Time  Nick             Message
20:59 aleisha          morning caroline :)
20:59 caroline         good morning aleisha!
20:58 aleisha          hello
20:57 ADC_             i will try again
20:54 caroline         It's possible it added something, or changed the separator from comma to semi-colon or something like that.
20:52 ADC_             excel
20:50 caroline         what software did you use to change it? Maybe it added some characters it wasn't supposed to when you saved?
20:50 ADC_             all i changed was the hidden field
20:49 caroline         granted I didn't change the CSV file
20:49 caroline         master is the development version of Koha. I was working in it right now, so I tried exporting and importing and it worked fine for me
20:48 caroline         Maybe there was a comma missing somewhere and it freaked out, it can happen when we edit it manually
20:48 caroline         Can you try to import the csv file for the default framework in Fast add, without any changes?
20:47 ADC_             where is the master
20:47 caroline         Ok I just tried it in master and it seems to work correctly.
20:45 caroline         weird. I haven't used that in many years, but it should work
20:43 ADC_             no message
20:43 ADC_             yes
20:43 caroline         did it give you a message?
20:43 caroline         Did you reimport the csv file?
20:41 ADC_             Well it didn't change anything. All those fields are still not there. Like 000 and 008
19:20 ADC_             i will report back for others
19:20 ADC_             i am a copy cataloger and don't know all these fields.
19:20 caroline         +1 good luck!
19:19 ADC_             oh i see i will try this. thank you so very much.
19:19 caroline         and you can change the 'hidden' value to 8 for the ones you don't want
19:19 caroline         under that line, you should see all the subfields
19:18 caroline         yep that's the one
19:18 ADC_             That is the only word hidden
19:18 ADC_             liblibrarian	libopac	repeatable	mandatory	important	kohafield	tab	authorised_value	authtypecode	value_builder	isurl	hidden	frameworkcode	seealso	link	defaultvalue	maxlength	display_order
19:16 caroline         You can CTRL+F hidden and yoou should be able to jump to the subfields
19:16 caroline         the column for visibility is called 'hidden'
19:15 caroline         It starts with all the fields, and then all the subfields
19:14 caroline         it might be at the bottom?
19:14 ADC_             how do i see subfields in the ccv file
19:14 caroline         If you enter 8 as the value, it should be completely hidden (same as unchecking all boxes)
19:13 caroline         It wount be in the fields section
19:13 caroline         in the subfields section?
19:13 ADC_             however  don't ssee it
19:12 ADC_             oh great!
19:12 caroline         it should be a value between -8 and 8
19:12 caroline         there is a column in the CSV for visibility
19:12 ADC_             but you have to do that one by one right?
19:11 caroline         let me get you the values
19:11 caroline         You can, however I advise against deleting them. It would be better to change the visibility
19:11 ADC_             just keep the required right. maybe i messed it all up when i deleted the 000 and 008
19:10 ADC_             Can i delete the unwanted fileds in the csv file and upload
19:10 caroline         especially if you're working with volunteers
19:10 caroline         I understand the need to keep it simple
19:09 ADC_             i am trying to keep from deleting one by one of the unwanted fields
19:07 ADC_             oh ok I tried to add the 000 field back myself in edit mode and it wouldn't add back.
19:06 ADC_             Ok, can i remove unwanted fields in this csv file before importing. I am trying to keep it very simple with just author title and isbn and barcode.
19:04 caroline         or you could open both files in a text editor and copy the 000 and 008 lines from the default to the FA. and then import the FA back
19:04 caroline         you could simply import the default CSV in the FA framework and work from there if you want
19:02 ADC_             then import right?
19:02 ADC_             do the same thing in default
19:01 caroline         yes, and default so you can see what are the lines that need to be added
19:01 ADC_             the the fast add?
19:00 caroline         yes
19:00 ADC_             is it marc bibliographic framework that i go to
18:59 ADC_             ok let me see
18:59 caroline         The Action button is specific to the framework, so you'll have to do it for both
18:58 ADC_             Wil it tell me which file to export
18:57 caroline         Administration > MARC frameworks > Action button > Export
18:57 ADC_             I had thought of this
18:57 ADC_             Where can i get that from
18:55 caroline         you could try exporting the default and FA in CSV, copy the lines from the default CSV to the FA CSV and reimport it?
18:53 ADC_             It will not let me delete it and start over either
18:53 ADC_             The fast add framework
18:52 caroline         Did you remove them from the default framework or one of the other ones?
18:51 ADC_             It will not let me add anything back either. Do you know what i can do
18:50 caroline         It's always better, in my opinion, to 'hide' the fields rather than delete them. But those two specifically (000 and 008) should not be hidden or deleted at all
18:49 caroline         A lot of functionalities rest on those fields
18:48 caroline         eesh... that's not a good idea...
18:48 ADC_             I deleted  a few fields like 000 and 008 and some others.
18:45 caroline         The visibility 'Editor' needs to be checked for 952$p (if you are using MARC21)
18:44 caroline         did you hide it?
18:38 ADC_             I need help figuring out what happen to the add item section in one of my frameworks. I edited some fields and now i can't add a barcode.
16:32 cait             lukeg++ :)
15:51 cait             caroline++
13:10 huginn           04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33590 normal, P5 - low, ---, slavashishkin, Needs Signoff , WRAPPER tab_panel breaks JS on some pages (Select all/Clear all, post-Ajax updates)
13:10 cait             caroline: if you have time later, bug 33590 would be great - it includes, but not only, the broken select all/unselect all link in serial collection
13:05 cait             good luck with training!
13:04 cait             caroline: thanks :) i just failed it I am afraid :(
12:55 caroline         I have training this morning, but I can SO after
12:55 caroline         hi cait!
12:34 huginn           04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33639 trivial, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Needs Signoff , Adding item to item group from 'Add item' screen doesn't work
12:34 cait             Someone available for a SO on bug 33639?
12:32 cait             hi caroline
12:28 cait             just waiting for my ktd pull to finish
12:27 cait             :)
12:27 * khall          waves
12:27 * cait           waves at khall
11:59 mtj              if you have an existing scanner attached to a circ computer, you can probably repurpose that
11:51 mtj              thomas63[m]: you could also attach a usb/bluetooth barcode scanner to your fone/tablet
11:32 thomas63[m]      thomas63[m]: I also thought about the Firefox plugin on a mobile phone, but then there is no way to use the camera as a scanner (at least I do not see a way).
11:30 thomas63[m]      to share the solution here.
11:30 thomas63[m]      <davidnind> "thomas63: thinking out load here..." <- thanks… I think about using in a first step an existing barcode scanner app from the appstore, and simply scan the borrower’s card and the book‘s barcodes in defined order. The app allows to export the scans with timestamp to a .csv file. Doing then the rest with simple Excel functions on a PC, when the power is back. I guess, it’s not really complicated. When it works, I am happy
11:23 paulderscheid[m] tolu
11:23 paulderscheid[m] What do you need help with?
09:50 tolu             I need help on installing koha, please  help
09:21 * cait           waves
08:32 tolu             Good Morning here
07:25 davidnind        .. loud..
07:15 davidnind        thomas63: thinking out load here, maybe you could install the Firefox extension on a mobile device and use that (disclaimer - I have not tried it!) https://koha-community.org/manual/23.05/en/html/circulation.html#firefox-plugin
07:00 davidnind        thomas63: ^^ this is an example file I used when testing a bug some time ago - can't remember how I worked out what is required (or the bug number...)
06:59 pastebot         "davidnind" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Example .koc file" (5 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/9076
06:57 thomas63[m]      ok, I know, RTFM 😁, I finally found it 👍
05:24 thomas63[m]      is there somewhere a description how this Upload offline circulation file (.koc) must be created, with an own tool? I mean the exact file structure?
05:15 thomas63[m]      this list, I hoped it’s possible to import it into Koha.
05:15 thomas63[m]      thanks, I already found that, but this still needs a PC running. Unfortunately in NZ we have more power outages as in Europe. I think having a mobile phone running during a power outage is more realistic, than having a PC running. I already found a „stupid“ barcode scanner app for my iPhone, which at the end can export the data, which would simply be numbers of borrowers and numbers of books with timestamps. With some reformatting of
05:06 mtj              hi thomas63[m]: try https://bywatersolutions.com/education/monday-minutes-offline-circulation-tool
04:51 thomas63[m]      list in any specific format?
04:51 thomas63[m]      what are other libraries do in case of a power outage? In ours, librarians write down the borrower and the book‘s number and title to a sheet of paper. And maybe you can imagine, that this is extremely prone to error. And I mean a power outage, and all computers are down… Is there a mobile app, which scans the borrower’s member card and the book barcodes? And then export that later somehow to Koha? Is there any interface to process a
04:48 thomas63[m]      hi there