTERNATE] [DOCS] Automated screenshots using Cypress.io testing framework 16:04 caroline or is it in the normal koha repo? 16:05 cait hm let me take a look, but you shouldmaybe ask Joubu that 16:06 caroline yeah, but he said he's on vacation... I wanted to test before he came back so i'd have intelligent questions to ask... it seems I'm at the stupid questions stage rn lol 16:06 cait he writes he has added a branch, but not how to add it to ktd? 16:06 cait https://gitlab.com/joubu/Koha/-/commits/cypress-studio 16:07 cait hm i think it's written with ktd in mind 16:07 cait an you are not using ktd, right? 16:07 caroline no 16:07 cait I think the instructions won't work without it 16:08 caroline davidnind said it was possible to not use ktd yesterday, but that might have been only for bug 29716 16:08 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29716 enhancement, P4, ---, david, ASSIGNED , [DOCS] Automated screenshots using Cypress.io testing framework 16:08 cait maybe 16:08 cait I am not sur if it could be used without 16:09 cait is there a reason you cannot use ktd? 16:09 cait (it took me a long while to switch, but I really quite like it now) 16:09 caroline it's not that i cannot, I just don't have it and never learned it 16:09 caroline I'm also not familiar with docker, my only experience having gone really bad... 16:10 caroline It's also an obstacle for new docs writers if we absolutely need ktd to write docs 16:13 cait in my experience you don't really need to understand any docker stuff 16:13 cait at least I don't :) 16:14 caroline ok that's a relief at least 16:14 cait I think I use like 5 commands to do it all 16:15 cait maybe we could try to have a session at the conf :) 16:16 caroline that would be nice 16:16 cait I know people have managed on windows also 16:38 cait caroline++ 18:12 MichalKohaCZ[m] Hi Koha 18:21 cait hi MichalKohaCZ[m] 18:24 MichalKohaCZ[m] Is here some Koha Testing Docker guru? I need help with open ports for ssh and db. 18:29 cait I am just a user 18:30 cait what are you trying to do if I may ask? 18:30 MichalKohaCZ[m] We need it for some devel purposes 18:35 cait you might want to try asking at another time - it's weekend basically almost everywhere 18:35 cait most people are around during their work hours (from different timezones) 19:09 h2h2 waves (newbie here, mostly lurking & reading, trying to figure out how this works) 19:10 oleonard h2h2: What brings you to Koha? 19:11 h2h2 We've used Koha for years--I'm Heather in San Francisco! (I *thought* my id here was "h2," but it said someone else had that id) 19:24 caroline hi h2h2! How are you doing? 19:25 h2h2 Well, thank you! How are you, caroline? 19:25 caroline good! We have a long weekend coming up, so that's nice 19:27 h2h2 Yea! We do, too! (One reason I dropped in to try IRC now--not so many people here while I try to figure it out!) 19:28 caroline h2h2, no worries, as you know everyone is really nice around here 19:28 h2h2 Oh, yes--everyone is always so nice! But it took a while to find where to type!:):) 19:29 caroline lol! that's IRC for you, welcome to the 1990's! 19:30 h2h2 Hahahaha! Yes! But email is "welcome to the 1970s" so this is more modern!:) 19:32 h2h2 I figured out today how to search the logs of this channel--so handy! 20:01 * cait waves at h2h2 :) 20:01 cait almost missed you 20:02 cait your bug looks alright to me 20:02 h2h2 waves at @cait 20:02 h2h2 YEA!!! Thank you! It's only the second bug I ever typed into bugzilla--so exciting!!! 20:07 cait hm I just spotted bug 29825 20:07 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29825 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gveranis, Needs Signoff , Preview of authority record on edit mode as MARC formatted view 20:08 oleonard cait: I was looking to see if Bug 34180 had been reported and I found that instead 20:08 cait oleonard just worked on it - is that similar to bug 34179 maybe? 20:08 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34180 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Template variable in JavaScript prevents authority MARC preview from displaying 20:08 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34179 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Make authority MARC preview look like bibliographic MARC preview 20:08 cait ah 20:08 cait so we overlapped! 20:09 cait do you thik it will fix Heather#s issue 20:09 cait ? 20:09 oleonard All different issues. 20:09 cait ok 20:09 oleonard Bug 29825 adds the ability to preview the MARC record which will be created while you're adding/editing a record 20:10 h2h2 That's what I thought--29825 is about editing. My bug is not editing. 20:10 h2h2 (But I have no understanding of the Underlying Code Magic!) 20:13 h2h2 Bye, bye, everyone! I'll come back--this place is great!!! 20:13 oleonard Bye h2h2! 20:14 cait :) 20:16 oleonard I don't think we use XSLT for authority record display anywhere do we? 20:16 cait not yet 20:16 caroline Don't we? I thought it changed recently 20:16 cait you can now add an XSLT file but we don't ship a default one 20:17 caroline the display definitely changed in 22.05 or 21.11 because we had complaints about it 20:17 caroline some fields did not display anymore 20:18 oleonard The "plain" MARC preview uses and XSLT view which we don't have for authorities 20:18 oleonard ...uses *an* XSLT view... 20:18 cait aah 20:18 cait I didn't know that, interesting 20:18 cait could we maybe reuse it? 20:19 oleonard That's a good question... it is very generic, possibly reusable 20:30 oleonard See ya o/ 20:35 caroline [off] is this accessible from wherever you are? https://inlibro.com/en/kohacon24/ sometimes we have access restrictions... 20:35 cait [off] yep :) 20:35 caroline yay thanks! 20:36 caroline [off] a lot of TBD for the moment :/ 20:37 cait [off] i thik that's normal 20:37 cait [off] you got a month :) 20:37 cait [off] and a city... that's already more than we had before 20:38 caroline and a proposal! https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon24_Proposals 20:38 cait yes!!! 20:49 davidnind caroline++ 20:51 bag excellent :) 20:51 caroline bag, I might rope you in to help, I distinctly remember you offering lol! 20:52 bag cool I’ll defintiely help :) 20:52 bag I have some of the experience from Portland of what went well and things that I would refine 20:52 caroline that would really help 20:53 cait caroline++ inlibro++ and bag++ :) 20:53 bag Montreal is an awesome city - that will do most of the work for you - it will shine nice and bright :) 20:53 bag I meant to ask - how’s the smoke for y’all? 20:53 caroline [off] this will be a big exercise in the management of my own expectations... I will not burn out over this 20:54 caroline bag today is a bit smoky, but last weekend it was worse, it was like sitting at a campfire with the wind in your face 20:54 bag oof 20:55 caroline and we are hundreds of kilometers from the fires... I cannot imagine what it is like for the communities near 21:02 caroline have a nice weekend! 21:02 cait you too :)