Time  Nick             Message
18:33 acupp            ah okay
18:31 caroline         OpacHiddenItems already looks in the "items" table. So you don't have to specify that. The column you are checking against is "withdrawn", and then the value to be checked is 1
18:29 acupp            I don't understand why it works, but it does.  Withdrawn: [1] gives me the desired result.  I'm just trying to understand why it works.  Why don't I have to put items.withdrawn?
18:26 caroline         It is the same principle as itemtypes for example... you will have your item type "code", which will be something like BK, and the item type "description" which will be "Book"
18:25 caroline         acupp, No that is correct. Authorised values have a "value" and a "description". What you see everywhere is the "description", but what is saved in the database is the "value"
18:24 acupp            I did Admin-->Authorized values--> Withdrawn.  The value is "1"  That makes me think my framework is wrong.  What I have is a dropdown, and the only options are to leave it blank (vast majority) or select "Withdrawn."
18:16 caroline         If you have access to your database, you can also check the withdrawn value SELECT withdrawn FROM items WHERE barcode = 'xxxxxx';
18:14 caroline         The value for Withdrawn should be 1
18:13 caroline         You can check the values in Administration > Authorized values > WITHDRAWN
18:13 caroline         yes, unless you have changed drastiacally your WITHDRAWN authorised_values, if the item is withdranw, the field value should be 1
18:12 acupp            Maybe I'm dense, but I don't see how that works.  It seems like what that does is hide item records where the field has the value "1."
18:08 caroline         withdrawn: [1]
18:08 caroline         simply enter
18:08 acupp            So what I need to do is enter items.withdrawn: [Withdrawn], right?
18:02 caroline         I also have this, but it's in french... you can probably google translate it https://inlibro.com/knowledge-base/masquer-les-exemplaires-elagues-a-lopac/
18:02 caroline         https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/opacpreferences.html#opachiddenitems
18:01 caroline         Go to Administration, search for OpacHiddenItems
18:00 acupp            Oh.  Then can you lead me to that system preference?
18:00 caroline         no, I'm takling about the OpacHiddenItems system preference
17:59 acupp            Are you talking about 942n?  I do that if I'm withdrawing all the items, but in this case I'm not doing that.
17:58 caroline         withdrawn: [1]
17:58 caroline         in the pref, enter
17:58 caroline         the OpacHiddenItems system preference I mean
17:57 caroline         acupp, I usually use the OpacHiddenItems for that purpose
17:57 acupp            Say I have two items of the same work.  I edited the item record for one to say Withdrawn.  Patrons still see that we have two copies on hand.  How do I make it so that patrons don't see items where the Withdrawn status field has the value "Withdrawn?"
17:55 caroline         I think some people are around... ask your question and maybe someone will know the answer :)
17:54 acupp            Is anyone out there today?
17:35 tuxayo           That was my plan ^^
17:12 cait             document in wiki? *cough* :)
16:49 ashimema         nice
16:49 ashimema         lol
16:49 tuxayo           options => send patch via email
16:49 tuxayo           https://gitlab.com/compiz/compiz-core/-/commit/8b2f0fcf0c006ced7916c08d606c2eb374f2d551
16:49 tuxayo           Ah, GitLab has a button!
16:49 tuxayo           > wasn't aware you could just add .patch to url
16:47 ashimema         anywho
16:47 ashimema         I just did it on the fly.. not really used github/gitlab all that much so wasn't aware you could just add .patch to url
16:46 tuxayo           no need for pull request, add .patch in the commit url. Or was there complications?
16:46 tuxayo           > built patches for them from their pull request
16:45 ashimema         it was a bit of a pain
16:45 ashimema         then built patches for them from their pull request
16:45 ashimema         forked on github
16:44 ashimema         I did just that with a colleague myself recently tuxayo
16:44 tuxayo           Any improvement or other workflow that could lower the barrier of entry for non technical people to submit trivial patches?
16:43 tuxayo           😵‍💫
16:43 tuxayo           (and then keeping the local git repo up to date and ktd images to be able to it a few months later)
16:41 tuxayo           Still quite some work but less than: making a linux VM, installing ktd, using git (😱😱😱😱😱) and git-bz
16:41 cait             tuxayo++
16:40 tuxayo           For now I have: using gitlab to fork Koha (and make it a mirror so it's a viable work) and then use the web ui to edit stuff and download the patch and attach it manually in BZ
16:40 tuxayo           Does anyone know a simple workflow to have non technician submit a patch to Koha (no testing it, suitable to trival/string patches)
16:27 tuxayo           Thanks all for attending :)
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16:27 tuxayo           #endmeeting
16:27 tuxayo           #info Next meeting: 11 January 2023, 15:00 UTC
16:27 tuxayo           Great, thanks!
16:26 ashimema         11th is better
16:26 thd              yes please
16:26 tuxayo           Not much hope for January 4th. The 11 then?
16:25 tuxayo           (finally the calendar loaded)
16:25 tuxayo           Ah yes, that was the idea.
16:24 * thd            prefers Jan.
16:24 tuxayo           For 2nd question, David N will plan a date in january. For now we can plan here any date for this timeslot.
16:23 tuxayo           «Should it then be in a timeslot more suitable for Oceana-Americas?»
16:23 tuxayo           «Should the next meeting be the 28th (straight after Christmas for countries that observe this) or 11th January?»
16:23 tuxayo           #topic Set time of next meeting
16:23 tuxayo           #action tuxayo defer "SQL8 of our coding guidelines state that SQL should not be in .pl, but should be in the module in C4 or Koha. This would mean that SQL in the Koha namespace is allowed and there is no mention of DBIC in the coding guidelines right now. (Deferred from previous meeting(s).)"
16:22 tuxayo           #topic Review of coding guidelines
16:22 huginn           tuxayo: The operation succeeded.
16:22 tuxayo           @later tell davidnind: not much workflow feedback on your git-bz question http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2022-12-14#i_2467175 likely koha-devel would have a wider reach
16:22 huginn           tuxayo: I suck
16:21 tuxayo           @later davidnind: not much workflow feedback on your git-bz question http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2022-12-14#i_2467175  likely koha-devel would have a wider reach.
16:18 tuxayo           Is there something that is much faster to do there?
16:17 tuxayo           I never used -e , is that an alternative to interacting with ticket via the web ui?
16:17 tuxayo           After a quick read there doesn't seem to be a way to have the patch comments also obsoleted with git bz (to have them collapsed for old patches). But for the most tech tinkerers here, there is a script that can be ran with stuff like the Greasemonkey Firefox extension: https://pastebin.com/c99G9KgG
16:11 tuxayo           Ah ok, marking the comment with the obsolete tag so it's hidden. And not just obsoleting the attachement.
16:11 tuxayo           «There maybe a number of scenarios where different options are preferred (for example, sign off vs. passed QA)»
16:11 tuxayo           «Just seeking guidance on best practice, including whether old patches should be obsoleted (by adding the obsolete tag) to make the bug "cleaner"»
16:11 tuxayo           «There was some discussion on IRC on using -e or not, and obsoleting patches http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2022-10-20#i_2457161»
16:10 tuxayo           «I've always done it this way when signing off patches as it is what I was told to do»
16:10 tuxayo           « git bz attach -e BUGNUMBER HEAD~X.. (where X = number of patches (davidnind) »
16:10 tuxayo           So hopefully git-bz won't be an issue
16:09 tuxayo           I email nugged to ask if with Helsinki Uni they have their Python 3 fork of git-bz published somewhere
16:08 tuxayo           «git-bz is stuck on Python 2 which went end of life on January 1st 2020… should we start to consider alternatives?»
16:08 tuxayo           #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...)
16:08 tuxayo           #action oleonard ashimema draft in the developer handbook how to form our modals. With template of a simple case and a case with form inside.: focus is currently on staff interface redesign changes, see the draft style guide: https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha-styleguide-draft
16:07 tuxayo           #action tcohen to draft proposal for master→main change and draft of action list
16:07 tuxayo           #action tcohen to schedule/call a "CSRF day" to work on related patches together
16:06 tuxayo           https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha-styleguide-draft
16:06 tuxayo           oleonard ashimema draft in the developer handbook how to form our modals. With template of a simple case and a case with form inside.: focus is currently on staff interface redesign changes, see the  draft style guide:
16:06 tuxayo           tcohen to draft proposal for master→main change and draft of action list
16:06 tuxayo           tcohen to schedule/call a "CSRF day" to work on related patches together
16:06 tuxayo           next: «Deferred until after the 22.11 release»
16:05 tuxayo           See also https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Versioning
16:04 thd              It had not been a wiki problem when the wiki was not there so a smaller problem became larger.
16:04 tuxayo           cait++
16:04 tuxayo           cait Update wiki page for LTS: completed, see https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/LTS_workflow_proposal
16:03 tuxayo           #topic Actions from last meeting
16:03 tuxayo           IIRC it wasn't working on this server since before. But it wasn't a problem since the wiki wasn't there.
16:03 tuxayo           > had stopped working
16:03 thd              However, virtualising everything creates weird problems as we discussed previously in this meeting.
16:02 * thd            does not know why the mail system connected to portainer, etc. had stopped working.
16:02 cait             doesn't need to do the hard stuff, but makes ure it doesn't get out of sight and progresses
16:01 tuxayo           anything else thd? Or someone else about roadmap stuff?
16:01 tuxayo           thanks cait!
16:01 cait             for Kohacon: Basically that, mails to the mailing lsit, wiki page and adding to agendas for next steps or if any decisions need to be made
16:01 tuxayo           ^^
16:01 thd              However, many people have trouble with the human bandwidth required for discussion.
16:00 thd              What Equinox might do needed discussion.
16:00 tuxayo           Thanks for the news
16:00 tuxayo           great :)
16:00 tuxayo           So Equinox would attach a server to our portainer thing?
15:59 thd              tcohen has been starting to set up the SMTP server for the server where the wiki runs.
15:59 ashimema         sorry.. home now and reading back
15:58 thd              However, gmcharlt is always super busy so no further response.
15:58 tuxayo           nice
15:58 tuxayo           thd: "roadmap projects" any news about wiki email notifications?
15:58 thd              gmcharlt had sent a message indicating that Equinox was still interested in hosting the wiki which is good for infrastructure distribution.
15:58 tuxayo           thd: that was already considered I think when we where out of proposals, but we have a lot of time for now
15:57 thd              Possibly agreeing to alter regional rotation for the year if no response forthcoming.
15:57 tuxayo           Do we have anything for now about roadmap projects?
15:56 tuxayo           #topic Status of roadmap projects
15:56 tuxayo           #action tuxayo call for a volunteer on mailing lists to open the bidding for KohaCon24 and confirm the task list for that.
15:56 tuxayo           Anyway, I still have to call for volunteer on the mailing list as planned in last weeks meeting and I'll ask for the step also there.
15:56 thd              Prompting on email if there is no or little response.
15:53 tuxayo           What would be needed besides making the wiki page using the template and announcement email using paste ones?
15:52 thd              ... where ashimea is located.
15:51 tuxayo           Let's keep the above plan. Any volunteer to oversee the process and trigger actions?
15:51 thd              cold is presumed
15:50 tuxayo           due to cold?
15:50 tuxayo           > losing feeling in fingers
15:50 ashimema         Still on school run and losing feeling in fingers
15:49 tuxayo           Any chance/refinement to the plan?
15:48 tuxayo           And see if we have a proposal at the next general meeting in april
15:48 tuxayo           And let the big run for 2 months
15:47 tuxayo           Start early to allow already bids to have time
15:47 tuxayo           «So start in January the bidding so if someone wants to host in January 2024»
15:47 ashimema         Super organised
15:47 tuxayo           I found the logs!
15:45 tuxayo           (about the KohaCon24 bidding)
15:44 tuxayo           So, it's a follow up to the last general meeting
15:44 tuxayo           Knowing the quirks of patch testing tools and workflow + the more advanced uses of Koha doesn't leave much people that can a fair share of the patches
15:43 tuxayo           yes!
15:42 ashimema         Really helpful to have the right people in the room together sometimes
15:42 tuxayo           «Set the rough schedule» «Find a volunteer to oversee the process and trigger actions»
15:42 ashimema         That's great :)
15:42 tuxayo           #topic KohaCon24 bidding
15:42 tuxayo           And some stuff we where able to team on for testing and being with librarians allowed to understand tricky stuff :)
15:41 tcohen           laters
15:41 tcohen           gotta go feed the kids
15:41 tuxayo           But there is also the outreach value
15:41 tuxayo           Still not reaching parity of signoff bug vs when I'm directly doing it.
15:40 ashimema         It's a great initiative
15:39 ashimema         tuxayo++
15:39 tuxayo           That's how I'll advertise it :P
15:39 ashimema         I reckon we should promote new year's resolutions of attending those bug testing sessions ;)
15:39 tuxayo           ashimema and tcohen visit on the call was lovely ^^
15:39 tuxayo           I'll wait for January to plan others
15:38 ashimema         Awesome
15:38 tuxayo           Last patch testing session has been better in terms of attendance that the others.
15:38 ashimema         QA has been slow from me.. again it's because I'm upskilling the team right now so a bit swamped
15:38 cait             other than that... please QA all the bugs!
15:37 cait             please check QA emails, I tried to include urgent stuff or things people asked for help for
15:37 cait             queues are filling up, but at least a bit slower than usual too
15:37 cait             as tcohen has said, things have been a little slow
15:37 tuxayo           qa_team is cait, marcelr, khall, kidclamp,  lukeg, aleisha, fridolin, ashimema, tuxayo, nugged, petrova, Joubu and dcook
15:36 tuxayo           qa_team?
15:36 tuxayo           #topic Updates from the QA team
15:36 tuxayo           Many good news, ptfs-e++
15:36 cait             sorry, got distracted for a moment
15:36 ashimema         Yup
15:35 cait             oops
15:35 reiveune         bye
15:35 tuxayo           Pedro is the person that helped for ERM IIRC
15:35 ashimema         Will do, they're flying back from Edinburgh right now.. else they'd be here
15:34 ashimema         Pedro will also come in board when he goes full time in January.. right now he's contracting for us part time whilst he serves his notice
15:34 tuxayo           Then send welcome to them :)
15:34 tuxayo           ashimema++
15:34 ashimema         Correct
15:34 tuxayo           Your new recruits doing RMaint with you are Matt and Jacob is that how it is?
15:33 ashimema         It's was a baptism of fire for our new Devs, but they're enjoying it and getting onboard fast
15:33 ashimema         And git hooks
15:33 ashimema         I fixed a bunch if issues with koha-push script too
15:32 ashimema         We're 2 days behind right now due to company Xmas meeting this week . I will catch us up tonight
15:32 ashimema         We're getting back up to speed at ptfs-e
15:32 tuxayo           liliputech:
15:32 tuxayo           lukeg , Wainui ashimema
15:31 tuxayo           #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers
15:31 tuxayo           ^^
15:31 tcohen           QA all the bugs!
15:31 tcohen           nope
15:31 tuxayo           tcohen: other updates?
15:31 tuxayo           #action tuxayo open tickets on ktd for the basic stuff needed to easily work on the non-root user
15:30 thd              weird dev environment => weird errors
15:30 tuxayo           => https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/-/issues/270
15:29 ashimema         Anywho, let's take that discussion off meeting I reckon
15:29 ashimema         Yeah, that's the idea I was just spitballing tuxayo
15:28 ashimema         For those that don't fully grasp it, that's a fair default modus operandi
15:28 tuxayo           So first steps would be make a ticket to have restart_all/reset_all to work on the kohadev user (by using sudo or something) and another to have ktd --kshell to dump you straight in kohadev user. Is that it?
15:28 ashimema         I would say for now the rule of thumb should be do it inside kshell.. if you hit a permission issue exit out to root
15:27 ashimema         Yup
15:27 tcohen           with some weird errors
15:27 tcohen           will be owned by root and working with git outside KTD will fail
15:26 tcohen           right, if you perform a checkout as root (outside kshell) then some refs on the git repo (that are not evident with git status)
15:26 ashimema         Yup
15:26 tuxayo           So in root?
15:26 tuxayo           > outside kshell
15:26 tcohen           running the qa command outside kshell results in bad permission problems on the git repo
15:25 tcohen           restart_all and other stuff requires root
15:24 ashimema         Some commands probably do.. but I'm thinking a nice improvement would be to try and only require the env we have inside kshell and dump the user there instead of root
15:24 tuxayo           I'll try using only the non root user and see if anything goes wrong
15:22 tuxayo           Oh that changed!
15:22 tuxayo           > not sure what requires root now
15:21 tcohen           you probably won't be able to delete them outside ktd
15:21 cait             and still: please document and send an email to list
15:21 * ashimema       wonders if there would be a was for ktd --kshell to dump you straight in at kshell.. not sure what requires root now
15:21 cait             had the same thought :)
15:21 tuxayo           Is it bad? They aren't commited
15:21 cait             hm
15:21 tcohen           beware you are generating files as root user
15:20 tcohen           BUT
15:20 tcohen           cait: that's correct
15:20 cait             you don't need to with yarn bulid now
15:20 tcohen           ktd --shell -> kshell
15:20 ashimema         I intend to help tcohen more asap.. been struggling to keep up with assigning work to our new team here
15:19 ashimema         We're still working on it all
15:19 ashimema         Submit requests to ktd cait
15:19 cait             ktd --kshell or one level deeper?
15:19 tcohen           fyi: it should be run on the kshell
15:19 cait             maybe an option for restart_all
15:19 tcohen           I will submit an alias for that
15:19 ashimema         Merge requests welcome. I can review
15:18 ashimema         Winter theme for dashboard was something catalyst/rangi usually did.. I think it still exist but would need a rebase
15:18 oleonard         I was just thinking a shortcut for all three would be a great idea
15:18 cait             ok
15:18 cait             will ktd come up with them pre-built?
15:18 tcohen           they are in .gitignore
15:18 cait             and is there a shortcut to run all 3?
15:18 cait             are these files added to an ignore file automatically?
15:18 ashimema         Slow
15:18 ashimema         Sorry, I'm on the school run so catching up and site
15:18 tuxayo           The new yarn steps when starting ktd also do the CSS?
15:18 tuxayo           > but in master you need to build it yourself
15:18 tcohen           for a complete working build
15:18 cait             I am pretty sure right now i liked the commited files better
15:17 tcohen           yarn build_js
15:17 tcohen           and
15:17 tcohen           yarn build --view opac
15:17 tcohen           yarn build
15:17 tcohen           cait: you need to
15:17 cait             i always have to stash clean before SO as the untracked files get in the way
15:17 tcohen           the main problem is we haven't come up with a proposal yet
15:17 cait             when I am yarn building now
15:17 cait             how does it work?
15:17 cait             maybe also an email would be good
15:17 cait             is there information on the wiki for that yet?
15:16 tcohen           so I've pushed a couple CSS fixes, but in master you need to build it yourself
15:16 tuxayo           Ah yes, I'm late on them!
15:16 tuxayo           > check QA emails
15:16 tcohen           to the repo
15:16 cait             tuxayo: check QA emails ;)
15:16 tcohen           and there was some consensus about not pushing generated code like CSS, vue-related stuffs
15:15 tuxayo           How is the .00 ? Anything terrible found?
15:15 tcohen           on the other hand, we are in the process of reviewing our build pipeline
15:15 cait             same, but I think everybody is tired and busy - holidays coming up
15:15 tcohen           but that is not the case, so I might start pushing new things soon
15:14 tcohen           I expected more movement after the release, tidying things on the new interface revamp
15:13 tuxayo           Ah, maybe!
15:13 tuxayo           > winter theme for the dashboard?
15:13 tuxayo           I guess mason also get the failures?
15:13 cait             oh I wonder, didn't we have a christmas/winter theme for the dashboard?
15:13 tuxayo           ++
15:13 tuxayo           > we should rather have something in @koha-community.org
15:12 tcohen           but this will work for now
15:12 tcohen           we should rather have something in @koha-community.org
15:12 tuxayo           And almost all is green :)
15:12 tuxayo           thanks :)
15:12 tcohen           I will be using that
15:12 tcohen           on my own domain
15:12 tcohen           I created an email alias for rmaints and the qa team
15:12 tcohen           I only tweaked the 'master' tasks
15:12 tcohen           no pushes :-D
15:11 tcohen           nope
15:11 tuxayo           Should there already have been emails sent?
15:11 tuxayo           tcohen++
15:11 tcohen           and I added the QA team on CC for failures (so more eyes there)
15:10 liliputech       tcohen++
15:10 cait             tcohen++
15:10 tcohen           particularly, I made jenkins notifications work again
15:10 tcohen           I've been focused on KTD and jenkins
15:10 tcohen           school ended for the rest of the year so figuring how to organize the little kids
15:10 tcohen           Things are moving a bit slow
15:09 tuxayo           tcohen: 🎙️
15:09 tuxayo           #topic Update from the Release manager
15:08 cait             #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
15:08 oleonard         #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA
15:07 huginn           cait: Error: The command "info" is available in the Factoids and RSS plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "info".
15:07 cait             @info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
15:07 tuxayo           anything to announce that doesn't fit better in the other topics?
15:07 cait             sorry for being late
15:07 tuxayo           #topic Announcements
15:07 tuxayo           #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_14_December_2022 Today's agenda
15:06 tuxayo           qa_team is cait, marcelr, khall, kidclamp,  lukeg, aleisha, fridolin, ashimema, tuxayo, nugged, petrova, Joubu and dcook
15:04 tuxayo           #info Victor Grousset, Tuxayo Ltd., France
15:03 thd              #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
15:03 tcohen           qa_team
15:03 ashimema         #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS-Europe
15:03 tuxayo           rmaints?
15:02 tcohen           #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions
15:02 kidclamp         #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions
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15:01 tuxayo           #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 14 December 2022
15:01 tuxayo           ^^
15:01 thd              (   : - [) )
14:58 tuxayo           * :)
14:58 tuxayo           hi !)
12:34 mtj              ...which calls debian/rules, which calls /usr/bin/make
12:31 mtj              build-git-snapshot calls pdebuild, which calls dpkg-buildpackage...
12:24 mtj              yes, i think so
12:16 tcohen           it would be covered by make, right?
12:16 mtj              ..so, would be easy to add any extra 'yarn' steps to that
12:15 mtj              tcohen: the packages are built using the debian/build-git-snapshot script
11:57 ashimema         we have a bunch of projects I'm lining up.. stylelint and sass changes could be added
11:56 ashimema         I have dev resource now.. but need guidance to help plan our work
11:56 oleonard         paulderscheid[m], ashimema, I'm completely on board with switching to stylelint. I just can't make it happen myself any time soon.
11:56 mtj              i really need to add that jenkins 'tar build' job back
11:55 ashimema         well.. certainly standard.. dev would likely mean youd still need manual extra's.. but as a dev you'd kinda expect that
11:55 tcohen           that's the right place, correct
11:55 tcohen           you really meant make
11:55 * ashimema       like that as it allows for 'standard' and 'dev' type installs to still function..
11:54 tcohen           oh, I thought it was a typo
11:54 mtj              it couldnt hurt to add the functionality
11:54 ashimema         make includes adding build dependancies right.. so grabbing yarn and friends isn't entirely beyond imagination
11:54 mtj              i couldnt hurt to add the functionality?
11:53 mtj              tcohen: i think its a great idea
11:53 mtj              ashimema: agree ^
11:53 tcohen           hence my question heh
11:53 tcohen           and get everything bundled on the tarball
11:53 tcohen           koha-release tarball
11:53 tcohen           so rmaints can just
11:53 tcohen           mtj: I've been pondering about adding the required tools to the release-tools docker image...
11:52 ashimema         building feels like a task make could/should be doing
11:52 ashimema         but it's been a while
11:52 * ashimema       seems to remember doing stuff with make for building packages..
11:51 mtj              tcohen: yes, i had a little think... it should be possible :)
11:51 ashimema         save space and reduce conflicts
11:51 tcohen           yarn build_js
11:51 tcohen           yarn build --view opac
11:51 tcohen           yarn build
11:51 tcohen           for generating those assets, you would need to
11:50 tcohen           mtj, did you think about the possibility of building from the tarball?
11:50 mtj              main objective is to save space in the git repo?
11:50 tcohen           heh
11:49 tcohen           then we keep the conversation, of course
11:49 tcohen           if we want to save space
11:49 tcohen           once per release I mean
11:49 tcohen           on the tagged commit
11:49 tcohen           we could build all the things and add them once per cycle
11:48 ashimema         if that's the case I'm not too too worried..
11:48 mtj              ooh, 1.5M file ... koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/js/vue/dist/main.js
11:48 ashimema         fair enough
11:48 tcohen           it is complicating things more than needed me feels
11:48 tcohen           I'm having existential doubts about the importance of getting rid of those commits, to be honest
11:47 tcohen           and ad3744532598cae181567975899200dcf170cba8
11:46 mtj              ashimema: these commits? -> 9de934a96ed22dabc33533e6ac238446cf488118
11:46 mtj              hiya tcohen
11:46 tcohen           hi mtj
11:44 ashimema         I know we're keen from dev side to stop committing the built css and built vue/js.. it would be cleaner to just commit the source files and then compile/build them on release time
11:43 ashimema         at least I 'think' that's where the question came from
11:43 mtj              aah right ^
11:42 ashimema         so we no longer have to commit the built blobs
11:42 ashimema         but I think this is more about our general build process and fitting it into the packaging routines...
11:41 * ashimema       is keen for those changes
11:41 mtj              hi paulderscheid[m] :)
11:36 paulderscheid[m] s/oleanord/oleonard/
11:35 paulderscheid[m] mtj: If this is about node-sass we maybe could switch to stylelint but ultimately oleanord should be on board.
11:27 mtj              ..i wonder if there is another way to build/compile CSS, Vue etc?
11:26 mtj              hi tcohen: i saw your msg ^
11:25 mtj              hie #koha
10:35 tcohen           morning
10:15 paulderscheid[m] The new wiki is cool.
09:35 paulderscheid[m] Nevermind, I searched for Error instead of Exception 😵
09:34 paulderscheid[m] Can't find it in the docs.
09:34 paulderscheid[m] Quick question: There was a package in the Koha namespace for throwing errors. Where is it?
09:12 cait             morning all :)
08:46 paulderscheid[m] Morning #koha
08:24 magnuse          kia ora cait
08:23 cait             hi #koha
07:59 reiveune         hello
07:54 alex_            Bonjour
07:43 magnuse          \o/
05:22 dcook_           I think I might need a beer after that...
05:22 huginn           04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20596 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Authority record matching rule causes staging failure when MARC record contains multiple tag values for a match point
05:22 dcook_           bug 20596