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20:02 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28840: Better texts in batch record modification/deletion <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2df4336fcc6b5032238473391276178530814f80>
20:02 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28371: Unit tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e98a8a686ccf112f7aeaa181c4e5e19ec750277>
20:02 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28371: Passpreviously fetched branches and itemtypes through and fetch all needed... <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e1d5d4b8fa416992abd072a0453d280ea34348e>
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20:02 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30191: Authority search result list in the OPAC should use 'record' instead of... <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=01e72549ff25238349d96546a93cc74d3429ce19>
20:02 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30461: Fix BatchUpdateAuthority <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=83da2adc7283408bb0e4a9c57b5f52ff3f4cee34>
20:02 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30405: Reduce font-size for address in patron search result <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1bd33c93f97489a8a23ddac5ebb252d653fc51a5>
20:02 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30534: Remove guarantor_id attribute from the patron object <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2bbc684f8a3d03aa7a47f670f557a378ab13f247>
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17:23 ashimema You too cait
17:23 cait have a nice evening ashimema
17:09 reiveune bye
16:55 ashimema right.. I should probably clock off.. family are waiting 😉
16:55 ashimema but that's enough to yield the right results in theory.
16:55 ashimema seems it's only in those templates
16:53 ashimema also koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/pos/register.tt
16:53 ashimema `register.outstanding_accountlines.total( payment_type => 'CASH') * -1`
16:52 ashimema there's some in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/pos/registers.tt
16:51 ashimema I think it is hardcoded somewhere.. I'm just trying to find where
16:49 cait but I filed a couple of issues with the cashout/registers ... some things there are still a little odd
16:48 cait unless it has cash hardcoded somewhere i am not sure how it would not :)
16:47 ashimema it shouldn't do..
16:47 cait not sure
16:47 cait that will be thrown off by non-cash transactions
16:47 ashimema yup
16:47 ashimema but you can still refined that by the transaction type.. and i believe that's what things like Cashup do already
16:47 cait on cashout you get told how much money you can take out of th eregister
16:46 ashimema yeah.. that's true
16:46 ashimema in the writeoff case the library never receives the money at all.. it's just saying they don't want the money any more.
16:46 cait but it doesn't change the amount of cash in the register
16:46 ashimema your still giving money to the library.. even if it's electronic
16:46 ashimema well you do..
16:46 ashimema we do a number of other things.. like writeoff.. where it wouldn't make any sense
16:45 cait yeah, you don't do that for debit or credit card
16:45 ashimema i.e. where you actually pass money from patron to library (or vica versa)
16:45 cait i mean the action of taking out money
16:45 ashimema the important thing is that registers only get assigned to actions that are a 'transfer for money'
16:45 cait the credit_card transactions will make it go wrong
16:45 cait yeah but if you do a cashout...
16:45 ashimema 🙂
16:45 cait I was already working on ti, you can leave it to me
16:45 ashimema cash, credit_card, debit_card
16:44 ashimema transaction_types
16:44 ashimema I'd say PQA just looking at the code.. if you happen to have it checked out then go for it 🙂
16:44 cait i wonder what other cash types would make sense tbh
16:44 ashimema functionally for cash management it's a hard requirement to be required for cash type transactions.. but this doesn't hurt that at all.. just enhances it 🙂
16:44 cait ok :)
16:43 ashimema I can't see any reason for not passing this patch so far, it looks good
16:43 ashimema right now it's only mandatory if it's cash
16:42 cait or only with cash and that is the difference?
16:42 cait I was mainly wondering: isn't the register already mandatory?
16:42 cait all good
16:40 ashimema was in a meeting
16:40 ashimema back now
16:40 ashimema sorry
16:40 ashimema hi
16:40 * cait waves at khall
16:34 * cait plays the jeopardy melody ;)
16:22 ashimema sure.. give me a min
16:22 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30563 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Add system preference to make the cash register field required when collecting a payment
16:22 cait ashimema: could you have a quick look at bug 30563 with me?
15:37 cait I am not really finding much on either/or
15:33 cait hm interesting
15:33 oleonard cait: I though I'd gotten an accessibility warning in the past with empty <option>s, but now I'm not seeing confirmation of that. I must have been mistaken.
15:32 cait hm would be good
15:31 * ashimema should check that
15:31 cait hm but I see your point
15:30 cait not sure hiding is necesary/done now
15:30 ashimema so parhaps it is it's own notice entirely
15:30 cait as they expire pretty soon, maybe it would be better as a separate feature
15:30 ashimema like the actual link needs hiding in the notices display too.. that could get more tricky
15:30 cait hm
15:30 cait ah ... separate or ont
15:29 ashimema the UX
15:29 ashimema it's the workflow I'm trying to consider
15:29 ashimema I can work through the technicals fairly easily I think
15:29 cait parsing the notice content when it is sent out?
15:28 cait where do you trigger the entry to the table?
15:28 cait I think the idea is good, but not ure how easy it is
15:28 ashimema but wouldn't mind some people's thoughts on the direction it should take
15:28 * ashimema intends to work on it this week in the hopes it goes through this cycle (to go with all the welcome email changes already pushed this cycle)
15:27 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30611 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , Add ability to send passwordreseturl in the Welcome email
15:27 ashimema anyone got any thoughts/comments regarding bug 30611 ?
15:27 cait faster to see what is missing with no text... but not sure if we have ever discussed that
15:27 cait i always feel like an empty option is a cleaner look
15:27 cait + <option value="">None selected</option>
15:27 cait - <option value=""></option>
15:27 cait oleonard-away: wondering about htis change:
15:11 triveni hi
15:08 * ashimema knocks kidclamp down the leaderboard: https://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-master/authors.html 🙂
15:04 cait back
14:28 oleonard I don't know if there are inefficiencies for targeting a higher element.
14:28 * ashimema tries
14:28 ashimema or can I go a bit lower.. assume I can't bind to the table itself.. as that would have the same problem maybe
14:28 oleonard ashimema: I think it only depends on whether there is anything else which is going to be updated in the DOM.
14:28 ashimema i.e your example there.. do we generally stick to body (as the highest level)
14:27 ashimema do we have a best practice on how high to bind?
14:27 oleonard Yeah, use a regular link if you want to. Just not for "destructive" actions. Delete should always use a form.
14:27 ashimema thanks oleonard
14:26 ashimema I see.
14:26 ashimema lol.. I see the same button in the boraccount page just has an href instead
14:26 oleonard ".action" being the selector for the actual button
14:26 oleonard You have to attach the event to a "higher" element in the markup. $("body").on("click", ".action", function(){
14:25 ashimema how do you get the second page of datatables results to work with the click events
14:25 ashimema if you have an action button in a datatable.. and the action has a class which has a click even bound..
14:24 ashimema I'm going mad.. sure I've fixed this before but can't for the life of me remember how or where
14:23 tcohen ashimema: agreed
14:16 khall_ cait yeah, now it's up to the RM :)
14:16 cait oh kidclamp++ (just PQA'd it)
14:15 cait Kyle just said he is waiting for 30584 to be able to release - Elasticsearch, if someone can take it
14:12 ashimema i.e. I'm really looking forward to full fat OAuth support with more than just credentials grant
14:12 ashimema I really want a distinction between 'API User' and 'Normal user who also has one or more API keys'
14:11 ashimema I find our API key stuff a bit tricky
14:11 ashimema unless something else expires them like a logout
14:11 ashimema so they should continue to work
14:10 tcohen and API keys is another matter
14:10 ashimema i.e if you already have a vaild OAuth token or valid cookie.. they have their own expire schedules
14:10 tcohen and then it felt like password is one way to interact with Koha, with its own expiration thing
14:10 ashimema my gut says it shouldn't
14:10 tcohen I was about to add tests for OAuth
14:10 ashimema hmm
14:10 ashimema good question
14:09 tcohen how password expiration (as opossed to 'account') should interact with OAuth or cookie based auth
14:09 ashimema go on.. I'm happy to take a look
14:09 tcohen I have one doubt
14:09 ashimema nice you beat me to it 🙂
14:09 ashimema I trust your QA tcohen..
14:08 ashimema excellent.. I had a weird feeling it added a temporary password or something.. glad to see that isn't the case on a quick glance
14:08 tcohen wanna check it too? I'm submitting
14:05 ashimema cool
14:05 tcohen ashimema: I'm about to submit a couple follow-up patches, minor ones
14:03 cait bbiab #koha
14:03 ashimema ooh.. did they rebase it tcohen
13:53 cait tcohen: are you working through that tree?
13:53 cait ok :)
13:52 tcohen so go ahead
13:52 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29924 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Introduce password expiration to patron categories
13:52 tcohen I'm working on bug 29924 right now
13:51 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23991 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Move SearchSuggestion to Koha::Suggestions
13:51 cait tcohen: do you have time for bug 23991? i could give it a go
13:51 tcohen XD even
13:51 tcohen :-D
13:50 cait welcome to my world of you guys always changing things! :)
13:45 tcohen and don't know about that LOL
13:45 * tcohen has been intermitently absent for two weeks only
13:45 tcohen haha
13:45 tcohen wtf is CookieManager?
13:44 cait yes - but not sure if that#s really the problem you are seeing with CPU and RAM
13:43 Satish_PP Can we configure thro only 2 ports ... i.e., 80 and 443 for all customers? ... Each customer will have different sub domain name
13:37 Satish_PP This is slowing down the server all the time
13:37 Satish_PP We have done that... and it is working also... But the WWW-DATA is taking complete CPU and RAM of the AWS server
13:34 cait well, only 2 - but you need to have differnet URLs for the different instances somehow
13:33 cait you don't need pultimple ports
13:33 Satish_PP and this is slowly the server
13:33 Satish_PP If we open multiple ports for each customer with sub domain name, we're facing CPU and Memory issues all the time
13:26 cait y
13:25 cait ... and ignore the typos please
13:23 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30288 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Signed Off , Provide links to OPACUserJS and OPACUserCSS in tools
13:23 cait marcelr: saw your QA contact rahter later - I am stealing bug 30288 from you I tihnk :)
13:22 cait library1.yourdomain.org:8080 ... library2.yourdomain.org:8080 etc.
13:21 tcohen that is done automatically when you use the koha-common package, and the koha-create script to generate each instance
13:21 cait you could use sub domains I think
13:20 Satish_PP We would like to install multiple Koha instances on the same server with only 2 ports opened 80 and 443 for all customers for STAFF and OPAC pages in AWS cloud Pls let us know how do we achieve this using virtual hosts or configuration changes in Ubuntu OS
13:20 Satish_PP I have a query as below
13:19 tcohen hola Satish_PP
13:19 Satish_PP Thanks for reply
13:19 oleonard Hi Satish_PP
13:19 Satish_PP Hello
13:15 marcelr looks good to me tcohen thx
13:12 tcohen y always forget to confirm :-D
13:12 marcelr no patches, no bugs !
13:12 marcelr no patches left
13:11 marcelr cool
13:11 tcohen I basically added bad codes and checked it explodes and with mine at least tells something meaningful
13:11 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30449 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Missing FK constraint on borrower_attribute_types
13:11 tcohen marcelr: I've added a possible way to do it on bug 30449, feel free to ditch it and provide your own's
13:00 severine_q so I can barelly imagine the QA !!
13:00 oleonard severine_q++
13:00 severine_q I can imagine, it took me 3 days to test it !!!
12:59 severine_q you're welcome !
12:59 ashimema my brain was getting addled 😜
12:59 severine_q weird...
12:59 ashimema thanks for verifying what it was meant to do though.. that's helpful
12:59 ashimema we have a regression which the unit test is catching
12:59 ashimema all I'm saying is right now in master.. it's not working the way it was at hackfest
12:58 ashimema I've resigned to having all these fields
12:58 ashimema I understand
12:58 severine_q but it's only useful if it works as expected... :/
12:58 severine_q we've got many patron, specifically with short asiastic name that can be use for both firstname or last name and it can be quite difficult to find the good borrower !
12:57 ashimema which is a regression
12:57 ashimema but yeah.. i do think they're not working as intended righ tnow
12:57 ashimema I think librarians will likely need training to use them 😉
12:56 severine_q I like all those search fields
12:54 ashimema you have a search box in the header at the top of the page.. then another on the left side of the page.. then another in the header of the datatable.. then another for each column of the table in the tables thead
12:54 oleonard :)
12:54 ashimema that page scares me..
12:54 oleonard But I also think the single-field search filter could be eliminated.
12:54 severine_q yes me too !!
12:53 oleonard If we kept the single-field search filter at the top of patron search results I would think it would be an additional filter on top of whatever search the sidebar filter did.
12:53 ashimema I must have missed it too.. though I could have sworn I tested it.
12:53 severine_q I agree
12:53 ashimema no worries
12:53 ashimema do you agree it should be usable and not disabled at all times
12:53 severine_q argh... I'm sorry I missed that...
12:53 ashimema so that's not a regression since hackfest.. but possibly one we missed during hackfest
12:53 huginn Bug 30063: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, RESOLVED FIXED, Make the main patron search use the /patrons REST API route
12:53 ashimema awesome severine_q
12:53 severine_q see https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30063#c23
12:52 severine_q https://snipboard.io/6EGyV8.jpg
12:52 severine_q I just found scenne shot I took during hackfest when testing 20063 ashimema, and it seems the option didn't work
12:52 ashimema but I'm getting them nuking some results they shouldn't be
12:52 ashimema they should all combine on top of each other as a filter.. aparently..
12:51 ashimema so.. search for something in the left search stuff.. then add a search on top using the datatables search box.. then finally.. filter more by searching using the 'Name' search box in the header bar of the table..
12:51 ashimema the other thing I would like to know is how you think searches should work in combination
12:50 ashimema don't think it was you oleonard
12:50 ashimema haha
12:50 ashimema I pointed this out really early on and I thought it was fixed
12:50 * oleonard feels like he has tempted fate to lay the blame on himself
12:50 ashimema the other issue I'm seeing is the way searches are combined.. again
12:50 ashimema but I can't see any changes since to have broken it since then
12:50 ashimema I help test and QA that whole patch series and I'm sure when testing it was working ☹ï¸
12:49 ashimema well.. that's what I meant
12:49 ashimema ah yes..
12:49 * ashimema still doesn't like having soooooo many search boxes on this page
12:49 oleonard The switch to the API for all patron searches.
12:49 ashimema not sure I follow oleonard
12:49 ashimema huh?
12:48 oleonard I assume the patron search updates somewhere, but that could be jumping to conclusions
12:48 ashimema nasty
12:48 ashimema that log is a data dumper output of the whole loan object by the looks severine_q
12:48 ashimema I'm wondering when that happened oleonard.. could have swarn at hackfest that wasn't the case
12:48 severine_q I confirm too ashimema
12:48 severine_q argh... oleonard is too quick for me !
12:47 oleonard ashimema: Can confirm.
12:47 severine_q I just found some weird action logs generated on an item for 'onloan' data, anyone who can explain it ? https://snipboard.io/mcnQEH.jpg
12:47 severine_q i have a question too :)
12:46 cait brb
12:44 severine_q ok, let me open my devbox and i'll check that
12:44 ashimema I thought you could.. but it appears not in my testing today.. it's always greyed out
12:43 ashimema a) can you ever use the 'clear filter' button on the datatable search box?
12:43 ashimema once your on members/member.pl..
12:43 severine_q sure
12:43 ashimema so after all this patron searching stuff...
12:43 severine_q how can I help you ?
12:43 ashimema do you happen to have a moment to talk patron search.. again..
12:42 severine_q yes ashimema !
12:42 ashimema severine_q: still around?
12:41 ashimema the test failure for search_patrons highlights some weird behavoir.. again.. on the main patron search to me.
12:41 marcelr but the inconsistency with fks between 20.11 and master is strange
12:41 tcohen heh
12:41 tcohen found something I should finish first
12:41 tcohen I leave those bugs for a couple hours
12:40 marcelr it might not be needed everywhere but if you see one, fail them
12:40 tcohen yeah
12:40 tcohen I feel like we could be reporting back to the user
12:39 marcelr yeah but i should test the result before i finish ?
12:39 marcelr refers to categories which is not yet there
12:39 tcohen the atomic update is run inside a transaction
12:38 marcelr the FK on 30449
12:38 marcelr i was thinking that i need to do an eval around some db stats
12:38 tcohen 30449
12:38 tcohen which one marcelr?
12:38 tcohen what do you think we should do with libraries with bad data?
12:38 marcelr tcohen any idea about the cause of that fk problem ^^
12:37 tcohen marcelr: about your db structure-sync bugs
12:37 * tcohen feels better
12:36 * cait hands tcohen his anti-grump cookie too
12:36 cait I hope it is... trying to get you all to play the game with me :)
12:35 marcelr this IF is very powerful
12:34 cait so... if we dealt with the 5 from Tue today... we could stay within a week's timeframe
12:33 ashimema cool
12:33 ashimema oh relaly
12:33 cait I can't remember when we last got this close to "today"
12:33 ashimema lol
12:33 oleonard Nice!
12:33 cait oleonard: oldest bug in QA queue!
12:33 tcohen cait: cookies are ready?
12:32 oleonard cait: No idea!
12:32 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30587 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Incorrect translations in some templates
12:32 domm ok, I was also wondering why I can't find any mention of this in the docs
12:32 tcohen can I get some attention on bug 30587
12:32 cait come on... one guess? :)
12:32 cait who can tell me what that is?
12:32 * cait will tell you something happy: Tue 18:59
12:30 ashimema lol
12:30 cait ashimema: eat your cookie!
12:30 ashimema I can't for the life of me work out why I can't seem to see it on https://koha-community.org/manual/22.05/en/html/index.html though ☹ï¸
12:29 ashimema that's the overlay rules documentation
12:28 ashimema domm: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/commits/master
12:28 marcelr is that grr from grrumpy ?
12:28 ashimema grr
12:28 ashimema the latest merges don't appear to be in the manual build!
12:28 ashimema hmm
12:27 marcelr while i assume that fk checking is off while running that script
12:27 marcelr but on 20.11 the installer doesnt like it
12:26 marcelr on master kohastructure change is ok while i add a FK for a table that is defined later
12:26 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30449 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Missing FK constraint on borrower_attribute_types
12:26 marcelr i am having a strange issue between 20.11 and master with bug 30449
12:25 marcelr great
12:25 tcohen :-D
12:25 tcohen I will test yours now
12:25 tcohen marcelr: ok, I saw those passing on my inbox and didn't get into depth, just felt like asking if some overlapping could be taking place
12:25 marcelr i think fridolin was catching up recent dbix omissions tcohen ?
12:24 ashimema just trying to find a link
12:24 ashimema the docs merge went in a few days ago
12:24 marcelr he pushed two already so he should know?
12:24 tcohen just asking if you both communicated about it
12:24 tcohen that fridolin has been working on those situations, not sure how deep
12:23 marcelr tcohen: what do you mean?
12:23 domm cait: thx!
12:23 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14957 new feature, P5 - low, ---, glasklas, RESOLVED FIXED, Write protecting MARC fields based on source of import
12:23 cait domm: bug 14957 and https://gitlab.com/gnucifer/koha-manual/-/commit/593c5da008dbc4b074cac9dee167cce9a6dfc250#c5e2c75dc923f21c5b95185b2f350df00fec661f
12:22 tcohen marcelr: have you synced with fridolin about those bugs that fix install vs. upgrade?
12:22 cait i am not sure if it's gone into the manual yet, but they did a somewhat nice writeup as part of the bug, let me find it
12:21 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30475 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Convert tools pages tabs to Bootstrap (part 2)
12:21 cait I am on bug 30475 now
12:21 domm cait: ok, where's that documented?
12:20 cait tcohen++ thx!
12:20 tcohen <.<
12:20 marcelr oleonard: i am close to guessing your password :)
12:18 cait Administration > Record overlay rules
12:18 cait domm: but it's a 21.11 feature
12:17 tuxayo :)
12:17 tuxayo hi #koha :
12:17 cait not with XSLT, but I think you can do that with the new rules
12:16 domm When I drop fields via XLST and use "Replace record via SRU", all the old data is gone - ok, "replace" is strong hint that this is to be expected :-)
12:15 domm When using SRU to import new data, I can use XLST to filter out some fields/subfields. Is it possible (and if so, how) to use SRU to enhance existing data, and mark some fields/subfields as to be never overwritten by an SRU import/update?
12:07 oleonard jaffar: https://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/
12:05 jaffar i want name and address of companies who are dealing with koha
12:02 oleonard How far in the future to find a self who is smart enough to check past self from 5 months ago?
12:01 cait who would be good to check your past self's work in this case?
11:55 oleonard Exactly
11:55 ashimema I'm sure future self would agree current self is untrustworthy too 😛
11:54 ashimema yeah.. I struggle to trust past selves..
11:54 ashimema hehe
11:54 * oleonard doesn't trust his past self at all
11:53 * cait pots potatoes on, brb
11:53 cait heh
11:52 * ashimema decided to just trust his past self
11:52 cait maybe we need to move it back to NSO then :(
11:52 ashimema ☹ï¸
11:52 ashimema it's so long since I looked at it I have no idea if it's right any more
11:50 cait and if yo ufeel inclined... just pqa it
11:49 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10517 normal, P5 - low, ---, rudolfbyker, Signed Off , koha-restore fails to create mysqluser@mysql_hostname so zebra update fails
11:49 cait ashimema: add SO line to bug 10517 plz
11:41 ashimema indeed.. we had different approaches to it.. it changed a little
11:41 ashimema liked having really up to date pre-release notes.. It helped me dig in and try to do release note improvements throughout the cycle instead of it all happening at the last minute
11:41 tcohen Joubu
11:40 ashimema I used to be able to generate those.. but things have changed a bit since I was RM
11:40 ashimema humm..
11:40 ashimema well.. as far as I can tell, in master.. patron attribute searching is hard coded to being turned on
11:39 cait on another note, ... I'd love some pre-release notes (https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-release-notes/-/tree/master), but not sure who to ask
11:39 cait can you add patron attributes there? haven't tested but I seem to remember it blocked some
11:38 cait sounds reasonable
11:37 oleonard Probably only that no one got around to it.
11:37 ashimema also.. is there a reason the `DefaultPatronSearchFields` pref doesn't have such a modal select option?
11:27 ashimema funny.. I thought I'd already fixed that in this patchset.. but it seems not
11:27 ashimema 🙂
11:25 ashimema thanks
11:25 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29695 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, RESOLVED FIXED, Centralize columns' descriptions
11:25 cait bug 29695
11:24 cait but i haven't looked into it if that might have touched things
11:24 cait hm yeah there as a patch about centralizing column names
11:24 ashimema did they get removed recently.. I have a vague memory
11:24 ashimema I thought it was.. but I can't find one now
11:23 cait but i might be wrong :)
11:23 cait i think it's a .yml
11:22 ashimema liek for 'BorrowerUnwantedField'
11:22 ashimema can someone remind me where the data for the system preferences that have a popup of database fields to select from comes from?
11:19 cait ;)
11:17 * tcohen hasn't gone through email yet
11:17 tcohen will check
11:17 tcohen alright!
11:17 cait tcohen: you can leave oleonard's to me.... but i have some nice ones in today's QA mail that are out of my depth
11:17 ashimema lol
11:17 cait me too ... eeew
11:16 oleonard I am covered in bugs
11:16 * tcohen searches for oleonard's bugs
11:14 oleonard Hi tcohen
11:13 tcohen hola #koha!
10:58 cait ... and please let me know if my QA comments don't make sense (feeling bad about all the fails)
10:57 cait yes, lots of good stuff
10:55 ashimema task.. even
10:55 ashimema we really need to keep working through moving things to simple centralised handling.. this patron-title stuff and patron search/autocomplete stuff is a big taks
10:55 ashimema it's great to see some of this stuff happening
10:54 ashimema great work so far oleonard
10:54 cait point me to anything you need moving please
10:54 oleonard Patrons, circ, MARC and authority editors.
10:54 * ashimema went and QA'd a whole bunch of those on Friday 🙂
10:54 cait ah the usual 20%
10:54 oleonard Only the hard ones left :)
10:54 cait i kind of lost track
10:53 cait oleonard: do you still have a lot of tabs patches to do?
10:52 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30290 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Passed QA , Article requests: Add TOC information to AR notices
10:52 cait with bug 30290 being an exception
10:52 cait it feels like I am on a failing spree :(
10:51 marcelr cait++ # 30290
10:47 ashimema the patron-title.inc include is weird
10:43 ashimema hehe
10:43 cait it's prevention
10:42 ashimema I should probably have another go at the test suit as Joubu is out for a couple of days
10:40 ashimema I'm not too grumpy today am I?
10:40 ashimema lol
10:39 * cait hands ashimema coffee for tiredness and a cookie for grumpiness
10:39 * ashimema is sleepy today
10:39 cait come all and help me make noise on bugzilla :)
10:39 oleonard cait++ # too
10:34 cait hi oleonard and oleonard++ :)
10:24 oleonard Hi all
10:04 ashimema 🙂
10:04 cait ashimema: thx
09:54 cait yes!
09:54 ashimema do you mean the skip to main content stuff?
09:54 ashimema erm.. pass
09:53 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30136 new feature, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Signed Off , Add back to top button when scrolling
09:53 cait ashimema: looking at bug 30136 - wondering: wasn't there another feature to make a button show up ...
09:51 cait back
09:36 magnuse no, but maybe still something related to the problems that was meant to fix
09:36 cait did it start happen after a recent update so we could maybe limit it to some suspicious change?
09:36 cait magnuse: so definitely not that hen :(
09:35 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22417 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, RESOLVED FIXED, Add a task queue
09:35 magnuse cait: bug 22417, 20.11.00
09:34 cait bbiab
09:29 cait and ages is realtive dealing with a 22 year old project :)
09:29 cait maybe we need to check new code stricter for using them?
09:29 cait i know it's in 20.11
09:29 ashimema they've been around for ages and and ages
09:29 cait when was rabbitmq introduced?
09:29 ashimema mm
09:28 cait i think it was Joubu who introduced them - not super recent, but somewhaat
09:28 cait ashimema: because the includes were added later in the game?
09:27 magnuse yeah, that looks ok
09:27 marcelr magnuse: check koha-conf, permissions, etc ?
09:26 magnuse other tools are ok. can anyone think of a common thing between them?
09:26 magnuse catalogue tools that show the problem: Batch item deletion, Batch item modification, Batch record modification, Export data, Stage MARC records for import, Staged MARC record management, Upload local cover image
09:24 magnuse ashimema: organic growth over a long time?
09:24 marcelr historical ballast ?
09:17 ashimema it's a nightmakre
09:17 ashimema does anyone know why we have such a mix of manually adding patron names (with various order and various amounts of detail and links) and using the includes to do it more consistently?
09:17 nlegrand o/ magnuse, cait
09:07 cait magnuse: huh.
09:05 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30603 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Sort 1 and Sort 2 on patron form are on longer free text when AV categories are empty
09:05 cait does someoene have an idea which change caused bug 30603 and could link it?
09:05 magnuse cait: it's version 20.05.15
09:04 ashimema it's a nightmare to catch them all
09:04 ashimema grr.. there are soooooo many darn copy/pastes with tiny changes of the patron autocomplete code ☹ï¸
09:04 cait i was thinking maybe that's all those that are using background jobs now
09:04 magnuse same error for several of the "catalogue" tools
09:01 cait hi nlegrand
09:01 cait maybe something to do with the messaging/queuing?
09:00 cait magnuse: sorry, pass
09:00 magnuse trying to access <intranet>/cgi-bin/koha/tools/batchMod.pl?del=1, i get this error: "Error reading file /etc/koha/sites/koha01/koha-conf.xml. Try running this again as the koha instance user (or use the koha-shell command in debian)" like i was running it on the command line. anyone seen that before?
09:00 magnuse kia ora nlegrand
09:00 nlegrand hey
08:58 Himali ok but main issue is
08:57 cait it's nothing to do with holds as such, although they sound really similar
08:57 cait it's another word for "what the library has"
08:57 cait holding just means item
08:57 Himali holding
08:57 cait hold or holding?
08:56 Himali maybe because the hold was cancelled ----> book shows available but when clicked on book it shows 1 holding
08:56 cait if you go to the patron account in staff - is there a tab holds history?
08:56 Himali yes
08:55 cait with hold list, you mean the list of holds in the patron account?
08:55 cait maybe because the hold was cancelled
08:55 Himali but no luck this time
08:55 Himali previousl same issue, reindexing solved issue
08:55 cait that sounds a little odd
08:54 cait hi Himali
08:54 wahanui i already had it that way, Himali.
08:54 Himali I have an issue related to Koha, one of the item is placed on hold b the patron. He received mail for same but book doesnot show in his hold list Also when same item is searched in catalogue it shows available, but when opened it shows as hold. tried reindexing but no luck. Please help.
08:54 Himali hi
08:51 cait aaah there is life on IRC after all :)
08:49 marcelr o/
08:49 ashimema hi
08:49 cait noone here?
08:48 cait hi #koha
08:12 ashimema Morning
08:07 severine_q Happy monday Koha !! 🤗
07:24 magnuse_ \o/
06:45 Himali I have an issue related to Koha, one of the item is placed on hold b the patron. He received mail for same but book doesnot show in his hold list Also when same item is searched in catalogue it shows available, but when opened it shows as hold. tried reindexing but no luck. Please help.
06:44 Himali Hello
06:30 wahanui que tal, alex_
06:30 alex_ Bonjour
06:27 marcelr hi #koha
06:04 reiveune hello