Time Nick Message 02:21 mtj hi tuxayo, re 30034 - you can ignore :) 06:36 reiveune hello 06:36 wahanui hello, reiveune 07:02 matts hi ! 07:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30540: Fix perl critic complaint of leading zeros <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=844ed1d534f9a42eba298df3e44ff4b0375641e1> 07:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30540: Unit test <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5bf08e4d490ff2f970e9c0cece294cdbb198be46> 07:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30540: eval on set_time_zone <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2562727648cbde443a3fac7c475492c6976b5dab> 07:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30518: Unit test <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae557cfa91655b6bb8316b1a4632876f08a54640> 07:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30518: Correct DateTime maths for needs_advancing <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c48ec95cbfc717a460a723e1a0f8274a2c4aace9> 07:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30509: Fix configuration of Notices accordion widget <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=42612370cca95ece959ab7cbdba5275010a6b521> 07:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30488: Fix error when placing recall via OPAC <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3642d51a12bab8ae63ce026325aca5c936c533f> 07:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30435: Remove unused MACLES cataloging plugin <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cddcba9edb4f5defa559ab59ea2d6ba6ac3d65bc> 07:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30223: Move book cover image upload JS to a separate file <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e90c0cbb3abc4656139cfdbdefbbc159f67c470> 07:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 29602: (follow-up) fix duplicate, missing or mismatching <span> <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9dcfa320f50466ddd75eb90697e9ff3bb12722de> 07:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 29602: (follow-up) fix crash: SET KohaSpan => USE KohaSpan <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7a51588854f27bb908d2eb66cb54314bd5c8bfc> 07:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 29602: (follow-up) Fix TT tags broken due to missing % <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b919ed124239805c296377d42e8da9fb45ad68c> 07:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 29602: (follow-up) Surround strings with span tag <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e7153a5722d9d260861db082fcbf9205822f8ec> 07:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 29602: Surround strings with span tag <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e08629b68b40ee142968a4b589da15653c7c8e8e> 07:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 29483: Further improve performance of script <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa8e9fe5c5ba7a9d1e7f688e894d460ef5adc94d> 07:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 29483: Unit tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4113f765b6fd4d62d8aa3ae86de5e0f4987b227e> 07:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 29483: Check ItemsAnyAvailableAndNotRestricted once per patron <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=68c92b49d12f4e16fb6679835cc04eeda8c51633> 07:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25815: SIP Checkout: add more information on why the patron is blocked. <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d21157b35c3cee9c74f9abdd436a17e7b4ca3c58> 07:33 fridolin today meeting https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_20_April_2022 07:33 fridolin (tomorrow 4am for me) 07:34 rangi[m] 2am for me :) 07:35 fridolin rangi[m]: yey good to see u 07:37 rangi[m] i think we are 22 hours apart :) which actually makes us closest to each other in time, just on a whole different day :) 07:38 fridolin funny indeed 07:38 fridolin for new year and Xmas 07:38 fridolin we call our familly in the morning and they are already drunk :D 07:38 rangi[m] hehe 07:41 fridolin rangi[m]: you may come to KohaCon22 US ? 07:42 fridolin i'm planning on comming 07:43 rangi[m] im not sure we will have the budget to go, but perhaps 07:46 fridolin maybe KohaCon25 in NZ wooooo 07:47 rangi[m] :-) 07:47 severine_q Hi Koha ! 07:56 rangi[m] hi severine_q 07:57 severine_q Kia ora rangi[m] ! 08:03 alohabot 🎠🦄 Koha 'master' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo 🥪ðŸðŸ› 08:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U_Stable build #437: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U_Stable/437/ 08:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U_Next build #18: UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U_Next/18/ 08:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11_My8 build #795: STILL UNSTABLE in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11_My8/795/ 08:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U21 build #146: UNSTABLE in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U21/146/ 08:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_Sid build #12: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_Sid/12/ 08:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1927: UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1927/ 09:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #366: UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/366/ 09:21 alohabot 🎠🤡 Koha '19.11.x' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo ðŸ™ðŸ›ðŸ 09:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11_MDB_Latest build #863: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11_MDB_Latest/863/ 09:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D10 build #252: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D10/252/ 09:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1981: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1981/ 09:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #597: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 2 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/597/ 09:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #370: FAILURE in 2 min 49 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/370/ 09:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U21 build #30: SUCCESS in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U21/30/ 09:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U20 build #281: FAILURE in 2 min 46 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U20/281/ 09:55 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #455: SUCCESS in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/455/ 10:20 oleonard Hi all 10:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D11 build #39: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D11/39/ 10:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U16 build #136: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U16/136/ 10:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #408: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/408/ 10:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D12 build #126: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D12/126/ 10:32 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Error when searching patrons by name" (5 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/8790 10:33 oleonard Anyone know if this is a bug or just me? ^^ 10:37 oleonard I can search by category, by library, or browse by last name. But I can't search by name. 10:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #598: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/598/ 10:46 oleonard Just you and me koha-jenkins. 10:54 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 10:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U20 build #282: FIXED in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U20/282/ 10:54 wahanui Congratulations! 11:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U_Stable build #78: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U_Stable/78/ 11:05 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 11:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #371: FIXED in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/371/ 11:05 wahanui Congratulations! 11:08 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1982: FAILURE in 8 min 3 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1982/ 11:09 marcelr o/ 11:12 tcohen hola #koha 11:13 ashimema morning tcohen 11:17 tcohen hi ashimema 11:30 oleonard Anyone else getting errors when searching patrons by name? 11:34 tcohen nothing changes in the area for ages, oleonard 11:34 tcohen heh 11:34 oleonard :| 11:34 tcohen what kind of errors 11:34 oleonard https://paste.koha-community.org/8790 11:35 oleonard I can search by category, by library, or browse by last name. But I can't search by name. 11:35 ashimema ah 11:35 ashimema that could be data related 11:36 ashimema the error means you have some patrons with a null updated_on field in the database 11:36 oleonard Was there a db update that should have caught that? 11:36 ashimema (or worse there's a funky date that datetime explodes on?) 11:36 ashimema I don't know that there was 11:36 ashimema but we didn't care before now.. the api makes these things stricter 11:36 tcohen let's check the dbrev that introduced updated_on 11:37 ashimema I had similar issues with orders and accession dates 11:37 oleonard I have 661 patrons with null updated_on :) 11:37 tcohen because we (devs) use strict mode mariadb/mysql 11:37 ashimema ok.. so the quick fix to get you working is to set them all to now() 11:37 tcohen and maybe it is different on production deployments 11:37 ashimema that'll get you out of a hole.. 11:37 ashimema but we should add a BD update to fix such data too 11:37 ashimema yeagh 11:38 tcohen UPDATE borrowers SET updated_on=NOW() WHERE updated_on IS NULL; 11:38 oleonard Thanks all that fixed it for me. 11:40 oleonard None in our production system so just a problem with my test data 11:41 marcelr there is a report in the pipeline that touches updated_on in borrowers 11:41 marcelr PQA 11:41 marcelr iirc 11:42 ashimema 🙂 11:42 tcohen https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl#L12662 11:42 tcohen gitea is so slow 11:42 oleonard Yeah :( 11:42 marcelr bug 27253 11:42 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27253 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , borrowers.updated_on cannot be null on fresh install, but can be null with upgrade 11:42 ashimema yeah.. and that's after Joubu made a bunch of config changes to improve it for me a while back 11:43 tcohen anyway, I'm not sure why we set the column NULL, but that upgrade should've made those not-null 11:43 ashimema I like gittea.. but it does need some performance fixes really. 11:43 tcohen maybe some batch import (for example) is doing things wrong 11:44 tcohen everything works wrong with a project like our's size 11:45 ashimema lol 11:46 marcelr just sign off my patches tcohen :) 11:48 tcohen which ones? :-D 11:48 marcelr all 11:48 oleonard I assume all of them 11:48 * tcohen is lazy when it comes to searching on bugzilla today 11:49 tcohen mtj: time to add Ubuntu 22.04 to the test suite 11:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U_Stable build #79: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U_Stable/79/ 11:54 oleonard Has anyone here looked at 30532? 12:19 mtj hi tcohen, we have a master_22.04 https://jenkins.koha-community.org/view/master/job/Koha_Master_U22/ 12:22 ashimema bug 30532 12:22 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30532 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , guided_reports.pl has a problem 12:27 ashimema hmm.. thats highlighted that the versions listed on the dashboard are rather outdated 12:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1983: NOW UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1983/ 12:37 mtj ashimema: np, ill send a u22 patch for the dash 12:37 ashimema I'm working on it mtj 12:37 ashimema 🙂 12:38 mtj merci 12:40 ashimema we have U21 and U22 missing.. lol 12:40 ashimema and D12 12:40 ashimema oop.. D12 is there. 12:40 * ashimema is blind today 12:41 marcelr switch to qa ashimema :) 12:41 ashimema lol 12:58 ashimema dashboard done 13:00 ashimema should we drop the MariaDB and MySQL8 latests from that block? 13:01 ashimema or correct them to be under D11.. I think they're run under D11 13:01 ashimema man we 'support' allot of configurations these days 13:23 marcelr support until the corner 13:27 tcohen oleonard++ 13:39 tcohen marcelr: you should finish QA on bug 28371 13:39 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28371 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Improve performance of XSLTParse4Display 13:39 marcelr will do tcohen 13:44 tuxayo Meeting in 15 min! 13:46 liliputech hi koha :) 13:47 liliputech tuxayo: merci pour ton signoff sur bz25408, ça faisait longtemps que je l'attendais! 13:49 tuxayo liliputech: didn't I forgot it? «I made a follow-up patch to make sure things won't be changed on the staff interface. Can you retry the patch-set please?» 13:49 tuxayo I though it was still waiting for me or someone else to test it again. 13:49 tuxayo hi liliputech and fridolin ^^ 13:49 fridolin yellow 13:50 fridolin Meeting in 10 https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_20_April_2022 13:51 liliputech oooh. just got connected on time, got lucky :) 13:53 liliputech (i'll just grab a coffee, be right back) 13:53 tcohen grabbing some coffee! 14:00 liliputech ready 14:01 fridolin me too 14:04 tuxayo #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 20 April 2022 14:04 huginn Meeting started Wed Apr 20 14:04:04 2022 UTC. The chair is tuxayo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:04 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:04 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_20_april_2022' 14:04 tuxayo #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_20_April_2022 Today's agenda 14:04 tuxayo #topic Introductions 14:04 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 14:04 tuxayo #info Victor Grousset, Tuxayo sh.a., France 14:05 fridolin #info Fridolin Somers, BibLibre, France (Tahiti) 14:05 AndrewFH #info Andrew Fuerste-Henry, ByWater Solutions, USA 14:05 fridolin we are acutally installing Koha to French Polynesia University :D 14:07 tuxayo :D 14:07 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWaterSolutions 14:07 tuxayo #topic Announcements 14:08 oleonard qa_team? 14:08 wahanui i think qa_team is cait, joubu, tuxayo, marcelr, kidclamp, khall, tcohen, ashimema, nugged, kohaputti, petrova 14:08 tuxayo Any announcement that doesn't fit in other agenda items? 14:08 tuxayo rmaints? 14:08 wahanui rmaints is khall, AndrewFH, wainui and tuxayo 14:08 tuxayo thanks oleonard :) 14:09 oleonard Felt like too few introductions :( 14:09 fridolin we may wait a few minutes 14:10 liliputech #info Arthur Suzuki, BibLibre, France (Annecy) 14:10 fridolin ah, smells like melted cheese ^^ 14:10 tuxayo ? 14:11 fridolin French Alps "Fondue" 14:11 tuxayo fridolin: did you brought back hackfest cheese to Tahiti? 14:11 fridolin omg no 14:11 oleonard Quick, run back 14:11 fridolin its has been finished by Biblibre users ;) 14:11 fridolin even the big Conté 14:12 oleonard omg Annecy looks beautiful 14:12 tuxayo *paddle back 14:12 tuxayo #topic Update from the Release manager (22.05) 14:12 tuxayo « End of cycle dates fixed » 14:12 liliputech even better when seen from the sky :) #paragliding 14:12 tuxayo 🤩 14:13 tuxayo So the dates are in the calendar. What is "22.05 beta" ? 14:13 fridolin ah let me look 14:14 fridolin "Only bug fixes considered major, critical or blocker will be pushed" 14:14 fridolin there was no short name for this event 14:14 fridolin so feels like it is the béta test 14:15 nikkom asimema: Hello asimema. If you remember, I was trying to block the payment if the user has overdue payments. You directed me to the payment pages. I need more help. Please tell me how can I get the overdue information while on pay.pl or paycollect.pl? 14:15 tuxayo Ok, past cycle it was named "Only > major bugfixes" 14:15 fridolin i mean i copies from previous cycle 14:15 liliputech ashimema: ^ 14:15 fridolin ah can be renamed 14:15 oleonard nikkom: We are having a meeting at the moment 14:16 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City (carrier interrupt) 14:16 tuxayo «Waiting for bug 29155» 14:16 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29155 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Upgrade jquery version 14:16 tuxayo fridolin: anything to add? 14:16 liliputech yup, what about bug 25408 ? 14:16 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25408 normal, P5 - low, ---, arthur.suzuki, Signed Off , CanBookBeReserved & CanItemBeReserved should check "opacitemholds" policy 14:16 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions 14:16 liliputech it just got signed off by tuxayo (tx!) 14:17 tuxayo liliputech: not a critical as a jquery update :P 14:17 liliputech oh sure, not critical! 14:17 liliputech (missed the "critical" information, sry) 14:17 tuxayo «Find people for https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_22.11» 14:17 fridolin no pb liliputech 14:18 fridolin yep 14:18 fridolin we have not yet RMaint for stable 14:18 fridolin a difficult position 14:18 tuxayo liliputech: It's the "Update from the Release manager" topic and I'm coping what Fridolin wrote in the agenda 14:18 tuxayo ouch 14:18 fridolin I will talk to Biblibre to find someone (not me) 14:19 oleonard Oh I missed that tcohen volunteered (or was forcibly volunteered??) to be RM 14:19 oleonard tcohen++ 14:19 fridolin yeyyyyy 14:19 fridolin we talked about that underground in HF 14:19 fridolin super we have RM of course 14:20 oleonard I imagine Wainui will still maintain 19.11 unless Catalyst has dropped support 14:20 tuxayo Not sure, we will see. 14:20 ashimema oop 14:20 ashimema hello 14:20 wahanui hi, ashimema 14:20 tuxayo Wainui is on leave for at least two week I think. Rangi took over rmaint this month. 14:21 fridolin and if nobody takes 20.11 we drop support 14:21 fridolin ashimema: may there be someone for RMaint in PTFS ? 14:21 fridolin ... we have cookies ^^ 14:22 liliputech ashimema: and nettle cakes ;) people in annecy liked it btw ^^ 14:23 fridolin if it is still empty I will use ML next week 14:23 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe. 14:23 fridolin before General meeting may 4th 14:23 ashimema We're mid hiring people at the minute so can't commit more this coming cycle 14:23 fridolin no pb 14:23 ashimema hopefully 23.05 I might be able to get more community time again 14:24 fridolin cool 14:24 lukeg #info Lucas Gass, ByWater Solutions 14:24 fridolin hi lukeg 14:24 fridolin thanks for proposing RMaint 21.11 14:24 tuxayo np if you can still do some QA that's already the best help. Good luck with your hire 14:24 * ashimema only has one dev other than himself right now.. so we're a bit snowed under ;P 14:24 tuxayo fridolin: anything else from you to add? 14:24 tcohen lukeg++ # on the QA team 14:25 liliputech fridolin: are we looking for rmaint 20.11 or 21.11? 14:25 fridolin liliputech: for stable 22.05 14:25 fridolin its mandatory 14:25 fridolin lukeg: you did chose oldstable on purpose ? not willing to be stable ? 14:25 liliputech ok. that one is not installed by biblibre to our partners right? 14:26 fridolin indeed 14:26 ashimema we're a .11 shop in ptfs-e these days.. so it's easier for me to commit people to .11 releases 😉 14:26 lukeg fridolin: I would do either 22.05 or 21.11 14:26 tuxayo Which is actually the hardest? 14:26 lukeg whatever is needed 14:26 ashimema there's more to port to 22.05, but the backports tend to be a little easier 14:26 fridolin lukeg: ahhh super because stable it more work, i may take oldstable 14:26 tcohen lukeg on 22.05, ptfs on 21.11 14:27 tuxayo stable should be easy at the beginning since it's close to master 14:27 ashimema though it kinda depends on your next RM and how bold they are at big changes early 14:27 tuxayo But in the end of cycle it's harder 14:27 tcohen <.< 14:27 fridolin and you have to deal with dependancies a lot 14:28 tuxayo > ptfs on 21.11 14:28 tuxayo biblibre you mean tcohen ? 14:28 fridolin but its a famous place, like Prince for the RM king :D 14:28 * ashimema hopes so.. I hope to continue to focus on QA next cycle in what little time I'll have for community 14:29 fridolin sure, RMaints needs mandatory time around month releases 14:29 liliputech if i get dedicated time for this I wouldn't mind doing it but got to talk about it with paul / laurence first. 14:29 tuxayo Ah ok so clearly, stable is more work that oldstable? 14:29 fridolin liliputech: yep super, we will mail them with a proposition 14:30 fridolin tuxayo: i'd say a bit more 14:30 liliputech fridolin: how much time would it take? approx per week? 14:30 fridolin around 1h / day 14:30 tuxayo thank fridolin I note that 14:30 ashimema liliputech, that would be awesome 14:30 tuxayo Lot of patches to test 14:30 ashimema and I could certainly support anyone who did take on an RMaint role 14:31 liliputech fridolin: ok. ashimema : 21.11 is interesting version for me, working on a frontend. it bring a lot of new apis 14:31 liliputech ashimema++ 14:31 * ashimema spent a little time every day on RMaint duties.. like I did an hour or two before our company morning call 14:31 liliputech would have to learn everything. would take some time at the beginning. 14:31 lukeg its best to do a little everyday and not let things stack up 14:31 ashimema so 5 hours a week or so.. sometimes a little more sometimes a little less 14:31 ashimema that's how I managed it anyways 14:32 liliputech 'kay. that mean apply/test/push patches to the main Koha repository on the proper branch right? 14:32 fridolin OK lets wait new week to see if it changes 14:33 fridolin liliputech: i will lead you to this role, its easy ;) 14:33 fridolin lets continue 14:33 tuxayo liliputech: most of the time is doing the test plan. And some is conflict resolution. 14:33 liliputech ok 14:34 fridolin it is well described https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_maintenance 14:34 tuxayo great that we have good leads to fill our rmaint position :) 14:34 tuxayo #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 14:35 tuxayo oldstable has been quiet this month so for oldoldstable, I didn't have much to chew on. 14:35 tuxayo rmaints? 14:35 wahanui i think rmaints is khall, AndrewFH, wainui and tuxayo 14:36 AndrewFH yeah, I haven't managed to make as much time for it as I should. hoping to find time for some catchup here shortly 14:36 tcohen AndrewFH++ 14:36 * ashimema wants a time machine 14:38 tuxayo AndrewFH: not complaining, I could QA instead :P But I'll monitor oldstable closely to not get behind. 14:38 * tcohen wants a second monitor to keep QAing and following the meeting without completely switching desktops 14:38 AndrewFH tuxayo++ 14:39 tuxayo #info Wainui is on leave for a month. It started two weeks ago i think. Rangi took over rmaint this month. 14:39 * ashimema is QAing and watching meeting on the second monitor right now 14:39 tcohen -.- 14:39 * ashimema is finding QA slow though.. the meeting is interesting. 14:39 tuxayo #topic Updates from the QA team 14:39 tuxayo qa_team? 14:39 wahanui qa_team is cait, joubu, tuxayo, marcelr, kidclamp, khall, tcohen, ashimema, nugged, kohaputti, petrova 14:40 tuxayo speaking of qa! 14:40 marcelr qa++ 14:40 nugged qa++! â¤ï¸ 14:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_U22 build #1: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 1 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_U22/1/ 14:41 nugged we took abroad +1 guy and discussing this week with piloting library to help with pre-release build testing for master branch as we did for 21.11 so same I will provide for Fridoling and Jonathan as before, we just will agree with another our library to help & test build and probably we will start that already from next week 14:42 tuxayo The technique of beginning sorting tickets by small or trivial patches to get started without fearing getting stuck works great. Thank ashimema++ for the advice. 14:42 ashimema pleasure 14:43 ashimema nugged++ 14:43 tcohen nugged++ 14:43 * ashimema has not forgotten his promises from hackfest.. just been away and stuff here so haven't got to them yet 14:44 nugged ashimemta tcohen: all other things (wikies + props on ill, erm, holdings, circrules: I am preparing, just drown with onboarding for that new guy) 14:44 tcohen sounds familiar 14:44 ashimema there's plenty more space on the QA team so sign up peeps: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_22.11 14:44 tuxayo nugged++ and to your team also and the voluntary libraries. Doing that is very valuable to have better releases. 14:44 tuxayo Joubu++ and fridolin++ also. 14:44 ashimema getting people up to speed on QAing is something I am more than happy to devote time to.. just ask 14:44 * nugged not forget so will bring all others to the articles once /me will create 14:45 ashimema 🙂 14:45 ashimema I'd love to see some other companies represented on the QA team.. InLibro perhaps for example? 14:45 tcohen qa++ 14:45 fridolin indeed 14:46 fridolin they do great work in patching and testig 14:46 ashimema indeed 14:46 ashimema hmm.. though looking at the numbers.. I see the NSO queue is the bottle neck right now.. 14:47 ashimema 325 reports in there! 14:48 tuxayo everyone test patches! 14:48 nugged I'll attract those my librarians for SO as we agreed on hackfest, I will have next thursday customers meeting, so I am ready to explain them that we wait some regular contribution, so let's check how MY (our) subpart for SO goes in 4-6 weeks 14:48 marcelr lots of older ones 14:48 marcelr probably PNA 14:49 * ashimema really should fix the ptfs-e sandboxes 14:49 nugged ... I mean - to see the numbers and trend in 4-6 weeks from us, from Finland 14:50 * oleonard hoped there would be more signoffs coming from librarians at the Hackfest 14:50 ashimema we tied up some of them with bug scary ones I'm afraid 14:51 ashimema severine did an awesome job of the patron searching stuff 14:51 liliputech oleonard: we managed to install a few koha-testing-docker on librarians PC but most of them use corporate-locked windows pcs 14:51 nugged oleonard: hackfest - people spent there more experience exchange and socializing & coordinating & training each other, so it was anyway very good gathering 14:51 liliputech severine_q++ 14:51 ashimema indeed 14:52 tuxayo nugged: I can also guide librarians to do SO. You can give them my email or IRC nick so it's doesn't only rely only on your team. 14:52 oleonard I'm certainly not accusing them of laziness! :) 14:53 nugged tuxayo: ðŸ“âœ”ï¸ 14:53 tuxayo ^^ 14:54 tuxayo liliputech in the end koha-testing-docker directly on Windows didn't work well right? 14:54 ashimema should we arrange another bug squashing day? 14:54 liliputech some training might be needed though. also some patches need specific commands which are not possible to do on sandboxes 14:54 ashimema try and encourage a group SO fest 14:54 liliputech ashimema++ 14:54 ashimema magnuse used to be the king of arranging those 14:55 liliputech I think there used to be a "bug squashing day" organized by kohala before, during their meetup. dunno if they still do it 14:55 tuxayo liliputech: the symposium? 14:55 liliputech yen 14:55 liliputech yes 14:56 lukeg ByWater has a Bug Squashing Event scheduled for May 3 14:56 tuxayo That's perfect! 14:56 ashimema aha, excellent 14:57 liliputech information should be shared on the koha-devel newsletter :) 14:57 tuxayo newsletter + mailing lists 14:57 liliputech (might already...) also to koha-info user group :) 14:57 liliputech yes 14:57 lukeg https://bywatersolutions.com/education/celebrate-open-source-with-this-bug-squashing-event 14:57 tuxayo Who can add that to the community calendar? 14:57 tcohen bywater++ 14:58 tcohen that'd be wizzyrea ? 14:58 ashimema I can 14:58 fridolin tuxayo: it is already in calendar 14:58 ashimema oh yes.. so it is 14:58 tuxayo I only see "Hard feature freeze" 14:58 tuxayo Friday, May 6, 2022 14:59 ashimema Bug Squashing Event 14:59 ashimema Tuesday, 3 Mayâ‹…4:00 – 6:50pm 14:59 tuxayo oh it's the 3 may! 14:59 tuxayo great! 14:59 fridolin bug squashing will likely be on bugs not features 14:59 ashimema I'll start advertising it in the UK too 😉 15:00 tuxayo hence the name "bug squashing" :P 15:00 fridolin "May the tree be with you" 15:00 fridolin XD 15:00 liliputech pity it'll be on US timezone... (that makes the 4'th for french people? ^^) 15:00 tuxayo nugged: you can mention the bug squashing event at you meeting next thursday. 15:01 reiveune bye 15:01 tuxayo liliputech: If some people to guide tester are available in europe hours, the bug squashing can start early. 15:01 nugged tuxayo: ok yes noted 15:01 tuxayo That doesn't change the date though? 15:02 ashimema 11am US = 4pm UK 15:02 liliputech that would be cool. I'm sending a mail to french community already 15:02 ashimema so not too terrible for us 15:02 * ashimema would be happy to start early here 15:02 liliputech same here then I guess. 15:03 tuxayo same, we can be here early on with european librarians 15:03 tuxayo moving on? 15:03 liliputech that means if we do the afternoon on 3 may, we will be in sync with US afternoon, that's great :) 15:04 liliputech I meant US morning 15:06 tuxayo Yes, we can start on our morning in the afternoon have some overlap with the Americas. 15:06 tuxayo #topic Actions from last meeting 15:06 tuxayo « tuxayo send ideas to have an easier time with big changes to koha-devel to get more of them and document them » 15:06 tuxayo done 15:06 tuxayo « tuxayo add to terminology "use restriction, not debar/debarment" and notify koha-devel in case that wasn't a good idea. » 15:06 tuxayo done 15:06 tuxayo #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 15:06 ashimema 🙂 15:06 tuxayo « Vote on using Vue3 for the new ERM module (as a proof of concept of the framework) https://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2022-April/046998.html » 15:06 ashimema +1 15:07 tuxayo So Joubu needs a greenlight to continue the new ERM module using Vue3 15:07 ashimema did you hear anything from batman nugged? 15:07 fridolin I could not say, knowing to few on JS frameworks 15:07 tuxayo same 15:08 ashimema well.. tomas and I both think we should go for it.. and I think jajm seemed happy too 15:08 fridolin but confident Joubu as choosen wisely 15:08 ashimema oleonard and kidclamp both made positive noises as well in our call at hackgest 15:08 ashimema so to me.. I think we should go for it.. pull the band aid off 15:08 fridolin ah jajm is our JS ninja so green 15:08 oleonard Agreed 15:09 tcohen jajm wasn't that sure 15:09 tcohen :_D 15:09 tuxayo ashimema: «and I think jajm seemed happy too» That changed from the beginning, right? 15:09 ashimema we've been circling around a JS framework for years.. I don't think we'll gain anything from delaying further personally 15:09 fridolin even 51% sure is ok 15:09 tcohen jajm: around? 15:09 tcohen overall we agreed 15:09 ashimema hmm, ok 15:09 ashimema I can't remember details from jajm then 15:10 tcohen he had concerns about the extra boilerplate with no obvious gain 15:10 tuxayo yes 15:10 jajm yes, exactly what tcohen just said ;) 15:10 ashimema boilerplate compared to another framework.. 15:10 tcohen but the conversation circled around new technologies inviting new devs to contribute 15:10 tuxayo a jajm apears :D 15:10 ashimema or compared to jQuery and our current way of doing things? 15:10 tcohen and we had paulderscheid[m] working on his project with a similar structure 15:11 nugged ashimema: he somewhat away from messengers these days, still not read my message. I wasn't insistent - and this went away from focus, I will re-send email him, but we found the answer those days - it's just to know, not to switch, vue3 is came through these years a lot and svelte still "so small" in community so moving harder 15:11 nugged but I will anyway bring his answer, thanks for reminder. 15:11 tcohen I vote +1 for adopting Vue3 as a POC, not sure about jajm's vote 15:12 ashimema +1 15:13 tuxayo jajm: overall, does that looks like a gain compared to the current approach? 15:15 tuxayo > adopting Vue3 as a POC 15:15 tuxayo POC but still means going in Koha and be released. POC as it's only for ERM and we will see the results to tell if future developments can use Vue? 15:16 tuxayo We can still vote here and ask also in the mailing list to have a wider reach. 15:17 tcohen Encapsulated module inside Koha, that will be funcional and will serve as playground and we will eventually generate guidelines for using it on other pages 15:17 liliputech +1 for the POC, but when it comes to move Koha as a whole that's going to be a lot of work. might introduce breaking change in graphic personnalisation or some plugins which relies on JS+DOM to insert new element on a page. 15:17 thd I assume that replacing every use of jQuery with vue.js is not intended at least not at this time. 15:18 tcohen thd: it is not 15:18 tuxayo #startvote Shall Vue3 be used for the new ERM module? Yes, No, Abstain. 15:18 huginn Begin voting on: Shall Vue3 be used for the new ERM module? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain, . 15:18 huginn Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 15:19 oleonard #vote Yes 15:19 liliputech #vote Yes 15:19 thd #vote Yes 15:19 ashimema #vote Yes 15:19 tcohen #vote Yes 15:19 nugged #vote Yes 15:20 jajm #vote Abstain 15:20 tuxayo #vote Abstain 15:20 tuxayo I trust our JS gurus. I didn't review the code and done research so I can't say I can choose. 15:20 tuxayo But I'm confident it will okay :) 15:20 ashimema 🙂 15:21 tuxayo fridolin: ? 15:21 tcohen khall_: it is being voted if we use Vue3 for the ERM module in Koha 15:21 tuxayo marcelr? 15:21 wahanui marcelr is just amazed that next is faster than count 15:21 tuxayo lol 15:21 fridolin #vote Yes 15:22 tuxayo AndrewFH? 15:22 tcohen kidclamp: 15:22 tuxayo lukeg? 15:22 wahanui lukeg is around now :) 15:22 tcohen Joubu? 15:22 wahanui well, Joubu is starting to brew again 15:22 AndrewFH #vote Yes 15:22 lukeg #vote Abstain 15:22 kidclamp #vote Yes 15:23 tuxayo > Joubu is starting to brew again 15:23 tuxayo And the result was successful at the hackfest. 15:23 liliputech indeed 15:23 fridolin ^^ 15:23 tcohen specially the sour, tuxayo 15:23 tuxayo letting 1min in case someone else comes up. 15:23 fridolin very nice sour beer 15:24 oleonard I don't think any stragglers will overwhelm the yes votes ;) 15:24 khall_ #vote Yes 15:25 tuxayo #endvote 15:25 huginn Voted on "Shall Vue3 be used for the new ERM module?" Results are 15:25 huginn Yes (10): liliputech, oleonard, ashimema, khall_, kidclamp, fridolin, tcohen, nugged, thd, AndrewFH 15:25 huginn Abstain (3): tuxayo, jajm, lukeg 15:25 nugged (oh, I forgot to register myself :P ): 15:25 nugged #info Andrew Nugged, National Library of Finland, HELSINKI 15:25 tuxayo Can anyone also reach koha-devel about this? 15:27 liliputech I think my favourite was the pepporter one :) 15:27 tuxayo #action tuxayo ask confirmation from koha-devel about using Vue3 for the new ERM module. 15:28 tuxayo Next topic 15:28 tcohen gotta feed the kids... bbl 15:28 tcohen koha++ 15:28 tuxayo « Make the IRC less noisy and more newcomer friendly my moving some bots outputs to another channel (#koha-logs/#koha-technical/#koha-bots) » 15:28 tcohen tuxayo++ 15:28 tcohen fridolin++ 15:28 ashimema good plan 15:28 * ashimema should join the other channel 15:29 tuxayo - koha-jenkins: continuous integration failures or success 15:29 tuxayo - huginn (keep part of output in main channel because they have multiple roles): new commits pushed to main/master branch 15:29 tuxayo - alohabot: package builds 15:29 liliputech more humans / less bots 15:29 * liliputech should join more often 15:29 ashimema we should also update the irc page on koha-community to give instructions on how to use matrix/element as you suggested at hackfest tuxayo 15:29 tuxayo So no issues with that? 15:29 tuxayo Then are there more bot output to move that the above 3? 15:30 tuxayo Any idea how to name the new channel? Ideas are #koha-logs/#koha-technical/#koha-bots 15:30 fridolin tuxayo: koha-dev ? 15:30 fridolin like ML 15:31 oleonard Confusing 15:31 tuxayo Yes 15:31 fridolin too obvious maybe 15:31 tuxayo Actual dev talk will still be here 15:31 liliputech i find it clear. that makes not too much names to recall 15:31 liliputech koha-bots is nice. 15:31 domm there is a matrix channel? 15:32 tuxayo nugged: what was you preference again? 15:32 tuxayo *your 15:32 fridolin koha-bots sounds good 15:32 liliputech people willing to check the bots message would go there, and dev talks + actual humans would sstay here 15:32 fridolin i'm ok with that 15:32 liliputech koha-bots++ 15:32 ashimema +1 15:32 fridolin koha-AI ^^ 15:33 fridolin bots talking to bots 15:33 oleonard +1 for koha-bots 15:33 tuxayo ashimema: «give instructions on how to use matrix/element» Indeed, in addition to the web IRC chat we could add that and the future Telegram bridge that nugged mentioned. 15:33 tuxayo domm: #koha-irc:matrix.org 15:33 nugged tuxayo: first and main goal was to remove any automated messages form our discussion channel, "koha_bots", or alike 15:34 liliputech nop >< bots are no AI :) telegram or mattermost are easy to make with matterbridge 15:34 nugged *move to "koha_bots", I mean 15:34 ashimema agreed 15:34 ashimema hmm 15:34 ashimema I like some bots 15:34 tuxayo koha bots seems to have the preference. Hyphen or underscore? I don't know the IRC conventions. 15:34 ashimema I'd miss the bz links for example 15:35 ashimema i hope we're not going to lose that 15:35 nugged <liliputech> idea was to clean up our atuomatons posting here messing with our talks into separate channel 15:35 tuxayo ashimema: yes we would keep huginn and wahanui 15:35 oleonard huginn and wahanui get special ID cards that let them into the restricted area 15:35 huginn oleonard: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 15:35 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 15:35 ashimema yes 15:35 ashimema good 15:35 tuxayo But need to find a way for huginn to not output each new master commit here 15:35 nugged yes, helper bots is ok, for people communications, but all build messages, all whatever-related - to the separate channel 15:36 tuxayo +1 15:36 thd wahanui++ 15:36 fridolin wahanui: coffee please 15:36 wahanui fridolin: no idea 15:36 tuxayo lol 15:36 fridolin tea then 15:36 liliputech +1 15:37 tuxayo #startvote Which channel name? koha_bots, koha-bots, something else 15:37 huginn Begin voting on: Which channel name? Valid vote options are koha_bots, koha-bots, something, else. 15:37 huginn Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 15:37 liliputech #vote koha-bots 15:37 tuxayo #endvote 15:38 ashimema #vote koha-bots 15:38 tuxayo #startvote Which channel name? koha_bots, koha-bots, something_else 15:38 huginn Already voting on 'Which channel name' 15:38 tuxayo #endvote 15:38 huginn Voted on "Which channel name?" Results are 15:38 huginn koha-bots (2): ashimema, liliputech 15:38 nugged <tuxayo> (Hyphen or underscore? I don't know the IRC conventions) - so any hint about convestions or I missed the thread/reply? 15:38 tuxayo #startvote Which channel name? koha_bots, koha-bots, something_else 15:38 huginn Begin voting on: Which channel name? Valid vote options are koha_bots, koha-bots, something_else. 15:38 huginn Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 15:38 liliputech #vote koha-bots 15:38 oleonard #vote koha-bots 15:38 ashimema #vote koha-bots 15:38 fridolin #vote koha-bots 15:38 thd #vote koha-bots 15:38 nugged how can I now say koha_bots? :) 15:38 nugged #vote koha-bots 15:38 oleonard koha-🤖? 15:39 tuxayo nugged: «so any hint about convestions or I missed the thread/reply?» I launched the vote to have this question sorted out ^^ 15:39 liliputech oleonard: you silly >< that will be hard to join ;) 15:39 tuxayo #endvote 15:39 huginn Voted on "Which channel name?" Results are 15:39 huginn koha-bots (6): liliputech, oleonard, ashimema, fridolin, nugged, thd 15:40 tuxayo Also OFTC right? 15:40 ashimema yeah, I reckon so 15:40 tuxayo At the hackfest it was mentioned to do that in Libera.chat 15:40 tuxayo But I didn't get it 15:41 tuxayo cc nugged 15:41 liliputech that would be easier to have both chats on the same server 15:41 tuxayo #agreed Move the bots output mentioned in the agenda to #koha-bots 15:41 ashimema we actually have a #koha channel reserved in libera.chat 15:41 tuxayo good 15:41 nugged yes, some talks (not my origin) was that to use another server I don't get clear point why (fresher, beter, faster?) 15:41 ashimema in case oftc ever dissapears 15:42 liliputech nugged: harder better faster stronger ;) 15:42 nugged daft 15:42 liliputech ^^ 15:42 liliputech if u like daft, try yellow magic orchestra, japanese precursor 15:42 tuxayo Ok so OFTC unless we find a concrete reason. 15:42 nugged .. and we speaking about bots so daftpunk just in ontopic here right :) 15:42 tuxayo Any other dev discussion? 15:43 liliputech Haha ^^ 15:43 nugged ... also discussion was to have separate more-techy channel for current release manager team, i.e. all who hels and communicates with release menager to have one channel and all discussion about quick tests and so on (as well from my libraries piloting pre-release master build) 15:44 tuxayo Ah yes, because this cycle you will be 3 people to coordinate so you need a channel 15:44 tuxayo (You, Frido, Jonathan) 15:44 ashimema we have a rmains channel I think already 15:44 ashimema we used to 15:44 tuxayo Ah yes 15:44 ashimema maybe it went bye bye 15:44 tuxayo #_oftc_#rmchat:matrix.org 15:44 ashimema that's the one 15:45 nugged ... and to have +1 more channel for less-techy talks to especially attract librarians to come for help and see less noise from deep tech talks from joubu and ashimema (and others, glob(*) you are) - some chan like #koha-userhelp 15:45 liliputech it still exist :) 15:45 oleonard This channel is quiet 95% of the time these days 15:46 nugged the idea to especially make comfortable place for humans and human quesitons about usage, to be more brave asking "noob" questions, alike. And have web interface promoted for that channel as well other easy-to-join bridges 15:46 ashimema that's a nice idea 15:46 nugged > This channel is quiet 95% of the time these days 15:46 nugged oleonard: indeed, but if you come to read history and be just librarian you'll be scared. But yes, we can let this opinion ripe for a moments later, 15:47 ashimema I think that might best be done once we've made it easier for the general public to use.. I still hear complaints about irc even though I personally think it works ok 15:47 tuxayo ashimema: complains even with the webchat? 15:47 * ashimema hopes oleonard likes that he just filled his inbox 15:47 ashimema pass 15:47 ashimema the webchat feels very dated too 15:48 oleonard ashimema: ðŸ‘🻠15:48 ashimema I think people are just expecting slack, whatsapp, disourse or whatever 15:48 ashimema telegram bridging will help with that 15:48 liliputech signal?++ 15:48 nugged oleonard: sometimes name of channel "allows" people to be more brave when they noobs, + same topic of channel with some hint "don't afraid ask dumb, we won't freak" and also previous history they will see 15:48 tuxayo Ah yes 15:49 liliputech let's setup a bbs like in the goldays (good old days?) 15:49 nugged > telegram bridging will help with that 15:49 nugged let me anyway bring POC of this as I said on hackathon, so we will see, I just will ask 1 month (around) please, /me drowning :) but badly want to make that 15:49 tuxayo > the webchat feels very dated too 15:49 tuxayo The one used by libera.chat is great. 15:50 ashimema interesting 15:50 fridolin keep it simple, and free 15:50 fridolin and opensource i mean 15:50 ashimema indeed 15:51 thd People are always expecting whatever is most familiar and not whatever is most helpful or good for freedom. 15:51 nugged my proposal: 15:51 nugged - bots to be separated. 15:51 nugged - rmaint channel we have, I'll call frido and joubu and others to join or others calls me, when needed and time comes 15:51 nugged - let us our feeling about more channels like "koha-userhelp" ripe for some time 15:51 nugged - I'll bring telegram bridge like we did for Perl community (YAPC conferences) so let's see this too + we bring more other tools (matrix, etc) - so let's arise this quesiton one again in a month or around 15:53 tuxayo If people want to use Telegram we could let them have a bridge. We could still have a modern libre/open source choose promoted first on the website. Like a better IRC webchat and Element/Matrix. 15:54 tuxayo nugged: okay let's got with this :) 15:54 tuxayo > rmaint channel we have 15:54 tuxayo "rmchat" actually 15:54 nugged rmchat, thanks, sorry. ok 15:54 tuxayo So let that sink for some time and move one? 15:54 tuxayo *on 15:55 nugged +1 15:55 ashimema kiwiirc is indeed pretty and modern looking.. that would be a nice replacement for our web chat 15:55 ashimema anyhow 15:55 ashimema moving on 15:56 ashimema I like all nugged suggestions 15:56 tuxayo #topic Set time of next meeting 15:56 tuxayo Shall we aim for NZ, Tahiti and Americas for next meeting? 15:57 tuxayo (can't do Australia, current DST it can't reach South America east) 15:58 fridolin good for me 15:58 tuxayo Last time it was great to have some people from NZ and fridolin can't every time come in the middle of night. 15:59 fridolin was it 22:00 UTC ? 15:59 tuxayo It would be the 11th due to general meeting 15:59 liliputech ok for me as well 16:00 fridolin https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_6_April_2022 16:00 tuxayo 21 actually 16:00 tuxayo This time we make it 9:00 am for NZ 16:01 tuxayo Wait 16:01 tuxayo 21 UTC 16:01 tuxayo I though it was about french mainland time but it 21 UTC 16:02 tuxayo 11 May 2022, 21 UTC 16:02 fridolin 11am for me 16:02 tuxayo thanks for the double check 16:02 liliputech 22h for french is that right? 16:02 tuxayo 23 16:02 liliputech ouche. ok 16:03 tuxayo It should still be Wednesday I think. But not for NZ, no issues I think 16:03 nugged tuxayo: google shows 23 it's for EET / Finland (us) 16:04 nugged (DST/noDST because, winter time it will be 3 hours from UTC for us now we have two) 16:04 tuxayo Thanks for the check. I have a hard time getting my mind right about these time calculation 16:04 tuxayo #info Next meeting: 11 May 2022, 21 UTC 16:04 ashimema fridolin, when you come to work through the jQuery UI tree.. push bug 30466 fairly early.. some of them are not direct depends on it.. but it does make them all look better 😉 16:04 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30466 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Convert serials pages tabs to Bootstrap 16:04 ashimema i.e. this tree: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=29226 16:05 tuxayo #endmeeting 16:05 huginn Meeting ended Wed Apr 20 16:05:09 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 16:05 huginn Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/development_irc_meeting_20_april_2022.2022-04-20-14.04.html 16:05 huginn Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/development_irc_meeting_20_april_2022.2022-04-20-14.04.txt 16:05 huginn Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/development_irc_meeting_20_april_2022.2022-04-20-14.04.log.html 16:05 lukeg yes! ashimema++ 16:05 tuxayo thanks all for you attendance, that was a long one ^^ 16:05 oleonard tuxayo++ 16:05 oleonard Thanks for charing 16:05 oleonard Charring? 16:05 ashimema tuxayo++ 16:05 oleonard Chairing! 16:05 ashimema hehe 16:05 fridolin tuxayo: +++ 16:06 liliputech thanks for chatting+decision making everyone :) 16:06 liliputech +tuxayo for chairing of course 16:06 fridolin ashimema: oki dok 16:06 ashimema 🙂 16:06 liliputech bonne soirée :) 16:09 oleonard ashimema++ 16:09 oleonard thanks for all the testing 16:10 ashimema luceg and tcohen got me started 😉 16:10 ashimema lukeg even 16:14 ashimema wow.. mind blown 16:14 ashimema I didn't know before you could drag and drop the subfield tags in the tabs 16:15 nugged Cheering 🤗 16:20 tuxayo nikkom: still there? Meeting is over :) 16:23 * wizzyrea looks around... hi 16:24 oleonard Hi wizzyrea! 16:26 tuxayo wizzyrea: hi :) 16:26 tuxayo IIUC you work at ByWater now, on which continent are you though? 16:33 oleonard I don't understand serial collections 16:34 oleonard As far as I can tell there are some circumstances under which a "serial collection" tab appears on the OPAC bibliographic detail page 16:34 oleonard But I don't know what those circumstances are. 16:45 ashimema wizzyrea.. any idea how we update the history page on koha-community.org? 16:48 wizzyrea there used to be a job that pulled from git 16:48 wizzyrea wonder if that broke when the git repo moved 16:48 ashimema aha.. cool 16:50 wizzyrea fatal: unable to connect to git.koha-community.org: 16:50 wizzyrea git.koha-community.org[0: 3.23.183.225]: errno=Connection refused 16:50 wizzyrea seems so 16:51 ashimema hmm.. 16:51 ashimema it should still be public accessible.. maybe the link changed slightly though.. I can't remember 16:51 ashimema https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha 16:51 wizzyrea that's it 16:52 wizzyrea it's at least thinking about it now 16:53 wizzyrea yep it's doing a big fetch heh 16:53 ashimema 😄 16:53 ashimema thanks 16:53 ashimema that'll keep my boss happy.. 16:53 wizzyrea this bit won't fix it but 16:53 wizzyrea the next bit will :) 16:53 ashimema prospects like to look at that page to see activity.. I tell them to look at the about page on our demo.. but it's nice to have it proper public too 🙂 16:54 ashimema thanks wizzyrea 17:37 wizzyrea ashimema: it's up to 2021 now 17:40 ashimema awesome, thanks wizzyrea 17:46 ashimema @later tell fridolin follow-up on bug 29602 ready to fix one of the failing unit tests 17:46 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 18:05 tuxayo Cool that there is interest in the history page ^^ 18:21 tuxayo oleonard: did you test bug 25408 ? 18:21 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25408 normal, P5 - low, ---, arthur.suzuki, Signed Off , CanBookBeReserved & CanItemBeReserved should check "opacitemholds" policy 18:22 tuxayo You switched it to Signed Off. But only my SO line is added. And I tested the patch a long time ago before changes that invalided it. 19:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30237: DBRev 21.12.00.034 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3fdcc4cde3c34875e95ff069a8e61aae33e293d2> 19:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27631: (RM follow-up) Fix missing h1 to div <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=05ba079814facb569feb9327992a1dc441753754> 19:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27631: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=53d785c7e6bfda50761b632f9647193f46d6b7df> 19:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30237: (QA follow-up) Spelling <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=33fb5d70a5da4470522eda00c685de11150a7671> 19:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30544: Add font awesome version to licenses page <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=833c9efee0c0e01a0223318b578efa77272ed958> 19:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 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