Time Nick Message 21:17 davidnind Agenda for next development IRC meeting and calendar entry added: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_7_June_2023 19:53 cait davidnind++ thx for the sign and fix :) 19:37 tcohen davidnind++ 19:37 tcohen Next wednesday, the usual time 19:36 davidnind tcohen: what day and time would you like set for the next development meeting? 17:58 oleonard kidclamp: I wasn't able to get it to work while testing a patch, so I wondered if it was broken 17:41 kidclamp What prompted the question oleonard? 17:41 kidclamp I suspect we do, I have heard of it, but educators may know 16:12 cait (I don't know why I know this) 16:12 cait library thing for libraries 16:11 * khall_ is afraid to ask what LTFL is 16:10 oleonard kidclamp, khall_ do you know of any libraries using LTFL integration in Koha? 15:53 caroline might have been tinycat, I'm surprised I don't remember since there is a cat :) 15:51 caroline I don't have their old catalog anymore obviously, but the file of records they sent me has "Librarything" in the filename 15:48 oleonard Maybe it was TinyCat? 15:47 caroline Maybe I'm not thinking of the same thing then... They were using it as an ILS 15:45 oleonard I wonder if the LTFL features still work in the OPAC 15:42 caroline oleonard, I recently had someone migrate from that to Koha, so I would say yes? 15:42 oleonard-away Is Library Thing for Libraries still a thing? 15:29 Joubu [off] it's late and I am tired but isn't 33879 a security bug? 15:25 mtj hi tcohen, can you set 23.05 branch on KTD to 'protected' 15:19 tcohen afk for a while, cya! 15:19 tcohen We will definitely start using codenames for next releaes 15:15 reiveune bye 15:03 * nugged brought itching topic, wrapping it. Oss! 15:00 nugged "Apocalypse"... Ukraine fighting against that right now 💪 ... But it's very close, right. Let's have a resilience and courage, as well with Koha. So right to get to more 'we have a change to survive / we will' name :) 14:55 cait or yesterday's proposal of Apocalypse 14:55 cait it's a lot better than Titanic for sure :) 14:54 caroline language is so cool 14:53 nugged So, while they have overlapping meanings, "sisu" contains elements that go beyond the concept of "grit". 14:53 nugged While "grit" often refers to long-term goals and consistency of effort, "sisu" is more about short-term bursts of extraordinary courage and determination in extreme situations. It is often described as a reserve of power which enables extraordinary action when normal mental or physical capacities have been exceeded. 14:53 nugged "sisu" goes beyond that, incorporating a sense of acting rationally against the odds, continuing when success seems unlikely, and even a form of transformative resilience that can change the course of events. 14:53 nugged Quoting (my own) another chat – 14:52 nugged caroline: very very close, right 14:51 * nugged fell silent with proposals :), but not in replies 14:50 * nugged fell silent 14:50 caroline sounds like "grit" 14:50 nugged ok, ok, 14:49 nugged "Sisu" is a Finnish concept that can be roughly translated as strength of will, determination, perseverance, and acting rationally in the face of adversity. It's a form of courage that's typically about taking action against the odds and displaying courage and resoluteness in the face of adversity. In essence, it's the power that enables individuals to push through significant challenges, no matter how insurmountable they seem. 14:48 nugged (it's not to say it for us but meaning... ha! it fits instead of Titanic :) ) 14:48 nugged this word doesn't have direct translation to other languages, somewhat Finnish-courage-stubbornness-resilience 14:46 nugged Sisu 14:46 nugged btw, there is the Finnish word you should learn - 14:46 nugged "Koha goes to Helsinki" :P 14:45 nugged 🤭 14:45 nugged Sublime 14:45 nugged Regal 14:45 nugged Imperial 14:45 nugged Monumental 14:45 nugged Illustrious 14:44 nugged Noble 14:44 nugged Mighty 14:44 nugged Epic 14:44 nugged Grand 14:44 nugged Majestic 14:44 nugged Olympian 14:44 nugged Herculean 14:44 nugged Monumental 14:44 nugged Colossal 14:40 cait .. but not titanic. 14:37 mtj tcohen: you can do whatever you want :) 14:37 tcohen can we roll back and add a codename? 14:36 nugged ... at least "a little" better with follow-up than without anyway :) 14:36 nugged > is good to go then 14:35 nugged that's why I signed off that patch in 33371 - at least mine 4 servers now confirmed after koha-common update with this patch started to reboot OKey=ley 14:35 tcohen ok, nugged and mtj tested and agreed the follow-up is good to go then 14:33 nugged tcohen: I am using that .service on production in my beta-build as made in 33371 14:32 tcohen or... have you tested the follow-up? 14:32 tcohen in master and in 23.05 14:32 tcohen I'll revert the unit file for now 14:30 mtj yep, ok :) 14:30 mtj ...pushed to master and 23.05 dists, on koha-staging repo 14:30 tcohen ok? 14:29 tcohen we need a fix on a db_rev as well 14:29 tcohen mtj: don't publish packages yet 14:29 mtj hi tcohen, ive make a build, with the 2nd patch of bz 33371 applied 14:28 tcohen I need to get updated on where we are at so I can fix things 14:28 tcohen mtj: what have you done for the build? reverted the unit file? 14:26 tcohen Joubu: the DBIC difference is when you rebuild against an updated db. right? 14:26 marcelr you should be able to find it quickly in the module for 2FA 14:26 PedroAmorim[m] hey! no worries! 14:26 marcelr that bug is a bit far in my mind currently 14:25 marcelr hi PedroAmorim[m] 14:21 PedroAmorim[m] what secret is this and where can I spot it? =D 14:21 PedroAmorim[m] it's only that specific installation, other 22.11.06 are not suffering from it, my understanding is the secret length is the cause? 14:21 PedroAmorim[m] I have not dabbed in 2FA before and I'm a bit confused with the discussion in the bug! 14:21 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32011 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to stable , 2FA - Problem with qr_code generation 14:21 PedroAmorim[m] marcelr: around? we have a 22.11.06 installation with the same issue describe in bug 32011 14:13 marcelr np 14:10 cait marcelr: it took me a while, but: lol 14:03 mtj we need to add a 23.05 branch to ktd 14:01 marcelr always wait a bit :) 13:59 mtj hi nugged, yep, we havent pushed the 23.05 pkgs yet 13:56 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33879 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Check_cookie_auth overwrites interface set by get_template_and_user 13:56 marcelr for the fans of Auth.pm bug 33879 13:53 marcelr kate :) 13:53 marcelr ah cait 13:43 cait we are not naming it Titanic! 13:40 nugged Did we manage to slip into that tiny sliver of time before we presented the .deb to the world? 13:37 mtj ill build a 23.05 pkg now 13:30 mtj revert might be the safer option? 13:30 mtj lets no go there team :) 13:29 marcelr great 13:29 mtj 23.05 titanic 13:28 marcelr it fits with the Disaster release name :) 13:28 mtj we could revert, and plan to re-add file in next release, after further testing 13:27 mtj tcohen: we can either remove the *.service file - or add the follow-up patch 13:26 nugged tcohen: ALARM! ALARM!!! :)... 🤷♂️ 13:26 nugged mtj: thanks! 13:25 mtj nugged: yes and yes 13:14 nugged this to say - it means release will ruin reboots for those who upgrade so this is "blocker/critical" patch? 13:13 nugged but before the patch the issue is there, right? 13:13 tcohen the column comments are... 13:13 tcohen Joubu: there seems to be only one difference 12:57 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33371 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , Add 'koha-common.service' systemd service 12:57 mtj i added a follow-up patch to bug 33371 12:56 mtj hi tcohen, nugged, i tested the systemd patch, and it seems to work well 12:53 oleonard Hi khall_ 12:47 * khall_ waves 12:32 marcelr thx oleonard++ 12:24 Joubu there is also a typo in the description endopoint 12:23 Joubu it must be *unless* fk exists! 12:23 Joubu tcohen: installer/data/mysql/db_revs/221200026.pl 12:19 Joubu tcohen: see https://tree.taiga.io/project/koha-ils/task/117 12:14 oleonard 👍🏻 12:14 huginn marcelr: The operation succeeded. 12:14 marcelr @later tell oleonard added followup on 33608 11:45 tcohen bbiab 11:29 marcelr o/ 11:24 tcohen exqctly 11:24 mtj hi tcohen, yep, i just poking this systemd thing ^ 11:23 tcohen mtj: can you spin up a -1 package? 11:21 tcohen hola #koha o/ 10:51 nugged mtj: 🙏 10:04 mtj let me test the reboot 10:02 mtj nugged: it seems like a good idea :) 10:01 mtj hi folks 10:00 cait not quite my area of expertise either :( 09:57 Joubu absolutely no idea! 09:55 nugged at least I patched my productions 09:55 nugged it might affect the release 09:55 huginn 04Bug 33371: normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to master , Add 'koha-common.service' systemd service 09:55 nugged Joubu cait ashimema: what do you think about that - https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33371#c5 09:54 Joubu done, thanks 09:52 jajm suggestion: "The file is less tidy than before (bad/messy lines before: 1, now: 2)" 09:50 Joubu * empty lines are caught and warning is raised when it shouldn't 09:50 Joubu * fix the qa-test-tools test (how do we locate the good .perltidyrc from Koha? Do we want that?) 09:50 Joubu * replace xt/perltidyrc with .perltidyrc in the command 09:49 Joubu still more to do 09:49 Joubu it's a POC for now 09:49 Joubu feel free to adjust 09:49 jajm but i find the message confusing "The file must be as much tidy after (2) than before (1)" 09:48 jajm Joubu: it's ok now, thanks 09:47 jajm Joubu: no more warn message, i need to find another commit 09:45 huginn marcelr: The operation succeeded. 09:45 marcelr @later tell khall could you comment on bug 33878 ? 09:45 Joubu jajm: refetch! 09:44 marcelr fix it ! 09:44 Joubu adjusting the commit 09:44 Joubu in QohA/File/Perl.pm 09:44 Joubu 306 return $full_buf->[0]; 09:44 Joubu erk I forgot to add a file to the commit! 09:43 marcelr will have a look, Joubu; thx 09:43 jajm Joubu: with 09:42 Joubu ? 09:42 Joubu jajm: with or without "prevent the tests to explode". 09:42 Joubu but then we will opt for a perltidyrc config people will have to adjust their editor 09:42 jajm Joubu: "The file must be as much tidy after (ARRAY(0x555d38534da8)) than before (ARRAY(0x555d339791a0))" :D 09:42 Joubu it's fine for code submitted prior to a possible decision 09:41 Joubu marcelr: we need to teach people to tidy their code 09:41 Joubu and especifically "Check tidiness - consider failure as warning" I have implemented less than 20 min ago :D 09:41 Joubu and https://gitlab.com/joubu/qa-test-tools/-/commits/check-tidiness 09:40 Joubu https://gitlab.com/koha-community/qa-test-tools/-/merge_requests/50 09:31 marcelr somehow i dont like to fail qa just for spaces and so ? 09:31 marcelr Joubu: would you include the perltidy thing in qa tools ? 08:32 Joubu nope, correct bug 08:19 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22802 blocker, P5 - low, ---, nick, CLOSED FIXED, When ordering from a staged file, if funds are populated per item order level fund should not be required 08:19 fridolin Joubu: Bug 22802 comment 10, wrong bug maybe 08:17 fridolin and check credencials 08:17 fridolin i need to recreate a fresh KTD :) 08:17 * fridolin warming up for RMaint 08:13 cait day after release... how does everyone feel? 08:07 marcelr hi cait 08:06 cait good morning #koha 06:39 fridolin tcohen++ what a joy to see v23.05.00 :D 06:38 marcelr tcohen++ # release time 06:38 marcelr hi #koha 06:31 reiveune hello 05:45 Joubu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE 04:23 RafaelFernandes[m] Hi