Time Nick Message 15:02 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31391 enhancement, P3, ---, aleisha, Signed Off , Staff-side recalls 15:02 cait1 bug 31391 15:02 cait1 it makes it much more useful 15:02 cait1 oleonard: there is a bug for that i'd love to get in 15:00 caroline Maybe they just wanted to get it into Koha, and then work on it further... Recalls are one of those who lingered for many years 14:59 oleonard What an odd omission 14:58 caroline I think it's in the plans to add it, but so far it's only through the opac 14:58 caroline oleonard, I don't think so 14:52 oleonard Can you not place a recall on behalf of a patron via the staff interface? 14:45 Joubu I am kidding, I said I didn't care! 14:44 Joubu but well... then... why the wiki? 14:44 Joubu "The code is currently experimental and unstable. " 14:44 Joubu https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Real-time_collaboration 14:42 cait not sure if Mediawiki can do that at all 14:42 cait it would be nice... 14:38 Joubu yes to avoid the lock and loosing edits you know :D 14:37 cait is that to edit at the same timeß 14:37 cait i don't know what you are talking about :) 14:29 Joubu collaborative editor* 14:29 Joubu no collaborative plugin for the wiki? 14:28 Joubu looks good 14:28 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roadmap_for_23.11pease check again 14:27 Joubu what are the major issues with the task queue? 14:24 cait ok, that's an easys fix 14:24 Joubu API and Refactoring at tghe same level of UI 14:24 cait ah ok, i was just trying to do a sample one 14:24 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32910 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Upgrade fontawesome icons to V6 14:24 Joubu "Update Font Awesome - Bug 32910" is a sub entry of "UI" 14:24 cait but the sectiosn don't really separate well 14:23 cait I used h2 and h3 14:23 Joubu cait: it's missing a header I think 14:23 oleonard I must have missed a db update somewhere. 14:22 Joubu oleonard: if the permission is not in the DB 14:22 cait Joubu: second suggestion more in line with yours, what do you think? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roadmap_for_23.11 14:21 oleonard It works correctly with the sample data... 14:21 oleonard How did I mess up my permissions in such a way that I can't use recalls with superlibrarian privileges? 14:11 cait i just lost the new attempt :( 14:11 cait hm conflict resolving in mediawiki is confusing 14:07 cait looks good - maybenot sure about the bug link in the heading - 14:03 Joubu https://snipboard.io/Wk2jUx.jpg - this is what I had 13:49 cait sorry for being grouchy - just dealing with a lot of complaints and borken stuff the last hour 13:44 cait like they should all have a title, description, person list and some status? 13:44 cait maybe we can do a template for the sections ? 13:44 cait you are right 13:43 Joubu so whatever you decide is fine for me 13:43 Joubu the tool is not the problem IMO :D 13:42 cait I don't feel like we do well with long text pages 13:41 Joubu I just wanted to put my stuffs somewhere I will wait a bit more 13:41 Joubu I was editing it as well but didn't save 13:41 Joubu I am not the one who did that atually 13:40 Joubu ok 13:40 cait sorry, I just spent some time on it this morning I didn't really have. Woudl have liked to at least see it tried out 13:39 cait API is still capitals. 13:38 Joubu I think the table is messy 13:38 cait we could at least compare both before deciding 13:36 cait are you not using the visual editor? 13:35 cait I was just gonig to fill it with some data too 13:35 cait and API is an abbreviation 13:34 cait it's just going to be messy again 13:34 cait why? 13:34 Joubu cait, tcohen: I am editing the roadmap wiki page to replace the table with section 13:27 Joubu ho there is one: "no mpm loaded" 13:25 Joubu there should be a meaningful error somewhere 13:25 Joubu NikolayGospodinov[m]: I am sorry I have no idea what's going on 13:21 Joubu possible, there was one already, html_helpers so I thought it would work! 13:05 oleonard Joubu: I found when working on the title i18n bugs that it doesn't work to put the PROCESS in doc-head-close.inc 13:02 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33983 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Move translatable strings out of OPAC's datatables.inc into JavaScript 13:02 oleonard-away Joubu: I saw your comment on Bug 33983 but I'm confused because usually I find that [% PROCESS 'i18n.inc' %] has to be in the actual template or there is an error 12:49 NikolayGospodinov[m] I do not have this path /etc/apache2/mods-available/mpm_* 12:47 NikolayGospodinov[m] [Wed Jun 14 08:37:15.074905 2023] [mpm_event:notice] [pid 177019:tid 140662187952000] AH00491: caught SIGTERM, shutting down 12:39 Joubu what does contain the apache logs? 12:38 * NikolayGospodinov[m] uploaded an image: (204KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/AQaqyYfxmFsHOupjhhseqEXH/image.png > 12:38 NikolayGospodinov[m] this is what happend 12:36 Joubu a2dismod mpm_event && a2enmod mpm_itk 12:36 Joubu dismod mpm_event 12:36 Joubu mpm_prefork_module (shared) 12:36 Joubu mpm_itk_module (shared) 12:36 * NikolayGospodinov[m] uploaded an image: (19KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/mzbIJWAYnTRslAEMoLagRrPg/image.png > 12:36 Joubu `apache2ctl -M|grep mpm` returns 12:35 Joubu returns nothing 12:35 Joubu apache2ctl -M|grep event 12:35 NikolayGospodinov[m] but mine is 12:35 NikolayGospodinov[m] i restart it 12:35 Joubu it should not, given the error you have 12:34 NikolayGospodinov[m] is your mpm_event enabled? 12:34 Joubu NikolayGospodinov[m]: still around? 12:28 Joubu ls /etc/apache2/mods-available/mpm_* 12:27 Joubu NikolayGospodinov[m]: did you restart apache2? 12:27 Joubu I reached koha-create succesfully 12:26 tcohen Joubu++ 12:22 * Joubu running a debian:12 docker image 12:21 * NikolayGospodinov[m] uploaded an image: (10KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/QlAhLnbMOJnbAmwChoXnIxzc/image.png > 12:21 NikolayGospodinov[m] Still 12:21 NikolayGospodinov[m] i added library as host 12:18 aw-bib[m] maybe https://linuxhandbook.com/sudo-unable-resolve-host/ is worth a read on this. 12:18 aw-bib[m] yepp. 12:18 Joubu is the error 12:18 Joubu "unable to resolve" 12:18 * NikolayGospodinov[m] uploaded an image: (16KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/JixrKrPHwDIqNgdHzUigEMvF/image.png > 12:17 aw-bib[m] again needs root rigths (sudo or the like) 12:17 aw-bib[m] (or tell me that it is already enabled.) 12:16 aw-bib[m] a2enmod mpm_itk in my case will then enable it. 12:16 aw-bib[m] so this looks promising, the package is there. 12:16 NikolayGospodinov[m] when i run dpkg --get-selections | grep itk it shows: libapache2-mpm-itk install 12:15 aw-bib[m] apt need root rights, (sudo or whatever) and it did install the pacakge? (dpkg --get-selections | grep itk eg. should show it.) 12:12 NikolayGospodinov[m] and it shows: Module mpm_itk does not exist! 12:12 NikolayGospodinov[m] Then i run this command: sudo a2enmod mpm_itk 12:11 aw-bib[m] and then you also enabled it, right? 12:11 NikolayGospodinov[m] i run this command: apt-get install libapache2-mpm-itk 12:10 Joubu libapache2-mpm-itk vs apache2-mpm-itk? 12:10 aw-bib[m] mind the name: libapache2-mpm-itk 12:09 NikolayGospodinov[m] Yes. Again shows this: Module mpm_itk does not exist! 12:09 cait sounds "hot" :) 12:08 aw-bib[m] * warm ;) June 10th, 2023 12:07 Joubu NikolayGospodinov[m]: did you try to install libapache2-mpm-itk? 12:07 aw-bib[m] still warm ;) 12:07 cait how new is Debian12? 12:06 tcohen :-P 12:04 tcohen Joubu: it is stable, only a couple rough edges 12:04 Joubu I don't think so 12:04 NikolayGospodinov[m] what about the error with the mpm-itk. Is it connected to the koha version 12:04 Joubu "stable" is misleading in this case :D 12:03 tcohen if you are starting to try it, it's ok 12:03 cait 23.05 is just 2 weeks old 12:03 wahanui cait: I forgot latest stable version 12:03 cait forget latest stable version 12:03 NikolayGospodinov[m] you think the problem is with the version? 12:02 tcohen NikolayGospodinov[m]: I recomment you pick 22.11 and wait until july to upgrade 12:01 NikolayGospodinov[m] i am using the guide 12:01 wahanui it has been said that the last stable version is 18.11 12:01 NikolayGospodinov[m] the last stable version 12:01 tcohen what Koha version again? 12:01 aw-bib[m] * you might want to give apt install libapache2-mpm-itk a try. 12:00 tcohen Debian 12 should be fine, but it has just been released and I'm not sure we 100% tested on it 12:00 aw-bib[m] you might want to give apt install libapache2-mpm-itk a try. 12:00 NikolayGospodinov[m] I use this guide 12:00 aw-bib[m] https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/libapache2-mpm-itk 12:00 aw-bib[m] but it's libapache2-mpm-itk 11:59 aw-bib[m] mpm_itk should be available in bookworm. 11:59 tcohen hmmm 11:59 NikolayGospodinov[m] I am using Debian 12, https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian 11:58 tcohen NikolayGospodinov[m]: what Koha version, following which instructions on which OS? 11:58 NikolayGospodinov[m] i try to install sudo apt-get install -y apache2-mpm-itk but this message is shown: Package apache2-mpm-itk is not available, but is referred to by another package. 11:58 tcohen cait++ 11:58 tcohen hola #koha o/ 11:58 tcohen hola cait 11:57 NikolayGospodinov[m] ERROR: Module mpm_itk does not exist! 11:57 NikolayGospodinov[m] when i run sudo a2enmod mpm_itk this message is shown 11:56 aw-bib[m] iow (if you use sudo) you can just copy the line to switch them. 11:55 NikolayGospodinov[m] ok 11:55 aw-bib[m] if i get the message right it does not want mpm_event but mpm_itk from the typically this can be enabled with I read an explicit disable for your module and an explicit enable for the other one. (though I am no apache expert.) 11:54 NikolayGospodinov[m] Can someone help me please 11:53 NikolayGospodinov[m] my mpm_event module is enabled 11:53 NikolayGospodinov[m] sudo a2dismod mpm_event ; sudo a2enmod mpm_itk 11:53 NikolayGospodinov[m] Typically this can be enabled with: 11:53 NikolayGospodinov[m] Koha requires mpm_itk to be enabled within Apache in order to run. 11:52 NikolayGospodinov[m] Hello! I have a problem when trying to install Koha. On this step (Create a Koha instance) i get this message: 11:32 marcelr o/ 10:36 cait the buts earlier shoudl have read "the bots"... 10:19 ashimema nice one 10:08 cait tcohen: ashimema: draf is here https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roadmap_for_23.11 09:58 cait found a trick... 09:56 cait the link is gone, even if the result list is empty 09:54 cait (wiki) 09:54 cait hm you used to get a link to a new page when making a serach... but no longer. any new trick? 09:53 cait the buts react on the @ :) 09:52 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 09:52 huginn aw-bib[m]: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 09:52 aw-bib[m] @cait thanks for all the input :) you just pointed me at another long ignored field (007) that I have to derive. as mentioned some days ago as our invenio is pretty ignorant of controlfields we had to model most of this slightly differently. so I am not too familar with all those things (yet ;) 09:47 cait tcohen: ok with me makign a draft for roadmap? 09:44 cait sometimes it's a mix too 09:43 cait or "reference" (Präsenz) 09:43 cait but it was hard to change, I tried at one point :) itemtype can be linked to material types (because you circulate your serials differently than your books), but it could also be something like "short term loan" 09:42 cait item type is more a circulation type if you take a closer look, the translation Medientyp is a bit unfortunate in that regard 09:40 cait you are welcome - and not wrong either, the material type/format and other things are derived from LDR, 007, 008 09:26 aw-bib[m] silly me, you're right the two tags were to close to each other and my miss-conception was that the record type is derived from the leader and 008 where I have similar information. thanks again! :) 09:23 ashimema +1 09:21 cait we could maybe do a table? topics, interested parties, progress? 09:21 cait that is something I could make a draft for if youwant 09:21 cait i think the wiki page was not created yet, tcohen? 09:20 Joubu Did I miss the roadmap link somewhere? 09:20 cait Ican try to fix tonight, but probably not ealrier 09:19 cait ah sorry, probably missed it's 2 patches 09:18 Joubu cait: messy signoff on 33973 09:02 cait so what you saw is not linked to the items, just the itemtype on a different level 09:01 cait the items inherit as a suggestion on the item form when you manually add them, you can also use it to search by itemtype for records without items and it's used in some circulation contexts (article requests, hold calculations) 09:01 cait aw-bib[m]: 942$c is the itemtype on record level - it's mandatory by default - maybe that's what you mean? 08:16 aw-bib[m] ok, then I'll put this complaint of the record editor on my mystery to solve list ;) thank you! 08:15 magnuse BK looks like a good candidate for 952y, yes 08:12 aw-bib[m] ok. is there a difference between 952 passed in by some marcXML and 952 in the record editor I should be aware of? if I open such a record in the editor it tells me that a mandatory field is not set, but I do pass it on in |y as given. maybe I missunderstand the value of |y in said table. I assume BK for book in default settings, right? 08:10 magnuse aw-bib[m]: that page should be current 07:49 Joubu yes almost drowned already! 07:40 aw-bib[m] (our flavour is marc21) 07:39 aw-bib[m] may I ask, is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_(9xx) current or are those subfield definitions outdated? just wondering as I filled in quite a few and according to the table 952$y * Koha item type but it seems this one shold go to |c. at least the record editor is complaining about a missing item type. 07:38 aw-bib[m] hello :) 07:36 * magnuse hands ashtart__ the superglue 07:36 magnuse Joubu: drowning? 07:27 Joubu ~\o/~ 07:01 magnuse \o/ 06:45 cait davidnind++ :) 06:45 wahanui niihau, alex_ 06:45 alex_ Bonjour 06:32 wahanui hola, reiveune 06:32 reiveune hello