Time  Nick         Message
22:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11_My8 build #797: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 2 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11_My8/797/
22:06 tuxayo       oleonard: need signoff, there were changes after the issues were found and the patch is waiting for me or someone else to retest the plan and the previous issues.
21:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11_MDB_Latest build #865: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11_MDB_Latest/865/
21:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D12 build #127: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D12/127/
21:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11_My8 build #796: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11_My8/796/
21:20 oleonard     So "Failed QA?"
21:20 tuxayo       oleonard: I signed it off an later problems were found.
21:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U22 build #19: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U22/19/
21:15 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25408 normal, P5 - low, ---, arthur.suzuki, Signed Off , CanBookBeReserved & CanItemBeReserved should check "opacitemholds" policy
21:15 oleonard     tuxayo: I didn't test Bug 25408, I just saw the signoff lines and assumed it should be marked as such
21:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_Sid build #13: STILL UNSTABLE in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_Sid/13/
21:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U21 build #147: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U21/147/
20:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U_Stable build #438: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U_Stable/438/
20:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11_MDB_Latest build #864: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11_MDB_Latest/864/
20:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1984: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1984/
20:16 alohabot     🎁 🦄 Koha 'master' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo  🍎🍤🍫
20:13 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #599: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/599/
19:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #367: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/367/
19:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1928: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1928/
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 26370: Add ability to disable demagnetizing items via SIP2 for arbitrary patron... <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1cead727b4fe00d1982ae16689606fcbf3569348>
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 29005: Add option to send welcome email from patron imports <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6e2c6fb6002538204a9f1f39d07a2257f74fef4>
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 29420: HTTP status code incorrect when calling error pages directly under Plack... <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=437e5844077cfd7d315f6ef2f6657d5da619925d>
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 29005: Add support for the command line script <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1bf5adf83714e03dc635a9317726b5f77a60fea5>
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 29005: Unit tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8eb24ccf102779d01671f09988a02065ac117d0d>
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 30237: Reference new WELCOME notice <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a4da023bae60098aa518203b0d79a2d8420e215d>
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 30237: Replace ACCDETAILS notice with WELCOME notice <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2609adc1bd13a3e4a39da1d639c55b2c1bffa4ac>
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 30237: Replace AutoEmailOpacUser with AutoEmailNewUser <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3d5e974f8fe5a72abc0cb59f6b954a431f9541f9>
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 9097: Add option to manually send welcome email <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=30f598cebef0f37b58b2daf592a608ff717391d0>
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 26370: (QA follow-up) Add new option to templates <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7170874a9b7b3165461daa9d81fcfaf70bcc6485>
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 26370: (QA follow-up) Rename option never_demagnitize to inhouse_patron_categories <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=017bce3d7708c86bbf57057345eb60164926398c>
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 30237: (follow-up) Update Notice <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=71b1caccb96ccbbf1c1df69ccf94562295077771>
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 30237: (follow-up) Add french sample notice <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=830f43d6c2f25b6acd108b4ce1757f7f42f68fab>
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 30237: Add a note about WELCOME notice to system preference <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=40b9d9e668bfc77ddcd7d022f949eb2957ada083>
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 30237: (follow-up) Make LibraryName conditional <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ab1dcef952b8cb0501b00096e13961dcb4eee7f>
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 30544: Add font awesome version to licenses page <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=833c9efee0c0e01a0223318b578efa77272ed958>
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 30237: (QA follow-up) Spelling <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=33fb5d70a5da4470522eda00c685de11150a7671>
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 27631: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=53d785c7e6bfda50761b632f9647193f46d6b7df>
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 27631: (RM follow-up) Fix missing h1 to div <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=05ba079814facb569feb9327992a1dc441753754>
19:09 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 30237: DBRev 21.12.00.034 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3fdcc4cde3c34875e95ff069a8e61aae33e293d2>
18:22 tuxayo       You switched it to Signed Off. But only my SO line is added. And I tested the patch a long time ago before changes that invalided it.
18:21 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25408 normal, P5 - low, ---, arthur.suzuki, Signed Off , CanBookBeReserved & CanItemBeReserved should check "opacitemholds" policy
18:21 tuxayo       oleonard: did you test bug 25408 ?
18:05 tuxayo       Cool that there is interest in the history page ^^
17:46 huginn       ashimema: The operation succeeded.
17:46 ashimema     @later tell fridolin follow-up on bug 29602 ready to fix one of the failing unit tests
17:40 ashimema     awesome, thanks wizzyrea
17:37 wizzyrea     ashimema: it's up to 2021 now
16:54 ashimema     thanks wizzyrea
16:53 ashimema     prospects like to look at that page to see activity.. I tell them to look at the about page on our demo.. but it's nice to have it proper public too 🙂
16:53 wizzyrea     the next bit will :)
16:53 wizzyrea     this bit won't fix it but
16:53 ashimema     that'll keep my boss happy..
16:53 ashimema     thanks
16:53 ashimema     😄
16:53 wizzyrea     yep it's doing a big fetch heh
16:52 wizzyrea     it's at least thinking about it now
16:51 wizzyrea     that's it
16:51 ashimema     https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha
16:51 ashimema     it should still be public accessible.. maybe the link changed slightly though.. I can't remember
16:51 ashimema     hmm..
16:50 wizzyrea     seems so
16:50 wizzyrea     git.koha-community.org[0: 3.23.183.225]: errno=Connection refused
16:50 wizzyrea     fatal: unable to connect to git.koha-community.org:
16:48 ashimema     aha.. cool
16:48 wizzyrea     wonder if that broke when the git repo moved
16:48 wizzyrea     there used to be a job that pulled from git
16:45 ashimema     wizzyrea.. any idea how we update the history page on koha-community.org?
16:34 oleonard     But I don't know what those circumstances are.
16:34 oleonard     As far as I can tell there are some circumstances under which a "serial collection" tab appears on the OPAC bibliographic detail page
16:33 oleonard     I don't understand serial collections
16:26 tuxayo       IIUC you work at ByWater now, on which continent are you though?
16:26 tuxayo       wizzyrea: hi :)
16:24 oleonard     Hi wizzyrea!
16:23 * wizzyrea   looks around... hi
16:20 tuxayo       nikkom: still there? Meeting is over :)
16:15 nugged       Cheering 🤗
16:14 ashimema     I didn't know before you could drag and drop the subfield tags in the tabs
16:14 ashimema     wow.. mind blown
16:10 ashimema     lukeg even
16:10 ashimema     luceg and tcohen got me started 😉
16:09 oleonard     thanks for all the testing
16:09 oleonard     ashimema++
16:06 liliputech   bonne soirée :)
16:06 ashimema     🙂
16:06 fridolin     ashimema: oki dok
16:06 liliputech   +tuxayo for chairing of course
16:06 liliputech   thanks for chatting+decision making everyone :)
16:05 fridolin     tuxayo: +++
16:05 ashimema     hehe
16:05 oleonard     Chairing!
16:05 ashimema     tuxayo++
16:05 oleonard     Charring?
16:05 oleonard     Thanks for charing
16:05 oleonard     tuxayo++
16:05 tuxayo       thanks all for you attendance, that was a long one ^^
16:05 lukeg        yes! ashimema++
16:05 huginn       Log:            https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/development_irc_meeting_20_april_2022.2022-04-20-14.04.log.html
16:05 huginn       Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/development_irc_meeting_20_april_2022.2022-04-20-14.04.txt
16:05 huginn       Minutes:        https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/development_irc_meeting_20_april_2022.2022-04-20-14.04.html
16:05 huginn       Meeting ended Wed Apr 20 16:05:09 2022 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
16:05 tuxayo       #endmeeting
16:04 ashimema     i.e. this tree: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=29226
16:04 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30466 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Convert serials pages tabs to Bootstrap
16:04 ashimema     fridolin, when you come to work through the jQuery UI tree.. push bug 30466 fairly early.. some of them are not direct depends on it.. but it does make them all look better 😉
16:04 tuxayo       #info Next meeting: 11 May 2022, 21 UTC
16:04 tuxayo       Thanks for the check. I have a hard time getting my mind right about these time calculation
16:04 nugged       (DST/noDST because, winter time it will be 3 hours from UTC for us now we have two)
16:03 nugged       tuxayo: google shows 23 it's for EET / Finland (us)
16:03 tuxayo       It should still be Wednesday I think. But not for NZ, no issues I think
16:02 liliputech   ouche. ok
16:02 tuxayo       23
16:02 liliputech   22h for french is that right?
16:02 tuxayo       thanks for the double check
16:02 fridolin     11am for me
16:02 tuxayo       11 May 2022, 21 UTC
16:01 tuxayo       I though it was about french mainland time but it 21 UTC
16:01 tuxayo       21 UTC
16:01 tuxayo       Wait
16:00 tuxayo       This time we make it 9:00 am for NZ
16:00 tuxayo       21 actually
16:00 fridolin     https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_6_April_2022
15:59 liliputech   ok for me as well
15:59 tuxayo       It would be the 11th due to general meeting
15:59 fridolin     was it 22:00 UTC ?
15:58 tuxayo       Last time it was great to have some people from NZ and fridolin can't every time come in the middle of night.
15:58 fridolin     good for me
15:57 tuxayo       (can't do Australia, current DST it can't reach South America east)
15:56 tuxayo       Shall we aim for NZ, Tahiti and Americas for next meeting?
15:56 tuxayo       #topic Set time of next meeting
15:56 ashimema     I like all nugged suggestions
15:55 ashimema     moving on
15:55 ashimema     anyhow
15:55 ashimema     kiwiirc is indeed pretty and modern looking.. that would be a nice replacement for our web chat
15:55 nugged       +1
15:54 tuxayo       *on
15:54 tuxayo       So let that sink for some time and move one?
15:54 nugged       rmchat, thanks, sorry. ok
15:54 tuxayo       "rmchat" actually
15:54 tuxayo       > rmaint channel we have
15:54 tuxayo       nugged: okay let's got with this :)
15:53 tuxayo       If people want to use Telegram we could let them have a bridge. We could still have a modern libre/open source choose promoted first on the website. Like a better IRC webchat and Element/Matrix.
15:51 nugged       - I'll bring telegram bridge like we did for Perl community (YAPC conferences) so let's see this too + we bring more other tools (matrix, etc) - so let's arise this quesiton one again in a month or around
15:51 nugged       - let us our feeling about more channels like "koha-userhelp" ripe for some time
15:51 nugged       - rmaint channel we have, I'll call frido and joubu and others to join or others calls me, when needed and time comes
15:51 nugged       - bots to be separated.
15:51 nugged       my proposal:
15:51 thd          People are always expecting whatever is most familiar and not whatever is most helpful or good for freedom.
15:50 ashimema     indeed
15:50 fridolin     and opensource i mean
15:50 fridolin     keep it simple, and free
15:50 ashimema     interesting
15:49 tuxayo       The one used by libera.chat is great.
15:49 tuxayo       > the webchat feels very dated too
15:49 nugged       let me anyway bring POC of this as I said on hackathon, so we will see, I just will ask 1 month (around) please, /me drowning :) but badly want to make that
15:49 nugged       > telegram bridging will help with that
15:49 liliputech   let's setup a bbs like in the goldays (good old days?)
15:48 tuxayo       Ah yes
15:48 nugged       oleonard: sometimes name of channel "allows" people to be more brave when they noobs, + same topic of channel with some hint "don't afraid ask dumb, we won't freak" and also previous history they will see
15:48 liliputech   signal?++
15:48 ashimema     telegram bridging will help with that
15:48 ashimema     I think people are just expecting slack, whatsapp, disourse or whatever
15:48 oleonard     ashimema: 👍🏻
15:47 ashimema     the webchat feels very dated too
15:47 ashimema     pass
15:47 * ashimema   hopes oleonard likes that he just filled his inbox
15:47 tuxayo       ashimema: complains even with the webchat?
15:47 ashimema     I think that might best be done once we've made it easier for the general public to use.. I still hear complaints about irc even though I personally think it works ok
15:46 nugged       oleonard: indeed, but if you come to read history and be just librarian you'll be scared. But yes, we can let this opinion ripe for a moments later,
15:46 nugged       > This channel is quiet 95% of the time these days
15:46 ashimema     that's a nice idea
15:46 nugged       the idea to especially make comfortable place for humans and human quesitons about usage, to be more brave asking "noob" questions, alike. And have web interface promoted for that channel as well other easy-to-join bridges
15:45 oleonard     This channel is quiet 95% of the time these days
15:45 liliputech   it still exist :)
15:45 nugged       ... and to have +1 more channel for less-techy talks to especially attract librarians to come for help and see less noise from deep tech talks from joubu and ashimema (and others, glob(*) you are) - some chan like #koha-userhelp
15:44 ashimema     that's the one
15:44 tuxayo       #_oftc_#rmchat:matrix.org
15:44 ashimema     maybe it went bye bye
15:44 tuxayo       Ah yes
15:44 ashimema     we used to
15:44 ashimema     we have a rmains channel I think already
15:44 tuxayo       (You, Frido, Jonathan)
15:44 tuxayo       Ah yes, because this cycle you will be 3 people to coordinate so you need a channel
15:43 nugged       ... also discussion was to have separate more-techy channel for current release manager team, i.e. all who hels and communicates with release menager to have one channel and all discussion about quick tests and so on (as well from my libraries piloting pre-release master build)
15:43 liliputech   Haha ^^
15:42 tuxayo       Any other dev discussion?
15:42 nugged       .. and we speaking about bots so daftpunk just in ontopic here right :)
15:42 tuxayo       Ok so OFTC unless we find a concrete reason.
15:42 liliputech   if u like daft, try yellow magic orchestra, japanese precursor
15:42 liliputech   ^^
15:42 nugged       daft
15:42 liliputech   nugged: harder better faster stronger ;)
15:41 ashimema     in case oftc ever dissapears
15:41 nugged       yes, some talks (not my origin) was that to use another server I don't get clear point why (fresher, beter, faster?)
15:41 tuxayo       good
15:41 ashimema     we actually have a #koha channel reserved in libera.chat
15:41 tuxayo       #agreed Move the bots output mentioned in the agenda to #koha-bots
15:41 liliputech   that would be easier to have both chats on the same server
15:41 tuxayo       cc nugged
15:40 tuxayo       But I didn't get it
15:40 tuxayo       At the hackfest it was mentioned to do that in Libera.chat
15:40 ashimema     yeah, I reckon so
15:40 tuxayo       Also OFTC right?
15:39 huginn       koha-bots (6): liliputech, oleonard, ashimema, fridolin, nugged, thd
15:39 huginn       Voted on "Which channel name?" Results are
15:39 tuxayo       #endvote
15:39 liliputech   oleonard: you silly >< that will be hard to join ;)
15:39 tuxayo       nugged: «so any hint about convestions or I missed the thread/reply?» I launched the vote to have this question sorted out ^^
15:38 oleonard     koha-🤖?
15:38 nugged       #vote koha-bots
15:38 nugged       how can I now say koha_bots? :)
15:38 thd          #vote koha-bots
15:38 fridolin     #vote koha-bots
15:38 ashimema     #vote koha-bots
15:38 oleonard     #vote koha-bots
15:38 liliputech   #vote koha-bots
15:38 huginn       Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
15:38 huginn       Begin voting on: Which channel name? Valid vote options are koha_bots, koha-bots, something_else.
15:38 tuxayo       #startvote Which channel name? koha_bots, koha-bots, something_else
15:38 nugged       <tuxayo> (Hyphen or underscore? I don't know the IRC conventions) - so any hint about convestions or I missed the thread/reply?
15:38 huginn       koha-bots (2): ashimema, liliputech
15:38 huginn       Voted on "Which channel name?" Results are
15:38 tuxayo       #endvote
15:38 huginn       Already voting on 'Which channel name'
15:38 tuxayo       #startvote Which channel name? koha_bots, koha-bots, something_else
15:38 ashimema     #vote koha-bots
15:37 tuxayo       #endvote
15:37 liliputech   #vote koha-bots
15:37 huginn       Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
15:37 huginn       Begin voting on: Which channel name? Valid vote options are koha_bots, koha-bots, something, else.
15:37 tuxayo       #startvote Which channel name? koha_bots, koha-bots, something else
15:36 liliputech   +1
15:36 fridolin     tea then
15:36 tuxayo       lol
15:36 wahanui      fridolin: no idea
15:36 fridolin     wahanui: coffee please
15:36 thd          wahanui++
15:36 tuxayo       +1
15:35 nugged       yes, helper bots is ok, for people communications, but all build messages, all whatever-related - to the separate channel
15:35 tuxayo       But need to find a way for huginn to not output each new master commit here
15:35 ashimema     good
15:35 ashimema     yes
15:35 wahanui      i already had it that way, huginn.
15:35 huginn       oleonard: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
15:35 oleonard     huginn and wahanui get special ID cards that let them into the restricted area
15:35 tuxayo       ashimema: yes we would keep huginn and wahanui
15:35 nugged       <liliputech> idea was to clean up our atuomatons posting here messing with our talks into separate channel
15:35 ashimema     i hope we're not going to lose that
15:34 ashimema     I'd miss the bz links for example
15:34 tuxayo       koha bots seems to have the preference. Hyphen or underscore? I don't know the IRC conventions.
15:34 ashimema     I like some bots
15:34 ashimema     hmm
15:34 ashimema     agreed
15:34 nugged       *move to "koha_bots", I mean
15:34 liliputech   nop >< bots are no AI :) telegram or mattermost are easy to make with matterbridge
15:33 nugged       tuxayo: first and main goal was to remove any automated messages form our discussion channel, "koha_bots", or alike
15:33 tuxayo       domm: #koha-irc:matrix.org
15:33 tuxayo       ashimema: «give instructions on how to use matrix/element» Indeed, in addition to the web IRC chat we could add that and the future Telegram bridge that nugged mentioned.
15:33 oleonard     +1 for koha-bots
15:33 fridolin     bots talking to bots
15:32 fridolin     koha-AI ^^
15:32 ashimema     +1
15:32 liliputech   koha-bots++
15:32 fridolin     i'm ok with that
15:32 liliputech   people willing to check the bots message would go there, and dev talks + actual humans would sstay here
15:32 fridolin     koha-bots sounds good
15:32 tuxayo       *your
15:32 tuxayo       nugged: what was you preference again?
15:31 domm         there is a matrix channel?
15:31 liliputech   koha-bots is nice.
15:31 liliputech   i find it clear. that makes not too much names to recall
15:31 tuxayo       Actual dev talk will still be here
15:31 fridolin     too obvious maybe
15:31 tuxayo       Yes
15:31 oleonard     Confusing
15:30 fridolin     like ML
15:30 fridolin     tuxayo: koha-dev ?
15:30 tuxayo       Any idea how to name the new channel? Ideas are #koha-logs/#koha-technical/#koha-bots
15:29 tuxayo       Then are there more bot output to move that the above 3?
15:29 tuxayo       So no issues with that?
15:29 ashimema     we should also update the irc page on koha-community to give instructions on how to use matrix/element as you suggested at hackfest tuxayo
15:29 * liliputech should join more often
15:29 liliputech   more humans / less bots
15:29 tuxayo       - alohabot: package builds
15:29 tuxayo       - huginn (keep part of output in main channel because they have multiple roles): new commits pushed to main/master branch
15:29 tuxayo       - koha-jenkins: continuous integration failures or success
15:28 * ashimema   should join the other channel
15:28 ashimema     good plan
15:28 tcohen       fridolin++
15:28 tcohen       tuxayo++
15:28 tuxayo       « Make the IRC less noisy and more newcomer friendly my moving some bots outputs to another channel (#koha-logs/#koha-technical/#koha-bots) »
15:28 tcohen       koha++
15:28 tcohen       gotta feed the kids... bbl
15:28 tuxayo       Next topic
15:27 tuxayo       #action tuxayo ask confirmation from koha-devel about using Vue3 for the new ERM module.
15:27 liliputech   I think my favourite was the pepporter one :)
15:25 tuxayo       Can anyone also reach koha-devel about this?
15:25 nugged       #info Andrew Nugged, National Library of Finland, HELSINKI
15:25 nugged       (oh, I forgot to register myself :P ):
15:25 huginn       Abstain (3): tuxayo, jajm, lukeg
15:25 huginn       Yes (10): liliputech, oleonard, ashimema, khall_, kidclamp, fridolin, tcohen, nugged, thd, AndrewFH
15:25 huginn       Voted on "Shall Vue3 be used for the new ERM module?" Results are
15:25 tuxayo       #endvote
15:24 khall_       #vote Yes
15:24 oleonard     I don't think any stragglers will overwhelm the yes votes ;)
15:23 fridolin     very nice sour beer
15:23 tuxayo       letting 1min in case someone else comes up.
15:23 tcohen       specially the sour, tuxayo
15:23 fridolin     ^^
15:23 liliputech   indeed
15:23 tuxayo       And the result was successful at the hackfest.
15:23 tuxayo       > Joubu is starting to brew again
15:22 kidclamp     #vote Yes
15:22 lukeg        #vote Abstain
15:22 AndrewFH     #vote Yes
15:22 wahanui      well, Joubu is starting to brew again
15:22 tcohen       Joubu?
15:22 wahanui      lukeg is around now :)
15:22 tuxayo       lukeg?
15:22 tcohen       kidclamp:
15:22 tuxayo       AndrewFH?
15:21 fridolin     #vote Yes
15:21 tuxayo       lol
15:21 wahanui      marcelr is just amazed that next is faster than count
15:21 tuxayo       marcelr?
15:21 tcohen       khall_: it is being voted if we use Vue3 for the ERM module in Koha
15:21 tuxayo       fridolin: ?
15:20 ashimema     🙂
15:20 tuxayo       But I'm confident it will okay :)
15:20 tuxayo       I trust our JS gurus. I didn't review the code and done research so I can't say I can choose.
15:20 tuxayo       #vote Abstain
15:20 jajm         #vote Abstain
15:19 nugged       #vote Yes
15:19 tcohen       #vote Yes
15:19 ashimema     #vote Yes
15:19 thd          #vote Yes
15:19 liliputech   #vote Yes
15:19 oleonard     #vote Yes
15:18 huginn       Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
15:18 huginn       Begin voting on: Shall Vue3 be used for the new ERM module? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain, .
15:18 tuxayo       #startvote Shall Vue3 be used for the new ERM module? Yes, No, Abstain.
15:18 tcohen       thd: it is not
15:17 thd          I assume that replacing every use of jQuery with vue.js is not intended at least not at this time.
15:17 liliputech   +1 for the POC, but when it comes to move Koha as a whole that's going to be a lot of work. might introduce breaking change in graphic personnalisation or some plugins which relies on JS+DOM to insert new element on a page.
15:17 tcohen       Encapsulated module inside Koha, that will be funcional and will serve as playground and we will eventually generate guidelines for using it on other pages
15:16 tuxayo       We can still vote here and ask also in the mailing list to have a wider reach.
15:15 tuxayo       POC but still means going in Koha and be released. POC as it's only for ERM and we will see the results to tell if future developments can use Vue?
15:15 tuxayo       > adopting Vue3 as a POC
15:13 tuxayo       jajm: overall, does that looks like a gain compared to the current approach?
15:12 ashimema     +1
15:11 tcohen       I vote +1 for adopting Vue3 as a POC, not sure about jajm's vote
15:11 nugged       but I will anyway bring his answer, thanks for reminder.
15:11 nugged       ashimema: he somewhat away from messengers these days, still not read my message. I wasn't insistent - and this went away from focus, I will re-send email him, but we found the answer those days - it's just to know, not to switch, vue3 is came through these years a lot and svelte  still "so small" in community so moving harder
15:10 tcohen       and we had paulderscheid[m] working on his project with a similar structure
15:10 ashimema     or compared to jQuery and our current way of doing things?
15:10 tuxayo       a jajm apears :D
15:10 tcohen       but the conversation circled around new technologies inviting new devs to contribute
15:10 ashimema     boilerplate compared to another framework..
15:10 jajm         yes, exactly what tcohen just said ;)
15:10 tuxayo       yes
15:10 tcohen       he had concerns about the extra boilerplate with no obvious gain
15:09 ashimema     I can't remember details from jajm then
15:09 ashimema     hmm, ok
15:09 tcohen       overall we agreed
15:09 tcohen       jajm: around?
15:09 fridolin     even 51% sure is ok
15:09 ashimema     we've been circling around a JS framework for years.. I don't think we'll gain anything from delaying further personally
15:09 tuxayo       ashimema: «and I think jajm seemed happy too» That changed from the beginning, right?
15:09 tcohen       :_D
15:09 tcohen       jajm wasn't that sure
15:08 oleonard     Agreed
15:08 fridolin     ah jajm is our JS ninja so green
15:08 ashimema     so to me.. I think we should go for it.. pull the band aid off
15:08 ashimema     oleonard and kidclamp both made positive noises as well in our call at hackgest
15:08 fridolin     but confident Joubu as choosen wisely
15:08 ashimema     well.. tomas and I both think we should go for it.. and I think jajm seemed happy too
15:07 tuxayo       same
15:07 fridolin     I could not say, knowing to few on JS frameworks
15:07 ashimema     did you hear anything from batman nugged?
15:07 tuxayo       So Joubu needs a greenlight to continue the new ERM module using Vue3
15:06 ashimema     +1
15:06 tuxayo       « Vote on using Vue3 for the new ERM module (as a proof of concept of the framework) https://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2022-April/046998.html »
15:06 ashimema     🙂
15:06 tuxayo       #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...)
15:06 tuxayo       done
15:06 tuxayo       « tuxayo add to terminology "use restriction, not debar/debarment" and notify koha-devel in case that wasn't a good idea. »
15:06 tuxayo       done
15:06 tuxayo       « tuxayo send ideas to have an easier time with big changes to koha-devel to get more of them and document them »
15:06 tuxayo       #topic Actions from last meeting
15:06 tuxayo       Yes, we can start on our morning in the afternoon have some overlap with the Americas.
15:04 liliputech   I meant US morning
15:03 liliputech   that means if we do the afternoon on 3 may, we will be in sync with US afternoon, that's great :)
15:03 tuxayo       moving on?
15:03 tuxayo       same, we can be here early on with european librarians
15:02 liliputech   same here then I guess.
15:02 * ashimema   would be happy to start early here
15:02 ashimema     so not too terrible for us
15:02 liliputech   that would be cool. I'm sending a mail to french community already
15:02 ashimema     11am US = 4pm UK
15:01 tuxayo       That doesn't change the date though?
15:01 nugged       tuxayo: ok yes noted
15:01 tuxayo       liliputech: If some people to guide tester are available in europe hours, the bug squashing can start early.
15:01 reiveune     bye
15:00 tuxayo       nugged: you can mention the bug squashing event at you meeting next thursday.
15:00 liliputech   pity it'll be on US timezone... (that makes the 4'th for french people? ^^)
15:00 fridolin     XD
15:00 fridolin     "May the tree be with you"
15:00 tuxayo       hence the name "bug squashing" :P
14:59 ashimema     I'll start advertising it in the UK too 😉
14:59 fridolin     bug squashing will likely be on bugs not features
14:59 tuxayo       great!
14:59 tuxayo       oh it's the 3 may!
14:59 ashimema     Tuesday, 3 May⋅4:00 – 6:50pm
14:59 ashimema     Bug Squashing Event
14:58 tuxayo       Friday, May 6, 2022
14:58 tuxayo       I only see "Hard feature freeze"
14:58 ashimema     oh yes.. so it is
14:58 fridolin     tuxayo:  it is already in calendar
14:58 ashimema     I can
14:58 tcohen       that'd be wizzyrea ?
14:57 tcohen       bywater++
14:57 tuxayo       Who can add that to the community calendar?
14:57 lukeg        https://bywatersolutions.com/education/celebrate-open-source-with-this-bug-squashing-event
14:57 liliputech   yes
14:57 liliputech   (might already...) also to koha-info user group :)
14:57 tuxayo       newsletter + mailing lists
14:57 liliputech   information should be shared on the koha-devel newsletter :)
14:56 ashimema     aha, excellent
14:56 tuxayo       That's perfect!
14:56 lukeg        ByWater has a Bug Squashing Event scheduled for May 3
14:55 liliputech   yes
14:55 liliputech   yen
14:55 tuxayo       liliputech: the symposium?
14:55 liliputech   I think there used to be a "bug squashing day" organized by kohala before, during their meetup. dunno if they still do it
14:54 ashimema     magnuse used to be the king of arranging those
14:54 liliputech   ashimema++
14:54 ashimema     try and encourage a group SO fest
14:54 liliputech   some training might be needed though. also some patches need specific commands which are not possible to do on sandboxes
14:54 ashimema     should we arrange another bug squashing day?
14:54 tuxayo       liliputech in the end koha-testing-docker directly on Windows didn't work well right?
14:53 tuxayo       ^^
14:53 nugged       tuxayo: 📝✔️
14:52 oleonard     I'm certainly not accusing them of laziness! :)
14:52 tuxayo       nugged: I can also guide librarians to do SO. You can give them my email or IRC nick so it's doesn't only rely only on your team.
14:51 ashimema     indeed
14:51 liliputech   severine_q++
14:51 nugged       oleonard: hackfest - people spent there more experience exchange and socializing & coordinating & training each other, so it was anyway very good gathering
14:51 liliputech   oleonard: we managed to install a few koha-testing-docker on librarians PC but most of them use corporate-locked windows pcs
14:51 ashimema     severine did an awesome job of the patron searching stuff
14:50 ashimema     we tied up some of them with bug scary ones I'm afraid
14:50 * oleonard   hoped there would be more signoffs coming from librarians at the Hackfest
14:49 nugged       ... I mean - to see the numbers and trend in 4-6 weeks from us, from Finland
14:49 * ashimema   really should fix the ptfs-e sandboxes
14:48 marcelr      probably PNA
14:48 marcelr      lots of older ones
14:48 nugged       I'll attract those my librarians for SO as we agreed on hackfest, I will have next thursday customers meeting, so I am ready to explain them that we wait some regular contribution, so let's check how MY (our) subpart for SO goes in 4-6 weeks
14:48 tuxayo       everyone test patches!
14:47 ashimema     325 reports in there!
14:46 ashimema     hmm.. though looking at the numbers.. I see the NSO queue is the bottle neck right now..
14:46 ashimema     indeed
14:46 fridolin     they do great work in patching and testig
14:45 fridolin     indeed
14:45 tcohen       qa++
14:45 ashimema     I'd love to see some other companies represented on the QA team.. InLibro perhaps for example?
14:45 ashimema     🙂
14:44 * nugged     not forget so will bring all others to the articles once /me will create
14:44 ashimema     getting people up to speed on QAing is something I am more than happy to devote time to.. just ask
14:44 tuxayo       Joubu++ and fridolin++ also.
14:44 tuxayo       nugged++ and to your team also and the voluntary libraries. Doing that is very valuable to have better releases.
14:44 ashimema     there's plenty more space on the QA team so sign up peeps: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_22.11
14:44 tcohen       sounds familiar
14:44 nugged       ashimemta tcohen: all other things (wikies + props on ill, erm, holdings, circrules: I am preparing, just drown with onboarding for that new guy)
14:43 * ashimema   has not forgotten his promises from hackfest.. just been away and stuff here so haven't got to them yet
14:43 tcohen       nugged++
14:43 ashimema     nugged++
14:42 ashimema     pleasure
14:42 tuxayo       The technique of beginning sorting tickets by small or trivial patches to get started without fearing getting stuck works great. Thank ashimema++ for the advice.
14:41 nugged       we took abroad +1 guy and discussing this week with piloting library to help with pre-release build testing for master branch as we did for 21.11 so same I will provide for Fridoling and Jonathan as before, we just will agree with another our library to help & test build and probably we will start that already from next week
14:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_U22 build #1: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 1 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_U22/1/
14:40 nugged       qa++! ❤️
14:40 marcelr      qa++
14:40 tuxayo       speaking of qa!
14:39 wahanui      qa_team is cait, joubu, tuxayo, marcelr, kidclamp, khall, tcohen, ashimema, nugged, kohaputti, petrova
14:39 tuxayo       qa_team?
14:39 tuxayo       #topic Updates from the QA team
14:39 * ashimema   is finding QA slow though.. the meeting is interesting.
14:39 tcohen       -.-
14:39 * ashimema   is QAing and watching meeting on the second monitor right now
14:39 tuxayo       #info Wainui is on leave for a month. It started two weeks ago i think. Rangi took over rmaint this month.
14:38 AndrewFH     tuxayo++
14:38 * tcohen     wants a second monitor to keep QAing and following the meeting without completely switching desktops
14:38 tuxayo       AndrewFH: not complaining, I could QA instead :P But I'll monitor oldstable closely to not get behind.
14:36 * ashimema   wants a time machine
14:36 tcohen       AndrewFH++
14:36 AndrewFH     yeah, I haven't managed to make as much time for it as I should. hoping to find time for some catchup here shortly
14:35 wahanui      i think rmaints is khall, AndrewFH, wainui and tuxayo
14:35 tuxayo       rmaints?
14:35 tuxayo       oldstable has been quiet this month so for oldoldstable, I didn't have much to chew on.
14:34 tuxayo       #topic  Updates from the Release Maintainers
14:34 tuxayo       great that we have good leads to fill our rmaint position :)
14:34 fridolin     it is well described https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_maintenance
14:33 liliputech   ok
14:33 tuxayo       liliputech: most of the time is doing the test plan. And some is conflict resolution.
14:33 fridolin     lets continue
14:33 fridolin     liliputech: i will lead you to this role, its easy ;)
14:32 fridolin     OK lets wait new week to see if it changes
14:32 liliputech   'kay. that mean apply/test/push patches to the main Koha repository on the proper branch right?
14:31 ashimema     that's how I managed it anyways
14:31 ashimema     so 5 hours a week or so.. sometimes a little more sometimes a little less
14:31 lukeg        its best to do a little everyday and not let things stack up
14:31 liliputech   would have to learn everything. would take some time at the beginning.
14:31 * ashimema   spent a little time every day on RMaint duties.. like I did an hour or two before our company morning call
14:31 liliputech   ashimema++
14:31 liliputech   fridolin: ok. ashimema : 21.11 is interesting version for me, working on a frontend. it bring a lot of new apis
14:30 ashimema     and I could certainly support anyone who did take on an RMaint role
14:30 tuxayo       Lot of patches to test
14:30 ashimema     liliputech, that would be awesome
14:30 tuxayo       thank fridolin I note that
14:30 fridolin     around 1h / day
14:30 liliputech   fridolin: how much time would it take? approx per week?
14:30 fridolin     tuxayo: i'd say a bit more
14:29 fridolin     liliputech: yep super, we will mail them with a proposition
14:29 tuxayo       Ah ok so clearly, stable is more work that oldstable?
14:29 liliputech   if i get dedicated time for this I wouldn't mind doing it but got to talk about it with paul / laurence first.
14:29 fridolin     sure, RMaints needs mandatory time around month releases
14:28 * ashimema   hopes so.. I hope to continue to focus on QA next cycle in what little time I'll have for community
14:28 fridolin     but its a famous place, like Prince for the RM king :D
14:28 tuxayo       biblibre you mean tcohen ?
14:28 tuxayo       > ptfs on 21.11
14:27 fridolin     and you have to deal with dependancies a lot
14:27 tcohen       <.<
14:27 tuxayo       But in the end of cycle it's harder
14:27 ashimema     though it kinda depends on your next RM and how bold they are at big changes early
14:27 tuxayo       stable should be easy at the beginning since it's close to master
14:26 tcohen       lukeg on 22.05, ptfs on 21.11
14:26 fridolin     lukeg: ahhh super because stable it more work, i may take oldstable
14:26 ashimema     there's more to port to 22.05, but the backports tend to be a little easier
14:26 lukeg        whatever is needed
14:26 tuxayo       Which is actually the hardest?
14:26 lukeg        fridolin: I would do either 22.05 or 21.11
14:26 ashimema     we're a .11 shop in ptfs-e these days.. so it's easier for me to commit people to .11 releases 😉
14:26 fridolin     indeed
14:25 liliputech   ok. that one is not installed by biblibre to our partners right?
14:25 fridolin     lukeg: you did chose oldstable on purpose ? not willing to be stable ?
14:25 fridolin     its mandatory
14:25 fridolin     liliputech: for stable 22.05
14:25 liliputech   fridolin: are we looking for rmaint 20.11 or 21.11?
14:24 tcohen       lukeg++ # on the QA team
14:24 tuxayo       fridolin: anything else from you to add?
14:24 * ashimema   only has one dev other than himself right now.. so we're a bit snowed under ;P
14:24 tuxayo       np if you can still do some QA that's already the best help. Good luck with your hire
14:24 fridolin     thanks for proposing RMaint 21.11
14:24 fridolin     hi lukeg
14:24 lukeg        #info Lucas Gass, ByWater Solutions
14:24 fridolin     cool
14:23 ashimema     hopefully 23.05 I might be able to get more community time again
14:23 fridolin     no pb
14:23 ashimema     We're mid hiring people at the minute so can't commit more this coming cycle
14:23 fridolin     before General meeting may 4th
14:23 ashimema     #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe.
14:23 fridolin     if it is still empty I will use ML next week
14:22 liliputech   ashimema: and nettle cakes ;) people in annecy liked it btw ^^
14:21 fridolin     ... we have cookies ^^
14:21 fridolin     ashimema: may there be someone for RMaint in PTFS ?
14:21 fridolin     and if nobody takes 20.11 we drop support
14:20 tuxayo       Wainui is on leave for at least two week I think. Rangi took over rmaint this month.
14:20 wahanui      hi, ashimema
14:20 ashimema     hello
14:20 ashimema     oop
14:20 tuxayo       Not sure, we will see.
14:20 oleonard     I imagine Wainui will still maintain 19.11 unless Catalyst has dropped support
14:19 fridolin     super we have RM of course
14:19 fridolin     we talked about that underground in HF
14:19 fridolin     yeyyyyy
14:19 oleonard     tcohen++
14:19 oleonard     Oh I missed that tcohen volunteered (or was forcibly volunteered??) to be RM
14:18 fridolin     I will talk to Biblibre to find someone (not me)
14:18 tuxayo       ouch
14:18 tuxayo       liliputech: It's the "Update from the Release manager" topic and I'm coping what Fridolin wrote in the agenda
14:18 fridolin     a difficult position
14:18 fridolin     we have not yet RMaint for stable
14:18 fridolin     yep
14:17 fridolin     no pb liliputech
14:17 tuxayo       «Find people for https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_22.11»
14:17 liliputech   (missed the "critical" information, sry)
14:17 liliputech   oh sure, not critical!
14:17 tuxayo       liliputech: not a critical as a jquery update :P
14:16 liliputech   it just got signed off by tuxayo (tx!)
14:16 tcohen       #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions
14:16 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25408 normal, P5 - low, ---, arthur.suzuki, Signed Off , CanBookBeReserved & CanItemBeReserved should check "opacitemholds" policy
14:16 liliputech   yup, what about bug 25408 ?
14:16 tuxayo       fridolin: anything to add?
14:16 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29155 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Upgrade jquery version
14:16 tuxayo       «Waiting for bug 29155»
14:16 thd          #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City (carrier interrupt)
14:15 oleonard     nikkom: We are having a meeting at the moment
14:15 fridolin     ah can be renamed
14:15 liliputech   ashimema: ^
14:15 fridolin     i mean i copies from previous cycle
14:15 tuxayo       Ok, past cycle it was named "Only > major bugfixes"
14:15 nikkom       asimema: Hello asimema. If you remember, I was trying to block the payment if the user has overdue payments. You directed me to the payment pages. I need more help. Please tell me how can I get the overdue information while on pay.pl or paycollect.pl?
14:14 fridolin     so feels like it is the béta test
14:14 fridolin     there was no short name for this event
14:14 fridolin     "Only bug fixes considered major, critical or blocker will be pushed"
14:13 fridolin     ah let me look
14:13 tuxayo       So the dates are in the calendar. What is "22.05 beta" ?
14:12 tuxayo       🤩
14:12 liliputech   even better when seen from the sky :) #paragliding
14:12 tuxayo       « End of cycle dates fixed »
14:12 tuxayo       #topic  Update from the Release manager (22.05)
14:12 tuxayo       *paddle back
14:12 oleonard     omg Annecy looks beautiful
14:11 fridolin     even the big Conté
14:11 fridolin     its has been finished by Biblibre users ;)
14:11 oleonard     Quick, run back
14:11 fridolin     omg no
14:11 tuxayo       fridolin: did you brought back hackfest cheese to Tahiti?
14:11 fridolin     French Alps "Fondue"
14:10 tuxayo       ?
14:10 fridolin     ah, smells like melted cheese ^^
14:10 liliputech   #info Arthur Suzuki, BibLibre, France (Annecy)
14:09 fridolin     we may wait a few minutes
14:09 oleonard     Felt like too few introductions :(
14:08 tuxayo       thanks oleonard  :)
14:08 wahanui      rmaints is khall, AndrewFH, wainui and tuxayo
14:08 tuxayo       rmaints?
14:08 tuxayo       Any announcement that doesn't fit in other agenda items?
14:08 wahanui      i think qa_team is cait, joubu, tuxayo, marcelr, kidclamp, khall, tcohen, ashimema, nugged, kohaputti, petrova
14:08 oleonard     qa_team?
14:07 tuxayo       #topic Announcements
14:07 kidclamp     #info Nick Clemens, ByWaterSolutions
14:07 tuxayo       :D
14:05 fridolin     we are acutally installing Koha to French Polynesia University :D
14:05 AndrewFH     #info Andrew Fuerste-Henry, ByWater Solutions, USA
14:05 fridolin     #info Fridolin Somers, BibLibre, France (Tahiti)
14:04 tuxayo       #info Victor Grousset, Tuxayo sh.a., France
14:04 oleonard     #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA
14:04 tuxayo       #topic Introductions
14:04 tuxayo       #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_20_April_2022 Today's agenda
14:04 huginn       The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_20_april_2022'
14:04 huginn       Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:04 huginn       Meeting started Wed Apr 20 14:04:04 2022 UTC.  The chair is tuxayo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:04 tuxayo       #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 20 April 2022
14:01 fridolin     me too
14:00 liliputech   ready
13:53 tcohen       grabbing some coffee!
13:53 liliputech   (i'll just grab a coffee, be right back)
13:51 liliputech   oooh. just got connected on time, got lucky :)
13:50 fridolin     Meeting in 10 https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_20_April_2022
13:49 fridolin     yellow
13:49 tuxayo       hi liliputech and fridolin  ^^
13:49 tuxayo       I though it was still waiting for me or someone else to test it again.
13:49 tuxayo       liliputech: didn't I forgot it? «I made a follow-up patch to make sure things won't be changed on the staff interface. Can you retry the patch-set please?»
13:47 liliputech   tuxayo: merci pour ton signoff sur bz25408, ça faisait longtemps que je l'attendais!
13:46 liliputech   hi koha :)
13:44 tuxayo       Meeting in 15 min!
13:39 marcelr      will do tcohen
13:39 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28371 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Improve performance of XSLTParse4Display
13:39 tcohen       marcelr: you should finish QA on bug 28371
13:27 tcohen       oleonard++
13:23 marcelr      support until the corner
13:01 ashimema     man we 'support' allot of configurations these days
13:01 ashimema     or correct them to be under D11.. I think they're run under D11
13:00 ashimema     should we drop the MariaDB and MySQL8 latests from that block?
12:58 ashimema     dashboard done
12:41 ashimema     lol
12:41 marcelr      switch to qa ashimema :)
12:40 * ashimema   is blind today
12:40 ashimema     oop.. D12 is there.
12:40 ashimema     and D12
12:40 ashimema     we have U21 and U22 missing.. lol
12:38 mtj          merci
12:37 ashimema     🙂
12:37 ashimema     I'm working on it mtj
12:37 mtj          ashimema: np, ill send a u22 patch for the dash
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12:27 ashimema     hmm.. thats highlighted that the versions listed on the dashboard are rather outdated
12:22 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30532 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , guided_reports.pl has a problem
12:22 ashimema     bug 30532
12:19 mtj          hi tcohen, we have a master_22.04 https://jenkins.koha-community.org/view/master/job/Koha_Master_U22/
11:54 oleonard     Has anyone here looked at 30532?
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11:49 tcohen       mtj: time to add Ubuntu 22.04 to the test suite
11:48 * tcohen     is lazy when it comes to searching on bugzilla today
11:48 oleonard     I assume all of them
11:48 marcelr      all
11:48 tcohen       which ones? :-D
11:46 marcelr      just sign off my patches tcohen :)
11:45 ashimema     lol
11:44 tcohen       everything works wrong with a project like our's size
11:43 tcohen       maybe some batch import (for example) is doing things wrong
11:43 ashimema     I like gittea.. but it does need some performance fixes really.
11:43 tcohen       anyway, I'm not sure why we set the column NULL, but that upgrade should've made those not-null
11:42 ashimema     yeah.. and that's after Joubu made a bunch of config changes to improve it for me a while back
11:42 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27253 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , borrowers.updated_on cannot be null on fresh install, but can be null with upgrade
11:42 marcelr      bug 27253
11:42 oleonard     Yeah :(
11:42 tcohen       gitea is so slow
11:42 tcohen       https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl#L12662
11:42 ashimema     🙂
11:41 marcelr      iirc
11:41 marcelr      PQA
11:41 marcelr      there is a report in the pipeline that touches updated_on in borrowers
11:40 oleonard     None in our production system so just a problem with my test data
11:38 oleonard     Thanks all that fixed it for me.
11:38 tcohen       UPDATE borrowers SET updated_on=NOW() WHERE updated_on IS NULL;
11:37 ashimema     yeagh
11:37 ashimema     but we should add a BD update to fix such data too
11:37 ashimema     that'll get you out of a hole..
11:37 tcohen       and maybe it is different on production deployments
11:37 ashimema     ok.. so the quick fix to get you working is to set them all to now()
11:37 tcohen       because we (devs) use strict mode mariadb/mysql
11:37 oleonard     I have 661 patrons with null updated_on :)
11:37 ashimema     I had similar issues with orders and accession dates
11:36 tcohen       let's check the dbrev that introduced updated_on
11:36 ashimema     but we didn't care before now.. the api makes these things stricter
11:36 ashimema     I don't know that there was
11:36 ashimema     (or worse there's a funky date that datetime explodes on?)
11:36 oleonard     Was there a db update that should have caught that?
11:36 ashimema     the error means you have some patrons with a null updated_on field in the database
11:35 ashimema     that could be data related
11:35 ashimema     ah
11:35 oleonard     I can search by category, by library, or browse by last name. But I can't search by name.
11:34 oleonard     https://paste.koha-community.org/8790
11:34 tcohen       what kind of errors
11:34 oleonard     :|
11:34 tcohen       heh
11:34 tcohen       nothing changes in the area for ages, oleonard
11:30 oleonard     Anyone else getting errors when searching patrons by name?
11:17 tcohen       hi ashimema
11:13 ashimema     morning tcohen
11:12 tcohen       hola #koha
11:09 marcelr      o/
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10:37 oleonard     I can search by category, by library, or browse by last name. But I can't search by name.
10:33 oleonard     Anyone know if this is a bug or just me? ^^
10:32 pastebot     "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Error when searching patrons by name" (5 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/8790
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10:20 oleonard     Hi all
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07:57 severine_q   Kia ora rangi[m] !
07:56 rangi[m]     hi severine_q
07:47 severine_q   Hi Koha !
07:47 rangi[m]     :-)
07:46 fridolin     maybe KohaCon25 in NZ wooooo
07:43 rangi[m]     im not sure we will have the budget to go, but perhaps
07:42 fridolin     i'm planning on comming
07:41 fridolin     rangi[m]: you may come to KohaCon22 US ?
07:38 rangi[m]     hehe
07:38 fridolin     we call our familly in the morning and they are already drunk :D
07:38 fridolin     for new year and Xmas
07:38 fridolin     funny indeed
07:37 rangi[m]     i think we are 22 hours apart :) which actually makes us closest to each other in time, just on a whole different day :)
07:35 fridolin     rangi[m]: yey good to see u
07:34 rangi[m]     2am for me :)
07:33 fridolin     (tomorrow 4am for me)
07:33 fridolin     today meeting https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_20_April_2022
07:26 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25815: SIP Checkout: add more information on why the patron is blocked. <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d21157b35c3cee9c74f9abdd436a17e7b4ca3c58>
07:26 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 29483: Check ItemsAnyAvailableAndNotRestricted once per patron <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=68c92b49d12f4e16fb6679835cc04eeda8c51633>
07:26 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 29483: Unit tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4113f765b6fd4d62d8aa3ae86de5e0f4987b227e>
07:26 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 29483: Further improve performance of script <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa8e9fe5c5ba7a9d1e7f688e894d460ef5adc94d>
07:26 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 29602: Surround strings with span tag <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e08629b68b40ee142968a4b589da15653c7c8e8e>
07:26 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 29602: (follow-up) Surround strings with span tag <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e7153a5722d9d260861db082fcbf9205822f8ec>
07:26 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 29602: (follow-up) Fix TT tags broken due to missing % <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b919ed124239805c296377d42e8da9fb45ad68c>
07:26 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 29602: (follow-up) fix crash: SET KohaSpan => USE KohaSpan <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7a51588854f27bb908d2eb66cb54314bd5c8bfc>
07:26 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 29602: (follow-up) fix duplicate, missing or mismatching <span> <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9dcfa320f50466ddd75eb90697e9ff3bb12722de>
07:26 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 30223: Move book cover image upload JS to a separate file <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e90c0cbb3abc4656139cfdbdefbbc159f67c470>
07:26 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 30435: Remove unused MACLES cataloging plugin <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cddcba9edb4f5defa559ab59ea2d6ba6ac3d65bc>
07:26 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 30488: Fix error when placing recall via OPAC <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3642d51a12bab8ae63ce026325aca5c936c533f>
07:26 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 30509: Fix configuration of Notices accordion widget <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=42612370cca95ece959ab7cbdba5275010a6b521>
07:26 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 30518: Correct DateTime maths for needs_advancing <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c48ec95cbfc717a460a723e1a0f8274a2c4aace9>
07:26 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 30518: Unit test <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae557cfa91655b6bb8316b1a4632876f08a54640>
07:26 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 30540: eval on set_time_zone <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2562727648cbde443a3fac7c475492c6976b5dab>
07:26 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 30540: Unit test <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5bf08e4d490ff2f970e9c0cece294cdbb198be46>
07:26 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 30540: Fix perl critic complaint of leading zeros <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=844ed1d534f9a42eba298df3e44ff4b0375641e1>
07:02 matts        hi !
06:36 wahanui      hello, reiveune
06:36 reiveune     hello
02:21 mtj          hi tuxayo, re 30034 - you can ignore :)