Time Nick Message 19:14 cait thx :) 19:13 davidnind I'm working through the two requiring sign off now 19:11 cait shoudl we ask on ml or so for sign-offs? 19:11 cait oleonard: awesome 18:42 oleonard As far as I can tell it's time to retire the "built-in" offline circulation system. 18:41 oleonard-away cait1 I think that's all the breadcrumb wrapper patches... Except for offline circ which I don't want to deal with XD 17:15 huginn tcohen: mtj was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 7 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <mtj> look for spikes in busy apache processes, for a start 17:15 tcohen @seen mtj 15:52 reiveune bye 15:23 cait2 I don't think they are mapped to any MARC fields by default, or are they? 15:22 cait2 we don't ever use them right now 15:22 cait2 I am not sure if cn_source woudl be inherited to the item... 15:22 cait2 ashimema: i think they don't do anything actually 15:15 * ashimema can't seem to trace the code back 15:15 ashimema do you happen to know 15:15 ashimema are cn_source, cn_class, cn_item, cn_suggix and cn_sort in the biblioitems table all doing stuff.. 15:15 ashimema cait2 still around? 15:08 cait2 oh 3 am - daylight savings 15:07 cait2 5 am in nz now :) 15:06 tcohen need to talk about the build pipeline 15:06 tcohen mtj: can we schedule a call in a couple hours? 13:19 tcohen I really want your feedback on that one 13:18 tcohen cool, thanks marcelr 13:16 marcelr i can add qa stamp after signoff 13:15 marcelr tcohen: i agree with it but couldnt test it 13:11 tcohen marcelr, #koha this needs urgent attention 33576 13:07 mtj look for spikes in busy apache processes, for a start 13:05 mtj cabillman[m]: no probs, consider installing munin (or similar) on the servers, to track its behavior 13:00 cabillman[m] thanks for helping think this through 12:59 cabillman[m] i'm still thinking this might have just been timeout related with my connection dropping on/off and the vpn 12:59 cabillman[m] things seem to be ok right now with our actual users in 12:57 cabillman[m] the second time i let it go and it eventually fixed itself. CPU was 0 the entire time 12:57 cabillman[m] the first time things were locked up i bounced plack and everything was fine 12:56 cabillman[m] mtj: I was testing with curl on the server itself. Apache didn't respond so I tried the plack unix socket 12:56 mtj cabillman[m]: try accessing koha via apache, rather than the plack socket 12:55 marcelr i would not recommend running Koha on mysql8 given such things btw 12:55 mtj https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xvfb 12:53 tcohen marcelr++ 12:53 mtj ..and run firefox from there 12:52 mtj you can test locally on the server using 'apt install xvfb x11vnc fluxbox' 12:51 mtj hi cabillman[m], yeah.. its likely its a network issue 12:50 cabillman[m] I couldn't even curl the plack unix socket, it would just hang 12:50 cabillman[m] I suspect this might have just been a timeout issue with jumping on/off the vpn because and holding up the plack processes 12:49 cabillman[m] mtj: these were new servers for an upgrade/migration and I was the only one able to access them via a VPN 12:41 ashimema nice one 12:40 cait2 marcel++ 12:39 marcelr tcohen, solved two mysql peculiarities on 33584 now for Jenkins to go green 12:37 marcelr still able to confirm ? 12:37 marcelr davidnind: i tested now myself with mysql8, could reproduce and fixed it 12:33 cait2 tcohen++ 12:27 mtj cabillman[m]: its often webcrawlers or big sql reports that cause koha service problems 12:23 mtj have you changed anything recently? can you replicate the problem on a test system? 12:22 mtj cabillman[m]: is this a new koha? have your recently upgraded? did the problem happen previously? etc 12:21 mtj cabillman[m]: having your koha split between servers introduces complexity 12:09 * tcohen loves it, just didn't expect so much work this monday 12:07 cait2 ;) 12:07 cait2 tcohen: you don't like your queue? 12:06 mtj cabillman[m]: you probably want to start with apache and plack logging 12:03 mtj perfect 12:03 mtj https://docs.weblate.org/en/latest/admin/install/docker.html 12:02 tcohen https://github.com/WeblateOrg/docker-compose 12:02 mtj https://hub.docker.com/r/weblate/weblate 12:02 mtj tcohen: hmm not yet, i did a manual install on a ldev vm 12:01 mtj ashimema could apply his fixes in one go 12:01 tcohen mtj do you have a docker-compose for running it? 12:01 mtj being able to export translations, search/replace, then upload - would be useful 11:59 tcohen weblate++ 11:59 mtj ashimema: i have been looking a bit at weblate, it has some nice bulk import features 11:58 mtj hey #koha 11:56 marcelr hmm 11:53 tcohen yikes 11:53 tcohen really? 70 PQA bugs?= 11:53 tcohen davidnind: 14 UTC is correct 11:52 marcelr davidnind++ ## thx for testing mysql 8, will have another look 11:50 * tcohen checks local time to avoid confusions with daylight saving things 11:49 davidnind tcohen: so 13:00? 11:48 tcohen should we make a decision on gitea -> forgejo? 11:47 marcelr o/ 11:46 tcohen one hour earlier would be the best for me 11:46 tcohen thank you so much davidnind 11:31 davidnind tcohen: I've set up the agenda and calendar entry for the next Development IRC Meeting for the 26 April 2023 14:00 UTC (I moved it forward an hour from 15:00) - feel free to change the time if you would like it earlier or later 11:25 cait2 davidnind++ :) 11:25 cait2 ah! 11:24 davidnind cait2: it should be there now (I had incorrectly just added it to my own calendar instead of the Koha Community calendar... 11:22 cait2 davidnind: did you add it manually? we might have been supposedto run the script, the calendar entry is not there yet 11:21 davidnind hehe 11:20 cait2 similar with this davidnind it seems! 11:18 davidnind cait2: it will be 2am here, but as you say you never know with mtj... 11:18 davidnind I've created an agenda for the Development Meeting for this week, 26 April (have made the time an hour earlier) https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_26_April_2023 11:17 cait2 might be the wrong time for mtj, but you never know 11:13 cabillman[m] elastic, mysql, and opac are all on separate servers 11:13 cabillman[m] so this particular box has 4 cpu's and 16gb of ram. Only running the intranet, zebra, and memcache 11:10 cabillman[m] mtj: I would be shocked if resources is the issue. I have the functions split up because in the past student searches would impact our staff's ability to complete circulation 11:08 davidnind also making it an hour earlier 11:05 davidnind I think we just make it at the normal time for this Wednesday 11:05 cait switching computers, bakc in a bit 11:04 cait if a date has been set, that would be great - or maybe we just make it wednesday? 11:04 cait davidnind: I am not sure if a date was set yet or not - the wiki 'next meetings' said 12th 11:04 oleonard marcelr: No, but the Firefox console does seem to link to the problematic line in jquery.treetable 11:04 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_23.11 < it's open! 11:03 davidnind cait: do you want me to set things up for this week for the dev meeting? 11:00 marcelr this line number 1245 does not really help 11:00 marcelr great davidnind or at least good to know :) 10:59 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 10:59 cait @later tell tuxayo has the dev meeting be rescheduled yet? (do you know?) 10:57 davidnind marcelr: I see the error if I delete all the budgets 10:55 davidnind cait++ 10:53 cait no vetos :) 10:51 cait I'll set pu the roles page for 23.11, ok? 10:46 marcelr hi tcohen 10:46 tcohen hola #koha 10:45 marcelr seeing also jQuery.Deferred exception: this.data(...) is undefined expandAll@https://DOMAIN/intranet-tmpl/lib/jquery/plugins/treetable/jquery.treetable_22.1200022.js:481:12 10:44 oleonard I don't see the error, but that seems like a likely place to look 10:43 marcelr i think so, quite fresh install 10:42 oleonard marcelr: Do you have no budgets or funds? 10:40 marcelr wrong window 10:40 marcelr y 10:40 marcelr thx 10:40 davidnind yes, tried in FireFox and in Google Chrome 10:37 marcelr i guess my acq is very empty here 10:37 marcelr ok it might be data dependent 10:37 marcelr in your browser dev console 10:36 davidnind marcelr: I'm not seeing that on master 10:34 marcelr Seeing this too? Goto Acquisition home. Check console for: Uncaught TypeError: this.data(...) is undefined jQuery 2 <anonymous> https://DOMAIN/cgi-bin/koha/acqui/acqui-home.pl:1245 jQuery 13 10:27 oleonard Hi #koha 09:55 cait1 but we won't be able to pitch in with running/hosting something I am afraid 09:55 cait1 I am open to help testing something else 09:54 ashimema I won't have time anyway today.. 09:53 cait I don't have any errors witht he files, but it would be nice if the web interface detected fatal errors... 09:53 cait (release without translations) 09:52 cait ashimema: i'd be a little upset... I know they will install it right away probably 08:51 ashimema it shouldn't be this hard to reset 08:51 ashimema at some point one of the scripts borked them I think.. 08:51 ashimema ours are a right mess.. sysprefs are all mixed up for example 08:51 marcelr correct=offline change 08:50 marcelr i tend to only correct really bad translations and just live with the others 08:50 ashimema it's a nightmare 08:49 marcelr it is quite laborious the whole process 08:49 ashimema pootle is no longer fit for purpose 08:49 ashimema not having offline translations is a nightmare frankly 08:49 ashimema I'm really annoyed with translations right now to be frank.. the en-GB is totally screwed up and I'm unable to fix it without spending hundreds of hours clicking through each bloody 'suggestion' 08:48 huginn marcelr: The operation succeeded. 08:48 marcelr @later tell tcohen please have a look at 33584 08:48 ashimema I actually was considering spinning the release today.. i presume people would be upset with that given the strings are still behind 08:45 marcelr ok 08:45 ashimema afraid not here 08:45 marcelr anyone of you having a mysql8 db server at hand ? 08:38 ashimema yikes 08:38 ashimema 5.40am to be more precise.. 08:38 ashimema It's 6am in argentina.. I'll try and catch Bernardo in a few hours 08:37 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] Not heard anything about strings yet 08:29 marcelr o/ 07:51 krimsonkharne[m] hi #koha 06:46 reiveune hello 06:37 cait1 MatthewBlenkinsop[m]: sorry, I don't know the other nicks right now - do you know anything from Bernardo? 06:36 cait1 no strng update for 22.11 yet :( 06:08 magnuse_ \o/ 04:31 thomas63[m] I think I found it, so ignore my request for now, will try what I found.... 03:41 thomas63[m] Hi there... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/hlmQcByNipFjKiydUJZmZUWy>)