Time Nick Message
23:58 aleisha nice find re: the encoding of the hash dcook
23:45 aleisha fair, glad we could be the guinea pigs for you! our upgrade process for the libraries on community koha is automated so we missed this until it became a problem
23:42 dcook aleisha: Yeah I thought about updating to 22.11.04, but I decided that the build change was too new to move forward with right now.
23:39 aleisha awesome dcook ! was getting worried it was just an 'us' problem but couldn't work out what we would've been doing wrong :(
23:22 dcook aleisha: I'm getting closer to working out that flatpickr issue I think
23:08 * dcook_ waves
23:08 aleisha hello
17:47 davidnind lukeg: no problem!
17:36 lukeg thanks for all the sign-offs/testing!
17:36 lukeg davidnind++
15:12 thd thanks for holding the meeting without an additional postponement tcohen.
15:11 tcohen busy days for everyone a month before the release
15:10 tcohen thanks for all atendees
15:08 cait tcohen++
15:08 cait thany ou tcohen
15:08 oleonard tcohen++
15:08 huginn Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2023/development_irc_meeting_26_april_2023.2023-04-26-14.31.log.html
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15:08 tcohen #endmeeting
15:08 tcohen thanks everyone
15:08 cait ok
15:07 cait I think if we start this proces, we should fix for all
15:07 thd Better to start with one and learn something.
15:07 thd The same problem is present for all the lists but no one has raised the issue in relation to the other lists.
15:07 tcohen #info Next meeting: 10 May 2023, 14:00 UTC
15:06 cait is ist not also present for theothers?
15:06 cait koha-devel etc.
15:06 thd The general mailing list is still Katipo about which the issue was raised.
15:06 cait they host all mailing lists but Koha
15:06 cait thd: I think biblibre mostly
15:05 thd Them is perhaps the Koha founders who once worked there.
15:04 tcohen can you contact them?
15:04 tcohen and we might need to advertise the topics on the list so interested people are around
15:04 thd but we need input from Katipo to consider properly.
15:04 tcohen I'd say defer to next meeting
15:03 thd Certainly,
15:03 tcohen thd: we don't have quorum to decide anything on that today
15:03 thd The issue of DMARC compaitibility for the mailing list needs input from Katipo. MIME nesting seems not to be a serious choice as no one seems to have notice of implementing that.
15:03 reiveune bye
15:02 tcohen #topic Set time of next meeting
15:02 tcohen #action cait and ashimema will put together the TODO notes from the hackfest on the Wiki
15:00 cait i just don't want them to get lost there
15:00 ashimema action cait, and she can grab me if needed
15:00 cait yep,t hey are on the agenda
15:00 ashimema I made notes
15:00 cait can you action me plz?
15:00 cait I#ll try
15:00 tcohen are you volunteering?
15:00 cait maybe as a todo in the wiki?
15:00 cait we shoudl save the list
14:59 tcohen #info Development documentation (from the hackfest): nothing to discuss here. People do their best. If you want to spend time on documenting the listed things, and need guidance, contact us by any means
14:58 tcohen #info perldoc.k-c is outdated, we need to investigate and have it update more frecquently
14:57 tcohen [off] he blames constant nodejs dependencies changes
14:57 cait [off] that makes snse, but hope it's not a hard fix
14:57 cait i think gmcharlt_
14:56 tcohen [off] Bernardo says the commands are erroring and that's why strings haven't got updated yet. HE's working on it right now
14:55 tcohen Do we know who maintains perldoc.koha-community.org?
14:55 tcohen #info We need to upgrade Gitea, and move to Forgejo. Anyone willing to spend time on that please contact tcohen
14:54 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30002 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, ASSIGNED , Add project-level perltidyrc
14:54 tcohen #info We need to agree on a default Perltidy configuration. See bug 30002. To be voted next meeting.
14:54 tcohen done
14:54 cait thank you
14:52 tcohen #action tcohen to send email about roles for 23.11
14:52 cait would someone send to the mailing list please?
14:52 tcohen #info Roles for 23.11 are open. Please put your name here: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_23.11
14:51 tcohen #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ..
14:51 tcohen I'd skip the next ones today
14:51 tcohen #info CSRF day postponed for after the release
14:50 tcohen #info Selenium and Cypress tests are passing already
14:50 tcohen #topic Actions from last meeting
14:50 cait yep
14:49 tcohen moving on?
14:49 cait thank you
14:49 cait but if you do.. please also DO QA :)
14:49 ashimema I'm not releasing you give me the go cait
14:49 cait please sign up for QA if you can - need more hands always
14:49 tcohen I don't think it has finished yet
14:49 cait I also put up the roles page for 23.11
14:49 cait [off] ashimema: can you give me a go at transaltions still? I can finish tonight
14:48 tcohen [off] and I've got the command
14:48 cait #info Numbers are constantly above 100, I hope we can push down some more, lots of bugs (faulty behaviour) ones too
14:48 tcohen [off] Bernardo has fired the update script
14:48 tcohen cait++
14:47 cait #info Need more action from the whole QA team to fix the QA queue
14:47 cait again? :)
14:47 tcohen don't get distracted :-P
14:46 tcohen your turn, cait
14:46 tcohen #topic Updates from the QA Team
14:46 tcohen Maybe we finish the FA upgrade next cycle
14:46 ashimema oleonard++
14:46 oleonard I'm making good progress! Thanks to all for testing and QA
14:46 cait PedroAmorim++
14:45 cait oleonard++
14:45 tcohen #info kudos to oleonard for his intensive work on streamlining the UI and normalizing the way we do things
14:45 cait yes, QA is too low... I have asked QA team to fix it...
14:44 tcohen #info Great work from PedroAmorim[m] to speed up the ILL requests page
14:44 cait i missed my topic
14:44 cait oh
14:44 tcohen #info ILL backends into core delayed for next cycle
14:44 khall #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions
14:44 tcohen #info Generic solution for CSRF delayed for early next cycle, unfortunately
14:43 tcohen #info Lots of things done or almost done
14:43 tcohen #link https://annuel.framapad.org/p/Roadmap_for_Koha_v23.05
14:42 tcohen #topic Status of roadmap projects
14:42 ashimema I've not been on QA much this month.. trying desperately hard to keep up on other commitments
14:41 tcohen hehe
14:41 ashimema just made it đ
14:41 ashimema #info 22.11.x is behind on this months release whilst we try to get strings sorted
14:41 tcohen #topic Updates from the QA Team
14:41 tcohen Skipping
14:41 tcohen rmaints?
14:41 tcohen #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers
14:40 tcohen #info Email sent to koha-translate to start the conversation about switching to another tool begining next cycle
14:40 tcohen #info tcohen asked the Translation Manager to hand us the commands that are used in Pootle to update things, so we have more hands able to do it
14:40 cait I'll have if you fail things :)
14:39 tcohen moving on? questino?
14:39 tcohen #info Contact tcohen if you really want your stuff pushed, so we have a clear understanding of the steps that follow and the chances they have to get pushed
14:38 tcohen #info Looking closely to a design discussion on Vue-land
14:38 tcohen #info Lots of things pushed, several interesting ones to get in in the next weeks. Hurry!
14:37 tcohen #topic Update from the Release Manager (23.05)
14:37 cait tcohen++
14:37 tcohen moving on
14:37 tcohen #info Join at https://koha-us.org/2023/04/06/spring-into-fitness-koha-community-challenge-2023/
14:37 tcohen #info 'Spring into Fitness: Koha Community Challenge 2023 (koha-US and ByWater Solutions)'
14:36 tcohen #action tcohen will reinforce it tomorrow
14:36 tcohen #info Andrii sent a reminder to the lists
14:35 cait too much this week and next week I'll have more time but too late
14:35 cait sorry not volunteering this time
14:34 tcohen say, tomorrow?
14:34 tcohen can anyone send a reminder to the lists?
14:34 tcohen #info Call for talks closes April 30th
14:33 tcohen #info KohaCon23 Update:
14:33 tcohen #topic Announcements
14:33 tcohen 10 more seconds
14:32 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe
14:32 tcohen hi thd, nice to see you around (and everyone else of course)
14:32 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
14:32 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA
14:32 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
14:32 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi
14:32 tcohen #topic Introductions
14:31 tcohen #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_26_April_2023 Today's agenda
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14:31 huginn Meeting started Wed Apr 26 14:31:28 2023 UTC. The chair is tcohen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:31 tcohen #startmeeting Development IRC Meeting 26 April 2023
14:31 cait next meetings?
14:31 cait but really anyone can
14:31 cait i can fire it up and make someone chari
14:31 cait we also probably need a plan for kohacon2024
14:30 tcohen can someone fire it up?
14:30 cait I need to finish something to send out - really only half here I ama fraid
14:30 cait also realyl happy if somoene else could do that one
14:30 tcohen agenda?
14:30 tcohen yeah
14:30 cait sending email about roles page etc
14:30 cait we need to action some stuff
14:30 tcohen let's have a small meeting
14:30 ashimema not many
14:29 ashimema less meetings, more doings I feel is the current status
14:29 tcohen is anyone around?
14:29 cait is next week too soon?
14:29 cait It not good at all, but I think we need to move again
14:29 ashimema honestly.. I'm also burning out here
14:29 * ashimema poked tcohen to see if we want to run it
14:29 thd Not enough people present for whom to chair.
14:28 cait but I really don't have time to chair right now :(
14:28 cait at least
14:27 cait we pused that one 2 tiems already I think
14:27 thd Yes, a low quorum.
14:27 cait this is bad
14:27 oleonard cait: There doesn't seem to be a quorum anyway
14:27 cait still doing training this week, that makes it a little more difficult for me than usual
14:27 thd cait: Are you chairing the meeting?
14:26 cait oleonard: sorry here now
14:26 thd People miss a something for whatever reason and the postponed date/time does not signify with people.
14:12 paulderscheid[m] Dev meeting seems to be dead
14:11 ashimema i'm only vaguely here
14:10 oleonard cait ashimema Joubu tcohen kidclamp ?
14:10 oleonard No wahanui :(
14:09 oleonard qa_team?
14:09 * oleonard bangs pots and pans together to wake everyone up
14:07 thd Is there a previously postponed meeting now?
13:30 TriveniChandriki[m] please help me on this
13:30 TriveniChandriki[m] search is not working
13:29 TriveniChandriki[m] /koha-dev/var/log/z3950-error.log (Permission denied) at /usr/share/perl5/Log/Log4perl/Appender/File.pm line 151.: /home/mittlib/kohaclone/catalogue/search.pl, referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?q=a
13:29 TriveniChandriki[m] good evening
13:29 TriveniChandriki[m] hi all
13:28 ashimema excellent
13:26 tcohen it doesn't rely on distro-shipped yarn/node, but the official one, on the right version
13:25 ashimema thanks tcohen
13:25 tcohen and builds 22.11 packages correctly
13:25 tcohen mtj: koha-dpkg-docker is now functional
13:25 tcohen I asked him to share his recipe
13:23 cait I'll have an eye on pootle
13:22 ashimema thanks
13:22 tcohen poked him
13:21 ashimema I've prompted bernardo twice I think.. no replies so far
13:21 ashimema exactly
13:21 ashimema we announced freeze, but pootle hasn't got the latest yet
13:21 tcohen haven't been updated?
13:21 ashimema 22.11 strings
13:19 tcohen what is it?
13:17 tcohen hola
13:17 cait tcohen: can you help? i believe bernardo just needs to trigger a script
13:07 oleonard I guess sometimes Docker just isn't meant to be upgraded...
11:09 paulderscheid[m] And we could stay on the same version across koha versions + debian versions
11:09 paulderscheid[m] Maybe we could use nvm or even better fnm to install node instead of the packed version. Would give us more control mtj
10:53 mtj its possible that bullseye's version of node is too old (v12), so we need to get a newer version? (v14)
10:49 mtj the build-packages page on the wiki, has been updated with steps to install working node/yarn/gulp versions
10:48 mtj https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way
10:35 mtj i dont think i've tried using the pkg versions from the debian.org repo
10:32 mtj its possible that different versions of node/yarn/gulp might cause problems?
10:27 ashimema nice one
10:26 mtj if you grep for 'gulp-cli', you can see the node/yarn/gulp versions and install method
10:25 mtj ^ thats the build.log for the 22.11.04 package
10:25 mtj http://deb.kohaaloha.com/koha/deb/22.11.x/build.log
10:22 ashimema I have no idea what they're doing..
10:22 ashimema đ
10:22 ashimema that's the idea
10:22 ashimema exactly
10:20 mtj ashimema: yes, afaik, fresh js/css gets built from Makefile.PL
10:19 ashimema coolios
10:19 ashimema so it's not out community packages that are the problem
10:16 mtj hi ashimema, they are building their own
10:16 ashimema packages for 22.11 are building the js and css correctly at packaging time right?
10:15 mtj hi tcohen, im about for a while, if you like to chat about docker package stuff
10:15 ashimema but.. I don't know if they're using packages or building their own?
10:15 ashimema Aleisha seems to be suggesting their 22.11.04 installs arent working
10:14 huginn 04Bug 32609: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs documenting , Remove compiled files from src
10:14 ashimema https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32609
10:14 ashimema not sure really..
10:14 ashimema hi mtj
10:13 oleonard Hi #koha
10:10 mtj ashimema: can i help with anything?
10:09 mtj hey #koha
09:10 ashimema we're getting massively behind on the queue now too because of this
09:10 ashimema I've chased again
09:06 magnuse nb-NO 22.11 has not had any new strings to translate in a month
09:01 ashimema I just don't have time to chase this stuff up again
09:00 cait de-DE
09:00 cait check german, i didn't translate 22.11 for sure yet
09:00 ashimema how does one tell?
09:00 ashimema i have no idea
09:00 cait ashimema: are there strings to translate? I could do them in an hour or so
08:58 magnuse *sites
08:58 magnuse looks like some other site of ours have the same problem, but not all
08:48 ashimema ah, good call
08:47 magnuse this seems to have fixed it: update borrowers set date_renewed = NULL where date_renewed = '0000-00-00';
08:45 magnuse the date_renewed column has some proper dates, some NULLs and some 0000-00-00
08:45 ashimema aleisha was reporting issues with the js/css build stuff on a bug too..
08:45 magnuse :+1
08:44 ashimema I'm hoping to roll 22.11.05 later today
08:43 ashimema âšī¸
08:42 magnuse anyone else seen that?
08:42 magnuse huh? upgraded to 22.11.04 last night and now some patron searches give a 500 error from the api, and this in the plack-api-error.log: [WARN] OpenAPI >>> GET api/v1/patrons [{"message":"Month out of range.","path":"\/body\/19\/date_renewed"},{"message":"Month out of range.","path":"\/body\/4\/date_renewed"},{"message":"Month out of range.","path":"\/body\/9\/date_renewed"}]
07:13 cait good morning #koha