Time Nick Message 06:05 dcook People should wake up faster heh 06:54 reiveune hello 06:54 wahanui salut, reiveune 07:14 matts_hackfest hello ! 07:21 dcook Hoped to help out on some hackfest tonight but alas.. :( 07:25 nlegrand Bonjour #koha 08:04 cait1 nlegrand: bonjour 08:04 cait1 how are the hackfesters this morning? so quiet here! 08:04 fridolin nlegrand: bonjour 08:04 fridolin cait1: yellow 08:04 fridolin we jsut start 08:05 fridolin there is still chocolate 08:05 fridolin and cheeeeeeese 08:05 magnuse awwwww.... 08:05 tuxayo cait1: hi :) Some people doing ILL stuff. French librarian and french doing something specific that I forgot about. 08:06 magnuse yay for ill! 08:06 tuxayo dcook: hi. «People should wake up faster heh» lol 08:09 cait1 tuxayo: still waiting for the attack of the librarian testers on the queues ;) 08:17 tuxayo cait1: I have one testing the unimarc framework revamp in the installer. So that only on french installs can have unimarc. I heard that Italians are upset because they are now locked out of Koha for new install or something like that! 08:39 cait1 tuxayo: that's a good one for sure! 08:39 cait1 hope testing goes well 08:40 cait1 it-IT installer is gone, fr-FR is the last one remaining in the old style that cannot be translated in pootle 09:03 nlegrand o/ fridolin cait1 09:17 tuxayo nlegrand: hi :) 09:18 tuxayo cait1: specific it-IT is gone and it seems they can only install in MARC21 for it-IT 09:21 * tuxayo added Joubu 's git repository to try the erm branch to try cypress. => 1.5 GiB of download for all Joubu's branches O_o 09:24 cait1 tuxayo: correct 09:42 cait1 hm is it possible that the batch edit from reports is broken in 20.11? :( 09:42 cait1 when I "send to batch edit" the items don't show there 09:43 cait1 ah ok, it doesn't work with [[itemnumber|itemnumber]] only when the column is really named itemnumber... 09:59 severine_q hi all :) 09:59 nlegrand o/ severine_q 10:04 severine_q salut nlegrand ! 10:14 tuxayo severine_q: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Internationalization,_plural_forms,_context,_and_more_(RFC) 10:14 tuxayo https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15395 10:14 huginn Bug 15395: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, CLOSED FIXED, Internationalization: plural forms, context, and more 10:19 oleonard Hi all 10:20 tuxayo oleonard: hi :D 11:30 cait1 hi severine_q :) 11:36 severine_q hi cait1 :D 11:36 oleonard o/ 11:36 severine_q so sad not seeing you in Marseille... 11:36 oleonard Yeah :( :( 11:37 oleonard I really miss seeing you all 11:37 severine_q yes :( 11:39 magnuse next time! 11:45 magnuse ill problem: i have a couple libraries running 21.11 report that they have: a record connected to an illrequest, an item connected to the record and a hold connected to the record. when the item is issued to the patron with the hold, the loan is created ok, but the hold is not deleted. so the patron ends up with both a loan and a hold connected to the same record/item. it only happens for ill-related loans, and it happens for all ill-related loans. anyone 11:45 magnuse else seen that? 11:46 magnuse the problem seems to pre-date the upgrade to 21.11 11:51 nlegrand I really hope to be able to be in Marseille next time :) 11:58 ashimema anyone here know how we generate the history page on koha-community.org? 11:58 ashimema https://koha-community.org/about/history/ 11:59 ashimema it's due an update 12:06 magnuse looks like https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/docs/history.txt has not been updated for a while either 12:20 tuxayo tcohen: it seems the pipeline failed due to not having right credentials to push to elasticsearch-icu docker repository https://gitlab.com/koha-community/docker/koha-elasticsearch-icu/-/jobs/2269592494#L167 12:22 Joubu history.txt is updated every 6 months, when there is a new major release 12:22 Joubu see commit "21.11.00 - Update history.txt" 12:27 magnuse Joubu: ah, cool! 12:32 cait1 nlegrand: me too :) 12:32 ashimema me also 12:32 cait1 magnuse: have you checked if there is any difference in what the hold looks like? 12:32 cait1 maybe some field is missing 12:32 cait1 that prevents it from being set to befilled 12:32 cait1 is the itemnumber set? 12:33 magnuse hm, let me check 12:51 magnuse the holds are "next available item" 13:08 cait1 magnuse: hmm 13:08 cait1 oh! sec 13:09 cait1 i think we introduce da field that says item level or not 13:09 cait1 is that already in that verson? 13:09 cait1 ah 21.11 -... checking 13:09 cait1 magnuse: check reserves:item_level_hold 13:10 cait1 in general I think it'd manually place an item level hold and compare all the fields 13:11 magnuse will check! 13:14 liliputech Joubu: got this error while trying 27344 Template process failed: file error - background_jobs/update_elastic_index.inc: not found at /kohadevbox/koha/C4/Templates.pm line 127 13:14 liliputech missing file? 13:16 magnuse cait1: they all have reserves.itemnumber=NULL and reserves.item_level_hold=0 13:16 oleonard-away Joubu: I'm starting to look at Bootstrap 5 today. 13:18 magnuse oleonard++ 13:19 magnuse cait1: at least one library has noticed this since "long before" the upgrade to 21.11 13:23 domm Is it possible (how?) to restict a librariean to only access one branch (or some branches)? 13:27 cait1 magnuse: and all the other fields are the same? 13:28 cait1 magnuse: hm maybe circuation conditions? soemthing that doesn't allow it to fill the hold 13:28 cait1 magnuse: do you use notforloan status or similar maybe? 13:29 cait1 tcohen: could you maybe have a look at bug 19318? you are QA contact, release or finish :) 13:29 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19318 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Add ability to use custom file upload paths 13:29 cait1 but Julian is in the same room with you... so 13:29 domm And (maybe related), how can we limit the OPAC search to only show hits of a branch? When I start a search from the advanced search form, branch=foo is added to the query, but no hits; when I do a plain search and later use a facet it works (but generates limit=holdingbranch:foo) 13:29 nugged https://imgur.com/h0Nscil 13:30 cait1 the advanced search shoudl work 13:30 cait1 domm: zebra or elastic? 13:30 domm elastic 13:31 cait1 nugged: love it - developer's version of ballet? :) 13:31 magnuse oooh, everyone working so hard! 13:31 cait1 they look so happy! 13:31 cait1 domm: wah is the search URL created? maybe we could spot something there 13:32 domm cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?advsearch=1&idx=kw&q=kafka&weight_search=1&limit=branch%3AICF&sort_by=relevance&do=Search 13:33 domm and this works: 13:33 domm cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?advsearch=1&idx=kw&q=kafka&weight_search=1&limit=holdingbranch%3AICF&sort_by=relevance&do=Search 13:33 domm limit=branch: vs limit:holdingbranch: 13:33 nugged magnuse: even harder than hard :). It's really GREAT we're here. (+ cait1) Sending greetings to all of you worldwide. 13:33 cait1 ok, there is a difference in the index name 13:33 cait1 yah 13:33 cait1 i think in Zebra it's the same... but I'd check that for Elastic first 13:34 cait1 i think branch is something like an alias for one of them or both 13:34 domm so you think we just have to fix the mappings? 13:34 nugged cait1: it's well synchronized community work! We feel that vibe, sending those to you too!!! :) 13:34 domm nugged: are you at the hackathon? 13:34 cait1 nugged: i miss it, Marseille always recharges batteries with that 'vibe' 13:35 cait1 nugged: theone in front of the video above is nugged 13:36 domm ah, ok thats weird: 13:36 domm there are ES mappings for holdingbranch and homebranch, but none for branch 13:36 nugged cait1: domm asks rhetorical question I assume :). 13:36 tuxayo tcohen++ thanks for reviewing the merge requests 13:36 domm so (to me) it seems that the advanced search is generating an invalid query 13:37 nugged cait1: saying that - because we have common lot of YAPC stories with domm :) 13:37 liliputech Joubu: another issue : root@kohadevbox:koha(master)$ ./misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl -file bib-27.marcstd 13:37 domm nugged: I was considering coming to Marssailes (or however you spell that..), but it was a bit too hard to reach (by train) from Vienna, plus Corona, plus work... 13:37 liliputech .No property queue for Koha::BackgroundJob::UpdateElasticIndex 13:38 cait1 domm: yea i thin it's an alias in zebra, so might not translate? 13:38 domm so what shall we do? 13:38 domm is this a bug in the advanced search form? 13:38 cait1 maybe yes 13:38 cait1 i am not sure what the best way to resolve would be - change the index or fix the index 13:38 nugged domm: ... 🤗 13:39 cait1 domm: nugged: hope to meet you both next time :) 13:39 domm I guess it might be easier to just define a new index in the ES mappings? 13:39 cait1 domm: it loks like branch is an alias for homebranch: https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/etc/zebradb/ccl.properties#L1023 13:40 cait1 i thin it would be good to report - shoudl be broken for all ES then? 13:40 cait1 fridolin: ? 13:40 domm I think it's broken for all ES, at least we did not fiddle with these parts.. 13:40 cait1 yes, so for sure worth a bug report 13:41 magnuse cait1: can't see anything relevant in the circ rules. notforloan should prevent the item from being issued, i think? 13:41 magnuse cait1: thanks for suggestions, gotta run now 13:41 cait1 magnuse: if it's a negative one there are new prefs for trapping holds 13:41 cait1 well... not only for negativ eones 13:43 domm otoh, there seems to be some mapping here: https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/Koha/SearchEngine/Elasticsearch/QueryBuilder.pm#L105 13:43 magnuse cait1: new prefs for trapping holds? 13:49 tuxayo nugged: bug 20582 13:49 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20582 enhancement, P5 - low, Future, julian.maurice, RESOLVED FIXED, Turn Koha into a Mojolicious application 13:52 domm ok, I think we have another case of lowercase boolean fucking up Elasticsearch: '(kafka) AND (homebranch:ICF or holdingbranch:ICF)' 13:54 domm which might already be fixed, but we're still on 20.11 13:55 domm yes! 13:58 domm oh, actualle 20.05, and this was fixed in Aug 2021 :-) 14:05 matts_hackfest heya, does anyone knows where C4/SIP/interactive_patron_dump.pl went ? (it is there in 20.11 but not in 21.11) 14:06 matts_hackfest cait1 or khall maybe ? 14:06 khall hmm, that rings a bell 14:07 khall matts_hackfest bug 26701 14:07 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26701 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, CLOSED FIXED, Remove scripts from C4/SIP directory 14:08 matts_hackfest Thanks khall. Have I known about this BZ, I would have opposed to it. I use these scripts during SIP developpement/testing. 14:09 matts_hackfest (even though I agree they didn't belong in C4/SIP) 14:09 khall matts_hackfest I see no reason you can't file a bug to revert that 14:09 khall they python script really stands out as odd 14:10 matts_hackfest khall, yes, indeed, python in the koha codebase seems odd. 14:11 matts_hackfest However, I will probably submit a patch to restore at least interactive_patron_dump.pl (but in misc or somewhere) 14:14 khall sounds like a good plan! 14:17 matts_hackfest khall, by the way, Bug 30118 has just been signed-off, do you think you could have a look at it to QA or second sign-off ? :) 14:17 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30118 normal, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Signed Off , holds_block_checkin behavior is different in Koha and in SIP 14:17 khall sure can! 14:17 matts_hackfest thanks :) 14:17 matts_hackfest (more SIP patches sign-offs to come) 14:26 tcohen hi all 14:57 ashimema Sip, sip, sip :-) 15:21 matts_hackfest ashimema, you mean it's beer'o'clock ? :) 15:36 * matts_hackfest is wondering if the next version of the SIP protocol should be called CHUG ? 15:37 oleonard-away Since "gulp" is already taken 15:37 matts_hackfest :) 16:03 SoniaB Hi :) 16:05 SoniaB khall: if you want to have a look to another SIP BZ, I have just signed off BZ25815 16:49 cait1 domm: fixed bugs are the best bugs 21:24 magnuse SoniaB++ matts_hackfest++ 22:06 dcook Changing of the guard time.. heh