Time Nick Message 02:47 yetyunglungTimothy[m] <cait1> "so it's normal you don't see the..." <- it's not.. Because it didn't send also after 15 minutes 06:02 fridolin hellow 06:02 fridolin release day is coming ... 07:18 reiveune hello 08:04 matts hello ! 08:09 cait1 hello matts 09:18 Joubu please QA bug 32269 09:18 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32269 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Circulation.t is failing randomly 09:56 magnuse cait1: do you use bulkmarcimport.pl to import records from your union catalogue? have you seen something like bug 32332? 09:56 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32332 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , bulkmarcimport.pl -insert fails to add MARC field 999 09:57 ashimema she uses stage + commit scripts 09:57 ashimema magnuse ^ 09:57 magnuse ah, ok 09:57 ashimema we use it here for our migrations.. but I've not heard of that issue 10:00 ashimema on it Joubu 10:00 * ashimema fits in a few QA's whilst the new devs are shadowing a sales demo 10:01 magnuse ashimema++ 10:11 ashimema cait around? 10:26 ashimema [off] QA team should take a look at bug 30233.. I had missed the updated patch there.. just signed off. 10:26 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30233 is not accessible. 10:47 ashimema Are you working on the Koha/Biblio.t test Joubu? 10:47 * ashimema was about to take a look and didn't want to clash 10:57 Joubu ashimema: nope, I am off today 11:03 ashimema okies.. enjoy your day then 🙂 11:10 ashimema the git server feels a bit slow to me recently.. pulls take ages.. 11:11 ashimema anyone else noticed that? 11:59 magnuse ashimema: yeah, i thought the web interface was kind of slow the other day 12:08 cait1 it is sometimes slow yes 12:09 cait1 and ashimema is right, we usually use stage/commit - but we use bulkmarcimprot for migrations - and I think others do too, so any bad bugs need to be killed 12:21 ashimema 🙂 13:08 matts Speaking of bulkmarcimport, I think this is a major bug: Bug 18273 - Bulkmarcimport inserts authority duplicates 13:08 matts https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18273 13:08 huginn` 04Bug 18273: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Patch doesn't apply , Bulkmarcimport inserts authority duplicates 13:08 matts It needs a quick rebase, but it didn't get any signoff at the time. 13:41 kidclamp ashimema++ 16:13 reiveune bye 16:40 cait1 bye 18:12 tuxayo iutiut 18:22 tuxayo finally I'm forced to change one of my last shitty passwords ^^" 18:28 fridolin tuxayo: yellow ;) 18:29 * fridolin has a lot of "shame" passwords 18:29 tuxayo fridolin: hi :) 18:29 fridolin release day is comming right ? 18:30 cait[m] yes 18:33 tuxayo > release day is comming right ? 18:33 tuxayo I guess. I'm catching up on 21.05.x for now. After that, no more RMaint for now and I'll be able to do QA even when it's hard to put time on Koha. for now, RMaint always came first. 18:37 fridolin "tempus fugit" they say :) 18:45 cait[m] hate to say, but we are still short a Maint currently... 18:50 fridolin sorry i really cant 18:50 cait[m] that's ok frido 18:50 tuxayo > we are still short a Maint currently 18:50 tuxayo yes T_T 18:57 tuxayo We have 3 RMaints that can only put time on oldoldstable at best :( 18:58 tuxayo (Wainui, Arthur and me) 19:01 cait[m] we still have a few days to figure it out.. even if not that many 20:11 ashimema I still have something up my sleeve, just have to corner the right people 20:11 cait[m] corner them! :) 20:12 ashimema Easier said than done at the moment.. I've basically been in back to back meetings for over a week now 20:12 cait[m] ew 20:12 tuxayo > just have to corner the right people 20:12 tuxayo lol 20:13 tuxayo Worse case, oldstable could be treated like oldoldstable and not have much backports. 20:14 tuxayo not great, not terrible 20:14 cait[m] hm worst case we should drop the oldest I think 20:14 ashimema By the time something gets to oldstable it really ought to be pretty stable 20:15 ashimema I've lost track.. this is a four rmaint cycle right.. lts 20:16 cait[m] yes 20:16 cait[m] and we got 3 20:16 ashimema I've lost the plot on the scheme at this point 20:16 cait[m] i've made a nice graphic in te wiki just yesterda 20:16 cait[m] look for Koha versioning 20:16 ashimema So are you suggesting dropping the LTS if we don't have enough rmaints. 20:16 ashimema Lol 20:21 ashimema I'm surprised we're naming our first lts as 22.11.. why not retrospectively assign one 20:21 ashimema Anywho . That's not a conversation for now 20:22 cait[m] because that was voted on, i only made the edits 20:22 cait[m] no, I mean dropping the oldes.t.. we are just starting now doing the first real lts i think 20:25 ashimema Erm.. I'm confused by your diagram 20:26 cait[m] hmpf 20:26 ashimema It appears to make all branches last 24 months 20:26 ashimema Not 18 20:26 cait[m] no 20:26 cait[m] we always maintain 4 20:26 cait[m] three diagonal for normal 20:27 cait[m] we could probably the last 20:27 cait[m] drop the ast this time 20:27 cait[m] it woudl fit the new model 20:27 ashimema So why are we trying to support oldoldoldstable 20:28 ashimema If we're doing lts I don't believe we should do oldoldoldstable ever 20:28 cait[m] we could drop it - just was the idea proposed at some point to have always 4 20:28 cait[m] we won't 20:28 cait[m] there is a gap later 20:28 ashimema There is later 20:31 ashimema We dropped 19.11 last cycle didn't we 20:31 cait[m] sorry, only half here, playing online with a friend - we can check back on that tomorrow maybe? 20:32 ashimema Would argue we should have retrospectively set 19.11 as lts as it nearly got there already anyway. Then that would have made your table work 20:33 cait[m] you always got to start somewhere 20:33 ashimema I think I argued against always doing 4.. we already struggle to get rmaints so all we've done is spread the community even thinner 20:33 ashimema Lol 20:33 ashimema Mmm 20:34 cait[m] I had a model with 3 it was argued against 20:34 cait[m] because it would have given less time for updates 20:45 tuxayo > this is a four rmaint cycle right.. lts 20:45 tuxayo wait, wasn't 21.11 going to be the 1st lts? So still 3 RMaint for a few cycles 20:46 tuxayo > i've made a nice graphic in te wiki just yesterda 20:46 tuxayo cait++ 20:47 cait[m] check the logs please - meeting logs are linked 20:48 tuxayo ashimema: «So why are we trying to support oldoldoldstable» Because someone volunteered for. It's out of the old/current scheme and won't be in the new scheme with LTS. 20:48 tuxayo It's a bonus. 20:49 tuxayo So having oldoldoldstable itsn't related to the LTS chances. 20:49 tuxayo *changes 20:50 tuxayo > this is a four rmaint cycle right.. lts 20:50 tuxayo So it's a 4 Rmaint cycle (when the 4th will be found ^^") but it's not related to LTS 20:54 cait[m] i guess we are in an 'in between' cycle 20:54 cait[m] maybe they could be persuaded to move one version up? 21:00 tuxayo Arthur told me that they can't commit more than an oldoldstable load. Thus the "worst case" plan of treating oldstable as oldoldstable. For Wainui turns out I don't know if they couldn't commit to oldstable with the expect load. So maybe. 21:00 tuxayo NZ Thu Nov 24 10:00:19 2022 NZDT 21:01 tuxayo no one from Catalyst around it seems 21:03 cait[m] wainui is from Catalyst? 21:04 cait[m] ah noone around 21:12 tuxayo Yes wainui 21:12 tuxayo is from Catalyst 21:12 tuxayo Ah it's spelled noone! 21:13 cait[m] i missed oyur sentence, not sure about the spelling myself 21:17 tuxayo Turns out both exist but not with the same acceptance, thus the confusion ^^" 21:17 tuxayo https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/noone#Pronoun 21:17 tuxayo https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/no_one#English