Time  Nick             Message
02:55 aman             Hello
02:57 aman             I am adding some languages to my koha OPAC and Staff Client interface with koha-translate command. All other languages work but not French. When French language is selected my opac search results don't display any metadata connected with the records
02:58 aman             My koha is the latest, installed from debian packages
03:04 aman             Happens both in OPAC and Staff client
03:05 aman             Switched between zebra and elasticssearch, same result
05:41 marcelr          hi #koha
06:23 magnuse_         \o/
06:24 * cait1          waves
06:30 reiveune         hello
06:30 wahanui          hey, reiveune
06:39 marcelr          mtj around?
06:40 marcelr          @later tell mtj under bullseye / 21.11 i have a Locale/XGettext/TT2.pm that does only not include the two version 0.6 lines; any idea ?
06:40 huginn`          marcelr: The operation succeeded.
06:52 marcelr          @later tell mtj The module without the VERSION numbers of TT2 is actually 0.1
06:52 huginn`          marcelr: The operation succeeded.
07:03 alex_            Bonjour
08:01 ashimema         Morning
08:05 tuxayo           Hi #koha :)
08:32 marcelr          hi ashimema tuxayo
08:32 tuxayo           hi marcelr :)
09:28 marcelr          bbl
09:34 mtj              hi tcohen: can we sort some wiki/canasta instances on the new prod system
09:37 mtj              @later tell marcelr: about now, ping me :)
09:37 huginn`          mtj: The operation succeeded.
10:54 tcohen           morning
10:54 ashimema         morning tcohen
11:01 tcohen           mtj: I'll try to make some time tomorrow for that. No nanny today and complex day
11:02 tcohen           will try to make pushes today, as I can do in short timespans for review
11:04 tcohen           anyone from biblibre? we need a jenkins@koha-community.org account (or similar) so notifications are back. My personal email provider got banned and we've lost many notifications
11:04 ashimema         interesting.. no idea if there is a koha-community.org mail exchange out there
11:05 ashimema         who owns the domain.. Liz perhaps?
11:06 mtj              tcohen: thanks, ping me if you need anything done
11:08 mtj              i think biblibre might admin kc.org emails, ping Joubu?
11:10 tcohen           jajm? alex_?
11:10 mtj              tcohen: could you make 2 wiki instances - prod and testing
11:11 tcohen           sure, we only have test right now
11:13 * ashimema       gets excited
11:19 mtj              mee too
11:20 mtj              i had a chat to thd yesterday, and things seem to be looking good on the new wiki
11:25 tcohen           yeah
11:26 tcohen           thd: around? Sorry for the delay on my end, will try to do it tomorrow
11:28 tcohen           #koha: any volunteers to look at selenium tests failures? I lost my fuel on that for the week
11:28 tcohen           [off] for the year maybe LOL
11:39 marcelr          o/
11:42 marcelr          mtj still around?
11:43 mtj              hi marcelr
11:43 marcelr          do you have a clue on TT2?
11:43 mtj              hmm, i will look now
11:44 marcelr          does the 21.11 repo contain the right version? how could I check that myself?
11:44 marcelr          apart from looking at install results
11:44 mtj              marcelr: i guess there is some subtle mismatch between master and 21.11
11:45 marcelr          yes it is a strange mismatch
11:45 marcelr          since only two lines with VERSION = seem to be missing
11:45 marcelr          are we replacing stuff in the code ?
11:46 marcelr          on cpan i saw that only version 0.1 misses the VERSION
11:47 marcelr          or does a later install overwrite stuff with something older perhaps
11:47 marcelr          sorry for thinking out loud :)
11:51 mtj              tcohen: i am curious about rewriting  a/some problimatic selenium tests to playwright
11:52 mtj              https://metacpan.org/pod/Playwright
11:53 mtj              im hoping optimistically that a rewrite from one to other, would be straightforward
11:55 mtj              if playwright proved to have reliable tests, it would be worth it
11:55 marcelr          no package for it, i guess
11:56 marcelr          just like selenium
12:26 tcohen           mtj[m]: it would be great if we could take a look
12:26 tcohen           besides the fact this tests are ugly to write
12:27 tcohen           I believe the problem is the preparation work that needs to be done to run them
12:27 tcohen           like, they are expecting data that is just not there, sometimes
12:27 tcohen           so really hard to reproduce locally
12:27 mtj              hi tcohen, but wouldbt we have the same problem with playwright?
12:29 mtj              hmm, i dont think that explains the random selenium fails on jenkins
12:30 tcohen           I know, I'm not sure yet about this particular problem. I'm just mentioning reproducing locally is not that simple.
12:30 tcohen           Maybe we should add an alias or command in KTD
12:30 tcohen           hmm
12:30 marcelr          tcohen: git rm ?
12:31 tcohen           LOL
12:31 marcelr          just get rid of the perl scripts and you are done
12:32 mtj              tcohen: ah yes, the db needs to be in a certain state, before the sele tests pass
12:47 marcelr          ashimema, tcohen: any news on bug 30588 in relation to api path ?
12:47 huginn`          Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30588 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Add the option to require 2FA setup on first staff login
12:47 marcelr          should we rename it ?
12:53 tcohen           internet fun
12:54 cait             I thought rangi
12:54 cait             hups, shodul scroll down, was re emails
13:00 tcohen           marcelr: huh=
13:00 tcohen           didn't know about that one, tbh
13:01 tcohen           marcelr: can you help with background jobs for staging/import?
13:01 tcohen           I can take a look at yours
13:02 marcelr          tcohen: do you mean 30982 ?
13:02 marcelr          i will qa that one tomorrow
13:03 tcohen           that'd be a good start, yes
13:03 tcohen           thanks
13:03 marcelr          as for 30588 i was in the assumption that martin already talked with you about it
13:04 marcelr          at least he was planning to..
13:04 tcohen           I'm pretty sure
13:04 tcohen           I must have forgotten
13:04 marcelr          you are like an elephant never forgetting
13:06 tcohen           You mean big and old? LOL
13:06 tcohen           I'll refresh that conversation with ashimema
13:08 marcelr          good plan
13:10 cait             tcohen: wrinkly ;)
13:18 * tcohen         googles wrinkly
13:19 tcohen           LOL
13:20 oleonard         Hi #koha
13:21 oleonard         KohaCon day 3 at the beautiful Lawrence Public Library
13:26 paulderscheid[m] Morning from Lawrence, KS o/ Finally got working WiFi
13:27 marcelr          hi kohacon
13:33 pastebot         "mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "apt install libplaywright-perl" (16 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/15098
13:33 mtj              hi marcelr, that might work ^
13:45 marcelr          nice mtj (iirc looks easier than the selenium stuff?)
13:49 mtj              looks nice enough... https://github.com/teodesian/playwright-perl/blob/main/example.pl
13:53 mtj              looks like vscode is the go https://playwright.dev/docs/getting-started-vscode
13:56 tundunf          hi all!
13:56 mtj              https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/deploysentinel-recorder
13:57 mtj              "Record browser interactions to auto generate Cypress, Playwright and Puppeteer test scripts."
13:57 mtj              hi tundunf
14:00 oleonard         Cypress is what Joubu is using with the ERM stuff isn't it?
14:01 marcelr          iirc it is
14:02 marcelr          looking for another job with all that autogenerate stuff :)
14:11 h2               Hi! Total IRC newbie here, trying it out, waving hello.
14:11 oleonard         Hi!
14:11 Michael_Adamyk   Hello!
14:11 AndrewFH         howdy :)
14:12 oleonard         Does oftc show you the list of people who are online? usually most of those people are lurking or not actually here. It can be hard to tell!
14:12 Jenny            hello
14:12 wahanui          bidet, Jenny
14:12 oleonard         So it's always worth blurting out your question
14:13 Jenny            just testing how the IRC works
14:13 h2               Hi!
14:13 Jenny            IDENTIFY Jenny
14:13 oleonard         There are a couple of bots that help us out, like wahanui who greeted you and answers some questions
14:13 Jenny            Sorry, it says authenticate with IDENTIFY (idk)
14:14 Jenny            oh ok- re the bots
14:14 Jenny            interesting
14:14 ashimema         hello
14:14 wahanui          privet, ashimema
14:14 oleonard         Jenny you don't need to worry about the authentication thing
14:14 Jenny            ok Leonard- thank you
14:14 oleonard         @seen kidclamp
14:14 huginn`          oleonard: kidclamp was last seen in #koha 1 day, 18 hours, 40 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <kidclamp> I do that sometimes, but when I hear my CPU fan kick on, I throttle back :-D
14:14 AndrewFH         some irc info that might be helpful: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Channel
14:15 AndrewFH         and a who's-who: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
14:15 oleonard         ^^ an example of how huginn (another bot) helps us
14:15 Jenny            I'm currently tuned in to the conference so I will come off here now. As I said I just wanted to test. Thanks guys
14:17 h2               This is neat--I'm tuned in to the conference, too, so will go back to it.  I'll drop in here again sometime!  Bye!
14:31 milktoast        Is there an online KOHA VirtualBox that one cold download to practice, test and show others about KOHA
14:32 cait             milktoast: a sandbox is helpful sometimes for a quick show - or the demos on the website
14:32 AndrewFH         there are a few options. the easiest might be the live demo site ByWater Solutions runs. just go to https://bywatersolutions.com/ and scroll down until you see the bit about a demo site
14:32 AndrewFH         it'll tell you how to access both the online catalog and the staff interface
14:33 cait             there is no 'ready to use' virtualbox made by the communty
14:33 ashimema         sandboxes?
14:33 wahanui          sandboxes are down apparently
14:33 AndrewFH         here's a wiki page about the sandboxes: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes
14:33 cait             https://koha-community.org/demo/ and  https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes
14:34 milktoast        thanks
14:57 oleonard         wahanui: forget sandboxes
14:57 wahanui          oleonard: I forgot sandboxes
14:57 oleonard         wahanui: sandboxes is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes
14:57 wahanui          OK, oleonard.
14:57 oleonard         sandboxes?
14:57 wahanui          sandboxes is probably https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes
14:57 oleonard         Probably, wahanui? Really?
15:00 AndrewFH         heya @bag :)
15:01 cait             oleonard: don't upset the bot!
15:05 oleonard         What's the worst they can they do, rise up and kill all humans?? :D
15:05 cait             I'd call that tempting fate?
15:08 ashimema         you just put this in my head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IPAOxrH7Ro
15:08 oleonard         👍
15:18 reiveune         bye
16:52 kohaadmin        Hi, Need help with translator for OPAC and Staff Client
16:53 kohaadmin        All languages are working but French is not working. The search in the catalogue returns records without any associated bibliographic information/metadata when French language is selected
17:33 milktoast        I asked this at the Con and no one has heard of or used it... has anyone used and converted from Primasoft's "Handy Library Manage" to KOHA? This is what I'm tying to do.
18:01 milktoast        Does Koha support complex import
18:02 milktoast        Asking because of this page to export ours https://www.primasoft.com/advantage-organizer-help/import-export-export-sample.htm
18:33 paulderscheid[m] Which path is a page in if created with the new pages feature in master?
18:36 oleonard         Like this in the staff interface: /cgi-bin/koha/tools/page.pl?page_id=84
18:36 oleonard         In the OPAC: /cgi-bin/koha/opac-page.pl?page_id=84
18:45 oleonard         Bug 15326
18:45 wahanui          Bug 15326 is, like, making good progress. Still needs work, but getting a lot closer
18:45 huginn`          Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15326 new feature, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to master , Add CMS feature
18:46 oleonard         paulderscheid[m]: The test plan implies that you must do your own customization to be able to link to new OPAC pages
18:46 oleonard         wahanui forget Bug 15326
18:46 wahanui          oleonard: I forgot bug 15326
18:50 paulderscheid[m] oleonard++
18:57 ashimema         There's a follow-up bug by marcelr that improves those links a little btw pauldetscheid
18:58 paulderscheid[m] Thanks ashimema
18:58 paulderscheid[m] I remember you not being happy with how it was Setup
18:58 ashimema         I still reckon we can do better . But I've not played too much with it yet
18:58 paulderscheid[m] My boss seems pretty intrigued
18:59 ashimema         Can't entirely remember the details honestly
18:59 ashimema         It had moved a lot since if first looked at it
18:59 ashimema         It's a great feature
19:00 ashimema         I just think we should be able to do better with URLs ... Instead of exposing internal IDs I think we should have nice clear urls
19:00 ashimema         Kinda like WordPress gives pretty url
19:00 ashimema         But yeah.. that can come later
19:10 cait1            :)
19:10 cait1            paulderscheid[m]: say hi to the boss ;)
19:10 cait1            I heard you won some mugs!
19:12 paulderscheid[m] Yeah, for the longest trip to KohaCon ^^
19:13 cait1            :)
19:13 paulderscheid[m] cait1: I will
19:13 cait1            enjoying your first KohaCon?
19:13 paulderscheid[m] It's great
19:14 cait1            :)
23:01 tuxayo           > I heard you won some mugs!
23:01 tuxayo           > Yeah, for the longest trip to KohaCon ^^
23:02 tuxayo           lol, you got the prize "for the climate"
23:02 tuxayo           aka, the flightshame prize :P
23:03 tuxayo           actually it's a good surprise that you got it Paul, it could have been much worse in terms of distance
23:04 tuxayo           so you can be proud :P
23:39 paulderscheid[m] Yeah, we bought the CO2 certs but you‘re still right