Time  Nick                  Message
20:57 cait                  back on the aliases now
20:56 cait                  Joubu++
20:55 cait                  thx for the help :)
20:53 cait                  I'll try to do that next time
20:52 Joubu                 it's easier to remove the node_modules directory and let ktd does the things for you
20:50 cait                  you were right, that fixed it
20:48 cait                  I#ll try yarn instal
20:48 huginn                04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33066 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to master , We need a KohaTable Vue component
20:48 cait                  i just posted the errors in full on bug 33066
20:48 cait                  and shut down my ktd twice now
20:48 cait                  i did that
20:48 Joubu                 if you have /kohadevbox/koha/node_modules, then you need to either remove it, or run `yarn install`
20:47 Joubu                 well, should have been run by ktd startup
20:47 Joubu                 yarn build?
20:38 cait                  Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: currentRenderingInstance is null
20:37 cait                  and the tables are not showing
20:37 cait                  I have git pulled, ktd pulled
20:37 cait                  hm the ERM module seems broken :(
16:30 cait                  thank you kidclamp :)
16:30 kidclamp              https://github.com/bywatersolutions/koha-plugin-opac-marc-search
16:29 cait                  to the plugin
16:28 cait                  can you maybe point me to it?
16:28 kidclamp              Or look the at Marc search plugin we have
16:28 kidclamp              Yeah, I don't know the exact syntax, but can find later
16:27 cait                  kidclamp: ^
16:24 cait                  ?
16:24 cait                  i could tell it to search marc xxx
16:24 cait                  i mean without having a specific index defined
16:24 cait                  hm so without the index... i coudl do a marc field search?
16:23 kidclamp              The other gives you the ability to query specific Marc Fields as well
16:23 kidclamp              Marc unless someone asks
16:23 cait                  kidclamp: what do you use?
16:22 cait                  so have to learn myself
16:22 kidclamp              One takes less space
16:22 cait                  paulderscheid[m]: understanding mostly - I am giving training next week and they are using Elasticsearch, but we don't yet :)
16:22 cait                  kidclamp++ also :)
16:22 cait                  is it recommended to do one or theother?
16:19 kidclamp              Otherwise we store compiled Marc
16:19 kidclamp              Then you can have full search again
16:19 kidclamp              Unless you change the format for es records to searchable array
16:09 caroline              cait, I'm not an expert either, but from the behaviour I observed, yes "everything" in ES is "everything that is indexed". So if a subfield is not indexed in a specific index, it will never show up in search
16:03 paulderscheid[m]      What do you want to achieve. I'm 4 sure no expert, btw :D
16:01 cait                  paulderscheid[m]: ping? :)
16:01 cait                  kidclamp: ping? :)
15:58 cait                  From testing I think it's only "What is indexed somehow", but not completely sure
15:58 cait                  like: any index: Zebre: full record. Elasticsearch: ?
15:57 cait                  I am updating some training materials we have... and have some questions
15:57 cait                  hm any Elasticserach experts aruond?
15:41 ashimema              ?
15:40 tcohen                paulderscheid[m]: great!
15:40 tcohen                ashimema: worth a try?
15:40 tcohen                Joubu: no yarn.lock changes with yarn install
15:20 reiveune              bye
14:41 paulderscheid[m]      I think I can finally appreciate the Koha::Objects implementation đŸĨŗ First time I actually went through the whole thing.
14:20 ashimema              it would be trivial with dt 1.11.. but needs some extra wrapper code for our version ☚ī¸
14:19 ashimema              I wish we could just get the column handling without enabling all the rest.. maybe make the other state stuff more optional
14:19 ashimema              though I agree with Joubu's fears.. enabling it by default for all could be really rather jarring
14:16 tcohen                +1
14:06 huginn                04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33484 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , Generalise table saveState for all tables
14:06 ashimema              bug 33484
13:28 Joubu                 also for PedroAmorim[m] ^^
13:28 Joubu                 I would not spend time on it before we have 33408 pushed to master
13:28 huginn                04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33408 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Fetch sysprefs from svc/config/systempreferences
13:28 Joubu                 bug 33408
13:28 Joubu                 it's not that one...
13:27 huginn                04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32983 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs documenting , Use REST API route to retrieve authorised values
13:27 Joubu                 it happens in AfterAll (when we are click outside the Vue app), and it's removed by bug 32983
13:27 Joubu                 tcohen: about the cypress failure Koha_Master/2471 - this is (again) a random one. I don't recreate it right now locally, but I have seen similar one
13:26 cait                  hi caroline :)
13:19 caroline              good morning!
13:10 ashimema              so we do need it
13:10 ashimema              darn
13:10 Joubu                 1.10.18
13:08 ashimema              what dt are we on these days?
13:08 ashimema              thus we could grab from the stored variable regardless..
13:08 ashimema              looking at the docs.. I'm not sure if we actually need to set saveState.. it looks like since 1.11. datatables stores it regardless and only uses it if set to true
13:07 ashimema              but it also expects you to set saveState so has side effects..
13:07 ashimema              it uses saveState to do the column stuff
13:07 ashimema              it does more that I think it says on the box
13:07 ashimema              the patch we pushed is a bit half way
13:06 Joubu                 and it keeps the column filtering (there is a dedicated patch for that so I guess the implementation we pushed recently does not do that)
13:05 Joubu                 it modifies the url, so the back button will work as expected
13:03 ashimema              that does similar does it not?
13:03 ashimema              🙂
13:02 huginn                04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27467 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , Provide a static URL for tables
13:02 Joubu                 bug 27467 is the way :D
12:56 ashimema              we appear to expect the columns_settings form still rather than the table_settings for we switched to
12:55 ashimema              did anyone test this works as is.. now I dig through the code it doesn't look quite right
12:55 ashimema              hmm
12:48 Joubu                 at least to avoid 1 bug per table! :)
12:48 Joubu                 ashimema: yes please, do it :D
12:48 ashimema              I really shouldn't have let myself get distracted by this
12:47 paulderscheid[m]      That'd be my expectation of that feature.
12:47 paulderscheid[m]      I like the idea of having my table states saved during a session. When I log in the next day I'd expect everything to be reset.
12:47 Joubu                 yes, that's why I am not against an implementation that will "do it for all" (if we can disable it :D)
12:47 ashimema              but I get your point also about making it optional to the end user somehow
12:46 ashimema              yeah.. it's the one bug per table that was annoying me Joubu
12:46 cait                  Joubu: ashimema was working ons omething globally i think
12:46 paulderscheid[m]      Haha
12:46 Joubu                 1 bug report per table we have in Koha?
12:46 cait                  ok, so maybe we just keep the columns?
12:46 ashimema              I've created a hornets nest
12:46 cait                  i meant we could make the feature broader if people ask for it
12:46 Joubu                 some tables will be configured like that and others not?
12:46 ashimema              lol
12:46 Joubu                 'on demand' is also awful
12:45 Joubu                 at least please let me disable it globally :D
12:45 paulderscheid[m]      It's rather useful in a single session.
12:45 Joubu                 it's awful IMO. If you search for something and find it, click, go navigate, etc. Then come back again (even the day after), the table will be displayed filtered, sorted, etc. like it was before
12:45 cait                  hm we can start there and still extend I guess 'on demand' :)
12:45 cait                  although for some tables it could still be super useful
12:44 paulderscheid[m]      That sounds like a logical approach.
12:44 cait                  yes, maybe
12:43 ashimema              another option.. only enable it where table_settings is passed?
12:43 paulderscheid[m]      I think cait has a great point there. If you navigate in a single tab, the stateSave would be insanely useful.
12:42 ashimema              I'll stick a patch somewhere and people can adopt it and take it forward
12:42 ashimema              well
12:42 ashimema              I understand your point cait
12:42 ashimema              mmm
12:42 ashimema              that could be more confusing
12:42 cait                  if you jump back and forth from the page (a lot of people don't use tabs) that would proably be nice?
12:41 paulderscheid[m]      Yeah
12:41 ashimema              and pagination.
12:41 ashimema              reading the datatables page is appears to save more.. like the current filter/search and things?
12:41 ashimema              I think the bit that surprised me here was I initially thought it was just about columns
12:41 paulderscheid[m]      I see your point.
12:40 ashimema              also true
12:40 ashimema              I'm tempted to only require 'stateSave: true' and do the rest internally though.. rather than require devs to add all the other bits for each table themselves
12:40 paulderscheid[m]      On the other hand one could argue that the tables are straightforward enough in ergonomics to easily set it how you want it again.
12:39 ashimema              that worried me slightly too
12:38 ashimema              mmm
12:38 paulderscheid[m]      This is a useful feature but I think enabling it by default may lead to confusion for some users.
12:33 * ashimema            is looking at moving the code to centralise it a bit
12:33 ashimema              do we want to just outright enable stateSave for all datatables.. or require we set it?
12:32 huginn                04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22276 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Add client storage of user-selected DataTables configuration
12:32 ashimema              bug 22276 and friends
12:32 cait                  paulderscheid++
12:32 cait                  thx paulderscheid[m]
12:31 paulderscheid[m]      I'm still adjusting the infrastructure anyway. When setup properly there'll probably be an email registration.
12:26 cait                  similar for me... not getting distracted
12:10 ashimema              but at some point maybe 😉
12:10 paulderscheid[m]      Alright
12:10 ashimema              still catching up on all the things at the minute so best not let myself get distracted
12:10 paulderscheid[m]      You want one too ashimema ?
12:09 ashimema              Nice
12:09 oleonard              Oh cool, thanks!
12:08 paulderscheid[m]      I have an instance running for testing. I'll dm you the creds
12:08 oleonard              I was planning to
12:07 paulderscheid[m]      Do you want to check out penpot?
12:07 oleonard              yes
12:07 paulderscheid[m]      Are you there oleonard ?
10:52 TriveniChandriki[m]   <cait> "I don't run things in a git..." <- Ok
10:47 cait                  hi oleonard :)
10:45 oleonard              o/
10:23 cait                  I think the paths are probably wrong
10:23 cait                  I don't run things in a git installation - I can't help you more than that
10:06 TriveniChandriki[m]   In data any issues is there
10:06 TriveniChandriki[m]   This one different system aslo testing. Same problem
10:05 cait                  then you probably have an issue with the paths
10:01 TriveniChandriki[m]   this client i am facing issue. other client working properly
10:00 TriveniChandriki[m]   i am doing git installation
09:56 cait                  the link to koha-conf.xml is not found, that has the db connection information
09:56 cait                  sudo koha-shell instance
09:56 cait                  trivenichandriki don't export the variables, run the script as the koha user
09:54 TriveniChandriki[m]   please help me on this
09:54 TriveniChandriki[m]   this is log file
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09:52 * TriveniChandriki[m] uploaded an image: (75KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/RWwZarKjlqPUKZfQJkwzYvvw/image.png >
09:52 TriveniChandriki[m]   i am facing this issue
09:52 TriveniChandriki[m]   when i am runing fines.pl
09:51 TriveniChandriki[m]   good afternoon
09:28 huginn                ashimema: The operation succeeded.
09:28 ashimema              @later tell mtj are packages built from tags or branches?.. I'm thinking 22.11.04
09:05 cait                  ... now imagine what I could have done without my souvenir from Marseille...
09:04 magnuse               wow cait++
09:03 cait                  heh :)
08:59 ashimema              cait++ #QA Machine
07:13 ashimema              nice idea Joubu
07:12 huginn                Joubu: The operation succeeded.
07:12 Joubu                 @later tell tcohen we actually need a pre-push hook for RM to tell them to run yarn install when package.json is modified (and commit yarn.lock if not done yet)
06:41 * cait                waves
06:40 magnuse               bonjour ashimema
06:29 cait                  ok brb
06:27 cait                  how was your vacation? :)
06:26 * ashimema            is home too now
06:25 ashimema              Morning
06:25 magnuse               bonjour reiveune
06:25 reiveune              hello
06:22 cait                  there is always a risk now when people come together... but it was still a great week
06:22 magnuse               but not until the end of the hackfest ;-)
06:19 magnuse               yeah, it did
06:19 dcook                 magnuse: We can hope although it sounds like a lot of people got sick this time around? :(
06:17 magnuse               kia ora cait
06:16 magnuse               see you in marseille next year? :-)
06:15 magnuse               kia ora dcook
06:11 * dcook               waves to magnuse
06:09 * magnuse             waves from 127.0.0.1