Time Nick Message 01:25 mtj tcohen++ congrats on the jenkins upgrade 02:07 tuxayo tcohen++ 02:09 tuxayo Discovery of the day: git rebase --signoff upstream/master 02:09 tuxayo it will signoff every commit on top of master! 02:09 tuxayo In one command! :D 02:11 fridolin tuxayo: whooooo handy 02:38 tuxayo @later tell Joubu 30847 doesn't apply (the infamous error, not even conflicts), rebase needed or at least pushing your local branch to a repo so I can use it to not get the error anymore and get instead conflicts that I'll try to solve. 02:38 huginn` tuxayo: The operation succeeded. 05:27 reiveune hello 05:28 paulderscheid[m] morning #koha 06:04 marcelr hi #koha 06:39 * ashimema is back 06:39 ashimema 1.2k messages in the log.. ouch 06:48 cait good morning #koha! 06:52 marcelr hi ashimema enjoyed your time off ? 06:52 marcelr hi cait 06:52 cait hi Marcel 06:53 ashimema I did indeed, it was a much needed break and tech detox 06:54 marcelr dont get too much poison on your first day :) 06:54 cait back on a Friday? what are you doing! 06:55 marcelr you know the vacation shortcut key: ctrl+A and delete 06:55 marcelr and 1.2K are gone 06:57 ashimema Haha, saves on leave days and gives me a day to work through mail and stuff rather than having to hit the day at a sprint 06:57 ashimema A few big upgrades next week 06:57 cait ok, so enjoy yor email backlog :) 06:57 ashimema Anyone care to summarize 2 weeks on Koha chatter? 06:58 cait we are here if you need to talk ;) 06:58 cait we decided on the lts Wednesday night 06:58 marcelr business as usual 06:58 ashimema Cool, what was the verdict? 06:58 cait but there should be an email some time 06:58 marcelr lol 06:58 ashimema Haha 06:58 cait 22.11, 1.5 years regular, 3 year lts, 1.5 year overlap 06:59 ashimema Coolios 07:01 dcook That was a fast 2 weeks... 07:02 marcelr hi dcook 07:02 wahanui hi dcook are you around? 07:02 dcook wahanui forget dcook 07:02 wahanui dcook: I forgot dcook 07:02 dcook dcook? 07:02 dcook :D 07:03 dcook allo marcelr 07:07 dcook I need to stop answering emails and get oot of here... 07:07 dcook welcome back ashimema 07:07 dcook ciao for now... 07:08 ashimema 🙂 07:25 marcelr @Joubu still around here ? 07:25 huginn` marcelr: I've exhausted my database of quotes 07:26 Joubu yes 07:26 marcelr Joubu: the second patch on bug 27421 is a problem 07:26 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27421 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, BLOCKED , Porting tools/stage-marc-import.pl to BackgroundJob 07:26 marcelr my reconstruction is not good 07:26 marcelr linux patch doesnt do the job 07:26 Joubu yes... pushing things in the same area we are doing refactoring \o/ 07:26 Joubu I will have a look in a bit 07:28 ashimema How's the background job stuff been going in my absence.. much movement? 07:28 ashimema Refactorings sound promising 07:29 Joubu rebasing them... 07:39 Joubu marcelr: reattaching, obsoleting yours. I haven't tested them yet however. 07:43 Joubu marcelr: seems ok after a quick test 07:47 marcelr great, now deep into the dates stuff 08:18 paulderscheid[m] ashimema: You survived ^^ 08:18 Joubu in case I haven't shared it enough - note that this is the entry point for ERM: https://tree.taiga.io/project/joubu-koha-erm/wiki/home 08:30 paulderscheid[m] Did you already decide on the release maintainer for the LTS version in the last dev meeting? 08:31 paulderscheid[m] Just out of curiosity. We're very happy @LMSCloud. 08:32 Joubu happy about being the release maintainer for the LTS version? 08:32 Joubu :D 08:32 paulderscheid[m] Haha, no. ^^ 08:32 paulderscheid[m] Happy that there will be an LTS. 08:34 paulderscheid[m] Maybe we can provide the release maintainer for the next LTS. 08:34 paulderscheid[m] We'll see. 08:36 ashimema finding a maintainer will always be the hardest bit I reckon 08:37 paulderscheid[m] I'm not competent enough about koha and perl yet, or I'd jump right on it. 08:38 ashimema best way to learn is to jump 😜 08:39 paulderscheid[m] I still feel like that's too critical for someone who started working on Koha 7 months ago ^^ 08:39 ashimema there are friendly people to help 😜 08:39 ashimema haha 08:39 ashimema perhaps 😜 08:39 ashimema testing and QA are great first steps 08:39 paulderscheid[m] How do you get into QA. Do you just volunteer? 08:41 cait that's about it 08:42 ashimema anyone can fail QA too 08:44 ashimema signing off things and giving constructive criticism to the UX and design, and asking questions about code choices is good 08:44 ashimema be great to see you in the next team paulderscheid 08:45 paulderscheid[m] I'd be happy. 08:45 cait exactly that, sorry, got distracted (and wouldn't be able to phrase it tht well) :) 08:46 cait but yeah, we got a big backlog with a little more technical sign-offs too 08:46 cait so starting there would be pretty awesome too 08:46 paulderscheid[m] There's a ton of bugs that revolve around 'boring' stuff that no-one wants to touch. ^^ 08:47 ashimema yup 08:47 ashimema there's also a huge number of small bugs that can be picked off.. 08:47 ashimema I tend to try and chug through at least a few of these daily before starting on a harder one.. just to keep the queues flowing 08:48 ashimema keeping those moving would help free up others for the scary stuff 08:48 ashimema and they're generally a good way to get up to speed 08:52 paulderscheid[m] Yeah, somehow I always end up with very complicated ones that seemed easy. ^^ But that's just experience, I guess. 08:54 cait I think it's normal 08:54 cait like when pulling on a thread on a knitted sweater... 08:54 ashimema haha 08:54 ashimema indeed 08:56 ashimema I tend to look at the needs signoff bugs, sorted by severity and patch complexity 08:56 ashimema 'trivial patch' should be fairly trivial 😜 08:56 paulderscheid[m] That's a good tip 08:57 Joubu marcelr: looks ok for me using dd/mm/yyyy and mm/dd/yyyy 08:57 marcelr it is okay only when i use yymmdd 08:58 ashimema not everyone is good at adding those fields on bugzilla.. but they are usually fairly accurate 🙂 08:58 ashimema like, I imagine bug 31234 could be up your street paulderscheid.. it's a tiny javascript change 08:58 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31234 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , SubfieldsToAllowForRestrictedEditing : data from drop-down menu not stored 09:00 paulderscheid[m] Cool, thanks. 09:02 marcelr please help on bug 30718 09:02 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30718 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Use flatpickr's altInput option everywhere 09:02 marcelr it applies now 09:02 marcelr please test it 09:02 marcelr see my last comments 09:02 ashimema excellent 09:02 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 09:03 Joubu marcelr: I am setting up a sandbox 09:04 Joubu marcelr: https://staff-bug30718.sandboxes.biblibre.eu/cgi-bin/koha/reserve/request.pl?biblionumber=117 09:04 Joubu can you recreate the problem there? 09:04 Joubu syspref is metric 09:04 marcelr hmm Joubu i added the hold on opac 09:04 Joubu ha! 09:05 marcelr small detail hahaha 09:05 Joubu that's why steps to recrate is useful ;) 09:05 marcelr most holds are created on opac 09:05 Joubu OPAC has different JS functions... 09:05 Joubu when it's not specified I am assuming the staff client is used 09:06 marcelr how can i log in on this sandbox 09:06 Joubu OPAC explodes Invalid value passed, reserves.expirationdate=23/08/2022 expected type is date at /usr/share/perl5/Exception/Class/Base.pm line 88 09:06 Joubu koha/koha 09:07 marcelr thats reassuring to me 09:07 marcelr wasnt testing for nothing at least 09:08 Joubu hum opac has been mostly ignored from this patchset... 09:08 marcelr yeah opac is not important lol 09:08 Joubu flatpickr's options haven't been adjusted there 09:09 marcelr sounds like more work.. 09:14 Joubu not much 09:19 marcelr switched back to 27421 09:22 cait put on my QA hat now too - had to catch up on mails first from my day off yesteday 09:25 marcelr Joubu: some tests may not be easy indeed, but provide great mocking opportunities 09:26 Joubu the jobs are simply calling 1 C4 subroutine... 09:26 Joubu we could mock everything and make sure the sub is called, but that's kind of pointless 09:27 marcelr i ran a few tests already while git grepping changed subs 09:27 marcelr it is the standard 'we had no tests before' thing ? 09:28 Joubu please, not to me :D 09:28 Joubu it's more "how to write useful test" 09:28 ashimema bug 27421 09:28 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27421 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Porting tools/stage-marc-import.pl to BackgroundJob 09:28 marcelr note that i have been writing kind of pointless tests because qa insisted 09:29 Joubu see last comment. I can make you happy and write something silly, but I am really wondering how we could provide something meaningful for that kind of modules 09:29 Joubu marcelr: yes but today I am not in a mood I want to lose my time writing useless code 09:29 marcelr i understand your point but it is a very dangerous argument 09:30 marcelr i will continue interfacet testing 09:34 marcelr Progress: 1 / 0 is really strange 09:36 marcelr Joubu: my import job finished but says 1/0 but the stage job finished with 1/1 09:36 marcelr the record got in just fine 09:38 marcelr | 9 | finished | 1 | 0 | 51 | marc_import_commit_batch 09:40 Joubu hum weird, it might be coming from the callback 09:41 Joubu I had trouble with the call methods in C4::ImportBatch, they were not working 09:41 Joubu but I thought the patches fixed them 09:46 marcelr anyone willing to test bug 29144 ? 09:46 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29144 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Move branches.opac_info to AdditionalContents allowing multi language 09:51 marcelr Joubu i will be following up on those two bugs 27421 and 30718 in coming weeks but next week will probably not show much activity from me 09:51 Joubu thank you, marcelr! 09:57 ashimema marcelr 09:57 ashimema Note: You may need to set ListOwnershipUponPatronDeletion to 09:57 ashimema delete to fix a pending issue in patron->delete with lists. 09:57 ashimema is that a mistake comment in `Bug 29144: Add $contents->find_best_match, $library->opac_info` 09:57 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29144 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Move branches.opac_info to AdditionalContents allowing multi language 10:02 cait bbiab 10:44 cait can somemone QA bug 30992? I signed off 10:44 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30992 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Hard to translate single word strings 10:45 cait same for bug 31264 please 10:45 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31264 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , CalendarFirstDayOfWeek not taken into account when configuring curbside pickups 10:46 cait I am back on 29897 10:49 ashimema I'm on 30992 now 10:55 ashimema done and done 10:56 cait thx! 10:58 cait ashimema: you are too fast :) I have a small follow-up bug for 20992: bug 31272 10:58 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31272 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Show library name not code when placing item level holds in OPAC 10:58 ashimema hehe 10:58 cait written by me... :) 10:59 ashimema excellent 10:59 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 10:59 ashimema great to see bug 31162 garnering interest 10:59 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31162 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Add a clear cataloguing module home page 11:39 tcohen hola #koha 11:39 tcohen wb ashimema 11:41 tcohen hola Joubu! 11:49 mtj hi folks, ive added some TZ tests for the u18/brazil/sao_paulo bug 30030 11:49 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30030 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , Test t/db_dependent/Koha/Patrons.t is_going_to_expire fails on U18 12:40 cait back on 20511 12:42 ashimema bug 20511 12:42 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20511 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Seasonal prediction just in the staff language 13:13 cait hm is this a "strict SQL" bug? 13:14 cait C4::Serials::Numberpattern::AddSubscriptionNumberpattern(): DBI Exception: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Field 'description' doesn't have a default value at /kohadevbox/koha/serials/create-numberpattern.pl line 58 13:16 cait filed 31297 13:40 oleonard Is there some kind of extra setup step I need to take for plugin searches to work? 13:40 oleonard I keep getting a 500 error 13:40 ashimema hmm, shouldn't be 13:40 oleonard ...although I don't know if I see anything relevant in the logs 14:06 tcohen ashimema: should we move koha2koha and freeform to core ? 14:06 ashimema yes 14:06 tcohen ok 14:06 ashimema 🙂 14:06 ashimema I reckon so 14:07 ashimema though I also think koha2koha should gradually get converted to both sides of the ISO standard 14:07 ashimema so Koha2Koha becomes ISO both ways 14:07 tcohen there seems to be wake in interest on them, and having them as core features would (1) ease implementation and (2) allow translations and better integration 14:07 ashimema agreed 14:08 ashimema I'm losing the battle here to formalise that we switch ILL backends to proper plugins instead of the current half way house they ocupy 14:08 oleonard I was just wondering about that 14:09 oleonard (trying to play with Koha2Koha now) 14:13 tcohen in order to make koha2koha and freeform core, we need to solve the 'path' weirdness of ILL backends 14:13 tcohen i.e. there one and only one path and classes are queried on the filesystem 14:14 tcohen we need to have the 'core one' and be able to define new paths (in koha-conf, by plugin hooks, etc) 14:15 ashimema not sure I follow.. 14:15 ashimema my brain isn't fully up to speed yet after a break 😛 14:19 tcohen hahaha 14:20 * ashimema is currently looking at API's for time out from his email queue 14:20 ashimema just about remembered what I was working on before I left 14:20 ashimema trusted self checkout on the OPAC via modals 14:20 tcohen Koha/Illrequest.pm:318 14:22 ashimema the way I see it what ILL backends do is just the same as Plugins.. only the structure predates it.. 14:22 ashimema so I reckon most issues are already resolved at the Plugins level.. we'd just need to migrate to using plugins more formally? 14:23 ashimema as for core vs non-core.. that's a little more than my brain has in i right this second.. haha 14:23 tcohen hahaha, it's friday here too 14:23 tcohen I was wondering how not to hurt your backends 14:24 ashimema I like some of the 'capabilities' stuff that ILL has.. it might be nice to add that to plugins support 14:24 ashimema i.e. I think we should look at both area's 14:29 reiveune bye 14:31 tcohen @later tell thd hi there! any news? 14:31 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 15:06 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 27497: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b5eb7bafe34073f88daea84a9a1609ca18aeeff> 15:06 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 30500: DBRev 22.06.00.032 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=45d9dd8c4220be8877b0b7aa96237a794762e2f2> 15:06 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 30500: (QA follow-up) Separate code execution streams for obviously independent... <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a814ff573f9491156c252fa3b2b6bcb6b82a461> 15:06 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 31264: Curbside pickups - Take CalendarFirstDayOfWeek into account <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f31925e9844a7e9abbda8396efd3f94ce1429ba1> 15:06 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 31272: Use TT plugins for pickup library and due date in opac-reserve.pl <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2353893c1acc45c99f5afbe0bde5dcd049d88660> 15:06 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 31249: Use cronlogaction on update_patrons_category.pl <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e4d2ef0f4691058cdb9fdff34a5a555a755f75a2> 15:06 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 30992: Improve translatability for 'for' <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=92f5e02a8c2ee7efaa9478015a860a5f62ee05aa> 15:06 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 30992: Improve translatability for Waiting at|On hold <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eedec9e929c641c9dcdb5c002f812ecf034433d4> 15:06 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 30500: Allow patrons to change in transit holds pickup locations <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6215f9a0e17444d3178b85cfcc1df33fd4644e8f> 15:06 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 30500: Add OPACInTransitHoldPickupLocationChange syspref <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ae7b9055ac9b1e3252f9e75813b7a8536382d64> 15:06 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 27497: Display Koha version in staff interface home page <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=47a2d79cb3921f57956807e310424f08502c8b35> 15:11 oleonard ashimema still around? 15:11 ashimema yup 15:11 ashimema anoth 40 mins 15:11 oleonard I'm curious about the choice to remove the toolbar from the new cataloging home page 15:11 ashimema haha 15:12 ashimema yeah.. me too 15:12 ashimema I'd love guidance there 15:12 ashimema or just input 15:12 ashimema it certainly needs a bit more iterating 15:13 oleonard I think the toolbar is still useful. I'd keep it and also have a "Basic editor" link under the "New" heading. I guess some people would find that redundant but redundancy doesn't bother me. 15:13 ashimema could you make that comment on the bug? 15:13 oleonard Sure 15:13 ashimema I'm happy to restore it 15:13 ashimema but would like the chaps already playing with it to see the opinion come in 🙂 15:14 ashimema it was a 'play time' project before I went on vacation really 15:15 oleonard I think it's a good idea 15:16 ashimema 🙂 15:16 ashimema glad you like the idea 15:16 ashimema out of interest.. what do you think of it compared to the circ homepage 15:17 ashimema i.e the centering vs full page width? 15:17 ashimema I'd love them to be consistent.. initially it wasn't deliberate to center mine.. It just kinda happened whilst I was playing 15:17 oleonard I'm pondering that. I think at the very least we can try to make the columns more even. 15:18 ashimema I know the new staff ui stuff touches the circ homepage too 15:18 ashimema not looked at it since I've been back.. but it sounds like that bug has progressed a fair bit 🙂 15:20 oleonard jajm has done a lot of follow-up work. I don't know how much additional testing there has been. 15:38 cait have a nice weekend all! 15:58 ashimema right.. I think that's enough for today.. have a great weekend 16:06 tcohen have a great weekend ashimema! 17:50 fridolin yellow 17:50 kidclamp jenkins? or favorite color? 17:55 tcohen favorite song? 17:59 oleonard Favorite mustard? 18:07 tcohen rangi[m]: around? 18:11 tcohen hi #koha, there's a problem with the git server liz and I are looking after 18:11 tcohen the last batch of pushes I was supposed to do is on pause, whlst the bugs themselves are marked as pushed 18:46 tcohen Joubu: about the calendar, I get a permission denied error when using my gmail account 18:48 fridolin I like mustard 18:48 tcohen but what about yellow 18:48 tcohen heh 18:48 fridolin yellow is a reference to soap serie Netflix "Modern Family" 18:49 fridolin the gay always picks up the phone with a word looking at "hello" 18:49 fridolin like "jellow" 18:52 tcohen heh 19:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29971: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=130e1c888a0758145de19ae704bd7b592ca0595f> 19:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 31289: Hide Article requests column in circulation rules when ArticleRequests... <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4b875fa936f1c971e734e71ec7727d780ba9a9af> 19:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29983: Show the column by default but hide if the feature is disabled <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b1e1f957ce75826e621bb936c0c8fcd8b62b1c9> 19:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29983: Format dates in templates using KohaDates (and display the time part) <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=69d491bd1d5f28eb348ba83ccdd69f1f82e9b8d8> 19:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29971: Add selenium tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dd3ba23f4ae8c04bdbe0dea806a3de6d039d0ef2> 19:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 30874: Remove category_type <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc0d561cf07d4004d0870f411866ea68187bd8cf> 19:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 30874: Simplify categories loop construction <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2330a84e093373aec174b2eb2839dd21ff2fe07> 19:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 30874: 2 more - need more investigation <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=71611bb146fb9154ebe7533bf857c9abfc2aac33> 19:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 30874: Reduce number of category fetches <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=18d7c7fdf9329e77dbd064576704217ad49a8beb> 19:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 30874: Replace categoryname <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=36cb2bff475c2e6ac1e118aeff4e7e5ae4874944> 19:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29983: Display the pretend claim column in overdue.tt <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e56c0dead6c51e89e4b6bbfeb75077fb5ceb27c6> 19:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29971: Remember selections across patron search pages <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a027cffcf40bbac85d84e92e8316ffa121da7fa6> 19:43 tcohen have a great weekend y'all 19:44 tcohen git is back-ish 19:44 wajasu thx 19:44 tcohen community infrastructure is giving us some warnings 19:44 tcohen we need to talk about that on the next dev meeting 19:54 ashimema calendar tcohen 19:55 ashimema I may have access for that 21:59 wajasu ok. i think i'm going live this weekend. should i enable plugins?