Time Nick Message 19:37 mtj its a silly bug :/ 19:37 mtj tcohen: i fixed the sele/patrons.t bug, ill send a patch later 18:22 mtj tcohen: try the 'koha-staging dev' repo 18:11 tcohen mtj[m]: could you please upgrade libmojolicious-plugin-oauth2-perl to 2.02? thanks! 16:13 mtj i confess to setting up my koha/certbot stuff manually, (bofh sysadmin) 16:10 mtj well, its been committed 16:04 ashimema lol 16:04 ashimema I'm confused now.. I have no idea what that does or how my colleagues missed it 16:04 mtj ok, that looks like a great start 16:01 huginn` Bug 15303: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, CLOSED FIXED, Letsencrypt option for Debian package installations 16:01 ashimema ho.. when going to add a bug I just found https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15303 15:59 ashimema we may be able to do renewals inside our koha code.. 15:58 ashimema I know Mojo has support for it these days.. though I've not looked into the details.. 15:58 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 15:58 ashimema excellent 15:57 mtj good news is that there are a bunch of other ways to do the renewal 15:56 mtj ..but to do that would require apache to be shutdown :/ 15:56 tcohen school drop 15:55 mtj that was the easy/default option 15:55 mtj i recall an annoying gotcha was the cert renewal process, it wanted to run a webserver on port 80 to do the update 15:53 mtj ok, ill have a little look to refresh my memory 15:52 ashimema feel free to punt me a suggestion of what it would entail and a quote when you have a moment.. 15:52 ashimema had a feeling you might have 15:51 mtj i have a bit of experience setting up lets-encrypt stuff with koha 15:51 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 15:51 ashimema excellent 15:50 mtj hmm, yes and yes 15:50 ashimema there's money in the pot if it's something you think as packaging guru you could chomp through? 15:49 ashimema honestly.. I've not looked into it at all myself 15:49 ashimema Our infra team here are suggesting it's a bit of a pain getting Certbot to play nicely with the koha vhosts we ship with packages out of the box... 15:48 ashimema found it.. do you think it's viable to add a simple option in the packages to set up letsencrypt certs for koha instances 15:46 mtj ... i havent click why yet tho :) 15:46 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31565 normal, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, Pushed to master , Patron search filter by category code with special character returns no results 15:46 mtj tcohen: git-bisect says bug 31565 broke the sele/patrons.t test 15:46 * ashimema digs through notes 15:46 ashimema I had a question for you.... 15:46 ashimema hi 15:45 mtj hi ashimema 15:38 ashimema especially for stable 15:38 ashimema when I was an rmaint I checked my queue every morning and worked through it doing backports.. I made sure that on a friday my queue was always empty.. that can take a significant time 15:37 ashimema I think one of the biggest issues is really just that rmaints aren't always given the time that the job requires 15:36 ashimema but it is doable 15:36 ashimema splitting does mean maintaining a queue very carefully though.. 15:23 mtj tcohen: perhaps we allow a bit of time for support people to update systems, before pushing bz17035 15:21 mtj hiya wizzyrea 15:19 wizzyrea tcohen - thank you I was hoping it was literally that easy but didn't dream it actually was 15:18 wizzyrea hi mtj :) 15:17 tuxayo *and split 15:17 tuxayo There can totally be multiple people RMainting a given branch a split the backport & test load. Once or twice stable or oldstable had two people from bywater. 15:17 tuxayo > we should team up for lowering the weight on our shuoldrs 15:15 tuxayo Good, I have nothing in rel_21_05_candidate :) 15:11 tcohen I try to add the keyword myself when I'm pretty sure things should be backported 15:11 tcohen tuxayo: yeah, we should team up for lowering the weight on our shuoldrs 14:57 tuxayo However I wouldn't bet the RMaints for stable and oldstable can stay on top of all there BZ notifications. Because they touch more tickets than me with oldoldstable. And the time to spend backporting and testing is much more. So less time left to stay on top of more notifications. 14:55 tuxayo So that should be fool proof. 14:55 tuxayo And I check every BZ notification for if someone request a backport that I skipped 14:54 reiveune bye 14:54 tuxayo tcohen: to be fair, every patch should be examined by RMaint. And have a comment left if skipped. 14:53 mtj tcohen, wizzyrea: i updated bz17035 regarding the public z3950 question 14:53 tcohen haha 14:53 tcohen OMFG 14:53 tuxayo tcohen: I never had in my workflow to check rel_<version>_candidate 😱 14:53 tcohen IDNO is usually put on 001 14:50 milktoast_ it is 14K books in that system 14:50 milktoast_ ok, I'll print a paper and take toa Library and ask them what they think each one should be 14:48 milktoast_ Thanks, I found that .. like <tcohen> said, I need to talk to a librarian... 14:48 oleonard milktoast_ And category may be something you want to convert to an itemtype or authorized value...I'm guessing 14:47 oleonard milktoast_ : IDNO be not be relevant if it was an internal identifier in your previous software 14:46 oleonard MARC21 documentation should help too: https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ 14:46 milktoast_ :-) 14:46 tcohen you need to talk to a librarian or a migrations expert 14:45 milktoast_ each one is at the top of a column in libreoffice calc 14:44 milktoast_ IDNO TITLE AUTHOR TYPE COAUTHORS PUBLISHER PUBLISHED PLACE SERIES EDITION CATEGORY LEVEL FORMAT EDITOR ILLUSTRATOR PAGES PHYSICAL DEWEY 14:44 milktoast_ can someone look at these names and see what MARC21 catalog number they match so I can change them before importing into Koha? 14:43 milktoast_ I've exported the data from our "handy library manager" and it has it's own names for areas... 14:43 milktoast_ morning all... 14:42 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30730 major, P5 - low, ---, shi-yao.wang, Pushed to master , Holds to Pull should not list items with a notforloan status 14:42 tcohen example: bug 30730 14:42 tcohen ^^ tuxayo lukeg liliputech 14:42 tcohen rmaints: please take a careful look at your rel_<version>_candidate keywords on bugzilla. It seems there are lots of bugfixes that never get backported 14:41 mtj i pmed you 14:35 mtj hi wizzyrea 14:35 tcohen for reference, for Koha's internal use we generate /etc/koha/sites/<instance>/zebra.passwd and that info can also be found in koha-conf.xml for authorityserver and biblioserver 14:34 tcohen you need to have the relevant authentication section on the publicserver definition 14:27 wizzyrea hi friends - i have a question and I've been going around and around and it's probably very easy and i just can't find how to do it - how does one set up the password protection on the zebra z3950 service? Not the incoming records - the z3950 access from outside the library 14:05 * tcohen likes 13:53 oleonard That would be fun 13:52 paulderscheid[m] I just had a fun thought: Why don't we put animated clocks of the different timezones on the dashboard? 13:50 oleonard o/ 13:43 mtj ill paste a bit more info about the failing sele/patrons.t soon 13:35 tuxayo Ah great 13:34 tcohen that's great :-D 13:34 tcohen a minor refactoring broke a feature, and we detected it 13:33 tcohen regression_tests++ 13:26 tcohen mtj++ 13:25 ashimema lol 13:25 tcohen git_bisect++ 13:25 tcohen Date: Fri Sep 16 07:07:00 2022 +0000 13:25 tcohen Author: Marcel de Rooy <m.de.rooy@rijksmuseum.nl> 13:25 tcohen commit 097b2afb17da42878c8fffaf7ebdab1ad0cb49fa 13:25 tcohen 097b2afb17da42878c8fffaf7ebdab1ad0cb49fa is the first bad commit 13:24 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 13:24 tcohen @later tell marcelr you owe me a beer 13:23 mtj ^ ive been testing on that older commit 13:22 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7021 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, emmi.takkinen, Pushed to master , Add patron category to the statistics table 13:22 mtj 85030fc38a (HEAD -> z11, origin/master) Bug 7021: DBRev 22.06.00.051 13:21 mtj loading the db before starting a test, was a good method for debugging the sele/patrons.t tests 13:20 tcohen thanks! 13:20 tcohen ok, running as root makes it fail 13:20 mtj mysql --host=db --user=koha_kohadev --password=password koha_kohadev < back.sql ; perl ./t/db/sele/patrons.t 13:20 mtj then... 13:19 mtj $ mysqldump --host=db --user=koha_kohadev --password=password koha_kohadev > back.sql 13:19 mtj tcohen: the dump was made just after 'ku' finished booting... 13:16 tcohen right, it could offer closing things, etc 13:15 paulderscheid[m] tcohen: I feel like the autocompletions and suggestions could be better 13:13 tcohen and also, where are you running it? 13:12 tcohen on pm 13:12 tcohen can you share that dump? 13:12 mtj hmm, but i havent pulled recently 13:12 mtj hi tcohen: i get that failure ^ 13:11 pastebot "mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Auth_with_shibboleth.t 2" (84 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/15168 13:09 pastebot "mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Auth_with_shibboleth.t" (16 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/15167 12:59 tcohen please: try locally, if it fails, call me :-D 12:58 tcohen seems like a really easy fix, but I cannot reproduce 12:58 tcohen I really need help with Auth_with_shibboleth.t 12:57 tcohen ? 12:57 tcohen we need a sleep 12:57 tcohen oh 12:48 mtj sele seems to have a general problem with the 'processing' alert box, when updating a table 12:47 mtj hi tcohen, i did make a little progress on the failing sele patrons.t test 12:15 tcohen <3 12:15 magnuse_ happy equinox, #koha! 12:14 tcohen paulderscheid[m]: what do you want to change from the current TT extension? 12:14 * tcohen needs coffee, typed a bug number in 3 different ways on each patch 12:11 tcohen paulderscheid[m]: \o/ 12:07 tuxayo hi #koha :) 11:59 paulderscheid[m] I think I‘m going to write a new tt extension for VSCode this year. 11:51 tcohen can anyone reproduce the t/Auth_with_shibboleth.t failure locally? (I cannot) 11:48 tcohen happy friday 11:29 tcohen hola #koha! 09:09 magnuse_ i did get lucky though, and found some improperly nested tt tags quite fast 09:08 magnuse_ interesting! 09:01 mtj http://www.template-toolkit.org/docs/tools/tpage.html 09:01 mtj magnuse_: tpage could be useful for debugging syntax errors 08:53 magnuse_ mtj: thanks, i have missed that! 08:51 mtj hi magnuse_, try the debug option http://www.template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Directives.html#section_DEBUG 07:49 magnuse_ logs say: Template process failed: file error - parse error - /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/modules/opac-memberentry.tt line 1372: unexpected end of input at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Templates.pm line 122. 07:47 magnuse_ i have a tt file of 1300++ lines and suspect a problem with the nesting of the tt "tags". is there a good way to debug tt? like syntax checking/highlighting or similar? 07:44 magnuse_ kia ora dcook 07:16 dcook time for me to go hooooome 07:16 dcook hola Europeans 07:02 wahanui que tal, alex_ 07:02 alex_ Bonjour 06:54 wahanui hi, reiveune 06:54 reiveune hello 06:03 marcelr hi #koha 03:57 wajasu say goodnight gracie 03:54 wajasu https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/admin_area/settings/sign_up_restrictions.html#allow-or-deny-sign-ups-using-specific-email-domains 03:47 tuxayo Even though if for every patch submitted, the dev would signoff two other patches, that would solves the bottlenecks but slow new patch submissions rates. But time not wasted in not doing endless rebases should balance that of almost. But anyway, getting a lot of librarians to test would be great also. 03:46 tuxayo I say librarians but anyone can come, it's just that I try to get new workforce in the community, not converting existing one to testing. 03:46 tuxayo And Monday with English speaking ones. 03:46 tuxayo Going to bed finally, tomorrow patch testing session with french speaking librarians :) 03:42 tuxayo That's a global GitLab.com issue. Only they can allow your domain. 03:42 tuxayo > the admin for gitlab for koha could allow my email domain 03:41 wajasu in my case i still use mt ancient email account for bugzilla. but gitlab won't accept my email to signup. the admin for gitlab for koha could allow my email domain. so i can't do merge requests until i get a new email one day. 03:39 tuxayo 🔥💃🔥 03:38 dcook And I hear you on working on Koha until the apocalypse 03:38 dcook (good point about the merge requests) 03:37 tuxayo Don't worry about that. Adding follow-up is very welcome. That's a very nice thing of our workflow with bugzilla, anyone can add patches to any submission. With merge requests, that would be a barrier. 03:37 tuxayo > don't want to step on any ones toes that worked a patch though. 03:35 tuxayo Thanks ^^ Even with not enough time to work on that, that's still the minimum to be able not need to use savings anymore. So I can work forever on Koha now â™¾ï¸ :D (until the end of abundant oil that will screw things up ^^") 03:35 tuxayo > Hehe. But seriously. Good to hear that you're getting paid for your efforts. 03:34 dcook Time for me to go do other tings though I think.. 03:33 dcook https://youtu.be/zjL4LHEH74g?t=26861 03:33 dcook Ah there we are 03:33 dcook Hmm I"m at that timestamp but don't see anything.. 03:31 tuxayo Yet to watch it. 03:31 tuxayo KohaCon day 2 timestamp 7:27:00 03:31 dcook I'll have to watch any recordings they do 03:30 dcook hehe 03:30 tuxayo These people are very suspect :) 03:30 tuxayo «Brendan Gallagher (ByWater Solutions), Paul Poulain (BibLibre), Andrew Auld (PTFS Europe Limited), Jonathan Field (PTFS Europe Limited), and Nate Curulla (ByWater Solutions)» 03:30 tuxayo «Funding QA and Joint Development» 03:30 tuxayo Maybe one of the KohaCon talk is about this funding. 03:30 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23732 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, victor, Patch doesn't apply , Hold rules checker: show matched rules and syspref values to help understand why a hold is possible or not 03:30 tuxayo RMaint of oldoldstable + bringing back from the dead the hold rules checker (bug 23732) and the trainings I'm getting for managing my company and fact that i'm working part time causes that I'm not putting much work on QA&SO though :( 03:30 tuxayo > Oh nice! I was wondering about that! 03:29 wajasu great 03:29 dcook It's a good way of moving things along 03:29 dcook wajasu: Yeah, typically you can sign off the first patch, you supply your patch, then someone else (including the original author) can sign off your patch 03:28 wajasu don't want to step on any ones toes that worked a patch though. 03:28 wajasu since you have QA as followup, could i signoff if i contributed a patch? 03:27 wajasu if work a signoff, and really get into the bug, but it fails. can i supply the patch to help fix. then let someone else sign it off? 03:26 dcook Hehe. But seriously. Good to hear that you're getting paid for your efforts. 03:26 dcook Glad to hear you're part of the cabal! 03:25 dcook tuxayo: Oh nice! I was wondering about that! 03:25 tuxayo dcook, About that, since two months I'm being paid for my time on QA and Signoff by some of the support companies here. ^^ 03:25 tuxayo > And really there are a few companies that do operate behind the scenes to coordinate their resources/time 03:24 tuxayo *changes. 03:24 tuxayo The introduction of LTS won't change that. And it make the work easier since you don't get 2 years of conflicts. Each backporting step get part of the changes? 03:23 wajasu i see. 03:23 tuxayo Backports work in cascade. When it's merged in main, the RMaints of stable picks it and only then the RMaint of oldstable. And than oldoldstable. And then LTS 03:22 wajasu well, if you have somone backporting a fix to a prior version, they would prioritize the LTS version. 03:21 tuxayo What do you mean? 03:20 wajasu once you get LTS in there, people can work backports with that one in mind. 03:20 dcook Search may be slow but this at least lets it finish.. 03:20 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31614 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add configurable timeout for Zebra connections 03:20 dcook bug 31614 03:20 dcook Yeah the build section is cool 03:20 dcook At the moment, it looks like the biggest count is Failed QA heh 03:20 wajasu yes. i got into that. love the build section. 03:19 dcook Btw if you're not familiar with it already... https://dashboard.koha-community.org/ 03:19 wajasu that's what i thought. 03:18 tuxayo wajasu: «so i will just do signoffs to speed up the workflow.» That's the biggest bottleneck with QA. And if it wasn't so much a bottleneck, there would be more care of the less obvious proposals that get stuck. 03:17 tuxayo Merci beaucoup. 03:17 tuxayo Ok, thanks ^^ 03:17 wajasu have knowledge of the day to day discussions/efforts 03:16 dcook tuxayo: We're au courant heh 03:16 tuxayo What do you mean wajasu ? That's out of my english knowledge 03:16 tuxayo > you guys are privy with the day to day. 03:16 dcook And really there are a few companies that do operate behind the scenes to coordinate their resources/time 03:16 dcook It's true and it's gotten us this far 03:15 tuxayo Very organic and doesn't require much hierarchy and coordinated ressources. 03:15 tuxayo > The argument is that everyone has their own interests, so they pursue them, and that's that 03:14 tuxayo That's very theorical ↑ 03:14 tuxayo It looks rare that a company has moments where we can invest in some change in a given direction. So if we we all sat down, had a vote, and decided where we wanted Koha to be in the next 1-5 years then several companies need to have at the same time the free ressources to make happen the decisions. 03:14 dcook Signoffs are good :D 03:14 dcook Well, I'm not in the most ideal timezone heh 03:13 wajasu you guys are privy with the day to day. i guess i could go read old meetings over the year. so i will just do signoffs to speed up the workflow. 03:13 dcook If everyone voted that they wanted to spend the next year changing every colour to a different shade of pink, I probably wouldn't invest time in helping 03:12 dcook And that does make a certain amount of sense.. 03:12 dcook The argument is that everyone has their own interests, so they pursue them, and that's that 03:12 dcook And then worked together to get there 03:12 dcook It's not like we all sat down, had a vote, and decided where we wanted Koha to be in the next 1-5 years 03:11 dcook The ERM and staff redesign are the efforts of just one person/company 03:11 tuxayo Or even that doesn't show direction? 03:10 tuxayo What do you mean? Like people throw patches and hope for them to be accepted? Without real planning like we see with ERM or staff redesign 03:10 tuxayo dcook: «But yeah unfortunately no direction for Koha» 03:09 wajasu i don't know what the atomic update stuff is about? maybe when they get the new wiki going i can get up to speed. 03:07 wajasu well, it was nice to see the kohacon this week. 03:01 wajasu i got confused becaue i needed to run cp_debian_files after every script edit. 02:58 wajasu plus i go in a fix because multiple scripts need to share code. i.e. the shell functions 02:58 wajasu thats the trend 02:57 wajasu yes 02:57 dcook Maybe kohactl would be better than the hodgepodge of scripts that we have currently.. 02:56 dcook koha-create? 02:56 dcook O_o 02:56 wajasu if they were configured. 02:56 wajasu well i didn't know about koha-common starting up and shutting down all the services, so i edited koha-create to do that, adding in the SIP, and z3950. 02:54 dcook Not sure what you mean in regards to kohactl 02:54 wajasu i was going to doit in one image, but maybe a docker compose with multiple branhces running in the "docker" network would be useful. 02:54 dcook You can talk to Joubu and tcohen about that 02:53 wajasu with ktd we should be able to have 3 libraries/branches and standard patrons, and such to test complex ILL scenarios. 02:52 wajasu also the misc4dev magic that loads the superlibrarian, and test data, could use that. but you guys would have to agree to provide those scripts to pass tests when someone changes the installer. 02:49 wajasu from the commandline. 02:49 wajasu if something like that could be in the dev or maintenance scripts directory, one could run a consistent environment for tests. 02:48 wajasu then i just run it on new ktd or my images to save time. 02:47 wajasu i also used selenium-ide to create a script to walk through the isntaller/onboarding, etc with my defaults. 02:45 wajasu kohactl create ... 02:45 wajasu i think someone should write a kohactl (for all those separate scripts). 02:44 wajasu i made my koha kvm image cloud-init friendly, because I was pushing to linode. 02:43 dcook Yeah KTD is pretty sweet 02:43 dcook I admire the DSpace and Fedora Commons teams which are able to choose a direction and collectively work towards it 02:43 wajasu i'm glad they got the KTD. I have my packer/virtlib working now with all your pieces (mounted koha, etc) 02:43 dcook I've suggested for many years that we choose one, but no go 02:42 dcook But yeah unfortunately no direction for Koha 02:42 dcook When I do QAing, I'll usually fix the small issues I find, as it just seems more efficient than sending it back 02:42 * dcook is just a big grump these days 02:41 dcook Yeah, I just had one fail in part due to perltidy formatting apparently, although it had passed the QA tools so I don't know why it wasn't good enough... 02:40 wajasu i did a bunch of XSLT for my library, but this new version was sufficient with template toolkit. 02:39 wajasu i had one bug work, but it didn't pass perltidy formatting. I would expect a QA person could run that and test. Because by the time I go the fail, it was a year or so later. 02:38 dcook More clients, more projects, and less time 02:38 dcook I know I also have less time now than I used to as I have more projects.. 02:38 dcook At the end of the day, it's all about time 02:37 dcook But bugs still get through anyway 02:37 dcook That said, there was a lot of bad code back in the day too 02:37 dcook Yeah, we still had it years ago, but the overall process was less rigid 02:37 wajasu i see the workflow with QA, RM, etc now. I didn't know that it exsited years ago and expected things to go out. 02:37 dcook These days, I'm more interested in making it easier to customize Koha without upstreaming, which is unfortunate really... 02:36 dcook I've given up on quite a few things over the years 02:36 wajasu not a two week dev cycle for sure. 02:36 dcook It used to be easier 02:36 dcook Yeah, I recall you from years ago heh 02:36 wajasu yea. i did a bunch a bunch of years ago, and even though i wasn't around, i still got all the bugzilla updates via email when they got push through over the years. 02:35 dcook No way that one or two people could handle as many bug fixes as the community does together 02:35 dcook But... the collective effort is still worthwhile 02:35 dcook I think they're arguably the second biggest Koha company, and if they're struggling to make changes, I don't know what hope an individual has 02:34 dcook I'm wishing luck to BibLibre at the moment with the staff interface redesign 02:34 dcook Unless it's a small patch, it's really hard to get things accepted 02:33 dcook I don't think there is a direction 02:33 dcook wajasu: Hehe "direction" 02:28 wajasu i was going to work LDAP stuff, but I am not sure if the effort will be accepted. 02:27 wajasu i'l just work signoffs, but it's hard to tell what direction you guys are going in. 02:27 wajasu i had to dig through some needles in a haystack, but getting to 22.05 from 3.10 and fixing the mysql seqno stuff was the time consuming part. 02:25 dcook While I'm on a version where bug 28364 is "fixed", it's only fixed for new instances. Not upgraded ones.. :/ 02:25 dcook wajasu: I bet you must've run into a lot of frustrations. We don't take good enough care of the upgrade path... 02:24 wajasu i was hitting some of this a month ago. one time i was deleting my log files for my image but one of the servers didn't create it's log file, so no i just 'truncate the log files' 02:22 wajasu wooo 02:22 dcook Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh haha 02:21 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28364 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, CLOSED FIXED, koha-z3950-responder breaks because of log4perl.conf permissions 02:21 dcook bug 28364 02:15 dcook I am stubborn though... and I think I might know why it wasn't logging.. 02:06 dcook Well I don't have time for this garbage. No z3950 today I geuss 02:06 dcook Because apparently it can't handle its own pid file.. 02:06 dcook Coooool 02:06 dcook And now when I use koha-z3950-responder it fails to start too 02:02 dcook Cool when I run the script by hand, it just crashes silently 02:02 dcook Not so bad when you're in koha-testing-docker, but trying to troubleshoot a prod server.. :| 02:01 tuxayo Just add some warns in the lib files in /usr/share/perl5 😵â€ðŸ’« 01:59 dcook A lot of the server libraries on CPAN are awful in a lot of ways.. 01:59 dcook ikr 01:59 tuxayo Good luck with digging in a lib... 01:59 dcook Looks like it's probably an issue with Net::Z3950::SimpleServer though.. 01:58 dcook Exactement 01:58 tuxayo dcook: So it doesn't crash. But it doesn't do what is should? 01:51 dcook Nothing inthe logs of course.. 01:51 dcook I remember it was tough to get working the first time but this time is much worse.. 01:51 dcook This koha-z3959-responder is doing my head in.. 01:47 tuxayo *though. 01:47 tuxayo dcook: Andrew went back to work in a library. I don't know what kind of work though$ 01:42 dcook I do recall Nick's transformation though heh 01:41 dcook I think Andrew might still be in a librarian type role at BWS 01:40 tuxayo dcook: Nick for sure and Andrew FH I think started librarians 01:39 paulderscheid[m] dcook: yeah, with a transfer in Washington Dulles 01:37 dcook Got it working on one server but not the other.. 01:37 dcook and this koha-z3950-responder is driving me crazy.. 01:37 * dcook worked his first library job back in 2006 O_O 01:37 dcook Lots of programmers who have never worked in libraries heh 01:37 dcook Really? I think we're still fairly rare 01:35 tuxayo *an often 01:35 tuxayo And hi ^^ 01:35 tuxayo That looks like and often case in Koha :D 01:35 tuxayo dcook: «librarian by education and software engineer by profession» 01:34 tuxayo Most CO2 compensations are fishy so it's quite the work to know if it's reliable but there is definitely a chance that it was something that work. Since they aren't much costly it's worth a try. 01:34 tuxayo paulderscheid: «Yeah, we bought the CO2 certs but you‘re still right» 01:21 dcook I briefly thought about coming from Australia but it's not a great time atm.. 01:20 dcook Did you go to Kansas from Germany? 01:20 dcook Well I wanted to go into computers when I was a kid, so I just took a roundabout trip to get there.. 01:18 paulderscheid[m] dcook: Yeah, that’s life, I guess ^^ 00:35 dcook Didn't realize it's only early evening at Kohacon.. 00:17 dcook Just like me :D 00:16 dcook paulderscheid: I didn't realize you were a librarian by education and software engineer by profession