Time Nick Message 03:33 tuxayo Emails sent to the general and devel mailing lists for a patch testing session the 26th 03:42 tuxayo Hopefully we can get enough people[1] to regularly test patches and get the need signoff queue down! 🤞 03:42 tuxayo [1] and librarians, that would be new blood in the community so the best to get more development throughput 06:18 marcelr hi #koha 06:34 reiveune hello 06:34 wahanui salut, reiveune 06:47 fridolin Bug 31542 a cosmetic "faux pas" 06:47 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31542 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Home page links wrong font-family 08:56 ashimema tuxayo++ 08:57 * cait1 waves 09:35 cait1 Does someone know which bug fixed Can't call method "GetPlugins" on an undefined value at > > /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/BackgroundJob.pm line 402. ? Tomas said on th emailing list he'd file it but didn't find it 09:35 cait1 and it's still an issue in 22.05.04 09:36 marcelr could that be 31223 09:36 marcelr bug 31223 09:36 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31223 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to master , Batch edit items explodes if plugins disabled 09:37 cait1 ah ok, this one appeared outside of batch editing 09:37 marcelr Not backported yet 09:38 marcelr yes it should be the one 09:38 cait1 thx marcelr - didn't connect the dots here 09:38 cait1 pushed a month ago 09:38 marcelr summer time :) 09:54 paulderscheid[m] cait1: around? 09:58 cait1 yep 09:58 cait1 paulderscheid[m]: 10:31 oleonard Hi #koha 10:32 ashimema Morning oleonard 10:32 ashimema prepare to be pounced upon by cait1 😛 10:33 cait1 oh hey 10:33 wahanui hi, cait1 10:35 cait1 and morning oleonard :) 10:44 oleonard Anyone else feel hung over from trying to keep up with all the Queen memes yesterday? It was hard work. 10:44 ashimema lol 10:46 cait1 wel, soon there will be King memes I guess 11:14 oleonard So the latest version of bug 30952 has a modified version of my search header design... 11:14 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30952 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , New design for staff interface 11:14 oleonard This process is so confusing. 11:15 cait1 agreed 11:23 ashimema 39052n is the biblibre sandbox.. I added 39052o tracking your branch Owen 11:24 ashimema I added 'n' because I didn't think I could delete their original sandbox.. but it turns out I could 11:24 ashimema their original was plain broken 11:27 cait1 I found an issue only in Owen's branch.... and now I don't knwo what to do lol 11:29 ashimema tell him 😛 11:29 oleonard I don't see my branch going anywhere 11:31 ashimema I think whatever we do with the search bar stuff is going to be somewhat contentious 11:32 ashimema I find the tiny icons really hard to remember and click.. but I'm sure the muscle memory will grow 11:34 cait1 no i think you are right 11:34 cait1 it's much less intiuitive and the click area is too small 11:34 cait1 I like Owen's better, it has text 11:35 cait1 oleonard's I mean 11:35 cait1 and it gives us more room to add custom nav links 11:35 ashimema I do and I don't ;P.. I think Owens is certainly clearer and better for accessibility.. but the look of the deeper header and inline search there has grown on me. 11:35 cait1 look < functionality/usability 11:35 ashimema but I also an english only testing.. so the space constraints aren't so apparent to me. 11:36 ashimema how do you get the language menu at the top instead of the bottom cait? 11:37 cait1 i didn't know that existed until now - but it's a preference in the staffinterface tab 11:37 ashimema aha.. found it. 11:38 ashimema hehe 11:38 * ashimema is basically turning things on to see what they do 11:40 oleonard Are y'all looking at a sandbox? 11:41 cait1 yes 11:41 cait1 or multiple, to make it more confusing 11:43 ashimema multiple 11:43 ashimema https://staff-bug30952n.sandboxes.biblibre.eu/ 11:43 ashimema biblibre only submission 11:43 ashimema https://staff-bug30952o.sandboxes.biblibre.eu/ 11:44 oleonard The Biblibre one is out of date: https://snipboard.io/EncSfi.jpg 11:44 ashimema with your search bar stuff. 11:44 ashimema how 11:44 ashimema where is that one from? 11:44 ashimema I only created the biblibre one this morning 11:45 oleonard Latest commit was around 2 hours ago 11:47 ashimema OK.. spinning up yet another sandbox 11:47 oleonard Hence my comment about the new search header being incorporated 11:47 ashimema I totally missed that comment 11:47 cait1 jajm: around? 11:47 ashimema 'tis moving fast now 11:47 cait1 'tis is a good sign 11:47 cait1 let us know which one please, I am slightly confused :) 11:48 jajm cait1: i'm here, but in a meeting right now 11:50 ashimema cait1: bug30952r is spinning up and grabs the very latest code from their github 11:50 cait1 ah ok 11:50 cait1 jajm: just so you know: there is things I DO like - but I can't file the likes 11:55 ashimema just building the css on that one now cait1, then it's ready to play with 11:55 cait1 yep, waiting it out 11:55 ashimema well.. I can show my colleagues the progress in my meeting in the few mins.. lol 11:56 ashimema all ready 11:57 cait1 link? 11:57 wahanui link is strange, add / at the end 11:57 ashimema https://staff-bug30952r.sandboxes.biblibre.eu/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl 11:58 cait1 forget link 11:58 wahanui cait1: I forgot link 11:58 cait1 much improved for the search 11:58 ashimema indeed 12:00 cait1 I still have the jumpy numbers :( 12:01 ashimema oh dear 12:01 cait1 oleonard: you are also using windows, right? do you see them too? https://github.com/jajm/koha-staff-interface-redesign/issues/20 12:01 wahanui okay, cait1. 12:03 oleonard cait1: I'm currently on a Mac, and I don't see them. I'll be able to look on a PC later today. 12:07 cait1 ok, thanks 12:07 cait1 it's consistent for me with chrome and firefox... 12:58 cait1 oh, i thought i missed all the action now... but nothing happened here? 12:59 oleonard Action? 12:59 wahanui Action is to make lots of actions 12:59 cait1 the testing action :) 12:59 cait1 jumpy numbers in all our team btw - I asked the coworkers to have a look 13:10 ashimema My colleagues aren't all that keen on Poppins either cait1.. they're suggesting 'Open Sans' or 'Fira Sans' as alternatives 13:10 ashimema brb 13:11 cait1 maybe comment on the fonts bug? 13:11 paulderscheid[m] font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"; 13:11 paulderscheid[m] I would argue that the best font for work is the native system font 13:11 cait1 as this is such a central thing I am keen that we make a good standard choice 13:11 paulderscheid[m] This is also a plus for responsiveness 13:12 cait1 i think comment on the github woudl be good 13:12 cait1 so far it was only me raising issues 13:12 cait1 https://github.com/jajm/koha-staff-interface-redesign/issues/20 13:12 cait1 we just had the other non-Koha cowrokers take a look - filing their feedback as we "write" 13:23 oleonard Fira Sans: https://snipboard.io/gFfCan.jpg 13:23 oleonard Open Sans: https://snipboard.io/F6IxL8.jpg 13:24 ashimema we've just been going over stuff.. finished my meeting now and they've all gone off to play 13:24 ashimema we will be commenting soon 13:25 ashimema One of them just suggested perhaps it's actually just the font weighting that's too high.. i don't know how specific we've been about picking this stuff before now or not 13:26 ashimema but I imagine weight can be rather different between fonts 13:27 ashimema table headers are 700 weight at the minute.. maybe just reducing them to 500 would help? 13:27 ashimema for example 13:27 oleonard Papyrus: https://snipboard.io/SVFi6k.jpg :D 13:28 ashimema love 13:29 cait1 papyrus might be for the people dealing with rare books :) 13:30 cait1 i thnk Fira is a little rounder somehow? 13:30 cait1 would be my favourite for now 13:31 cait1 help.... what is the thing in front of a list item called again? 13:32 drbone dash? 13:32 cait1 not the one I was looking for, but valid 13:33 cait1 list style button? 13:33 cait1 list style type 13:34 cait1 bullet point? 13:35 oleonard MDN calls it a "marker," probably because "bullet" has bad associations 13:35 cait1 oh 13:36 cait1 too late now 13:36 cait1 https://github.com/jajm/koha-staff-interface-redesign/issues/29 13:36 oleonard No big deal. 13:54 cait1 add item form is pretty broken 14:00 Shane-S Hi all, what DB field in items = the visual field of Inventory Number when looking at an item in OPAC? 14:01 Shane-S https://schema.koha-community.org/22_05/tables/items.html not seeing anything with Inventory Number 14:02 caroline_catlady Shane-S, i think you're looking for stocknumber 14:02 Shane-S ty ill try that 14:02 cait1 Shane-S: inventory number is not visible in the OPAC 14:02 cait1 do you mean barcode? 14:03 Shane-S Yeppers...I did copynumber thanks 14:03 cait1 copynumber is a part of the callnumber 14:03 Shane-S no stocknumber was the Inventory Number on the items view page 14:03 cait1 well - like an addition to it, as I understand it 14:03 cait1 hm ok 14:03 caroline_catlady I think it depends on your cataloging, here copy number is separate form clalnumber 14:03 cait1 ah ok 14:04 cait1 caroline_catlady++ :) 14:05 caroline_catlady with that said, I think none of my libraries use copynumber... I just transfer it for them from their old system that adds it automatically, but it doesn't change anything in Koha 14:05 ashimema /me goes for a quick walk 14:05 ashimema bbiab 14:05 caroline_catlady They do use enumchron a lot, on spine labels too 14:06 cait1 similar here - I think only one library that might use copynumber 14:06 cait1 I think I was told in the past that you printed it on the labels to differentiate multiple copies with same callnumber 14:07 caroline_catlady stocknumber we use for automatic import of ebooks from the ebook lending platform 14:08 caroline_catlady maybe copynumber makes sense in some types of libraries, but in public libraries here, if you have one copy or 15 copies, it doesn't really matter which one is #1, #2, etc 14:08 caroline_catlady I guess it's the same with yours 14:19 cait1 stocknumber is different here :) 14:19 cait1 we actually have inventory numbers 14:19 cait1 usually a combination of year and a sequential number 15:31 reiveune bye 18:16 milktoast now KOHA is running and the web test is wanting Elasticsearch 18:17 milktoast I tried to apt install it and gettin 18:17 milktoast Preparing to unpack .../elasticsearch_6.8.23_all.deb ... could not find java; set JAVA_HOME dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/elasticsearch_6.8.23_all.deb (--unpack): new elasticsearch package pre-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/elasticsearch_6.8.23_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) 19:37 tuxayo @later tell milktoast great so it seems your install went further. «the web test is wanting Elasticsearch» what do you mean? If you don't need specifically ES, don't bother with it. About Java, it's widely documented how to install on Ubuntu so hopefully it shouldn't block you long. 19:37 huginn` tuxayo: The operation succeeded. 23:03 tuxayo fridolin: 🟡 23:21 fridolin yeyyyyy 23:21 fridolin sun is shinning 23:21 fridolin :D