Time Nick Message 03:16 mtj TriveniChandriki[m]: https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/xjYmOEDfKJVxuzFfcnYuyMBv/image.png 03:16 mtj ^ ...set your 'overdue fines cap' to a number greater than zero 03:18 mtj ..else your item's maximum fine will always be zero? 03:22 TriveniChandriki[m] Ok sir 03:23 TriveniChandriki[m] Tqsm sir ur helping me lot. You are great sir 04:18 mtj you are welcome 🧁 04:20 mtj dcook_: that strange devscripts problem got fixed in bookworm, with libsoap-lite-perl_1.27-3 04:21 mtj the dep for libossp-uuid-perl got dropped 04:25 mtj https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/libsoap-lite-perl 04:26 mtj ^ manually installing that pkg, should fix the devscripts conflict 04:27 TriveniChandriki[m] Ok sir 07:29 NikolayGospodinov[m] Hello, everyone. When I create a child record from a parent record. In the child record I see who is the parent. Is there a way to see who the children are from the parent record? 07:36 alex_ Bonjour 08:00 magnuse \o/ 08:28 TriveniChandriki[m] <mtj> "^ ...set your 'overdue fines cap..." <- Done it sir. For this we have to do fine.pl one line is there exist we have comment that line. It will show overdue book fine in patron account. 08:28 TriveniChandriki[m] <mtj> "^ ...set your 'overdue fines cap..." <- Again thanku so much sir 08:30 TriveniChandriki[m] #koha thanku everyone many issues fixing for urs suggestions 09:10 cait1 check your circulation rules 09:10 cait1 the fines cap is the max fine that can be put on an item 09:10 cait1 and make sure you have entered all with a decimal dot (not a comma) 09:17 TriveniChandriki[m] <cait1> "the fines cap is the max fine..." <- Fine.pl file we have to change sir. It's working now. 10:50 tcohen hola #koha 10:50 tcohen kidclamp++ 10:50 ashimema morning tcohen 10:53 tcohen hey ashimema 10:53 tcohen jenkins is green \o/ 10:53 ashimema I saw.. great work dude! 11:34 tcohen next meeting 11:35 tcohen next meeting? 11:35 tcohen next meetings? 11:49 tcohen who manages huggin? 11:49 ashimema galen I think 11:50 tcohen gmcharlt: 12:38 marcelr o/ 12:38 tcohen \o 12:38 caroline good morning! 13:13 emlam Morning everyone! 13:13 * cait1 waves 13:39 caroline My brain needs help with holds... 13:40 caroline If OPACHoldsIfAvailableAtPickup is set to Don't allow and circulation rules allow on-shelf holds only if at least one is unavailable 13:41 caroline (i.e. we don't want people making on-shelf holds if the copy at their library is available, they can only place holds if the copy at their library is out) 13:41 caroline (if that makes sense) 13:42 caroline would those settings be right? 13:43 caroline Right now, if OPACHoldsIfAvailableAtPickup is set to Don't allow and onshelf holds to if any unavailable, and I have a record with one copy checked out and one copy available, the person at the branch where it is available can place a hold for pickup at their own library 13:44 caroline that is a bug right? 13:54 cait1 let me re-read this 13:55 cait1 it sounds like a bug 13:55 cait1 it should not allow a hold on the available at branch one in any case 13:55 cait1 of onshelf holds 13:55 cait1 because it's pickup branch = item on shelf 13:55 caroline thanks, it's so convoluted my brain is refusing to process it hehe 13:55 cait1 did you check if the available item can actually fill that hold? 13:56 caroline You mean if I place the hold, will it appear on Hold tu pull? 13:56 cait1 just to make sure there is no interferring rule or setting 13:56 cait1 it would make sens eif the system thinks you will get the other item 13:56 cait1 i think if you return the other and it triggers the hold 13:57 cait1 hm no 13:57 cait1 return the available one... and it fills the hold, it should be 13:57 caroline If on-shelf holds is set to 'Yes', the patron cannot place the hold on the copy from their library 13:57 mtj hi JacobOMara[m], i think i spotted a bug with a cherry-picked commit on 22.11 13:57 mtj https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/commit/4b2753d864c9f2d0524c8332b897d2a2e5450f98 13:58 ashimema fire away mtj 13:58 ashimema I caught it go in in the wrong order.. 13:59 ashimema but I've since backported the css removal stuff.. so hopefully I got it back to working 13:59 mtj ah, ok 13:59 ashimema or are there still some issues? 13:59 cait1 just a followup to yesterday's questio from perplexedtheta: is it possible to build 22.11.03 packages locally right now? or is there some general issues and better wait for 22.11.04? 14:00 mtj hi cait1, i think its possible 14:00 ashimema it should be possible.. but easier with .04 once it's out 14:00 ashimema our build actually has some extra backports and I think it's possibly those that have been causing us issues here. 14:01 ashimema our last 22.11.ptfs build built though. 14:01 ashimema but it has a custom commit at the top 14:01 ashimema I'm about to rebase i on current 22.11.x to check it without that extra final commit 14:02 cait1 hm so maybe we'll have a go, but don't spend a loto f time on fixing if we run into problems 14:02 mtj ashimema: i think 22.11.x still needs 587ab3d applied 14:02 mtj 587ab3d) 14:03 mtj oops 14:03 mtj https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/commit/587ab3ddb850398cd1ba26b8ff2b9369651b7a67 14:03 cait1 .04 schedule for hackfest week still? 14:03 mtj cait1: sounds good to me :) 14:03 ashimema yup 14:04 ashimema we're going to go through the process together.. see if there's anything to refine/improve 14:06 ashimema lol 14:06 ashimema you're commit message and then the patch seem like oposites to me.. haha 14:06 mtj 674 $file_map->{'koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/js/vue/dist/erm.js.LICENSE.txt'} = 'blib/INTRANET_TMPL_DIR/prog/js/vue/dist/erm.js.LICENSE.txt'; 14:07 mtj ..in Makefile.PL, aah, so thats where the file comes from :) 14:07 ashimema LOL 14:07 ashimema that backport cherry-pick gave i completely different outcomes! 14:07 ashimema wtf 14:09 mtj yeah, a bit weird 14:10 ashimema OK.. I've re-cherry-picked it and it looks better this time 14:10 ashimema just checking with colleagues here that I'm not going to clash 14:14 mtj looks like the patch order for Makefile.PL was mixed-up on 22.11 14:14 ashimema yeah, it was 14:14 mtj ..and some commits got accidentally squashed 14:14 ashimema Jacob jumped the gun on teh follow-up.. 14:14 ashimema we'd opted not to backport the build stuff.. 14:14 ashimema then he backported the follow-up from you 14:15 ashimema at the time I didn't think it was a big deal.. 14:15 ashimema then later I decided we should go ahead with backporting the build stuff.. to keep in line with master a bit better on the build front for this LTS release. 14:15 ashimema and I think it was my second bit that screwed the pooch as it were 14:15 ashimema hopefully all fixed now though. 14:15 ashimema just pushed 14:16 mtj np, the Makefile.PL files look identical for master and 22.11 14:16 ashimema I've also had a chat to the team here about checking dependencies a little more carefully before back-porting.. i take full responsability.. bad teaching on my part 😜 14:16 mtj looks fixed :) 14:17 ashimema takes a whilst to get up to speed on all these things.. I'm super happy with them as a team though.. they're munching through it all and keeping everything moving great :0 14:18 ashimema I've also pushed our .ptfs branch rebased on this lot.. so that'll trigger the PTFS_22.11_D11 test run followed by a PTFS_22.11_BUILD run 🙂 14:18 ashimema which should prove this all works 🙂 14:18 ashimema do you autobuild packages somewhere? 14:18 ashimema I have memory of that vaguelly 14:19 ashimema we have it set up to only try and build the package if all the tests have passed on our branch first 🙂 14:20 ashimema doh.. looks like 22.11.x is failing tests at the minute for other reasons.. 14:20 ashimema I best jump on that 14:24 perplexedtheta o/ 15:22 mtj ashimema, perplexedtheta https://gitlab.com/mjames/koha-build-pkg 15:23 mtj thats the pkg build scripts 15:24 mtj $ bash ./0-build-22.11.sh 15:28 * mtj apologies for its 'jazzy' style 🎷💨 15:31 ashimema Cool 15:33 tundunf hi all! 15:36 ashimema Hi tundun 15:57 tundunf quick q: is there any way to choose the number of items to pull in 'reservations to pull'? 15:58 cait1 what do you mean by choose? 15:59 cait1 it shoudl tell you in "patrons with olds" (3rd column) how many items need pulling 15:59 cait1 hm better: the first column "Pull this many items" 16:00 tundunf Ah ignore me! I was misreading the column headings. 16:01 tundunf we've been having issues with bib-level on-shelf reservations and I'm trying to convince colleagues to enable item-level reservations to curb this 16:02 cait1 maybe also have a look at the holds queue report as an alternative for a pick list 16:02 cait1 what type of issues have you seen with bib-level? 16:02 cait1 we mostly do only bib-level holds i think, apart from serials 16:04 perplexedtheta Where I used to work, we did item-level reservations only and it was really effective at halting reservation clashes (we disallowed reservations on items on loan) 16:04 perplexedtheta We only had one branch, and had no serials - only books and equipment 16:05 perplexedtheta Kilometerage will vary from library to library. But we had positive experience with it 16:06 cait1 it means you'll have to wait longer as a patron 16:06 cait1 hm or more: there might be a clash of terminology here 16:06 cait1 reservations sometimes means holds and other times it's bookings on available things 16:07 cait1 if all items of a handbook I need are checked out, the record level will be the quickest way to get me whatever item 16:07 perplexedtheta Ah, en-GB: reservation == hold 16:07 cait1 especially with students it's often hard to tell who will return an item first, even if you see the due date 16:07 cait1 and then there is reserves too... 16:07 cait1 so we probably should check first we talk about the same use cases lol 16:08 tundunf the main problem is that when a reservation is placed on a book with multiple copies, other users aren't available to loan copies on the shelf until the reservation is satisfied. 16:08 cait1 that's configuration 16:09 cait1 I belive you can change that so they can still be checked out 16:09 tundunf ah I see, I'll review our settings! thank you 16:09 cait1 looking for it, give me a moment 16:10 cait1 there this one for not blockign renewals: AllowRenewalIfOtherItemsAvailable 16:11 cait1 i clearly remember the discussion about the user that already has the item in the cart... 16:11 cait1 and that checkout shsould be allowed then - did you verify it really blocks? 16:11 cait1 ah here: AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSCO 16:12 cait1 AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSIP 16:12 tundunf Thank you - I'll have a look! 16:12 cait1 i think the in the staff interface Koha just asks what you want to do and you can check it out 16:12 cait1 you are welcome, bbl #koha :) 16:19 ashimema is there not also an override permission or preference or something cait1? 16:29 tundunf It just blocked me from checking out a copy of a book on the shelf with a reservation on it and I can see that the AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSIP was set to "Don't allow", I've switched this to Allow and was able to check out a book at a self-service kiosk 16:30 tundunf Thanks for your help both, I don't know how I missed that syspref :) 16:31 ashimema There's a lot of prefs out there, glad you found it tundunf 17:32 tcohen PedroAmorim[m]: how did you find the error? 17:33 PedroAmorim[m] was implementing new routes and was having trouble so I ran the swagger-cli validate to fix my own errors 17:33 PedroAmorim[m] after I fixed mine, ran it again and stumbled upon it 17:37 tcohen in this particular case, I'm not sure we can solve it in a good way 17:38 tcohen with OpenAPIv2 18:11 fridolin hellow 18:11 PedroAmorim[m] hi 18:12 caroline I have a notice/tt question 18:12 Riccardo Hello, I am writing to request assistance with the design and implementation of a digital library using the controlled digital lending (CDL) system with Koha as the library management software. I am interested in using Koha to manage our digital collections and to provide access to our patrons through CDL. However, I am not familiar with the technical aspects of the CDL system and would appreciate any guidance or support in implementing this system. 18:12 caroline There is this line in ACCOUNT_CREDIT 18:12 caroline [%- PROCESS credit_type_description credit_type = credit.credit_type 18:12 caroline -%] 18:13 caroline the notice doesn't print the credit_type_description in French, even though it is translated in accounts.inc 18:13 caroline where is it taking it if not there? 18:15 emlam I think there's a page in the Administration module where debit/credit types can be specified like authorized values - maybe it's pulling it from there? 18:16 caroline I translated it there too and it's still showing up in English on the notice 18:17 caroline Riccardo, if I understand correctly, CDL is basically like lending books, but digital files? I would say to catalog them as records with items like you would for print and check those "items" out 18:27 Riccardo No i need a professional system that control that book's file is unusefull at the end of lending. 18:28 caroline as far as I know, Koha doesn't do that 18:31 Riccardo Ok! Any one know how to do it? Cost and if it's applicable to a little school library?